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02-13-2006, 12:22 PM | #852 | |
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I also think that RA is getting off scott-free here, especially if an "other" was involved in the King vote (which I'm not convinced is the case). But, if that is your line of thought, I think RA should be getting just as much scrutiny as I.
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02-13-2006, 12:23 PM | #853 | |
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After his last post, penny needs to be taken off of the suspect list. I would like to see Raiders lynched today, folks. If you think a wolf voted for king, then Raiders is the only choice. |
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02-13-2006, 12:28 PM | #856 | |
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I think it's too early to say with certainty that Blade is above suspician. I think I believe his story right now, but I wouldn't set it in stone yet. |
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02-13-2006, 12:29 PM | #858 |
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Penny, I'll pull back the vote for now.
UNVOTE PENNYWISEB Let's see where some other people let the votes fall. Spleen, KWhit - I think we are all on the same page for what we have been looking at with our evidence. I would urge both of you to strongly consider that a wolf might have picked up that thread as well by now, so when you are evaluating this make sure to give heavier credence to clues early in the game rather than later in the game. And I say this knowing that you can use the same logic against me if you choose to do this. Penny, as I remove my vote from you I'm more tense about Alan T. Who is entering your circle of trust because he stuck up for you. In terms of trust in this game, right at the moment I trust Raiders more than I trust Blade. Both are on the positive side of the trust list. They are both players I've had a number of werewolf games with and I trust my reads on them more than guys I'm less familiar with (just about everyone else). I'm having a hard time squaring away the idea of four others without one of the votes being on King, which is why I'm in a quandry here. So maybe there are only three others to start? |
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02-13-2006, 12:29 PM | #860 | |
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I know, but I have absolutely no reason to trust RA and Blade has given me a reason. Plus, RA voted for me. |
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02-13-2006, 12:30 PM | #861 | |
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I haven't seen swaggs or sndvls allying themselves with anyone at this point. |
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02-13-2006, 12:31 PM | #862 | |
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No, I unfortunatly don't have anything better than 50/50 to give you, I appreciate the reasoning though, it gives me stuff to think about. I still don't like the idea of this becoming a run away though as closer votes seem to get more people on the hot seat. (alot tougher looking through 11 different people voting for the same person with the same reason). |
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02-13-2006, 12:31 PM | #863 | |
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02-13-2006, 12:32 PM | #864 | |
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Well, I do admit it'd be a good play for Alan T to try to save me if he were an "other" knowing that I'm a survivor (thus forming a loose alliance). But at this point, he's one of the only people sticking up for me so I'm gonna have to give him the benefit of the doubt here.
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That read to me like he was allying himself with you guys...i havent seen another group form in the meantime
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02-13-2006, 12:33 PM | #866 | |
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If someone else proves they deserve my vote or RA proves he doesn't deserve it, my vote stays there. |
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02-13-2006, 12:34 PM | #867 | |
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02-13-2006, 12:34 PM | #868 | |
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I agree 100%. It is very possible that an other will try to latch himself onto us. I also want to re-read the early part of the thread to make sure that I trust you 2 guys (hoops and spleen) like I think I do. I don't want to take anything for granted at this point. |
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02-13-2006, 12:35 PM | #869 | |
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I meant to say, Until someone else proves they deserve my vote or RA proves he doesn't deserve it, my vote stays there. Sheesh. I have 14 thoughts running through my fingers at once. |
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02-13-2006, 12:35 PM | #870 | |
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..... I hope that anyone else voting for me would actually have a reason rather than just a "gut feeling". This time your gut is telling your wrong Blade.
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I'm missing how penny is off the list based on those posts? Could someone please summarize the for-against?
The one thing missing from Blade's reveal, is that at some point someone, the assassin or the seer, needs to corroborate his story. Additionally, I think there's a possibility that he was the assassin (good or evil) that failed. I think there's certainly at least some truth in the story, but we need to do more research rather than just taking everything at face value. Looking at the player list, I see a small group of people who pretty much haven't said jack so far. I know Tanglewood is over in England, but still, I think he's posted twice in 18 pages. Schmidty, twice? And some others. I don't think it's always an indicator of guilt, but my preference is to vote off less active people in absense of strong evidence of someone's guilt. |
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You should do this. I've already made sure a few times just to be safe. Keeping penny at arms length. |
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02-13-2006, 12:36 PM | #873 | |
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02-13-2006, 12:36 PM | #874 | |
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Yes, I saw that post of his, but he didn't say who he was talking about and it really could be anybody - not a group per se, but a couple of individuals that he's beginning to trust - maybe you and someone else for instance. |
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02-13-2006, 12:37 PM | #875 | |
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I'm not sure I want to be linked closely to you yet, I dont know you aren't a wolf. my point wasnt as much that you were a good guy as I dont like how a train was forming without people giving much reasons for voting for you without reason other than /echo Blade. I am hoping on Day2, people give more reasoning into why they vote for who they did. As you may have seen on people's votes without any reason I have been responding trying to ask for more clarification why they are voting that way. |
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I'm very comfortable right now being linked with KWhit and Spleen. I don't necessarily want their voting records to mirror mine, but if one of them is revealed to be an other then I have badly butchered my interpretation of this game.
Raiders would be next in line in terms of trust, but I'm not looking to be coupled with him in terms of "factions" just yet. I'm curious what Blade may know about him, but I'm not remotely asking him to tell. |
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02-13-2006, 12:39 PM | #878 | |
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I have the same reason to trust penny that I do KWhit and hoops. The only problem is that is has come late enough in the game where there needs to be some caution taken just to be sure. |
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02-13-2006, 12:40 PM | #879 | |
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I interpreted this the same way Blade has. |
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02-13-2006, 12:40 PM | #881 | |
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02-13-2006, 12:43 PM | #882 | |
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I don't think so, but you're right about the need for some caution. There are people that are on my side who are slowly showing me that. Once I feel there is enough, I'll give up the goods. Let me ask you this, Blade. What happens when this group gets 6 people big? Are you going to refuse to trust it then? I can honestly see that happening as long as those on the bad side don't pick up on it. |
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02-13-2006, 12:44 PM | #883 | |
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Hmmm... Maybe so. Interesting. Actually, him not coming right out and saying it's us let's me trust him a little bit. It makes it less likely that he was doing it to latch onto a group of trust. Note that I said "less likely" not impossible. I don't trust him that much yet. |
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02-13-2006, 12:46 PM | #884 | |
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Spleen, I would be just fine with you releasing the "code" at this point and letting other people evaluate it for what it is right now. Having a circle of trust involving 2-4 people (let everyone debate for themselves who should be in and out) is a huge benefit this early in the game. If we get greedy and hope that it can continue to swell with only the correct people figuring it out then it will be compromised. No doubt about it. Perhaps it already has ...
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To be honest, when the day started, and it looked as though I was definately being targeted, I was just thinking about self preservation, but now that it seems it may not be a run-away vote for me, I'm going to have to reread some posts and decide who to vote for.
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02-13-2006, 12:49 PM | #887 | |
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Having 6 people who fully trust each other is a huge benefit to us, but make absolutely sure you can trust them. I feel in this game I dont trust anyone 100% until they are dead. Often you can trust someone 80-90%, but there are always things that can come up and make someone you trust end up fooling you. If you can honestly feel you trust them nearly 100% its a huge benefit though, as its that many less people to look at |
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KWhit, are you down with me giving the details? |
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02-13-2006, 12:55 PM | #890 | |
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02-13-2006, 12:59 PM | #891 | |
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It doesn't help that you are casting unfounded suspicion at me, and actually had 4-5 people jumping on the bandwagon (or at least stating that I was on the block) didn't help the situation. Everytime I try to give evidence all you give is your "gut feeling"--how can I argue with that? Like I've stated in previous posts, I'm almost completely lost at this point as far as who is bad and who is good. So many people are flipflopping and the such that its making the game really hard to analyze. Plus, it doesn't help that people like RA, Tanglewood, Schmidty are all not really participating today. We can't get a read on any of them if they don't post.
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I don't know. I'm leaning toward not revealing that at this point. I'm also more comfortable with trusting you than I am with Hoops. If anyone were to reveal it, I'd want it to be him so I could get a little closer to 100% with him. I'm not saying I distrust him, but he came to the party just a hair later than you did, so I trust him slightly less than you. Also, I think it's a better idea to keep quiet on the details now, but that's just me. |
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Once KWhit confirms he is okay with telling the secret, I think you will start to trust penny. |
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I don't think there was enough for hoops to figure it out. I think he is on our side. I think there are a couple of other folks who have keyed in on it as well that haven't told us they have. At this point, I don't think we're going to trust anyone who claims they know anyway. So, why not give it up? We may not know who else is on our side, but they'll know we're on theirs. |
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holy crap, i cant think of a game where we were all running around in like chickens with our dicks cut off like this. i am out for work soon, and might be back in before i go, otherwise, i am out until 9pm eastern....hoops, i have reason to trust spleen, and by association you and kwhit. i have never been a big fan of following along with the leader in these games but if you guys got anything to give us a target, i will be back in time to change my vote, and i trust you more than i trust blade right now (read: i dont like the push on penny at all)
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I don't think he needs to tell the secret.
I feel like he already has. |
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