2010 NCAA Tournament (and NIT) Thread - Page 16

panerd · 03-19-2010, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

You aren't crediting the Mizzou genius enough.

Outside of a couple of guys who have been KU fans ever since I was on this board and Swaggs who is a WV fan the rest of you guys seem to have a lot of jealosy about this team that is 4-1 in the NCAA the past two seasons. Anderson got it done at UAB and as an assistant at Arkansas. Sorry that we aren't falling apart for you.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 03-19-2010, 05:01 PM

Personally speaking, I couldn't give two shits about Mizzou. I was rooting for them, had them in my bracket.

cartman · 03-19-2010, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Coach Anderson made the correct decision to let them shoot from outside and it paid off. They were shooting 43% from inside the arc because Mizzou was focusing on interior defense, not because they were missing open shots inside.

You do realize that Clemson averaged 45% from the field this season?

SportsDino · 03-19-2010, 05:03 PM

Dola, ya any team needs to score to win the game, that goes without a doubt. I've seen runs from the Spartans where they cause turnover after turnover, or bad shots, incredible defense... and then go down the court to miss a gosh durn layup of all things.

That is usually what tears apart State, we lose our shooting and then it feeds back into the defense starting to get sloppy (usually over aggressive leading to easy fouls or over-attacking and the guy gets past to an open shot).

Still, you stick with the system and adjust to solve the problem. In the case of this particular game, I don't think the problem was their D-scheme... they just needed to clean up their shooting and they came out at half time and did it, props to the coach.

panerd · 03-19-2010, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

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SI

I would say big 12 but Texas let us down and I can never really get too much enthusiam for the other Texas schools. Baylor has had Mizzou's number the last couple of seasons (excluding last year) but I just keep looking back at the murder for hire team and not taking them seriously.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 03-19-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by panerd

Not really arguing. I just watch Mizzou with a lot of casual fans this time of year who always get real upset when we aren't winning in the first half and I just tell them to relax and be patient. (and outside of the Nebraska debacle I am usually proven correct) I don't really have a whole lot of difference in opinion with you on this I don't think. Just wasn't that worried about their 3-point shooting as that didn't seem to be one of their stengths the whole year.

(OK I was a little concerned.

)

I went back and watched the first half again out of curiosity. After watching it, I was even more sure that Clemson was lucky they weren't down by more. The assessment that MU was leaving Clemson wide open outside didn't really pan out. Clemson only had 3 uncontested long-range shots in that first half. The rest were contested.

In addition, Marcus Denmon (who shot over 40% from long range during conference play) missed 4 wide open three pointers in the first half alone. MU can usually count on him to make at least half of those.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 03-19-2010, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

You do realize that Clemson averaged 45% from the field this season?

Yes. They were supposed to have a significant advantage on MU inside. That should translate to an above average shooting percentage inside, but MU's bigs really did a helluva job on Booker/Booker/Grant.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 03-19-2010, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by panerd

Baylor has had Mizzou's number the last couple of seasons (excluding last year) but I just keep looking back at the murder for hire team and not taking them seriously.

Lathum · 03-19-2010, 05:33 PM

Is there any worse expression in sports than "needs a blow"

Swaggs · 03-19-2010, 05:47 PM

The St. John's job opened up w/ Norm Roberts getting the axe. A lot of potential for a good program there. Hopefully, they can find someone to make them respectable again (w/o cheating).

Swaggs · 03-19-2010, 05:49 PM

Have they announced what time WVU/Mizzou begins on Sunday? I can't seem to find it, but assume it will be one of the early games.

panerd · 03-19-2010, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Have they announced what time WVU/Mizzou begins on Sunday? I can't seem to find it, but assume it will be one of the early games.

My guess is they will wait until after all the games are over tonight so they can see where to put Syracuse, Duke, and the other ratings darlings. Mizzou/WVU seems like it should be a great game but I don't know that it will translate into ratings.

panerd · 03-19-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

I can remember being in Vegas during the season after the murder thinking Mizzou would destroy them. Unfortunatley they covered the spread and nobody at the Imperial Palace understood why I cared so much about Mizzou/Baylor.

Ah, the Dave Bliss era...

Swaggs · 03-19-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by panerd

My guess is they will wait until after all the games are over tonight so they can see where to put Syracuse, Duke, and the other ratings darlings. Mizzou/WVU seems like it should be a great game but I don't know that it will translate into ratings.

Heh... silly me. I wasn't thinking about ratings, which I'm sure is the driving factor. I was thinking they would want to give teams as close to 48-hours of recovery before starting them.

timmynausea · 03-19-2010, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Have they announced what time WVU/Mizzou begins on Sunday? I can't seem to find it, but assume it will be one of the early games.

Noon per one of the WVU boards, and they claimed that was from yahoo, but I looked around and couldn't confirm it.

panerd · 03-19-2010, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by timmynausea

Noon per one of the WVU boards, and they claimed that was from yahoo, but I looked around and couldn't confirm it.

Somebody on a Mizzou board said the same thing but I think they had all the games listed at noon.

the_meanstrosity · 03-19-2010, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

I guess Cornell is for real. For all the hype on them coming into the tournament, I thought they might struggle.

Cornell is definitely a good team. I saw them play Kansas tight earlier this season. They have a talented big man, good guard play, and last but certainly not least Wittman. In my bracket I have them beating Wisconsin in the next round.

whomario · 03-19-2010, 06:16 PM

Go Zags ! Go Elias !

Lathum · 03-19-2010, 06:16 PM

Jesus Florida State has some long bodies

jbergey22 · 03-19-2010, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Jesus Florida State has some long bodies

#1 in the nation in defensive efficiency. #119 on offensive efficiency.

mauchow · 03-19-2010, 06:25 PM

Gonzaga making the buckets early.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 03-19-2010, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by panerd

Somebody on a Mizzou board said the same thing but I think they had all the games listed at noon.

Mizzou SID said game times won't be set until after all games are completed later tonight.

JPhillips · 03-19-2010, 06:30 PM

Duke only up by 2.

mauchow · 03-19-2010, 06:31 PM

Duke on a 4-0 run.

JPhillips · 03-19-2010, 06:32 PM

Now a three point game. Could this be the first 16-1 upset?

mauchow · 03-19-2010, 06:36 PM

The Zags showing early and often that they're better than their seeding. They've got the talent for sure. They're up 15 already. FSU having trouble scoring.

whomario · 03-19-2010, 06:37 PM

maybe it was a foul by rule on Alabi, but those type of situations should never be called against the defender imo, the offensive player can´t just barrel into a beckpadelling defender imo ...

Harris jumper really improved since he played with the national team, totally different release, too. Nice work Gonzaga, thanks for that

Lathum · 03-19-2010, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

The Zags showing early and often that they're better than their seeding. They've got the talent for sure. They're up 15 already. FSU having trouble scoring.

Yep.

I was really tempted to go with them beating Syracuse but couldn't pull the trigger.

jbergey22 · 03-19-2010, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

The Zags showing early and often that they're better than their seeding. They've got the talent for sure. They're up 15 already. FSU having trouble scoring.

The seeding is their own doing this year. A lot of times I feel they get screwed with the seeding but this year I feel they are right where they belong.

timmynausea · 03-19-2010, 06:43 PM

Just noticed that Washington is a slight favorite (-1.5) over New Mexico tomorrow.

jbergey22 · 03-19-2010, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by timmynausea

Just noticed that Washington is a slight favorite (-1.5) over New Mexico tomorrow.

They should have Vegas do the brackets. They would do a much better job. New Mexico has been one of the luckiest teams all year so this doesnt surprise me a whole lot. Its a fairly good sign for Washington. I cant see Vegas making them a fav unless they were very sure they would win.

Lathum · 03-19-2010, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

The seeding is their own doing this year. A lot of times I feel they get screwed with the seeding but this year I feel they are right where they belong.

I disagree.

They are where they are because they lost their conference final game, they played one of the toughest OOC schedules in the country.

mauchow · 03-19-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

The seeding is their own doing this year. A lot of times I feel they get screwed with the seeding but this year I feel they are right where they belong.

I'm not saying I disagree with the seedings, I'm just saying they're better than that. They should play Syracuse very well on Sunday, assuming they beat FSU; FSU's defense is a lot better than they've shown so far this game so this is far from over if they can start to click a little bit more on offense.

I'm feeling a lot better now after that effort from the Badgers. That was a pretty bad game all around from the Badgers... 4 turnovers though, crazy.

NMSU draining deep three balls right now.. WOO!

jbergey22 · 03-19-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I disagree.

They are where they are because they lost their conference final game, they played one of the toughest OOC schedules in the country.

So we actually agree. In that conference you need to win it. The losses to San Fran and L-M didnt help matters for them.

jbergey22 · 03-19-2010, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

I'm not saying I disagree with the seedings, I'm just saying they're better than that. They should play Syracuse very well on Sunday, assuming they beat FSU; FSU's defense is a lot better than they've shown so far this game so this is far from over if they can start to click a little bit more on offense.

I'm feeling a lot better now after that effort from the Badgers. That was a pretty bad game all around from the Badgers... 4 turnovers though, crazy.

NMSU draining deep three balls right now.. WOO!

They have a lot of talent I wouldnt disagree with you there. Ive just seem them look unstoppable at times and I seen them in the WCC tourny play like complete shit. Bouldin played like a complete joke that whole tourny. IMO they are the most inconsistent team in college hoops this year. I guess it depends on which team shows up.

Lathum · 03-19-2010, 06:59 PM

I think it is stupid that 1 loss drops you 2-3 seeds. Same thing happened to UTEP

jbergey22 · 03-19-2010, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I think it is stupid that 1 loss drops you 2-3 seeds. Same thing happened to UTEP

Im not sure if you believe in computer rankings or not but the computers were not impressed by the Zags this year. Pomeroy has them #56 and Sagarin has them 36th. I dont know that they were ever a 4-5 seed like people were thinking.

mauchow · 03-19-2010, 07:06 PM

Fairing to be a shitty night of endings tonight...

FSU/Zags.... bleh

Duke.. yah right

MSU... so far not so good for NMSU

GT/OSU - i honestly don't know much about these guys at all..... maybe it will be an exciting finish.. the only one at this rate.

mauchow · 03-19-2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Fairing to be a shitty night of endings tonight...

FSU/Zags.... bleh

Duke.. yah right

MSU... so far not so good for NMSU

GT/OSU - i honestly don't know much about these guys at all..... maybe it will be an exciting finish.. the only one at this rate.

Not sure I'll be paying TOO close attention to the late games tonight as they may all be snoozers, too. Louisville/Cal seems like the only interesting matchup. I'll keep an ear open to see if Houston sticks around.

jbergey22 · 03-19-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Not sure I'll be paying TOO close attention to the late games tonight as they may all be snoozers, too. Louisville/Cal seems like the only interesting matchup. I'll keep an ear open to see if Houston sticks around.

Vermont shocked Syracuse a few years ago. I wouldnt expect this game to be close but Vermont is probably the best of the #16 seeds.

mauchow · 03-19-2010, 07:17 PM

And NMSU's guard, Young who said "Who's that" in response to a question about State's Kahlin Lucas is now on the bench with 2 points and three fouls. Ouch.

mauchow · 03-19-2010, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Vermont shocked Syracuse a few years ago. I wouldnt expect this game to be close but Vermont is probably the best of the #16 seeds.

Which is like saying which 400 lb fatty would you rather fuck? I'm still not picking any of them over the Alba's of the world.

ColtCrazy · 03-19-2010, 07:19 PM

Love the tourney so far. Wore my Ohio U shirt to work today. G'Town was the only Sweet Sixteen I've lost, but I didn't care. Loved seeing the upset.

With no IU to root for, Butler is my team for the tourney I think.

jbergey22 · 03-19-2010, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Which is like saying which 400 lb fatty would you rather fuck? I'm still not picking any of them over the Alba's of the world.

LOL

Well I wasnt exactly saying to pick Vermont over Syracuse I was simply saying it could be more interesting than it may look.

mauchow · 03-19-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

LOL

Well I wasnt exactly saying to pick Vermont over Syracuse I was simply saying it could be more interesting than it make look.

One can only hope! I'd love to see a tight game there.

mauchow · 03-19-2010, 07:54 PM

Slowly but surely FSU getting back into the game.

timmynausea · 03-19-2010, 08:05 PM

New Mexico State cuts it to 2.

mauchow · 03-19-2010, 08:06 PM

NMSU goes nuts to start the second half.

sterlingice · 03-19-2010, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Fairing to be a shitty night of endings tonight...

FSU/Zags.... bleh

Duke.. yah right

MSU... so far not so good for NMSU

GT/OSU - i honestly don't know much about these guys at all..... maybe it will be an exciting finish.. the only one at this rate.

Looks like it's actually going to be a good set of closings, Duke aside

SI

Galaril · 03-19-2010, 08:23 PM

I am looking forward to the Houston Maryland game as a possible upset and that was even before the tourneyu started but Maryland is also pretty hot.

03-19-2010, 05:01 PM	#752
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Personally speaking, I couldn't give two shits about Mizzou. I was rooting for them, had them in my bracket. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

03-19-2010, 05:47 PM	#760
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	The St. John's job opened up w/ Norm Roberts getting the axe. A lot of potential for a good program there. Hopefully, they can find someone to make them respectable again (w/o cheating). __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

03-19-2010, 05:49 PM	#761
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Have they announced what time WVU/Mizzou begins on Sunday? I can't seem to find it, but assume it will be one of the early games. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

03-19-2010, 06:30 PM	#773
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Duke only up by 2. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

03-19-2010, 06:32 PM	#775
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Now a three point game. Could this be the first 16-1 upset? __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

03-19-2010, 05:03 PM	#754
SportsDino College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2001	Dola, ya any team needs to score to win the game, that goes without a doubt. I've seen runs from the Spartans where they cause turnover after turnover, or bad shots, incredible defense... and then go down the court to miss a gosh durn layup of all things. That is usually what tears apart State, we lose our shooting and then it feeds back into the defense starting to get sloppy (usually over aggressive leading to easy fouls or over-attacking and the guy gets past to an open shot). Still, you stick with the system and adjust to solve the problem. In the case of this particular game, I don't think the problem was their D-scheme... they just needed to clean up their shooting and they came out at half time and did it, props to the coach.

03-19-2010, 05:33 PM	#759
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Is there any worse expression in sports than "needs a blow"

03-19-2010, 06:16 PM	#768
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	Go Zags ! Go Elias !

03-19-2010, 06:16 PM	#769
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Jesus Florida State has some long bodies

03-19-2010, 06:25 PM	#771
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Gonzaga making the buckets early.

03-19-2010, 06:31 PM	#774
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Duke on a 4-0 run.

03-19-2010, 06:36 PM	#776
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	The Zags showing early and often that they're better than their seeding. They've got the talent for sure. They're up 15 already. FSU having trouble scoring.

03-19-2010, 06:37 PM	#777
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	maybe it was a foul by rule on Alabi, but those type of situations should never be called against the defender imo, the offensive player can´t just barrel into a beckpadelling defender imo ... Harris jumper really improved since he played with the national team, totally different release, too. Nice work Gonzaga, thanks for that Last edited by whomario : 03-19-2010 at 06:39 PM.

03-19-2010, 06:43 PM	#780
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	Just noticed that Washington is a slight favorite (-1.5) over New Mexico tomorrow.

03-19-2010, 06:59 PM	#786
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I think it is stupid that 1 loss drops you 2-3 seeds. Same thing happened to UTEP

03-19-2010, 07:06 PM	#788
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Fairing to be a shitty night of endings tonight... FSU/Zags.... bleh Duke.. yah right MSU... so far not so good for NMSU GT/OSU - i honestly don't know much about these guys at all..... maybe it will be an exciting finish.. the only one at this rate.

03-19-2010, 07:17 PM	#791
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	And NMSU's guard, Young who said "Who's that" in response to a question about State's Kahlin Lucas is now on the bench with 2 points and three fouls. Ouch. Last edited by mauchow : 03-19-2010 at 07:19 PM.

03-19-2010, 07:19 PM	#793
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	Love the tourney so far. Wore my Ohio U shirt to work today. G'Town was the only Sweet Sixteen I've lost, but I didn't care. Loved seeing the upset. With no IU to root for, Butler is my team for the tourney I think. __________________ The Field Generals and Statis Pro Basketball Super League

03-19-2010, 07:54 PM	#796
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Slowly but surely FSU getting back into the game.

03-19-2010, 08:05 PM	#797
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	New Mexico State cuts it to 2.

03-19-2010, 08:06 PM	#798
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	NMSU goes nuts to start the second half.

03-19-2010, 08:23 PM	#800
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	I am looking forward to the Houston Maryland game as a possible upset and that was even before the tourneyu started but Maryland is also pretty hot.

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