03-01-2018, 07:00 AM | #8901 | |
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FWIW, I didn't read your statement literally as in a nuclear war. This is what I was thinking and definitely agree. Sure there will be other traditional conflicts but cyberwar is going to be more and more prominent in the future. If we are behind, we better get ramped up and quick. |
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03-01-2018, 07:19 AM | #8902 | |
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There's a guy who lives behind me who is a gun dealer. He said that business was booming during Obama, but since the election it's been so dead he's not sure he can't even make money with it.
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03-01-2018, 07:30 AM | #8903 |
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Thanks, Obama.
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03-01-2018, 11:26 AM | #8904 | ||
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Thank you. I may lean a little left, but I definitely don't try to come off as a far left nutcase. I'm just as likely to vote Republican as I do Democrat as I mostly just want competence in my government officials. I truly believe that's what we all want, even with all our differences. Honestly, Marco Rubio said it best when it comes to Russia's efforts to influence the elections and those that are willing to look the other way/don't want to acknowledge what's going on: https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...et-for-hackers Quote:
I'm not sure we're behind, but I'm not sure there's ever really a way to be ahead. If hackers want to get in, they'll find a way. IT Security is a Multi-Billion dollar industry at this point and that still tends to be the underlying slogan for it. We already have the resources and manpower in place, we've used them in North Korea and a few other hotspots, but Russia is a different animal entirely. The best way to combat their tactics is to sanction, threaten, and show our capabilities in ways that hopefully slow down their efforts. Unfortunately, from what I can tell, based off intel reports and what most media sources are saying, all we are doing is preventative tactics which won't stop or even slow down what's going on. |
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03-01-2018, 12:28 PM | #8905 |
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I'd argue the more likely scenario is that you (the US) are actually far enough ahead that you aren't being caught so blatantly.
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03-01-2018, 12:28 PM | #8906 | |
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I was flabbergasted to see Trump say 'worry about due process later.' I've also noticed that family members who were quick to accuse Obama of having a secret plan to grab all the guns haven't uttered a peep about Trump's proposals of yesterday. So to the extent any of Trump's supporters are up-in-arms about the comments, they at least don't appear to be displaying that outrage in my little circle. But it also wouldn't be the first time Trump has said "let's do this, we're gonna do this thing right here" and then nothing has ever come of it. So even without the "grab the guns first, worry about due process later," I'm skeptical that any of his other (frankly, more liberal than the GOP Congressional caucus would prefer) proposals from yesterday are ever going to see the light of day. Someone will get in his ear and tell him why it's a bad idea, and the whole "the last person he talks to is what he decides he believes" thing that we've seen documented over and over will come to the fore. |
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03-01-2018, 12:37 PM | #8907 |
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This also seems like a really easy walk-back for the White House.
"The President was expressing the frustration that all Americans share about criminals [read, black people] having easy access to fireams. He supports, as he always has, the fundamental Constitutional right for law-abiding Americans [read, white people] to keep and bear arms. He hopes that legislators in both parties will support him in his efforts to keep Americans safe and provide additional resources to law enforcement to help meet that goal." |
03-01-2018, 12:44 PM | #8908 |
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We've never had an administration where the President says whatever he wants and then the staff determines whether or not they will support it or ignore it. I assume, but don't know, that Kelly and Pence have a hell of a lot of power right now, either directly or through staff that they nominally control.
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03-01-2018, 01:14 PM | #8909 |
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And just like that, the Dow is down 500 points after Trump announces he'll slap 25% tariffs on steel and 10% tariffs on aluminum.
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03-01-2018, 02:36 PM | #8910 | |
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There were stories coming out around the convention that Trump's campaign offered Kasich the VP slot and that it would be "the most powerful VP in history." Basically, as the rumors went, Trump didn't want to govern. He wanted the title, the prestige, and the attention. Wouldn't shock me at all if Pence is the one calling the actionable shots while Trump gets the headlines. |
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03-01-2018, 03:06 PM | #8911 | |
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Hah, you have more faith than I do. Sure the US probably has tremendous capabilities in some areas but I do think there are very likely a lot of gaps. |
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03-01-2018, 04:47 PM | #8912 | |
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McMaster is rumored to be next.
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03-01-2018, 04:51 PM | #8913 |
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Maybe it's not as bad as it looks, but things in the White House seem like they are disintegrating to a greater degree than they have previously.
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03-01-2018, 05:15 PM | #8914 |
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03-01-2018, 05:28 PM | #8915 |
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03-01-2018, 05:44 PM | #8916 |
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03-01-2018, 06:54 PM | #8917 | |
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Just a word of caution here-I've seen at least three reports over the past 6-9 months that Gen Kelly was leaving, yet he is still here. So don't hold your breath on this one. My money is on Sessions leaving next-I'm certainly not a fan of his, but Trump thinks Sessions job is to protect him, and he's going to keep pushing him until he leaves and he finds someone who will try to do that.
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03-01-2018, 11:48 PM | #8918 | |
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Yeah, that's what I suspect too. Personally I don't pay much attention to it anymore, I am just waiting for every election from now on to make sure I always vote and that my friends also do. Apart from my amusement at some of the fanatics finally having enough on reddit, there are definitely still a lot of people who are able to pull off Mary Lou Retton type shit in their brains and that works for them I guess. More power to them if they can't wake up and see that he doesn't serve anyone's interests but his own.. Or the person he just got done speaking with.
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03-02-2018, 12:03 AM | #8919 | |
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WSJ puts this into perspective nicely https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-...lly-1519950205 He really is a tool for big corporations easily able to convince him in meetings ... Also, would only have a german link right now but the last time this was done (Bush 2002) this lead to more lost jobs in steel manufacturing firms than were even employed in steel production. (200k vs 185k)
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03-02-2018, 08:28 AM | #8920 |
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OMG, we're in trouble.
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03-02-2018, 08:39 AM | #8921 |
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Who knew a guy who bankrupts everything he touches would be bad at economic policy. Go figure.
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03-02-2018, 08:47 AM | #8922 |
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He should go back to tweeting about the important things like Russia talking up new missiles...or Alec Baldwin on SNL. Baldwin hit back though. I may have to revise my "Who goes next" prediction-Gary Cohn tried to get the President to change his mind about the tariffs and lost in the end.
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03-02-2018, 09:04 AM | #8923 |
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What I want to know is why his handlers are letting him tweet about international trade. Guns and immigration are two issues that play to his base on which no meaningful legislation will actually happen. Why aren't they having him talk about that?
He can actually cause some recession-level damage if investors start to think that he's going to try and implement some of his economic "ideas." |
03-02-2018, 09:15 AM | #8924 |
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I'm thinking I made a pretty good decision getting out of the dairy business. Guess who is going to be the first to take the brunt of a trade war? The farmer. Yet, the Farm Bureau gave Trump a rousing ovation at their annual meeting because he put those damn NFL players in their place for kneeling during the national anthem. #priorities
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03-02-2018, 09:25 AM | #8925 | |
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Doesn't it play into the same base though? |
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03-02-2018, 09:27 AM | #8926 |
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03-02-2018, 09:28 AM | #8927 |
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I'm not saying that they should have him come out in favor of free trade; I'm saying that they shouldn't have him talking or thinking about the issue at all. |
03-02-2018, 10:01 AM | #8928 |
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You're assuming that the staff and the President discuss issues, plot a course of action, and formulate a messaging plan. It sure seems like the President just says whatever makes him feel good at the moment, especially when angered or buoyed by a Fox News segment.
edit: Steel companies apparently started running pro-tariff commercials on Fox hoping they would push the President towards that policy.
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03-02-2018, 10:49 AM | #8930 | |
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As much as I would like to see his staff straight jacket him or otherwise contain him, I don't think that's realistic. What do you want them to do? I'm sure they are trying. Last edited by jeff061 : 03-02-2018 at 10:51 AM. |
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03-02-2018, 11:06 AM | #8931 | |
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I guess so! Saw this this article a couple days ago: As Milk Prices Decline, Worries About Dairy Farmer Suicides Rise : NPR |
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03-02-2018, 11:24 AM | #8932 | |
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"YOU'RE FIRED!?"
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03-02-2018, 11:58 AM | #8933 |
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03-02-2018, 03:13 PM | #8934 | |
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Considering he has only been in office for 7 months, those reports from 9 months ago are jumping the gun a little. |
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03-02-2018, 03:27 PM | #8935 | |
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So these reports have become so common I forget who they were talking about Besides Trump has already labelled it fake news, so nothing to see here I guess.
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So, thsi is now being reported...
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03-02-2018, 03:53 PM | #8937 | |
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Us farmers have a higher rate of suicide than veterans, I'm told. In fact just last week I noticed an alarming post on a Dairy forum I read. The guy didn't outright say he was suicidal but I ended up reaching out and talked to the guy on the phone where he admitted he had considered suicide. But he was in much better spirits after a nice long talk (mostly listening on my part). |
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03-02-2018, 04:14 PM | #8938 |
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I love how a guy that says trade wars are easy to win and was able to sum his economic strategy in 1 tweet was able to sell his base on being a genius businessman.
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03-02-2018, 04:30 PM | #8939 |
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Ex-Trump adviser sold $31m in shares days before president announced steel tariffs | Business | The Guardian
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03-02-2018, 04:55 PM | #8940 | |
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I grew up in a farm town. I don't think many people understand how lonely the job can be, even if you have employees. There's really no peers for the owner at most family farms. If depression hits, I could see it being really hard to find a way out, and that's without adding in the tough it out culture of the midwest.
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03-02-2018, 05:07 PM | #8941 | |
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So true. Luckily my dad was always open about his own depression that he successfully managed when we were growing up. When I came home to run the farm he warned me that it would more than likely be something I deal with. That came to pass a two years ago for me. Minus a bump or two in the road, I've learned how to manage it myself. You'd think selling the cows would throw me back down in the hole but I'm feeling my mental health get even better now. |
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03-03-2018, 12:05 PM | #8942 | |
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Report: Donald Trump misled the public about freeing UCLA basketball players
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03-03-2018, 09:20 PM | #8943 |
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03-03-2018, 09:31 PM | #8944 |
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And Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell still don't care.
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Hey, Quik, Donny from Queens here, first time long time, anyhow, we are getting crushed in trade, we need to tax the eff out of, hey look at the legs on that one, and a real shame about those kids in Florida, I mean I would have run into that building, but next time, we'll give the football coach a rocket launcher and we'll blow the hell out of those madmen.
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03-05-2018, 10:11 AM | #8947 |
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Credit to Ross for coming up with a diplomatic way to say “the hell if I know!”
Chuck Todd on Twitter: "Perhaps this should be a pinned tweet: Commerce Sec Ross after I asked if it’s possible POTUS could rescind his tariff proposal: “Whatever his final decision is, is what will happen. What he has said he has said; if he says something different, it’ll be something different”"
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03-05-2018, 03:11 PM | #8948 | |
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Looking forward to his perp walk. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
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03-05-2018, 03:17 PM | #8949 | |
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All Mueller can threaten him with is jail. Russian spy critically ill after being 'poisoned' by unknown substance in SalisburyÂ* |
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03-05-2018, 03:39 PM | #8950 |
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Nunberg is a prime example of why you should sober up from a long weekend of snorting coke prior to going on national TV to speak about an investigation that you are likely part of.
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