2009 NFL Draft Thread(Stafford goes #1 to the Lions) - Page 16

Thomkal · 04-25-2009, 06:46 PM

I like Lauranitis a lot, not liking he went to an NFC west rival

Balldog · 04-25-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

worried about Wells injury history and how he's reacted to them in his college career if he goes to the Cards, but that looks like the pick since he was on the phone. Could be a steal if he can just stay healthy

I don't get the concern on how he has reacted to injuries, he played in all but 3 games despite being injured from the moment he stepped on campus. I understand the concern about injury history but I don't get the toughness complaints. Cards got a steal.

DeToxRox · 04-25-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

I'm sorry, but I think Bullocks is fine now, and is also a stud.

Alexander is a question mark though. I think they could have filled a deeper hole here.

Bullocks played last year admirably but he was not the same player he showed before he tore up his leg. We need someone to break on balls. Bullocks best attribute is playing the run and that just isn't going to cut it. He was burnt a lot in coverage.

Eaglesfan27 · 04-25-2009, 06:50 PM

The Broncos are insane. That 1 could be in the top 10 next year with their roster minus Cutler.

Passacaglia · 04-25-2009, 06:50 PM

Big trade here.

Racer · 04-25-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Bullocks played last year admirably but he was not the same player he showed before he tore up his leg. We need someone to break on balls. Bullocks best attribute is playing the run and that just isn't going to cut it. He was burnt a lot in coverage.

I've also read that Delmas is a hard-hitter on defense (like guys such as Troy Polamalu and Bob Sanders). If that is true, then it'll add a lot of energy to Detroit's defense next season. I really like the pick for the Lions. I think he can be a top 5 safety in this league based on what I've read about him. If the Colts didn't already have two good safeties in addition to Bob Sanders, I would have been happy if the Colts had taken him.

Lathum · 04-25-2009, 06:51 PM

wow. Seahawks get the Broncos #1 next year

DeToxRox · 04-25-2009, 06:51 PM

A 2010 first to Seattle?

Wow. Fleeced.

Sorry Broncos fans.

Izulde · 04-25-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

The Broncos are insane. That 1 could be in the top 10 next year with their roster minus Cutler.

+1

Pyser · 04-25-2009, 06:51 PM

denvers going crazy. bad trade

mauchow · 04-25-2009, 06:51 PM

A first for a second...

Crapshoot · 04-25-2009, 06:51 PM

Did they get Denver's no 1, or Chicago's no 1 next year? That's the Q.

Solecismic · 04-25-2009, 06:52 PM

Might be the worst move of the entire draft. Not that Smith isn't a good player worthy of being picked about now, but that you might easily be giving up a #12-15 pick next year for him.

Racer · 04-25-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

The Broncos are insane. That 1 could be in the top 10 next year with their roster minus Cutler.

Depends on the parameters. It could be which ever pick is worse (or the Bears 1st next year). If it's the Broncos own pick though, then it's extremely dumb.

Passacaglia · 04-25-2009, 06:53 PM

hahaha boomer no one can follow what you mean right now

Pyser · 04-25-2009, 06:54 PM

it does help that they had 2 1's next year though. still odd trade overall

Crapshoot · 04-25-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

Might be the worst move of the entire draft. Not that Smith isn't a good player worthy of being picked about now, but that you might easily be giving up a #12-15 pick next year for him.

Again, we'll see which pick they gave up. Chicago's pick is likely to be lower than that.

Swaggs · 04-25-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Did they get Denver's no 1, or Chicago's no 1 next year? That's the Q.

I wonder if it could be designated as the lower of the two?

Thomkal · 04-25-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Balldog

I don't get the concern on how he has reacted to injuries, he played in all but 3 games despite being injured from the moment he stepped on campus. I understand the concern about injury history but I don't get the toughness complaints. Cards got a steal.

well if you saw the clips of him as he was being drafted they showed him running out of bounds rather than hitting the defender and trying to get more yards over concern for being injured. I certainly hope they got a steal though

Schmidty · 04-25-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer

I've also read that Delmas is a hard-hitter on defense (like guys such as Troy Polamalu and Bob Sanders). If that is true, then it'll add a lot of energy to Detroit's defense next season. I really like the pick for the Lions. I think he can be a top 5 safety in this league based on what I've read about him. If the Colts didn't already have two good safeties in addition to Bob Sanders, I would have been happy if the Colts had taken him.

Well, hopefully he'll turn out to be a Benny Blades type, otherwise, I think this is a lame pick.

Crapshoot · 04-25-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I wonder if it could be designated as the lower of the two?

That's what I'm wondering - I think Seattle would be fine with that, but I don't know NFL rules on this.

Abe Sargent · 04-25-2009, 06:56 PM

Abe's basic draft rule - Never trade picks from future years in a round higher than the current one.

Crapshoot · 04-25-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Abe's basic draft rule - Never trade picks from future years in a round higher than the current one.

Wonderful rule, except there's a time value of draft picks as well. Its happened again and again; I don't always agree, but you can understand why.

Izulde · 04-25-2009, 06:58 PM

and the Bengals finally take Rey

DeToxRox · 04-25-2009, 07:00 PM

Mauluaga with character concerns, goes to Cinncy. Of course.

Swaggs · 04-25-2009, 07:00 PM

As an Steelers' fan, I've got to say that (for the first time in quite awhile) it looks like the rest of the division has made pretty wise selections. Ravens are usually pretty solid, but no blunders from the Bungles or the Brownies is a pretty big shock. Bengals are tearing up, IMO.

I don't like it one bit.

Crapshoot · 04-25-2009, 07:02 PM

Whaa Jags?

Solecismic · 04-25-2009, 07:03 PM

I wonder if Oakland will take that overrated pass-rush-only guy who can't get to the quarterback, but tests well.

DeToxRox · 04-25-2009, 07:04 PM

Jags just rebuilt their OL.

Swaggs · 04-25-2009, 07:04 PM

I have a sneaking suspicion that the Pats are going to grab Pat White with one of their 75 second round picks.

It would be a bummer if he goes to a team that I hate, like the Ravens or Pats.

Abe Sargent · 04-25-2009, 07:05 PM

Yp, Two OT in two picks

Izulde · 04-25-2009, 07:05 PM

Isn't Britton a 1st round talent?

Solecismic · 04-25-2009, 07:06 PM

Pats might like Sintim in the 34.

Swaggs · 04-25-2009, 07:07 PM

Connor Barwin = Adam Sandler?

JAG · 04-25-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Can anyone explain why the Browns made the last 2 trades? It's not as if 6th round picks are worth much if anything.

SI

Terrell Davis and Tom Brady would like a word with you.

(and yeah, I know you can pull out hundreds of others to have a word with me)

In all seriousness though, for a team as bad as Cleveland, it wouldn't be a shock if there was a 6th rounder good enough to play for them if they pick right, or it could be ammo to move up in another round since it seems like they had a specific player in mind for their first rounder.

Thomkal · 04-25-2009, 07:10 PM

weird why would patriots trade up when they had the next pick

Abe Sargent · 04-25-2009, 07:11 PM

Because they wanted someone they thought Oakland might take?

DeToxRox · 04-25-2009, 07:12 PM

NE is crafty. Great pick in Brace for the middle a 3-4.

DeToxRox · 04-25-2009, 07:13 PM

Butler is a stud too for where they got him.

Solecismic · 04-25-2009, 07:13 PM

Very surprised he lasted so long. Nice to see the Pats getting some young bodies in on defense.

Izulde · 04-25-2009, 07:15 PM

Much as I hate admitting it, great value picks for the Patriots.

DaddyTorgo · 04-25-2009, 07:15 PM

AWESOME!!!

Pick #40 - Patriots select Ron Brace (DT, Boston College)

Love the pick as an alum, as a football fan, and as a MA resident (Brace is a local kid, born in Springfield, went to HS in Worcester, MA)

General Mike · 04-25-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

but no blunders from the Bungles is a pretty big shock.

I'm not as sold on Andre Smith as you are, I suppose. I wouldn't have taken him.

Solecismic · 04-25-2009, 07:19 PM

Does anyone know why Everette Brown keeps getting downgraded? PFW dropped him ten spots suddenly in the last week or so. And he's still falling. Did he test positively for child pron or something?

DeToxRox · 04-25-2009, 07:20 PM

Sean Smith needs to go soon. Kid will be a stud.

Karlifornia · 04-25-2009, 07:20 PM

Patrick Chung is a pretty good player. Often looked like the best guy on the field.

DaddyTorgo · 04-25-2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

Patrick Chung is a pretty good player. Often looked like the best guy on the field.

never had heard of him - interesting though

Izulde · 04-25-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

Does anyone know why Everette Brown keeps getting downgraded? PFW dropped him ten spots suddenly in the last week or so. And he's still falling. Did he test positively for child pron or something?

And there he goes.

Izulde · 04-25-2009, 07:25 PM

Please draft a good WR Miami.

...If there's even any left.

DeToxRox · 04-25-2009, 07:25 PM

Gmen NEED to take Moore. Moore and Phillips. Filth.

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04-25-2009, 06:50 PM	#754
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04-25-2009, 06:56 PM	#772
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04-25-2009, 06:58 PM	#774
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04-25-2009, 07:00 PM	#776
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	As an Steelers' fan, I've got to say that (for the first time in quite awhile) it looks like the rest of the division has made pretty wise selections. Ravens are usually pretty solid, but no blunders from the Bungles or the Brownies is a pretty big shock. Bengals are tearing up, IMO. I don't like it one bit. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

04-25-2009, 06:46 PM	#751
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	I like Lauranitis a lot, not liking he went to an NFC west rival

04-25-2009, 06:50 PM	#755
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Big trade here.

04-25-2009, 06:51 PM	#757
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	wow. Seahawks get the Broncos #1 next year

04-25-2009, 06:51 PM	#758
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	A 2010 first to Seattle? Wow. Fleeced. Sorry Broncos fans.

04-25-2009, 06:51 PM	#760
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	denvers going crazy. bad trade

04-25-2009, 06:51 PM	#761
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	A first for a second...

04-25-2009, 06:51 PM	#762
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Did they get Denver's no 1, or Chicago's no 1 next year? That's the Q.

04-25-2009, 06:52 PM	#763
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	Might be the worst move of the entire draft. Not that Smith isn't a good player worthy of being picked about now, but that you might easily be giving up a #12-15 pick next year for him.

04-25-2009, 06:53 PM	#765
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	hahaha boomer no one can follow what you mean right now

04-25-2009, 06:54 PM	#766
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	it does help that they had 2 1's next year though. still odd trade overall

04-25-2009, 07:00 PM	#775
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Mauluaga with character concerns, goes to Cinncy. Of course.

04-25-2009, 07:02 PM	#777
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Whaa Jags?

04-25-2009, 07:03 PM	#778
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	I wonder if Oakland will take that overrated pass-rush-only guy who can't get to the quarterback, but tests well.

04-25-2009, 07:04 PM	#779
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Jags just rebuilt their OL.

04-25-2009, 07:04 PM	#780
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I have a sneaking suspicion that the Pats are going to grab Pat White with one of their 75 second round picks. It would be a bummer if he goes to a team that I hate, like the Ravens or Pats. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

04-25-2009, 07:05 PM	#781
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Yp, Two OT in two picks __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-25-2009, 07:05 PM	#782
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Isn't Britton a 1st round talent? __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

04-25-2009, 07:06 PM	#783
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	Pats might like Sintim in the 34.

04-25-2009, 07:07 PM	#784
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Connor Barwin = Adam Sandler? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

04-25-2009, 07:10 PM	#786
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	weird why would patriots trade up when they had the next pick

04-25-2009, 07:11 PM	#787
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Because they wanted someone they thought Oakland might take? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-25-2009, 07:12 PM	#788
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	NE is crafty. Great pick in Brace for the middle a 3-4.

04-25-2009, 07:13 PM	#789
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Butler is a stud too for where they got him.

04-25-2009, 07:13 PM	#790
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	Very surprised he lasted so long. Nice to see the Pats getting some young bodies in on defense.

04-25-2009, 07:15 PM	#791
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Much as I hate admitting it, great value picks for the Patriots. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

04-25-2009, 07:15 PM	#792
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	AWESOME!!! Pick #40 - Patriots select Ron Brace (DT, Boston College) Love the pick as an alum, as a football fan, and as a MA resident (Brace is a local kid, born in Springfield, went to HS in Worcester, MA) __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

04-25-2009, 07:19 PM	#794
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	Does anyone know why Everette Brown keeps getting downgraded? PFW dropped him ten spots suddenly in the last week or so. And he's still falling. Did he test positively for child pron or something?

04-25-2009, 07:20 PM	#795
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Sean Smith needs to go soon. Kid will be a stud.

04-25-2009, 07:20 PM	#796
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Patrick Chung is a pretty good player. Often looked like the best guy on the field. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

04-25-2009, 07:25 PM	#799
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Please draft a good WR Miami. ...If there's even any left. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)