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Old 01-30-2018, 04:11 PM   #8351
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The speed and ease with which Trumpkins willingly throw away their dignity is astonishing. This, from Sec. Pruitt:

And no one has done more to destroy this country's landscape/nature/safety than Sec. Pruitt. and Sec Zinke. I'm sure the Democrats were very happy to get their chance to let Pruitt know that.
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Old 01-30-2018, 04:34 PM   #8352
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Seems Pruitt had a different view of Trump back when he was advising Jeb Bush:

EPA’s Pruitt in 2016: Trump would be 'abusive to the Constitution' - POLITICO
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Old 01-30-2018, 04:53 PM   #8353
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:12 PM   #8354
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Joe Kennedy 3 to deliver the rebuttal to the SOTU

And Bernie Sanders will deliver the response the left cares about
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Old 01-30-2018, 07:44 PM   #8355
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GOP still talking about "rule of law". Think you guys lost your moral high ground on that one.

Or we can just put that and "law and order" to bed as generic, meaningless phrases exposed as the dog whistles they've always been.

From Wallace to Trump: The Evolution of "Law and Order"
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Old 01-30-2018, 07:56 PM   #8356
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And Bernie Sanders will deliver the response the left cares about

Not this leftist.
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Old 01-30-2018, 08:48 PM   #8357
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Watched it for 30 min and now surfing.

Typical State of the Union speech (so far at least) which is a good thing.

I do think Trump is "acting more Presidential". Its relative of course, but certainly better than before ... possibly the John Kelly connection?
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Old 01-30-2018, 09:26 PM   #8358
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Every time he gives a speech like this he comes across more presidential and carries a message of healing and coming together.

Then 6 hours and a dozen tweets later he contradicts every single thing he said.
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Old 01-30-2018, 09:30 PM   #8359
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It's because it is scripted and he sticks to the script. It's once he has to try to be himself when things go horribly wrong.
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Old 01-30-2018, 10:43 PM   #8360
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I am not sure whey the SotU is a super big deal. I mean, after having watched so many of these it's so scripted, so canned, so meaty for whichever side is in control of the exec. You know he didn't write a lick of that speech, so what difference does it really make?
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Old 01-30-2018, 11:05 PM   #8361
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Old 01-30-2018, 11:16 PM   #8362
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I am not sure whey the SotU is a super big deal. I mean, after having watched so many of these it's so scripted, so canned, so meaty for whichever side is in control of the exec. You know he didn't write a lick of that speech, so what difference does it really make?

Pretty much sums it up for me as well. It's just a politician blowing hot air. I didn't watch Bush. I didn't watch Obama. And I sure as hell won't watch Trump.
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Old 01-31-2018, 07:30 AM   #8363
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While I certainly agree with this, Democratic messaging on this bill has been nothing short of awful. If I read another thing about how the tax bill will affect what I do in 2027 I'm gonna puke. No one cares about 2027.

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Yup.

On that note, am I correct in assuming that some percentage of the country will see an increase in take-home pay at some point in 2018? Assuming also that Republicans have calibrated the bill to make that percentage to be high enough, wouldn't it then play a significant role in the midterms? ("My Party voted to give you that extra money in your paycheck every month; the other guy's Party voted to keep your money.") Isn't that all that really matters politically here? Yes, I get that long-term ramifications matter in many other ways, but to the average dolt voting...
Got my first elevated paycheck. The amount isn't insignificant.
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Old 01-31-2018, 07:41 AM   #8364
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Got my first elevated paycheck. The amount isn't insignificant.

Was 53 bucks for me.
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Old 01-31-2018, 08:22 AM   #8365
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I also had a fairly large change in my check, but since we haven't adjusted W4s I don't view this money as mine. With the other changes to state tax deductions and exemptions, I believe my taxes will actually go up this year, so I will be sitting this money aside and ensuring that they actually deduct more going forward to be sure I don't pay any penalties.
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Old 01-31-2018, 09:46 AM   #8366
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Got my first elevated paycheck. The amount isn't insignificant.

Same here. About a $62 more.
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Old 01-31-2018, 09:50 AM   #8367
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It'll be interesting to see if these adjustments are accurate as presently as far as I've heard no one quite knows and it might be that they're withholding too much or too little which will affect pay next year ...
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Old 01-31-2018, 10:42 AM   #8369
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I think I'm doing something wrong here. My Federal withholding went down, but my SS taxes were way up, like more than double what my October withholding was. Guess I need to contact HR folks...
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Old 01-31-2018, 10:56 AM   #8370
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CDC director bought tobacco stock while in office | TheHill

article doesn't say it, but she has now resigned.

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare...tobacco-stocks
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Old 01-31-2018, 10:58 AM   #8371
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Was 53 bucks for me.

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It'll be interesting to see if these adjustments are accurate as presently as far as I've heard no one quite knows and it might be that they're withholding too much or too little which will affect pay next year ...

There was definitely something off in regards to this on my check. In Arizona you set your state withholding to be a percentage of your federal withholding, and despite my federal going down, the state amount stayed the same. Actually not bad for me, since I always get a nice sum back from state and breakeven on federal, but I am still going to check into it as I don't want issues next tax year.
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Old 01-31-2018, 11:07 AM   #8372
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Train carrying GOP lawmakers hits truck in Virginia | TheHill

does not appear to be injuries to anyone on the train at the moment.
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Old 01-31-2018, 11:54 AM   #8373
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Prayers to the people in the truck, and I'm glad the people on the train are fine.

The GOP is in a trainwreck with a garbage truck is a bit too on the nose.
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Old 01-31-2018, 11:55 AM   #8374
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I think I'm doing something wrong here. My Federal withholding went down, but my SS taxes were way up, like more than double what my October withholding was. Guess I need to contact HR folks...

Maybe you maxed out your SS taxes in October so it wasn't a full withholding? I usually max out in May so I get a big jump in take home pay starting in June.
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Maybe you maxed out your SS taxes in October so it wasn't a full withholding? I usually max out in May so I get a big jump in take home pay starting in June.

Yowza. Can I borrow a couple hundred grand?
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Old 01-31-2018, 12:34 PM   #8376
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does not appear to be injuries to anyone on the train at the moment.

It looks like now one person from the trash truck was dead at the scene, another critically injured. One Rep from Minnesota I think that I have never heard of went to be checked for concussion/neck injury. A staffer too.
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Old 01-31-2018, 12:38 PM   #8377
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Rep Gowdy of SC, who has been a thorn in the side of liberals/Democrats announces he will not run for reelection. He says he prefers the justice system more than the political system now. Nominated to the Supreme Court in 3.2.1...

Gowdy won't seek reelection - POLITICO
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Old 01-31-2018, 12:48 PM   #8378
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Rep Menendez of NJ who got a deadlock jury in his corruption trial, was going to be retried by the Justice Dept, but now they have reversed that decision:

Justice Department seeks dismissal of Menendez case - POLITICO
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Rep Gowdy of SC, who has been a thorn in the side of liberals/Democrats announces he will not run for reelection. He says he prefers the justice system more than the political system now. Nominated to the Supreme Court in 3.2.1...

Gowdy won't seek reelection - POLITICO

EDIT: Looks like am opening in the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals, which covers South Carolina just opened up yesterday, and many think he's angling for that.
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Old 01-31-2018, 01:37 PM   #8380
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FBI chief has 'grave concerns,' clashes with Trump over GOP memo

Obvious sign of the "Deep State" afraid of being exposed. /s

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Old 01-31-2018, 01:52 PM   #8381
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The irony is just dripping in buckets here.
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Old 01-31-2018, 01:58 PM   #8382
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None of which he caused of course.
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Old 01-31-2018, 02:09 PM   #8383
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A great deal of which he caused, of course. He's the poster child for increasing partisan atmosphere regarding that nothingburger of Bengazi.
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Old 01-31-2018, 04:15 PM   #8384
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Old 01-31-2018, 05:45 PM   #8385
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Trump golf course in Florida sues over property tax bill

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President Donald Trump says the Trump National Golf Club in Florida is worth more than $50 million.

Palm Beach County Property Tax Appraiser Dorothy Jacks disagrees, saying the Jupiter course, where Trump plays when he visits nearby Mar-a-Lago, is actually worth much less — $19 million.

But in a twist, Trump's lawyers are now suing Jacks, saying her estimate and the nearly $400,000 property tax bill it generates are too high, even if her appraisal is only 40 percent of what the president listed in his 2017 financial disclosure form.

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Old 01-31-2018, 06:25 PM   #8386
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100 bucks more here.

On first glance mine either remained the same or was slightly higher. I used the tax estimator that Farrah recommended to look at withholding for next year.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/th...owe-2017-10-26

It estimated a yearly drop after deductions of about $1200 dollars.

That's a savings of 8/10ths of a percent of my estimated 2017 income.

Or the functional equivalent of a $.70/hr raise on our income for a family of 5.
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Old 01-31-2018, 07:00 PM   #8388
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I don't think the issue with the tax cut was that people wouldn't get something back. I think the issue is that it's really going to fuck over your kids.

This is the first casualty.

United States Will Hit Debt Limit Sooner Than Expected Because of Tax Cuts - The New York Times

It just continues a trend of boomers raiding the coffers of government at the expense of younger generations.
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Old 01-31-2018, 07:09 PM   #8389
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Old 01-31-2018, 07:11 PM   #8390
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I mean I live in a state that boomers destroyed. Gave themselves all sorts of goodies. Didn't bother paying into the pensions either. Now they're living the good life or moved down to Florida and the rest of us are stuck footing the bill.

My favorite is when they lecture those millennials about how lazy they are. The generation that has accomplished nothing besides giving themselves free shit at the expense of their children talking about laziness.
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I mean I live in a state that boomers destroyed. Gave themselves all sorts of goodies. Didn't bother paying into the pensions either. Now they're living the good life or moved down to Florida and the rest of us are stuck footing the bill.

My favorite is when they lecture those millennials about how lazy they are. The generation that has accomplished nothing besides giving themselves free shit at the expense of their children talking about laziness.

There's room in Colorado for the both of us.

But yes. We're getting out of this fucked state at just the right time. There's just zero future for this state but more and more debt and unpaid bills.

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Not sure that's "typical."
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Old 01-31-2018, 10:51 PM   #8393
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There's room in Colorado for the both of us.

But yes. We're getting out of this fucked state at just the right time. There's just zero future for this state but more and more debt and unpaid bills.

My brother moved a few years back to Colorado and loves it (Boulder).

I've been looking in Minnesota. My job gives me flexibility and I loved it when I was younger. Blown away by how much more value you can get for homes and how much cheaper property taxes are. I hear they even have a surplus!
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Or more "presidential."
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Old 02-01-2018, 09:48 AM   #8396
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Trump pumping up his crowd numbers again:

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Trump tells friends and associates he believes that the Nunes memo can help discredit Russia Investigation.

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Old 02-01-2018, 10:52 AM   #8398
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I'm beginning to think he may not have fired Comey because he was too mean to Hillary.
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Old 02-01-2018, 08:47 PM   #8399
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Seems like the liberal vs conservatives battle is also happening in Canada. Looks like they have changed the national anthem there to be gender-neutral:

http://www.cnn.com/2018/02/01/americ...rnd/index.html
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Old 02-01-2018, 10:23 PM   #8400
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I do get the “Don't really care/how weird that people think this is important“ sentiment with these sort of issues, but for the life of me just don't understand how you can protest this. There is literally no way this could impact anybody in a negative way, so why deny people perceiving it as positive change ?

“some things should never change“ is especially idiotic since a) it was only instated ad the NA in 1980 and b) it is not only a translation but in fact the english lyrics have been changed before !
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