The Most Wonderful Time of the Year - Playoff Hockey - Page 18

Karim · 05-25-2003, 04:50 PM

I guess I'm alone in this but that's ok. As a Flames' fan, the Oilers are the biggest rival but I actually don't mind the Oilers. I completely dislike the Leafs but would still be cheering for Toronto if they were the last of the six... different strokes for different folks.

ISiddiqui · 05-25-2003, 07:07 PM

Quote:

I recall bbor saying that he would rather piss glass than see the Sens win the Cup before the Leafs. Now, if someone says something like that, wouldn't you think they would be cheering for whoever is playing the Sens?

Maybe he really wanted to piss glass?

bbor · 05-25-2003, 09:50 PM

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Originally posted by ISiddiqui
Maybe he really wanted to piss glass?

It's a great party trick

Easy Mac · 05-26-2003, 01:32 AM

Does anyone else feel like this thread has been stickied for the last decade?

sterlingice · 05-26-2003, 02:03 AM

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Originally posted by Easy Mac
Does anyone else feel like this thread has been stickied for the last decade?

Nah, that's just how long the NHL Playoffs are each year. But who cares- it's all good.

SI

Cards4ever · 05-26-2003, 08:33 AM

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Originally posted by Easy Mac
Does anyone else feel like this thread has been stickied for the last decade?

Would you prefer 1 stickied thread or a bunch of random threads throughout the board? After the Cup finals it will be un-stickied.

Honolulu_Blue · 05-26-2003, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by Easy Mac
Does anyone else feel like this thread has been stickied for the last decade?

The longer the better. We have over 850 posts on the thread (legitimizing it's "stickied" status) and it keeps HB's name up at the top of the board. In lights. Just like it was always meant to be. Top of the world, ma!

Honolulu_Blue · 05-26-2003, 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by Easy Mac
Does anyone else feel like this thread has been stickied for the last decade?

Dola, stop worrying about this sort of nonsense and finish your damned paper!

bbor · 05-26-2003, 10:31 PM

Go Leafs!

Chief Rum · 05-27-2003, 05:41 AM

All right, the day has finally arrived...The Stanley Cup Finals are finally here!

It's time to throw out the predictions, and/or who you want to see win it.

I want the Ducks to win, but I am picking the Devils. WHy? Because no hometown fan iss tupid enough to pick his own team in these things before the series starts.

Do I think the Ducks can beat the Devils? Most definitely. But it really is a toss up, in my mind. I hope we get a good Cup finals.

Go Ducks!

Chief Rum

Honolulu_Blue · 05-27-2003, 07:16 AM

This one is very hard to call. Very hard. I didn't think the Ducks had much of a shot against either Detroit or Dallas. They whooped 'em both. So it's foolish to think the Ducks can't beat the Devils. The Devils are a beatable team.

Who do I want to win? The Ducks. Mainly twofold. 1) My friend's married to Keith Carney's cousin. They are close. Tenous connection as it gets. But, there you have it. 2) If the Devils win they will have won 3 Cups in the last 8 years. That comes close to Detroit's 3 Cups in the last 6 years. We don't want that. Petty, I know.

Though at the end of the day it's hard to pick against the team with experience (Devils) and the leadership (Devils, Scott Stevens), I will pick the Ducks, and their hot goalie, in 6 games.

Cards4ever · 05-27-2003, 08:42 AM

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twinci...ts/5949042.htm

It's a shame what happened to this kid, I saw him play several times for Roseville HS and to get his future ripped from him for a illegal and extremely stupid hit sucks.

Cards4ever · 05-27-2003, 08:52 AM

Dola-

Roy to retire?!

I think it's time, but, he was one of the greats no doubt.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/news/2003/0527/1559398.html

Honolulu_Blue · 05-27-2003, 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by Cards4ever
Dola-

Roy to retire?!

I think it's time, but, he was one of the greats no doubt.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/news/2003/0527/1559398.html

He certainly was.

But he was also evil. It's always good to get Evil out of the sport. Always good. Good riddance, jerk ass! What are the Forces of Darkness going to do now with our their lead minion of Evil? Suck, I hope.

Cards4ever · 05-27-2003, 09:37 AM

Nah, they'll just do what Detroit does, go out and buy more talent.

Honolulu_Blue · 05-27-2003, 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by Cards4ever
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twinci...ts/5949042.htm

It's a shame what happened to this kid, I saw him play several times for Roseville HS and to get his future ripped from him for a illegal and extremely stupid hit sucks.

This is a tragic story. Really horrible. The hit makes absolutely no sense. None. Awful.

Honolulu_Blue · 05-27-2003, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by Cards4ever
Nah, they'll just do what Detroit does, go out and buy more talent.

Such as? Felix Potvin? (he's Evil too, a Wings killer). Hmmm... Maybe they'll deal for Chechmanek? The free agent goalie crop is pretty bare this year and Lacroix has already sold of many of his young assets for other parts. Maybe they'll try to deal for Burke? Heh! I could get used to this. Pondering what the FoD will do next for a goalie...

Given our luck, the Wings will shell some goalie, he'll get pissed, demand a trade, and the team will make some ridiculous deal shipping him to Denver.

Cards4ever · 05-27-2003, 10:00 AM

Well, Chechmanek is out there, and Phoenix should deal Burke, but maybe the should give Abescheier(sp) a shot too. I'm sure Av's fans are happy that Cujo was a FA last year, so they wouldn't get stuck with him!

Ksyrup · 05-27-2003, 11:52 AM

I've never liked Roy, so I guess it's fitting that even his retirement should get me angry. We've all known he was going to retire - but he decides to announce it as the Stanley Cup finals get underway.

It's all about you, isn't it Patrick? Jerk.

bbor · 05-27-2003, 12:27 PM

Sad to see Patrick go...he was/is a stellar goalie..and to step away from 9 mil takes balls.

Perhaps the Avs will try to get Hasek out of the Czech republic....oooop's...forgot..he is a criminal now

He can't leave the country.

I do think it is time to give Abiescher a chance.

As for the final...if the Ducks win it is because of Giggy...if they lose it is because of Giggy.

Getting back to his form from 10 DAYS ago will be tough.I am reminded a bit of the Panthers from a few years ago....they surprisingly get to the cup final only to get hammered 4 straight.

Karim · 05-27-2003, 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by Cards4ever
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twinci...ts/5949042.htm

It's a shame what happened to this kid, I saw him play several times for Roseville HS and to get his future ripped from him for a illegal and extremely stupid hit sucks.

Sucks isn't a strong enough word, Cards. The guy who did this should be charged and get a lifetime ban.

Boxing lessons? Eight fights a game? Sorry, but that's not hockey.

Karim · 05-27-2003, 03:37 PM

Roy's arrogance is tough to take but I guess the best goalie to ever play deserves some slack. I'll never forget in 1993 when he was stoning Tomas Sandstrom left and right and after yet another save off the Swede, he gave Sandstrom a wink. Classic.

I don't think Colorado will want to trust their payroll to David Aeibischer (sp?). Burke is the likely target but it will take a lot to get him because Phoenix is moving into a new arena. Plus, Burke is injury prone so you never know.

It will be interesting to see what the top payroll clubs do this off-season with 2004 lurking...

ISiddiqui · 05-27-2003, 09:48 PM

You all should be thankful.

You were just treated to ANOTHER free hockey clinic by the New Jersey Devils

.

Go Devils! 1-0 in the series!

bbor · 05-27-2003, 11:50 PM

I'd rather have Abeshier in net than Burke....

but i guess if they think they can make a run next season then Burke is the best they will be able to do.

Jersey looked scary good tonight...Ducks looked rusty??...or did they just come back to earth?

Cards4ever · 05-28-2003, 08:01 AM

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Originally posted by bbor
I'd rather have Abeshier in net than Burke....

but i guess if they think they can make a run next season then Burke is the best they will be able to do.

Jersey looked scary good tonight...Ducks looked rusty??...or did they just come back to earth?

I think they were rusty, if they can get out of NJ with a split, they won't be in too bad of shape.

MizzouRah · 05-28-2003, 08:05 AM

I think Brodeur is often overlooked. He looked good tonight, but so did the Devil's defense.

Todd

sachmo71 · 05-28-2003, 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by Cards4ever
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twinci...ts/5949042.htm

It's a shame what happened to this kid, I saw him play several times for Roseville HS and to get his future ripped from him for a illegal and extremely stupid hit sucks.

What a horrible story. They really need to sit back and take a long look at what makes hockey a great sport. That sort of thing isn't it.

Way to go Devils. I sort of feel bad for Giggy...as someone said earlier, if the Ducks win, it's because of him. If they lose, it's because of him. But he has made a believer out of a lot of people, no matter how this thing turns out.

So long, Roy. You are a jerk, and a slimy human being, but a great goalie. Maybe the best.

bbor · 05-29-2003, 01:03 AM

Wow....WTF is with Booby Clarke?

Does he have an ace up his sleeve?....a Khabibulin Ace...or a Burke ace?

Otherwise he's fucked.

Has anyone ever traded a possible Vezina trophy winner for a 2nd rounder before?

Cards4ever · 05-29-2003, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bbor
Wow....WTF is with Booby Clarke?

Does he have an ace up his sleeve?....a Khabibulin Ace...or a Burke ace?

Otherwise he's fucked.

Has anyone ever traded a possible Vezina trophy winner for a 2nd rounder before?

I heard that Philly wants to move up in the draft.

sachmo71 · 05-29-2003, 09:14 AM

This would be the year to do it.

Maple Leafs · 05-29-2003, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bbor
Has anyone ever traded a possible Vezina trophy winner for a 2nd rounder before?

In hindsight, he did better than the Habs did with Roy.

Cards4ever · 05-29-2003, 01:36 PM

Here's a article from someone who wants to widen the nets.

http://foxsports.lycos.com/content/view?contentId=1422810

Karim · 05-29-2003, 02:53 PM

Most goals in a season:

Smith 93*
Gretsky 92

* Accomplished with wider nets and two more games played.

Cards4ever · 05-29-2003, 03:38 PM

Does that mean you are in favor of wider nets Karim?

Karim · 05-29-2003, 03:47 PM

Sorry, I should have explained myself better.

I'm all for innovations to try and open up the game such as stricter enforcement of the rules, creating more opportunities for 4-on-4 play (not the whole game), removing the red line, adjusting goalie equipment, but I feel widening the nets goes too far and hurts the integrity of the game.

With wider nets, many team and player records become obsolete. There are so many things that could be tweaked before we radically alter the game.

Cards4ever · 05-29-2003, 03:58 PM

Gotcha, I prefer not widening the nets myself at this time.

Maple Leafs · 05-29-2003, 04:30 PM

My kneejerk reaction to the net idea is "no way". But given that goalies now are far bigger than they used to be (thanks to the equipment, baggy jerseys, etc.) and given that the odds of them forcing them to wear smaller stuff seems about zero... maybe it's worth a shot. I'm not saying soccer nets, but maybe an inch or two.

Would it help the quality of the game? Probably not much, considering you'd still have the trap, clutching and grabbing, and games where the shots or 19-12. Those games would just wind up being 3-1 instead of 1-0.

ISiddiqui · 05-29-2003, 09:39 PM

GO DEVILS!

Another 3-0 win!

That's 2-0 in the series!

bbor · 05-29-2003, 10:09 PM

Nah-na-na-na....nah-na-na-na...heh-heh-heh-goodbye.

Sorry CR....but this series is over.The magic has left the Ducks...and Jiggy is human again.

Sad to see..i really hoped they would win

I've gotta say...the Devs are playing fantastic hockey right now.They are making the Ducks look like an AHL team.

sachmo71 · 05-30-2003, 09:20 AM

You can't beat the Devils with the trap...they perfected the damn thing.

Karim · 05-31-2003, 02:58 PM

Here are some proposed rule changes I heard discussed on a national radio program yesterday. The premise was that the game is fundamentally flawed and so several radical changes should be implemented together, primarily to increase the flow of the game, generate more scoring chances and to prevent coaches from being able to think solely about defence.

1. Reduce the size of goalie equipment. If a goalie wears a size 38 jersey, he is no longer allowed to wear a size 53. Also, reduce the size of the pads from 12" to 10".

2. Make all players use wooden sticks only. Goalies are afraid that a reduction in the size of their equipment will increase the frequency of injuries because of the use of composite sticks which enable players to get shots of quicker and with more velocity. Wooden sticks reduces the velocity but also encourages better stickhandling and passing.

3. Although wood, players could now have unlimited curves on the sticks.

4. Remove the redline and eliminate the two-line pass offside.

5. Increase the size of the net by a couple of inches.

6. Play 4-on-4 throughout the game.

7. No more OT during the regular season, just go straight to a shootout. No points for a tie, just wins and losses. The idea would be to force coaches that don't want a shootout to open it up and try and win it in regulation. Plus, shootouts are just damn exciting. Playoff OT would be 4-on-4.

8. Somehow mandate, if at all humanly possible, that the referees actually call penalties.

9. No more changes allowed after a whistle. This is where most of the line matching occurs so a defensive-minded coach can get his best checkers on to cover the star players. If changes were only allowed on the fly, there would be more risk of odd-man rushes for the coach who tries to line match.

10. Award points in the standings for goals. Either an extra point for getting over a certain threshold (3 goals), or a 1/2 point per goal scored. Make goals scored the number one tie-breaker in the standings.

Thoughts?

P.S. - For any Canadians who care, the remainder of the Finals is now in High-Definition on ABC. (Game 1 and 2 were also in HD but only on ESPN2 which we do not receive north of the border without a pirated signal.)

bbor · 05-31-2003, 03:29 PM

Quick Shady players question i just heard on the radio..

The goalie tandem that Patrick Roy put out of business when he became a regular with the Canadians

.S and S.P

ice4277 · 05-31-2003, 05:51 PM

Karim,

Thoughts on those ideas:

1.) This is only common sense and the league really does need to do this.

2.) I'm not too familiar with this, so I can't really comment on it.

3.) Not necessarily in favor of this. I don't think players right now are having a problem shooting, but that the goalies have too big of an advantage.

4.) I don't think they should get rid of the red line, I think it would lead to too many icings if the rule were gone. I do think getting rid of the two-line pass is a good idea.

5.) Not in favor of this; again, take the equipment advantage away from the goalies and things will start evening out.

6.) No no no no no. They will alienate just as many fans as they would hope to keep or grow. Not that they seem to give a shit about the traditional/hardcore hockey fan at the moment anyways.

7.) I guess I wouldn't be too opposed to a shootout in the regular season as long as it is kept as 5 on 5 for the playoffs. Might make things more exciting, and they would probably even themselves out over the course of a season anyways.

8.) Common sense, but I can't see how they can do it any better than they already do; maybe threaten the refs with suspension/termination but that would seem to hurt the league more than the refs in the long run.

9.) I think the sped-up faceoffs have really helped to take care of this problem for this season.

10.) Dumb. Something like that should be reserved for crappy second-rate leagues trying to differentiate themselves from the top.

bbor · 06-01-2003, 01:02 AM

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Originally posted by bbor
Quick Shady players question i just heard on the radio..

The goalie tandem that Patrick Roy put out of business when he became a regular with the Canadians: D.S and S.P

bbor · 06-01-2003, 01:03 AM

Bah...double post

klayman · 06-01-2003, 01:48 AM

Steve Penny and Doug Soetart

Edit: knew there was a reason I couldn't sleep

bbor · 06-01-2003, 02:02 AM

Nice jon Klayman..thought it would be harder than that...Soetart would be the hard one.

WHat was the name of the lefthanded Oilers goalie from the 80's..his name was Markus something...any ideas?

Mantle2600 · 06-01-2003, 02:04 AM

Markus Asshat.

klayman · 06-01-2003, 02:40 AM

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Originally posted by bbor
Nice jon Klayman..thought it would be harder than that...Soetart would be the hard one.

WHat was the name of the lefthanded Oilers goalie from the 80's..his name was Markus something...any ideas?

The only goalies I remember from the 80's are Grant Fuhr and Andy Moog.

I'll take a shot at maybe Mike Zanier...he played a couple of games in 84 I believe.

bbor · 06-01-2003, 03:23 AM

Nope...pretty sure this guys first name was Markus....i remember his hockey card

Perhaps i am confusing what team he played for...but i don't think so.

05-26-2003, 10:31 PM	#859
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Go Leafs! __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

05-27-2003, 05:41 AM	#860
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	All right, the day has finally arrived...The Stanley Cup Finals are finally here! It's time to throw out the predictions, and/or who you want to see win it. I want the Ducks to win, but I am picking the Devils. WHy? Because no hometown fan iss tupid enough to pick his own team in these things before the series starts. Do I think the Ducks can beat the Devils? Most definitely. But it really is a toss up, in my mind. I hope we get a good Cup finals. Go Ducks! Chief Rum __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

05-27-2003, 07:16 AM	#861
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	This one is very hard to call. Very hard. I didn't think the Ducks had much of a shot against either Detroit or Dallas. They whooped 'em both. So it's foolish to think the Ducks can't beat the Devils. The Devils are a beatable team. Who do I want to win? The Ducks. Mainly twofold. 1) My friend's married to Keith Carney's cousin. They are close. Tenous connection as it gets. But, there you have it. 2) If the Devils win they will have won 3 Cups in the last 8 years. That comes close to Detroit's 3 Cups in the last 6 years. We don't want that. Petty, I know. Though at the end of the day it's hard to pick against the team with experience (Devils) and the leadership (Devils, Scott Stevens), I will pick the Ducks, and their hot goalie, in 6 games. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

05-27-2003, 08:42 AM	#862
Cards4ever College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Eagan, MN	What is ugly about hockey http://www.twincities.com/mld/twinci...ts/5949042.htm It's a shame what happened to this kid, I saw him play several times for Roseville HS and to get his future ripped from him for a illegal and extremely stupid hit sucks. __________________ Cardinal Baseball & Gopher Hockey, what else do you need?

05-27-2003, 08:52 AM	#863
Cards4ever College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Eagan, MN	Dola- Roy to retire?! I think it's time, but, he was one of the greats no doubt. http://espn.go.com/nhl/news/2003/0527/1559398.html __________________ Cardinal Baseball & Gopher Hockey, what else do you need?

05-25-2003, 04:50 PM	#851
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	I guess I'm alone in this but that's ok. As a Flames' fan, the Oilers are the biggest rival but I actually don't mind the Oilers. I completely dislike the Leafs but would still be cheering for Toronto if they were the last of the six... different strokes for different folks.

05-26-2003, 01:32 AM	#854
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Does anyone else feel like this thread has been stickied for the last decade?

05-27-2003, 09:37 AM	#865
Cards4ever College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Eagan, MN	Nah, they'll just do what Detroit does, go out and buy more talent. __________________ Cardinal Baseball & Gopher Hockey, what else do you need?

05-27-2003, 10:00 AM	#868
Cards4ever College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Eagan, MN	Well, Chechmanek is out there, and Phoenix should deal Burke, but maybe the should give Abescheier(sp) a shot too. I'm sure Av's fans are happy that Cujo was a FA last year, so they wouldn't get stuck with him! __________________ Cardinal Baseball & Gopher Hockey, what else do you need?

05-27-2003, 11:52 AM	#869
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I've never liked Roy, so I guess it's fitting that even his retirement should get me angry. We've all known he was going to retire - but he decides to announce it as the Stanley Cup finals get underway. It's all about you, isn't it Patrick? Jerk. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

05-27-2003, 12:27 PM	#870
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Sad to see Patrick go...he was/is a stellar goalie..and to step away from 9 mil takes balls. Perhaps the Avs will try to get Hasek out of the Czech republic....oooop's...forgot..he is a criminal now He can't leave the country. I do think it is time to give Abiescher a chance. As for the final...if the Ducks win it is because of Giggy...if they lose it is because of Giggy. Getting back to his form from 10 DAYS ago will be tough.I am reminded a bit of the Panthers from a few years ago....they surprisingly get to the cup final only to get hammered 4 straight. __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

05-27-2003, 03:37 PM	#872
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	Roy's arrogance is tough to take but I guess the best goalie to ever play deserves some slack. I'll never forget in 1993 when he was stoning Tomas Sandstrom left and right and after yet another save off the Swede, he gave Sandstrom a wink. Classic. I don't think Colorado will want to trust their payroll to David Aeibischer (sp?). Burke is the likely target but it will take a lot to get him because Phoenix is moving into a new arena. Plus, Burke is injury prone so you never know. It will be interesting to see what the top payroll clubs do this off-season with 2004 lurking...

05-27-2003, 09:48 PM	#873
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	You all should be thankful. You were just treated to ANOTHER free hockey clinic by the New Jersey Devils . Go Devils! 1-0 in the series! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

05-27-2003, 11:50 PM	#874
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	I'd rather have Abeshier in net than Burke.... but i guess if they think they can make a run next season then Burke is the best they will be able to do. Jersey looked scary good tonight...Ducks looked rusty??...or did they just come back to earth? __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

05-28-2003, 08:05 AM	#876
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	I think Brodeur is often overlooked. He looked good tonight, but so did the Devil's defense. Todd

05-29-2003, 01:03 AM	#878
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Wow....WTF is with Booby Clarke? Does he have an ace up his sleeve?....a Khabibulin Ace...or a Burke ace? Otherwise he's fucked. Has anyone ever traded a possible Vezina trophy winner for a 2nd rounder before? __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

05-29-2003, 09:14 AM	#880
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	This would be the year to do it.

05-29-2003, 01:36 PM	#882
Cards4ever College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Eagan, MN	Here's a article from someone who wants to widen the nets. http://foxsports.lycos.com/content/view?contentId=1422810 __________________ Cardinal Baseball & Gopher Hockey, what else do you need?

05-29-2003, 02:53 PM	#883
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	Most goals in a season: Smith 93* Gretsky 92 * Accomplished with wider nets and two more games played.

05-29-2003, 03:38 PM	#884
Cards4ever College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Eagan, MN	Does that mean you are in favor of wider nets Karim? __________________ Cardinal Baseball & Gopher Hockey, what else do you need?

05-29-2003, 03:47 PM	#885
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	Sorry, I should have explained myself better. I'm all for innovations to try and open up the game such as stricter enforcement of the rules, creating more opportunities for 4-on-4 play (not the whole game), removing the red line, adjusting goalie equipment, but I feel widening the nets goes too far and hurts the integrity of the game. With wider nets, many team and player records become obsolete. There are so many things that could be tweaked before we radically alter the game. Last edited by Karim : 05-29-2003 at 03:49 PM.

05-29-2003, 03:58 PM	#886
Cards4ever College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Eagan, MN	Gotcha, I prefer not widening the nets myself at this time. __________________ Cardinal Baseball & Gopher Hockey, what else do you need?

05-29-2003, 04:30 PM	#887
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	My kneejerk reaction to the net idea is "no way". But given that goalies now are far bigger than they used to be (thanks to the equipment, baggy jerseys, etc.) and given that the odds of them forcing them to wear smaller stuff seems about zero... maybe it's worth a shot. I'm not saying soccer nets, but maybe an inch or two. Would it help the quality of the game? Probably not much, considering you'd still have the trap, clutching and grabbing, and games where the shots or 19-12. Those games would just wind up being 3-1 instead of 1-0.

05-29-2003, 09:39 PM	#888
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	GO DEVILS! Another 3-0 win! That's 2-0 in the series! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

05-29-2003, 10:09 PM	#889
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Nah-na-na-na....nah-na-na-na...heh-heh-heh-goodbye. Sorry CR....but this series is over.The magic has left the Ducks...and Jiggy is human again. Sad to see..i really hoped they would win I've gotta say...the Devs are playing fantastic hockey right now.They are making the Ducks look like an AHL team. __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

05-30-2003, 09:20 AM	#890
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	You can't beat the Devils with the trap...they perfected the damn thing.

05-31-2003, 02:58 PM	#891
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	Here are some proposed rule changes I heard discussed on a national radio program yesterday. The premise was that the game is fundamentally flawed and so several radical changes should be implemented together, primarily to increase the flow of the game, generate more scoring chances and to prevent coaches from being able to think solely about defence. 1. Reduce the size of goalie equipment. If a goalie wears a size 38 jersey, he is no longer allowed to wear a size 53. Also, reduce the size of the pads from 12" to 10". 2. Make all players use wooden sticks only. Goalies are afraid that a reduction in the size of their equipment will increase the frequency of injuries because of the use of composite sticks which enable players to get shots of quicker and with more velocity. Wooden sticks reduces the velocity but also encourages better stickhandling and passing. 3. Although wood, players could now have unlimited curves on the sticks. 4. Remove the redline and eliminate the two-line pass offside. 5. Increase the size of the net by a couple of inches. 6. Play 4-on-4 throughout the game. 7. No more OT during the regular season, just go straight to a shootout. No points for a tie, just wins and losses. The idea would be to force coaches that don't want a shootout to open it up and try and win it in regulation. Plus, shootouts are just damn exciting. Playoff OT would be 4-on-4. 8. Somehow mandate, if at all humanly possible, that the referees actually call penalties. 9. No more changes allowed after a whistle. This is where most of the line matching occurs so a defensive-minded coach can get his best checkers on to cover the star players. If changes were only allowed on the fly, there would be more risk of odd-man rushes for the coach who tries to line match. 10. Award points in the standings for goals. Either an extra point for getting over a certain threshold (3 goals), or a 1/2 point per goal scored. Make goals scored the number one tie-breaker in the standings. Thoughts? P.S. - For any Canadians who care, the remainder of the Finals is now in High-Definition on ABC. (Game 1 and 2 were also in HD but only on ESPN2 which we do not receive north of the border without a pirated signal.)

05-31-2003, 03:29 PM	#892
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Quick Shady players question i just heard on the radio.. The goalie tandem that Patrick Roy put out of business when he became a regular with the Canadians.S and S.P __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

05-31-2003, 05:51 PM	#893
ice4277 Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkley, MI: The Hotbed of FOFC!	Karim, Thoughts on those ideas: 1.) This is only common sense and the league really does need to do this. 2.) I'm not too familiar with this, so I can't really comment on it. 3.) Not necessarily in favor of this. I don't think players right now are having a problem shooting, but that the goalies have too big of an advantage. 4.) I don't think they should get rid of the red line, I think it would lead to too many icings if the rule were gone. I do think getting rid of the two-line pass is a good idea. 5.) Not in favor of this; again, take the equipment advantage away from the goalies and things will start evening out. 6.) No no no no no. They will alienate just as many fans as they would hope to keep or grow. Not that they seem to give a shit about the traditional/hardcore hockey fan at the moment anyways. 7.) I guess I wouldn't be too opposed to a shootout in the regular season as long as it is kept as 5 on 5 for the playoffs. Might make things more exciting, and they would probably even themselves out over the course of a season anyways. 8.) Common sense, but I can't see how they can do it any better than they already do; maybe threaten the refs with suspension/termination but that would seem to hurt the league more than the refs in the long run. 9.) I think the sped-up faceoffs have really helped to take care of this problem for this season. 10.) Dumb. Something like that should be reserved for crappy second-rate leagues trying to differentiate themselves from the top.

06-01-2003, 01:03 AM	#895
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Bah...double post __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob. Last edited by bbor : 06-01-2003 at 01:05 AM.

06-01-2003, 01:48 AM	#896
klayman College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edmonton	Steve Penny and Doug Soetart Edit: knew there was a reason I couldn't sleep Last edited by klayman : 06-01-2003 at 01:49 AM.

06-01-2003, 02:02 AM	#897
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Nice jon Klayman..thought it would be harder than that...Soetart would be the hard one. WHat was the name of the lefthanded Oilers goalie from the 80's..his name was Markus something...any ideas? __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

06-01-2003, 02:04 AM	#898
Mantle2600 High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Dawg Pound	Markus Asshat. __________________ Member of the Underground Browns. Cavs. Tribe. Buckeyes. Period.

06-01-2003, 03:23 AM	#900
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Nope...pretty sure this guys first name was Markus....i remember his hockey card Perhaps i am confusing what team he played for...but i don't think so. __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

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