NFL Draft thread 2012

[Carman Bulldog]

I really love the value of the Hill pick for the Jets. Unfortunately I don't think they'll be able to maximize his skills with their lack of a strong armed QB and it really lessens his value. At the end of the day, I think they should have went elsewhere with that pick because of this.

[BillJasper]

I think the Niners hit a home run with James.

[Izulde]

LOL! 3rd round Punter named Anger. Awesome.

[Racer]

Originally Posted by Racer

Hmm, wouldn't mind Dwayne Allen slipping to the Colts. The Patriots showed two TEs offenses can be very effective and Allen's excellence in blocking and short route ability might mesh well with Fleener's explosiveness and big play ability.

Bam. Allen turns out to be their pick. Love it.

[Lathum]

wow, did Jacksonville really just take a punter in the third round?

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

I think the Niners hit a home run with James.

Me too.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Manning of old is still old. He's one injury away from being done.

How many young QB's have actually developed behind Manning? How many young QB's has Mike McCoy developed.

They flushed a second round pick.

[Julio Riddols]

Rich Eisen just about ruined my computer right now.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Blackadar

Gotta get a DT soon. This may be a "1,000 pounds of beef in the first 3 rounds" draft for the Steelers.

Hopefully we don't go broke from having to buy 2 southwest tickets to fly these guys in.

This is like the Timmons/ Woodley draft where you get 2 first round picks.

[Swaggs]

Not sure about Indy going back to back with TEs.

Nice value on both, but coming off the season they had last season, they have more pressing needs than that 2nd TE.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

I think Jonathan Quinn balances that out.

And there are probably 3-5 worse names on the Bear list than Quinn.

[Izulde]

I love the chick they had announce the Redskins' third round pick.

[bhlloy]

What worse in third? Punter or trading up to take receiver with seventh round grade?

And yeah Eisen has been great. Even more so for how much he annoys Mayock at times

[hoopsguy]

I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around 4 Illini in the first 50 picks of the draft.

[Swaggs]

Baltimore is having a nice draft.

The OT out of Iowa State is a real good pick for a late 2nd rounder.

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

What worse in third? Punter or trading up to take receiver with seventh round grade?

And yeah Eisen has been great. Even more so for how much he annoys Mayock at times

That punter rant was the funniest thing I have seen in a week or two.

[Izulde]

Wish they'd post what Miami got for 73.

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

That punter rant was the funniest thing I have seen in a week or two.

This.

[Racer]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Not sure about Indy going back to back with TEs.

Nice value on both, but coming off the season they had last season, they have more pressing needs than that 2nd TE.

You figure it's going to to take 2 to 3 drafts (including this one) for the Colts to rebuild their team though so you might as well go BPA which seems to be what they did. The Patriots showed you can utilize two TEs in this league so I love both picks.

[Grover]

"Olivier Vernon is one I'd bang the table for." - Mayock

Alright then.

[Grover]

Also, Brian Billick is about 10,000 times better than any analyst on ESPN. I enjoy listening to him talk about players.

[Lathum]

haha, I think Russel Wilsons cable just went out

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by Grover

Also, Brian Billick is about 10,000 times better than any analyst on ESPN. I enjoy listening to him talk about players.

+1

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Carman Bulldog

I really love the value of the Hill pick for the Jets. Unfortunately I don't think they'll be able to maximize his skills with their lack of a strong armed QB and it really lessens his value. At the end of the day, I think they should have went elsewhere with that pick because of this.

In theory I think he can create spacing for Holmes and Keller. But they are probably not going to commit so much evtra over the top help if he isnt creating the long home run plays. I'm not sure what Sanchez's long passing numbers are. His interview I heard on the radio made me think he has a good head on his shoulders.

[BillJasper]

Laughing my ass off at a team with as many needs as the Jaguars taking a punter in the 3rd round.

[mauchow]

Congrats to Wilson for going in the third round! Much better than some expected. I will forever remember him as the best QB of all time -- At Wisconsin.

He'll be behind Flynn and get a shot when Flynn fails.

[Matthean]

Wilson pick is interesting. Only one starting QB in the league under 6' but it's Brees.

[Carman Bulldog]

Count me in the camp who thinks that Russell Wilson can be a top NFL QB and much like Bree's, size won't be an issue.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

Laughing my ass off at a team with as many needs as the Jaguars taking a punter in the 3rd round.

Well, I consider it a hedge for having Gabbert starting at QB.

The Jags have to be early favorites for the #1 pick, right? You could pursuade me that the Rams have 2 good chances as well.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by Carman Bulldog

Count me in the camp who thinks that Russell Wilson can be a top NFL QB and much like Bree's, size won't be an issue.

Agreed. Has a strong arm and has football smarts.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by stevew

The Jags have to be early favorites for the #1 pick, right? You could pursuade me that the Rams have 2 good chances as well.

The Vikings aren't going to let either of them that it too easily.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

Laughing my ass off at a team with as many needs as the Jaguars taking a punter in the 3rd round.

They'll need to keep teams backed up. That punter is gonna get a lot of work.

[Matthean]

Wilson benefited massively from his supporting cast at Wisconsin. He was 5th in his conference before going there.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by mckerney

The Vikings aren't going to let either of them that it too easily.

Woohoo!

I mean, ****! 4-12 looks good for next year; another top 6 pick and then maybe we'll turn it back on the following season.....

[BillJasper]

Anything happens to Jones-Drew and the Jags cruise easily to the 2013 number one pick.

[Big Fo]

Originally Posted by Izulde

Wish they'd post what Miami got for 73.

From thephinsider.com: "The Miami Dolphins have traded out of the 73rd position in the 2012 NFL Draft. They gave the pick to San Diego for picks 78 and 183."

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Wilson benefited massively from his supporting cast at Wisconsin. He was 5th in his conference before going there.

Toon is good but not great; Abby was a walk receiver who has turned into a WR who is better than Toon (in college anyway). Montee Ball is obviously great but Wilson succeeded because he was a damn good college football player. He played behind a line that was bigger than all but one NFL OL and proved that height really didn't bother him a whole lot. Ball probably benefited more from Wilson than the other way around.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

Toon is good but not great; Abby was a walk receiver who has turned into a WR who is better than Toon (in college anyway). Montee Ball is obviously great but Wilson succeeded because he was a damn good college football player. He played behind a line that was bigger than all but one NFL OL and proved that height really didn't bother him a whole lot. Ball probably benefited more from Wilson than the other way around.

Spot on.

[BillJasper]

I think the Seahawks still have no real idea of who they want to play QB. They'll just keep adding them until one stands out.

[sabotai]

So the Giants take a WR that they say is "NFL ready" and they were considering in the 1st round. Sure hope he can jump right into Manningham's spot.

I guess this also means that Ramses Barden isn't coming along as well as they'd like.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

Toon is good but not great; Abby was a walk receiver who has turned into a WR who is better than Toon (in college anyway). Montee Ball is obviously great but Wilson succeeded because he was a damn good college football player. He played behind a line that was bigger than all but one NFL OL and proved that height really didn't bother him a whole lot. Ball probably benefited more from Wilson than the other way around.

And he won't have that massive line to be behind in Seattle either. Wisconsin mauled many teams unlike what Seattle will do. Again, before going to Wisconsin he was merely a mid level conference kind of guy.

I'm finding Massie's drop to be interesting. He's been listed as best overall for some time.

[molson]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

I think the Seahawks still have no real idea of who they want to play QB. They'll just keep adding them until one stands out.

Jeff George should stay by his phone.

[Thomkal]

Ugh Cards get a gift when the offensive tackle Massie falls to them in the third round when they didn't have a 2nd pick and they take a CB. After drafting Patrick Peterson in the first round last year. Just great.

[Matthean]

Finally a Michigan guy.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by molson

Jeff George should stay by his phone.

[Swaggs]

Yeah. Massie must have failed a drug test or something.

He was projected to be long gone by now (and this seems like a pretty weak year for OTs).

[Grover]

Sanu! Yes!

[Julio Riddols]

Sanu, nice.

[BillJasper]

Taking a long view, I like what the Dolphins are doing. They won't be substantially better this year but are building a solid offensive core if Tannehill pans out.

Still need to find a deep threat.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Sanu, nice.

+1

Now use one of those 5th round picks to move up and guarantee getting Miller.