WW LXIX - Battlestar WereWolf - GAME OVER CYLONS WIN!

[PurdueBrad]

We've still got a couple other tricks up our sleeve but this was a great start.

[PurdueBrad]

Oh yeah, and Path12, you're a bad man.

[PurdueBrad]

Or I guess Cylon, that should be!

[st.cronin]

Suggestions for nfg:

1. Has anybody been converted?
2. Who else is a cylon?
3. Do you have any clues about earth?
4. What items do the cylons have?
5. Do any of the cylons have special abilities?
6. What are the character names of the cylons?

[mauchow]

How many cylons are left?

[PurdueBrad]

Do they have to be yes/no or can they be anything?

If they are yes/no, I would recommend asking about specific people, a la "Is ___________ a cylon?"

If they can be anything, I'm particularly big on these but I'm not sure how much info we can get (can he lie?).

Who are the other cylons?
How many cylons are left?
Has there been a conversion?

I like using the first two questions to gauge his truthfulness. If we get answers that match (he gives two names and says two cylons left) we know the answers are truthful, if they don't, than we have to really evaluate his answers.

Items and the earth questions aren't bad, but I would like to focus on getting us to a positive end game point.

[PurdueBrad]

One other fear is that in the old show, one of the bad guys was a human. Do we screw ourselves by asking about cylons? Can we even ask something as vague as "how many total enemies to the humans are there?"

[The Jackal]

If path was telling the truth about his role, it's very possible that he doesn't know how many cylons there are, so you have to be careful with questions about that.

[path12]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Oh yeah, and Path12, you're a bad man.

[Narcizo]

I can't really imagine that overt questions like "who are the other cylons" is going to work. Asking about numbers, conversions, that sort of thing might be a better tack. I'm thinking straight out questions might be possible for him to lie about.

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by path12

[jeheinz72]

Or with a limited number of people out of the COT you could just ask about specific people to.

Is Sonic Youth (as an example) a cylon
Is jeheinz72 a cylon

That sort of thing, if we don't think we can ask for things that aren't yes/no

[jeheinz72]

IOW, what PB said! Hehe

[PurdueBrad]

One of you guys that has been in a game with an interrogation like this, how does it normally work? In other words, what ground rules usually govern the questions and, more importantly, the answers.

[jeheinz72]

Hey guys, just an FYI, I split in 2 hours and won't be in until Monday AM, so I'll miss Day 5 altogether.

I've asked RendeR to vote for me (I gave him a list of priority), if I'm allowed to do that, for Day 5. Hopefully it's not too out-of-touch for that day.

For today, my vote is of course still on path.

[PurdueBrad]

Heinz, have a good weekend!

[Narcizo]

Anyone else finding the timing of the attack interesting? I presume that Render has been reading his PMs in order. Which means that Path sent the order to shoot after Jackal sent the armour to PB. When we had all day yesterday why did Path wait till now?

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

One of you guys that has been in a game with an interrogation like this, how does it normally work? In other words, what ground rules usually govern the questions and, more importantly, the answers.

I don't ever remember anything like this.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Anyone else finding the timing of the attack interesting? I presume that Render has been reading his PMs in order. Which means that Path sent the order to shoot after Jackal sent the armour to PB. When we had all day yesterday why did Path wait till now?

I thought about this too, I figured today that basically nothing would happen that was all that exciting, what with the runaway, etc.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Heinz, have a good weekend!

Thanks PB! Just 2 more hours to go!

[Narcizo]

Good luck with the interrogation nfg. I'm off for the night.

[nfg22]

Render, are there any rules that you are willing to share?

[nfg22]

Ok can I get a list of questions we want to ask...there have been alot throw out there. Right now my three are...

1. What is your exact role?
2. Is Heinz a cyclon?
3. How many Cyclons are left?

Of course these could all change based on what Render says and what you guys say.

[jeheinz72]

I like those 3
Although 1 may be kinda pointless, given that he's about to be lynched anyhow and it's pretty clear he's bad at least on some level.

Maybe instead something about clues to Earth?

I think we're doing a good job of finding Cylons, or at least people who are on the Cylon side, I'd hate to see us blow this by them getting to Earth.

[st.cronin]

I think we need to ask if there has been a conversion, and if possible when.

[jeheinz72]

Wait wait wait, I just thought of a problem here. What if Path doesn't have to be honest with us?

I mean he could say people who aren't cylons are, or that conversions haven't happened when they have and so on.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Wait wait wait, I just thought of a problem here. What if Path doesn't have to be honest with us?

I mean he could say people who aren't cylons are, or that conversions haven't happened when they have and so on.

I agree this is possible but we simply factor it into our evaluation of whatever he says. We still should ask the questions.

[nfg22]

If he doesnt have to be truthful then what is the point of an interrogation at all?

[nfg22]

Oh...and the first question is to see whether the last two are accuarate. If he isnt a wolf then he wont know the last two..

[nfg22]

PB can I get some help here?

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by nfg22

Render, are there any rules that you are willing to share?

No. Send me a list of questions and the writeup will follow shortly thereafter.


Thanks to everyone for bearing with me today as I caught up and dealt with things. Hopefully I'll be able to handle things normally the rest of the way.

[mauchow]

Will we all know the answers ? Or will it be at nfg's discretion?

Anyways, I think the questions thought up are good and I'd be fine with any of them being asked. Here's to getting some good information.

[PurdueBrad]

Hey NFG, your ideas are probably as good as mine.

I like maybe doing something like:

Is Claphamsa a cylon?
Is __________ a cylon?
Is __________ a cylon?

OR

How many cylons were in the beginning of the game?
How many cylons are left?
and a third question

[PurdueBrad]

Obviously with mine, the Claphamsa question is to set a guage of honesty.

[path12]

Don't ask to become immortal. I made that mistake last game RendeR ran.

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by path12

Don't ask to become immortal. I made that mistake last game RendeR ran.

Path, I had forgotten that, that was truly funny (especially know that you've tried to shoot me!).

[Sonic Youth]

Originally Posted by nfg22

just to let you know. I was on viper 2 last night...not galactica

Originally Posted by nfg22

Also I do have a role. I am the Admiral, it just doesnt do anything as far as I know.

That's a lie, as I saw both you and Jehinez walk into the hanger bay as I launched the Viper last night.

Care to explain why you'd say this?

[RendeR]

Admiral Adama calls for path to be brought into the medical center aboard Pegasus. He and Col. Tigh and the ships doctor strap down Path12.

They bring out a locked box and from it extract a large needle with an eery green-yellow liguid in it.

"This drug was created many years ago, it affects the brain and acts as a truth serum. Doctor...please begin"

The doctor injects path12 with the serum.

Paths face goes slack, he drools a lot. like...massively...someone wipes his chin.

"1. What is your exact role?"

I am a cylon, I am here to eliminate you for God's greater purpose.

"2. Is Heinz a cyclon?"

No

"3. How many Cyclons are left?"

Billions


Suddenly convulsions wrack path's body his eyes bleed his eardrums explode and his fingernails crul up and fall off.

path12, brother Cavil, a CYLON is dead.

[Sonic Youth]

I've been on Galatica all this time after getting the Viper.

[Sonic Youth]

I guess we should have seen the answer to question 3 coming.

Does this count as the dealine for tonight?

[mauchow]

OUCH on the how many cylons left.

The only good we got out of those questions is the Heinz question.

Anyways, lets get the night moving..

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by Sonic Youth

I guess we should have seen the answer to question 3 coming.

Does this count as the dealine for tonight?

Good question, because I can quickly change my vote.

[PurdueBrad]

unvote Path

VOTE ST. CRONIN

[Sonic Youth]

Unvote Path.

Vote St.Cronin.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Sonic Youth

I guess we should have seen the answer to question 3 coming.

Does this count as the dealine for tonight?

No. Deadline is still at 9pm EST

[PurdueBrad]

An hour and ten minutes, we'll need to swing the votes from Path12 to our next person. I've laid out why I'm going St. Cronin but am willing to hear other names.

[RendeR]

I will assume for the sake of game play that all votes for path12 are hereby null and void.

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by RendeR

I will assume for the sake of game play that all votes for path12 are hereby null and void.

Thanks RendeR, I know you're a smart aleck like me and I thought it would've been funny to see us lynching Path12's dead body!

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Thanks RendeR, I know you're a smart aleck like me and I thought it would've been funny to see us lynching Path12's dead body!

*laughs* no, even I wouldn't be quite that bad =)

[mauchow]

Now i suppose anybody who might not have seen this latest action and already submitted their night actions will now lose their night action due to the fact that they did not technically vote.

Anyhow... my vote is coming up.