Werewolf LVII: Cathedral (GAME OVER!) - Page 16

path12 · 10-17-2007, 08:49 PM

I'm leaving the saldana/Lathum thing alone. If I'm then going to choose between Chief and Alan, I have no reason to vote Chief based on his action of putting a first vote on Anxiety. However, Alan put the quick second vote on him, and I believe he has tried to make far more effort in tying people together who have no real relation that I see, so I will

VOTE ALANT

path12 · 10-17-2007, 08:50 PM

And with that I'm out for dinner.

Neon_Chaos · 10-17-2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

so me changing your aganda equals throwing the whole day into a loop?

Aye.

saldana · 10-17-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

am I not doing a good job explaining this or are you trying to make me look suspicous.

If I order her to do it she then HAS to do it and we can't get screwed publicly.

of course we can't verify her, but we can't verify anyone else's alligence either. all things equal Oliegirl is just as trustworthy as anyone else so why not have her cast the single vote.

i understand perfectly what your plan is...i just think it is a bad plan.

if we agree that for instance, PurdueBrad, is going to cast the single vote for me tomorrow, and instead, he votes for you, we have learned something...but doing it your way, we learn nothing, because only one person ever has any activity that gives us information.

oliegirl · 10-17-2007, 08:51 PM

Is BK sticking with a 10 pm deadline even though he won't be around, or is deadline just going to be whenever he gets back?

Lathum · 10-17-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Aye.

self rightous ass

Abe Sargent · 10-17-2007, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by oliegirl

Is BK sticking with a 10 pm deadline even though he won't be around, or is deadline just going to be whenever he gets back?

I woul dbeleive so (its int eh thread title)

saldana · 10-17-2007, 08:52 PM

10pm deadline, even though bk isnt here

PurdueBrad · 10-17-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

if we agree that for instance, PurdueBrad, is going to cast the single vote for me tomorrow, and instead, he votes for you, we have learned something...but doing it your way, we learn nothing, because only one person ever has any activity that gives us information.

That PurdueBrad is always stirring the pot (or so says my wife).

Mr. Wednesday · 10-17-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by oliegirl

Is BK sticking with a 10 pm deadline even though he won't be around, or is deadline just going to be whenever he gets back?

I'd assume 10 pm by the timestamps. That's how it usually goes. Then we get a period where we're in limbo, with the results set in stone but not actually executed yet.

PurdueBrad · 10-17-2007, 08:54 PM

Of course, if she called me PurdueBrad all the time, that would be awkward. Or if she ever called me that for that matter!

saldana · 10-17-2007, 08:54 PM

vote Chief Rum
vote Chief Rum

oliegirl · 10-17-2007, 08:55 PM

OK, then I'm out for the night...will catch up in the morning

Neon_Chaos · 10-17-2007, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

self rightous ass

Again, what is this fascination with beasts of burden?

We are at a stalemate about our view of things then? It seems our votes matter not, anyway. There will be tomorrow to argue all day long, Ser.

Abe Sargent · 10-17-2007, 08:56 PM

anyone else with a late breaking vote?

Lathum · 10-17-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

i am still waiting for you to explain what we gain from having you order oliegirl to vote instead of all of us deciding on someone to do it voluntarily.

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Originally Posted by saldana

i understand perfectly what your plan is...i just think it is a bad plan.

so let me get this straight.

You understand my plan perfectly, yet you are waiting for me to explain it?

Mr. Wednesday · 10-17-2007, 08:57 PM

7 - 4 then in favor of CR.

I think my final action is best turned to work. We may have blown a chance at finishing the cathedral today.

WORK ON ARTWORK (2nd action)

saldana · 10-17-2007, 08:57 PM

i just wanted to make sure there were not any late shenanigans with only a one vote margin...i thought about going with alan, but there is always tomorrow.

Abe Sargent · 10-17-2007, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

i just wanted to make sure there were not any late shenanigans with only a one vote margin...i thought about going with alan, but there is always tomorrow.

well, that's certianly true.

Mr. Wednesday · 10-17-2007, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

so let me get this straight.

You understand my plan perfectly, yet you are waiting for me to explain it?

He understands what it is, just not why you wanted to do it.

saldana · 10-17-2007, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

so let me get this straight.

You understand my plan perfectly, yet you are waiting for me to explain it?

i thought, perhaps, you had some perspective that i was missing that added value that no one else could see....in case you didnt notice...a number of other people thought your plan was lousy too.

Lathum · 10-17-2007, 08:59 PM

barkeep said he was going to be late for the deadline

Lathum · 10-17-2007, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

i thought, perhaps, you had some perspective that i was missing that added value that no one else could see....in case you didnt notice...a number of other people thought your plan was lousy too.

not true

Abe Sargent · 10-17-2007, 09:00 PM

Well, that looks like it. I have 10 on my cumpter screen.

saldana · 10-17-2007, 09:00 PM

timestamp

PurdueBrad · 10-17-2007, 09:03 PM

I'm out for the night. A bit disappointed if we allowed ourselves to get caught up in lynching when we could've forced the action with the cathedral. If I read it correctly, we could've finished tonight, had the wolves sabotaged it, we could've re-finished it tomorrow, and then the wolves couldn't attack it as they are limited to the same action two nights in a row, not a third straight. Had we forced that, then we should've been set up for a pretty solid victory the next day but maybe I'm wrong.

st.cronin · 10-17-2007, 09:05 PM

Update for BK:

Caprentry (5) – Purdue (561), Purdue (581), path (585), Pass (606), Pass (607)
Roof (1) – Lathum (562)
Artwork (4)– Anxiety (589), Mr. W (663), st.cronin (674), Schmidty (675), Mr. W (767)

Chief Rum – 7 - Alan (610), Alan (610), st.cronin (674), oliegirl (732), oliegirl (732) , saldana (763), saldana (763)
Alan T - 4 -Anxiety (668), Chief Rum (678), Chief Rum (678), path12 (752)
Lathum - 2 - Neon Chaos (685), Neon Chaos (685)
Saldana – 1 - Lathum (652)

Actions Remaining:
Schmidty 1

Left to do:

Walls - Finished
Roof - 1 unit of work (1 done)
Windows - Finished
Artwork - 9 units of work (5 done)
Carpentry - 6 units of work (5 done)

st.cronin · 10-17-2007, 09:07 PM

Depending on how many demons and villagers we started with, we may well have been at endgame. I am assuming that for the demons victory condition, angels and bishops do not count.

Abe Sargent · 10-17-2007, 09:08 PM

alriight, Im' out for a wlittle ile. I roomate rnted Lewis Blacks comedy show and Im gonna go watch it with her.

PurdueBrad · 10-17-2007, 09:08 PM

Wow, we definitely could've finished the cathedral, circled the wagons, repaired any damage tomorrow and scored the likely victory the next night. We lost fourteen actions on votes and one on an unused action and had just five units of work to go...bad sign.

PurdueBrad · 10-17-2007, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Depending on how many demons and villagers we started with, we may well have been at endgame. I am assuming that for the demons victory condition, angels and bishops do not count.

I hadn't considered this, I assumed at least angels counted in our overall population compared to that of the wolves. If the angels are removed, crap, that does cut the numbers and means we could be in trouble of falling to that 1:1 ratio.

Lathum · 10-17-2007, 09:18 PM

I think Cronin's count is off.

I believe there was only 1 unit of work left to be done on the roof and I completed it

st.cronin · 10-17-2007, 09:22 PM

That's what my count actually shows - I put in parentheses what people posted they had done. So, we started needing 9 units of artwork, and people posted 5.

Lathum · 10-17-2007, 09:24 PM

ok, got it

Neon_Chaos · 10-17-2007, 09:33 PM

I sense that the Lord is close at hand.

Barkeep49 · 10-17-2007, 09:36 PM

Ok people seem happy with cronin's count. I have not double checked this as there were about 2 pages to go. I'm going to start my write-up and give people one last chance to object to his #s. The lynch vote doesn't seem close so if there's something off about the work on the Catheral I should sort that out when I go through and double check it.

Chief Rum · 10-17-2007, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

7 - 4 then in favor of CR.

I think my final action is best turned to work. We may have blown a chance at finishing the cathedral today.

WORK ON ARTWORK (2nd action)

You guys also blew a chance at lynching a demon today. Altogether banner day for the villagers.

cronin has to be a demon. He just can't be as awful a player as he looks right now.

Chief Rum · 10-17-2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Depending on how many demons and villagers we started with, we may well have been at endgame. I am assuming that for the demons victory condition, angels and bishops do not count.

Well, cathedral ain't done, and you sure as heck didn't hang a demon today, so unless you think the demons are about to win, you're not at endgame.

Barkeep49 · 10-17-2007, 09:45 PM

The poor innocent. Honoring his promised vow of silence, the novice was not as loud in his participation in the first couple of days and this proved to be his undoing. But he died true to himself and unscathed by any demonic force. In fact he was so holy that had the demons attacked him the angels would have recognized his holiness and made him one of their own.

Quote:

You are the Novice.

Life as a monk is hard, but the path to salvation is not easy. But eternal glory in the Kingdom of heaven is a small price to pay for mortal toil.

You have no powers or abilities.

Left to do:

Walls - Finished
Roof - Completed (May take no further damage)
Windows - Finished
Artwork - 4 units of work
Carpentry - 1 unit of work

Schmidty · 10-17-2007, 09:45 PM

No one's mentioned it, but I didn't use my second action. I apologize for that. I was making dinner (roasted chicken with stuffing and homemade mashed taters), and giving my daughter a bath at the same time, since my wife gets home at 8 pm my time, and asked me to do those things. I didn't want to get into trouble, and I lost track of the time.

Again, I apologize.

Lathum · 10-17-2007, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

my vote stays on Saldana. The only way it changes is if I have to try and save myself

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Lathum, I think you should reconsider where you have your vote.

just wanted to point this out in case I am night killed

Chief Rum · 10-17-2007, 09:59 PM

Shoot, I could have even been an angel. Wow, village is on a roll. Seer, potential angel...who next, Gabriel?

Oh well, hopefully next time some of you will make better choices. Good luck, village.

RendeR · 10-17-2007, 09:59 PM

*Cackles* Go Demons!

RAh RAh Sis BOOM Bah

GO Demons Go Demons

Hail evil Hail Evil

WHOOP WHOOP

ok I'm dead I know....

Barkeep49 · 10-17-2007, 10:03 PM

I made a change to the wording of CR's death post. I changed might to would. There is no randomness involved in the game at this point.

Barkeep49 · 10-17-2007, 10:05 PM

It was brought up. Angels do NOT count when talking about villager to demon ratio. I can't comment about the bishop due to the nature of his role. So it could go either way for him

.

Chief Rum · 10-17-2007, 10:07 PM

Wait, did you change angels to demons, too? Because now it reads like I am so holy, the demons would make me one of their own. Huh?

Just curious, not that it matters.

Barkeep49 · 10-17-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Wait, did you change angels to demons, too? Because now it reads like I am so holy, the demons would make me one of their own. Huh?

Just curious, not that it matters.

Yup I made that unclear. So the point is if the demons had night attacked CR he'd have become an angel.

Chief Rum · 10-17-2007, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Yup I made that unclear. So the point is if the demons had night attacked CR he'd have become an angel.

Weird, since wouldn't they then be akillin' me?

I'll bring it up again after the game.

Passacaglia · 10-17-2007, 11:55 PM

Blah, tough vote. I'm going to bed. Can we PLEASE get things moving with Lathum's plan again tomorrow? I'll catch up tomorrow morning, and think about who my vote to olie would be for.

oliegirl · 10-18-2007, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by saldana

i honestly wasnt trying to be defensive....i can prove i am a villager if i have to, or at least challenge anyone to prove i am not

Saldana, I'd really like you to prove this now, it would help us immensely in establishing a true CoT.

10-17-2007, 08:49 PM	#751
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I'm leaving the saldana/Lathum thing alone. If I'm then going to choose between Chief and Alan, I have no reason to vote Chief based on his action of putting a first vote on Anxiety. However, Alan put the quick second vote on him, and I believe he has tried to make far more effort in tying people together who have no real relation that I see, so I will VOTE ALANT __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

10-17-2007, 08:50 PM	#752
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	And with that I'm out for dinner. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

10-17-2007, 08:56 PM	#765
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	anyone else with a late breaking vote? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

10-17-2007, 08:57 PM	#767
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10-17-2007, 09:00 PM	#774
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Well, that looks like it. I have 10 on my cumpter screen. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

10-17-2007, 08:52 PM	#758
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	10pm deadline, even though bk isnt here

10-17-2007, 08:54 PM	#761
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Of course, if she called me PurdueBrad all the time, that would be awkward. Or if she ever called me that for that matter!

10-17-2007, 08:54 PM	#762
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	vote Chief Rum vote Chief Rum

10-17-2007, 08:57 PM	#768
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	i just wanted to make sure there were not any late shenanigans with only a one vote margin...i thought about going with alan, but there is always tomorrow.

10-17-2007, 08:59 PM	#772
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	barkeep said he was going to be late for the deadline

10-17-2007, 09:00 PM	#775
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	timestamp

10-17-2007, 09:03 PM	#776
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	I'm out for the night. A bit disappointed if we allowed ourselves to get caught up in lynching when we could've forced the action with the cathedral. If I read it correctly, we could've finished tonight, had the wolves sabotaged it, we could've re-finished it tomorrow, and then the wolves couldn't attack it as they are limited to the same action two nights in a row, not a third straight. Had we forced that, then we should've been set up for a pretty solid victory the next day but maybe I'm wrong.

10-17-2007, 09:05 PM	#777
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Update for BK: Caprentry (5) – Purdue (561), Purdue (581), path (585), Pass (606), Pass (607) Roof (1) – Lathum (562) Artwork (4)– Anxiety (589), Mr. W (663), st.cronin (674), Schmidty (675), Mr. W (767) Chief Rum – 7 - Alan (610), Alan (610), st.cronin (674), oliegirl (732), oliegirl (732) , saldana (763), saldana (763) Alan T - 4 -Anxiety (668), Chief Rum (678), Chief Rum (678), path12 (752) Lathum - 2 - Neon Chaos (685), Neon Chaos (685) Saldana – 1 - Lathum (652) Actions Remaining: Schmidty 1 Left to do: Walls - Finished Roof - 1 unit of work (1 done) Windows - Finished Artwork - 9 units of work (5 done) Carpentry - 6 units of work (5 done) __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-17-2007, 09:07 PM	#778
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Depending on how many demons and villagers we started with, we may well have been at endgame. I am assuming that for the demons victory condition, angels and bishops do not count. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-17-2007, 09:08 PM	#779
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	alriight, Im' out for a wlittle ile. I roomate rnted Lewis Blacks comedy show and Im gonna go watch it with her. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

10-17-2007, 09:08 PM	#780
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Wow, we definitely could've finished the cathedral, circled the wagons, repaired any damage tomorrow and scored the likely victory the next night. We lost fourteen actions on votes and one on an unused action and had just five units of work to go...bad sign.

10-17-2007, 09:18 PM	#782
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I think Cronin's count is off. I believe there was only 1 unit of work left to be done on the roof and I completed it

10-17-2007, 09:22 PM	#783
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	That's what my count actually shows - I put in parentheses what people posted they had done. So, we started needing 9 units of artwork, and people posted 5. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-17-2007, 09:24 PM	#784
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	ok, got it

10-17-2007, 09:33 PM	#785
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	I sense that the Lord is close at hand. __________________ Come and see.

10-17-2007, 09:36 PM	#786
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Ok people seem happy with cronin's count. I have not double checked this as there were about 2 pages to go. I'm going to start my write-up and give people one last chance to object to his #s. The lynch vote doesn't seem close so if there's something off about the work on the Catheral I should sort that out when I go through and double check it.

10-17-2007, 09:45 PM	#790
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	No one's mentioned it, but I didn't use my second action. I apologize for that. I was making dinner (roasted chicken with stuffing and homemade mashed taters), and giving my daughter a bath at the same time, since my wife gets home at 8 pm my time, and asked me to do those things. I didn't want to get into trouble, and I lost track of the time. Again, I apologize.

10-17-2007, 09:59 PM	#792
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Shoot, I could have even been an angel. Wow, village is on a roll. Seer, potential angel...who next, Gabriel? Oh well, hopefully next time some of you will make better choices. Good luck, village.

10-17-2007, 09:59 PM	#793
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Cackles Go Demons! RAh RAh Sis BOOM Bah GO Demons Go Demons Hail evil Hail Evil WHOOP WHOOP ok I'm dead I know.... __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

10-17-2007, 10:03 PM	#794
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I made a change to the wording of CR's death post. I changed might to would. There is no randomness involved in the game at this point. Last edited by Barkeep49 : 10-17-2007 at 10:04 PM.

10-17-2007, 10:05 PM	#795
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	It was brought up. Angels do NOT count when talking about villager to demon ratio. I can't comment about the bishop due to the nature of his role. So it could go either way for him . Last edited by Barkeep49 : 10-17-2007 at 10:06 PM.

10-17-2007, 10:07 PM	#796
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Wait, did you change angels to demons, too? Because now it reads like I am so holy, the demons would make me one of their own. Huh? Just curious, not that it matters.

10-17-2007, 11:55 PM	#799
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Blah, tough vote. I'm going to bed. Can we PLEASE get things moving with Lathum's plan again tomorrow? I'll catch up tomorrow morning, and think about who my vote to olie would be for.

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