The Trump Presidency – 2016

[Thomkal]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
The Fake News Awards, those going to the most corrupt & biased of the Mainstream Media, will be presented to the losers on Wednesday, January 17th, rather than this coming Monday. The interest in, and importance of, these awards is far greater than anyone could have anticipated!

[molson]

I am extraordinarily thankful that Trump spends most of his time golfing and watching TV.

[CrimsonFox]

There's such a fine line between genius and stupid...

[BBT]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
The Fake News Awards, those going to the most corrupt & biased of the Mainstream Media, will be presented to the losers on Wednesday, January 17th, rather than this coming Monday. The interest in, and importance of, these awards is far greater than anyone could have anticipated!

It amazes me that this is where we are now.

[NobodyHere]

Stephen Miller had to be escorted off CNN's set after his interview with Jake Tapper went off the rails

Looks like CNN just grabbed themselves a fake newsie!

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Stephen Miller had to be escorted off CNN's set after his interview with Jake Tapper went off the rails

Looks like CNN just grabbed themselves a fake newsie!

I don't know what it is about Miller, but just his appearance and that smug look he always wears makes me want to slap him Rick James style.

[Fidatelo]

I'm curious, do a lot of American's actually enjoy/respect the tweets, nicknames and 'fake news awards' chicanery, or do even his supporters (in general) just put up with it because they feel he pushes their agenda in the right direction? Is the concept of 'class' and acting 'presidential' just something archaic in large portions of America at this point?

[mauchow]

A lot of people don't follow Twitter. The few supporters I know don't believe it's actually him tweeting. It can't be they say...

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Fidatelo

I'm curious, do a lot of American's actually enjoy/respect the tweets, nicknames and 'fake news awards' chicanery, or do even his supporters (in general) just put up with it because they feel he pushes their agenda in the right direction? Is the concept of 'class' and acting 'presidential' just something archaic in large portions of America at this point?

I think a little bit of everything. I know some people who voted for him because they are single issue voters but personally dislike the guy.

There are also plenty of people who like his 'plain speaking' style as opposed to the highly polished manufactured speeches one expects of the PotUS. I'll even admit I am amused by his antics from time to time even though I hate him as President.

As for the whole fake news things, he's just giving his base some meat. They've been hearing for years about the dreaded liberal media and how you can't trust anyone not named Limbaugh or Hannity. He's reinforcing their world-view in that regard.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Fidatelo

I'm curious, do a lot of American's actually enjoy/respect the tweets, nicknames and 'fake news awards' chicanery, or do even his supporters (in general) just put up with it because they feel he pushes their agenda in the right direction? Is the concept of 'class' and acting 'presidential' just something archaic in large portions of America at this point?

This is from December, but you can find a number of other polls with similar results.

Just 26 percent of 1,500 Americans polled said that Trump's use of Twitter was appropriate, according to a survey from The Economist and YouGov.

[Thomkal]

Donald Trump's Legal Team Has a Laughable Plan to Avoid an Interview with Robert Mueller | Alternet

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

I don't know what it is about Miller, but just his appearance and that smug look he always wears makes me want to slap him Rick James style.

I'll pay you $200 if you get the chance and i can watch. Cause i know how hard you'll crack him. I wanna see that.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

I don't know what it is about Miller, but just his appearance and that smug look he always wears makes me want to slap him Rick James style.

It's like God was trying to create a human being with the most punchable face ever and came up with Ted Cruz, but thought, "No wait! I can do better!" And so we have Stephen Miller.

[Toddzilla]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

I'll pay you $200 if you get the chance and i can watch. Cause i know how hard you'll crack him. I wanna see that.

Someone on Twitter said Miller is what happens when you spend your entire childhood in your room

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Toddzilla

Someone on Twitter said Miller is what happens when you spend your entire childhood in your room

That's not fair. He was a track star.

[Miller] jumped, uninvited, into the final stretch of a girls' track meet, apparently intent on proving his athletic supremacy over the opposite sex. (The White House, reaching for exculpatory context, noted that this was a girls' team from another school, not his own.)

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by mauchow

A lot of people don't follow Twitter. The few supporters I know don't believe it's actually him tweeting. It can't be they say...

Yeah when you listen to the elegance with which he speaks the tweets can throw you off.

[PilotMan]

Couple of good articles showing genius on display.

Trump Speaks At Fourth-Grade Level, Lowest Of Last 15 U.S. Presidents, New Analysis Finds

U.S. Army Likes Tweet Mocking Trump for Being Stupid

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by molson

I am extraordinarily thankful that Trump spends most of his time golfing and watching TV.

It's probably for the best, but it also seems really troublesome that the executive branch runs on its own often contradicting or ignoring the statements of the President.

[Edward64]

I really don't think Oprah is qualified to be President. Hollywood elitist snobs at it again.

Now I do think she can play a role in a Cabinet and she can definitely contribute but as prez is going too far IMO.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by Edward64

I really don't think Oprah is qualified to be President. Hollywood elitist snobs at it again.

Now I do think she can play a role in a Cabinet and she can definitely contribute but as prez is going too far IMO.

This 100%

Fuck us if we haven't learned that with out current occupant.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

I'll pay you $200 if you get the chance and i can watch. Cause i know how hard you'll crack him. I wanna see that.

I would gladly pay you $200 if you could set it up...

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

It's like God was trying to create a human being with the most punchable face ever and came up with Ted Cruz, but thought, "No wait! I can do better!" And so we have Stephen Miller.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

It's like God was trying to create a human being with the most punchable face ever and came up with Ted Cruz, but thought, "No wait! I can do better!" And so we have Stephen Miller.

I think Phillip Rivers was also a test subject.

[mauchow]

I would never have guessed Stephen Miller to be 32 years old.

[digamma]

Totally. I would have left off the 2.

[Ben E Lou]

Are we SURE that Stephen Miller didn't kill Mikey Tandino???

[bronconick]

Originally Posted by Edward64

I really don't think Oprah is qualified to be President. Hollywood elitist snobs at it again.

Now I do think she can play a role in a Cabinet and she can definitely contribute but as prez is going too far IMO.

The irony is that she's basically the only liberal celebrity that is more well liked by "regular voters" than coastal elites.

That said, Dems aren't going to follow the celebrity path because they like the idea that a President should know how the government operates.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by bronconick

The irony is that she's basically the only liberal celebrity that is more well liked by "regular voters" than coastal elites.

That said, Dems aren't going to follow the celebrity path because they like the idea that a President should know how the government operates.

MSNBC was exploring the idea of her running on Morning Joe this morning. That would be a huge mistake after we just elected a President with little knowledge of how a government operates (except for how things like natural parks, taxes, and safety regulations for workers prevented him from making more money.) If she's been inspired to run due to Trump, run for the Senate/House, and get some knowledge and experience with issues she's never had to deal with before, and then consider a run for something higher.

[jeff061]

Doesn't really matter how skilled she will be as a president. This is where we are as a country, democrats like to pretend that they are 100% educated intellectuals that would never elect a celebrity with no experience. However there are plenty of idiots on both side of the aisle and Oprah would likely bring out a large amount of voters that would not have voted otherwise.

Not that I like it. It's depressing, but this has always been inevitable.

That said, Dems aren't going to follow the celebrity path because they like the idea that a President should know how the government operates.

Depending on how you are defining "Dems", either you are overestimating voters or underestimating how little that will matter if Dems think she'll give them a better option to win. I do think the Dem establishment will be more open to her than Republicans were to Trump, she's not an erratic mystery with countless red flags.

[molson]

Maybe we can just gradually evolve the presidency into a ceremonial king position, which is always occupied by a celebrity who reflects the U.S. mood at the time. So they'd be our "leader" who can influence policy, but they don't actually work "in government." Then the vice-president, or a newly-created prime minister-type position, can operate as the actual head of the executive branch.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by molson

Maybe we can just gradually evolve the presidency into a ceremonial king position, which is always occupied by a celebrity who reflects the U.S. mood at the time. So they'd be our "leader" who can influence policy, but they don't actually work "in government." Then the vice-president, or a newly-created prime minister-type position, can operate as the actual head of the executive branch.

"I can't believe it took y'all almost 250 years to figure this out"

Spoiler

[Drake]

That is a disturbingly large picture.

ETA: Not a criticism of your photo. I'm actually a big fan of seeing old monarch nose hair.

[larrymcg421]

Oprah is probably the best of the potential left leaning celebrity candidates. Interestingly, I'm certain she's way more moderate than many people would expect. Still, as I've said in the past, we don't need our own version of Trump.

[molson]

I don't care anymore and desperately want a Rock v. Oprah presidential election.

[thesloppy]

[Thomkal]

I think a President Oprah would be expected to give everyone a free car or something.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Are we SURE that Stephen Miller didn't kill Mikey Tandino???

"It's an older reference, sir, but it checks out."

[Thomkal]

From presidential pardon to US Senate?

Arpaio announces Arizona Senate bid | TheHill

[Thomkal]

Dem to introduce 'Stable Genius Act' requiring presidential candidates to take mental exam | TheHill

[Thomkal]

So it seems Dianne Feinstein was fed up with Chuck Grassley's refusal to release the transcript of the head of the firm behind the now infamous dossier. One in which he had called for to be released. So she went behind his back and released it herself. I'm not bored enough to slog through it all-anyone got some spare time on their hands and want to report back what it said and didn't say

Feinstein posts testimony of Fusion GPS co-founder | TheHill

[JPhillips]

Everything's a con.

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration would cut or delay funding for border surveillance, radar technology, patrol boats and customs agents in its upcoming spending plan to curb illegal immigration — all proven security measures that officials and experts have said are more effective than building a wall along the Mexican border.

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

So it seems Dianne Feinstein was fed up with Chuck Grassley's refusal to release the transcript of the head of the firm behind the now infamous dossier. One in which he had called for to be released. So she went behind his back and released it herself. I'm not bored enough to slog through it all-anyone got some spare time on their hands and want to report back what it said and didn't say

Feinstein posts testimony of Fusion GPS co-founder | TheHill

Yeah, Seth Abramson is on it. Shocked. :eyeroll:

[BBT]

Here's some of the highlights:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/09/sen-...testimony.html

Steele, Simpson testified, told him the FBI also had a source inside the Trump operation, although he wasn't sure whether that meant the presidential campaign or the Trump Organization. The bureau was more inclined to believe Steele's information, he said, "because they had other intelligence that indicated the same thing, and one of those pieces of intelligence was a human source from inside the Trump organization."

Simpson touched on how the Trump Organization handles paying taxes: "One of the things we found out was that, you know, when it comes to paying taxes, Donald Trump claims to not have much stuff. At least the Trump organization. So they would make filings with various state and local authorities saying that their buildings weren't worth much."

Simpson discussed Trump's relationship with Sater: "This was something he didn't want to talk about and testified under oath he wouldn't know Felix if he ran into him in the street. That was not true. He knew him well and, in fact, continued to associate with him long after he learned of Felix's organized crime ties. So, you know, that tells you something about somebody."

Fusion GPS Joshua Levy claimed that someone died as a result of the dossier: "Somebody's already been killed as a result of the publication of this dossier and no harm should come to anybody related to this honest work."

Fusion GPS did not secure full access to Trump's tax returns, Simpson said: "They were Trump properties and I believe we may have reviewed some public information about estate taxes and things like that. We didn't have access to his tax returns."

Simpson said he only become aware of the infamous Trump Tower meeting between Donald Trump Jr. and a Russian lawyer when it was reported in the New York Times: "I was stunned."

Simpson had no "factual reason to believe" the Trump Tower meeting was a Russian attempt to make contact with the Trump campaign, but: "You know, as a sort of question of counterintelligence and just general investigation of Russian methods and that sort of thing, I think that's a reasonable interpretation."

Fusion GPS concluded that Trump "exaggerated" his properties' worth in legal filings — but that did not indicate or show connections to Russia: "Not that I recall."

Simpson said Trump's country clubs aren't making any money: "They were not profitable entities. I don't specifically recall. I just remember that these were not doing very well and that he'd sunk a lot of money into them and he hadn't gotten a lot of money back yet."

[Thomkal]

Steve Bannon steps down from Breitbart after Trump feud | TheHill

[bronconick]

At least something good to start 2018

[PilotMan]

Why are people wasting time talking about Oprah?

[molson]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

Why are people wasting time talking about Oprah?

We elected Donald Trump for president, everything's in play now.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Are we SURE that Stephen Miller didn't kill Mikey Tandino???

would you like a lemon tweest?

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by molson

We elected Donald Trump for president, everything's in play now.

Yup.

[henry296]

Originally Posted by bob

So what's going to happen to everyone's paychecks in 2018? Previously, we all had filled out W4 forms with allowances that at least somewhat matched exemptions.... but now that exemptions are gone, are W4s invalid?

Maybe not the best place to post it, but this thread has been a catch all for the tax law changes.

Just got my first paycheck and the Federal withholding rate is virtually unchanged so far. Based on the online calculators, I should benefit from the tax change. I did not change my W-4.