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Draft Dodger · 03-09-2004, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Dola.

I was also surprised to hear that Cloutier didn't try to fight Aebischer. Cloutier likes to fight and is pretty good at it, if I recall. Then again, Aebischer is Swiss, there's no way he was dropping the gloves.

Cloutier, being a crappy goalie, was pulled in the 1st.
his replacement Johan Hedberg DID try to fight with Aebischer - when all the players squared off after the Moore hit, Hedberg skated to center ice. Aebischer just pointed at the scoreboard.

Ksyrup · 03-09-2004, 07:09 AM

I wonder how many times Florida is going to sign Bure, trade him, then sign him again. Pretty good racket. I was in South Florida over the weekend, and they discussed trading him at this deadline and signing him again next year (whenever next year comes...).

I watched the Avs game last night. I didn't know the history there, but the fighting was intense, early and often. I loved Peter Worrell from his Panthers days. Mo-fo just looks like he was born to kick someone's ass.

Draft Dodger · 03-09-2004, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Double dola (only because I am the only one awake at this late hour. Well, late for you people, it's lunch time here).

Looks like the Derek Morris era in Colorado has come to an end. TSN reports Morris and a prospect were shipped to Phoenix for Chris Gratton and Ossi Vaananen. I like the name Ossi Vaananen. Morris never seemed to become the player everyone hoped he would in Colorado. Interesting deal. Colorado gets one more "tough" forward to go along with the likes of Cummins, Worrell, Barnaby (in his own way), etc.

I wondered if he (Morris) was going to go - you're right, he really isn't the guy they thought they were going to be getting. and now that Liles has blossomed into a good point guy on the power play, and they've brought in guys like Suaer and Boughner, Morris was expendable.

damn, I wish we had Drury back instead though.

Draft Dodger · 03-09-2004, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Interesting line on Brad May: 2 goals, 47 penalty minutes. I wonder if that is a record, most penalty minutes in one game in which a player scores 2 or more goals? Hmmm....

it was a little amusing to watch - after his first goal, he hit Aebischer, and probably should have received a minor penalty for that. a couple minutes later, he scored again, and again skated right over to Aebischer. that time, he got a 10 minute misconduct - I can only imagine what penalty he would have drawn for himself if he'd pulled off the hat trick.

Draft Dodger · 03-09-2004, 07:18 AM

damn - TSN.CA is getting hammered it seems. is there another good site with trade stuff as it's happening?

Draft Dodger · 03-09-2004, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I watched the Avs game last night. I didn't know the history there, but the fighting was intense, early and often. I loved Peter Worrell from his Panthers days. Mo-fo just looks like he was born to kick someone's ass.

yeah, I've liked Worrell from the beginning. But it's funny - for all his size and toughness I don't really think he's a great fighter; I think his height and clumsiness (on skates) works against him a bit and he ends up being a being a decent fighter, but not a great one.

Ksyrup · 03-09-2004, 07:24 AM

I just pulled up the tsn.ca trade tracker, and it's showing Tommy Salo to Colorado, but TBA on who they gave up.

Draft Dodger · 03-09-2004, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I just pulled up the tsn.ca trade tracker, and it's showing Tommy Salo to Colorado, but TBA on who they gave up.

damn, TSN, nice server...

I can live with Salo. I'm assuming Lacroix didn't give up the farm to get him.

Ksyrup · 03-09-2004, 07:39 AM

Salo and 6th rounder in 2004 for Tom Gilbert.

Draft Dodger · 03-09-2004, 07:49 AM

I'd assume the Avs are mostly done now...
they've got their goalie and their size and toughness up front.
now they just need their Forsberg.

sachmo71 · 03-09-2004, 08:00 AM

Oh crap.

Val Bure? The most un-Stars type player in the league. Crap.

Draft Dodger · 03-09-2004, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sachmo71

Oh crap.

Val Bure? The most un-Stars type player in the league. Crap.

I raised an eyebrow at that as well.

Maple Leafs · 03-09-2004, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Colorado gets one more "tough" forward to go along with the likes of Cummins, Worrell, Barnaby (in his own way), etc.

Cummins? As in Jim Cummins? Don't tell me that punching bag is still in the league?

Barnaby has to be one of the most over-rated players in the league. He's a sideshow. And I give him credit for being willing to drop the gloves, but the guy loses every fight he's in, and usually loses badly. You have to wonder if he doesn't actually hurt his team by going out there and getting pummeled all the time.

Haven't seen the Bertuzzi hit yes, but it sounds awful. My guess is 16 games, which would be the rest of the season plus three playoff games. That would be enough to cost him a fortune and seriously damage the Canucks playoff chances without completely derailing them.

Draft Dodger · 03-09-2004, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Haven't seen the Bertuzzi hit yes, but it sounds awful. My guess is 16 games, which would be the rest of the season plus three playoff games. That would be enough to cost him a fortune and seriously damage the Canucks playoff chances without completely derailing them.

it also might galvanize them into playing a bit better. but unless they are getting a goalie today and maybe some more scoring, none of it matters.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-09-2004, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Cummins? As in Jim Cummins? Don't tell me that punching bag is still in the league?

I was as shocked as you were to learn this. He hoped on board during training camp (when Worrell was injured) and just sort of stuck. I think he's still with the team as far as I know. I can't stand him. He is in a very special circle of hockey players "Players H_B hates even when playing for the Wings." There haven't been that many (thank god), but there are a few...

corbes · 03-09-2004, 08:13 AM

Crazy Bob's Latest Trading Flurry:

-Got D Vladimir Malakhov from the Rangers for prospect Rick Kozak and a 2005 2nd rounder.

-Traded D Chris Therien to Dallas for a 2004 8th rounder and a 2005 3rd rounder.

-Planning to acquire D Greg de Vries from NYR this afternoon.

-No immediate truth to the rumor that he was going to send St. Louis' 5th round pick back to them for Eric Weinrich. This was actually, SERIOUSLY, a rumor yesterday.

Draft Dodger · 03-09-2004, 08:14 AM

Cummins is indeed still with the Avs...and gets a great seat (press box) for every game.

klayman · 03-09-2004, 08:24 AM

Well, crap. Who am I going to rag on now while watching the Oiler games?

henry296 · 03-09-2004, 08:24 AM

Rumor in Pittsburgh is Alexi Morozov to Vancouver for former 1st round pick RJ Umberger (a Pittsburgh native) who is basically holding out.

Todd

Honolulu_Blue · 03-09-2004, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by klayman

Well, crap. Who am I going to rag on now while watching the Oiler games?

Might I suggest... Cummins? Or if you want to rag on an Oil... How about Eric Brewer? Make him the new Poti.

Draft Dodger · 03-09-2004, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by henry296

Rumor in Pittsburgh is Alexi Morozov to Vancouver for former 1st round pick RJ Umberger (a Pittsburgh native) who is basically holding out.

Todd

is Morozov a goalie now?

Draft Dodger · 03-09-2004, 08:27 AM

damn TSN...

klayman · 03-09-2004, 08:28 AM

I like Brewer. That won't do. I think I'll stick McTavish and Lowe as my new scapegoats.

samifan24 · 03-09-2004, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

yeah, I've liked Worrell from the beginning. But it's funny - for all his size and toughness I don't really think he's a great fighter; I think his height and clumsiness (on skates) works against him a bit and he ends up being a being a decent fighter, but not a great one.

Worrell could not skate backwards until midway through juniors.

Draft Dodger · 03-09-2004, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by samifan24

Worrell could not skate backwards until midway through juniors.

I can't skate backwards now.
or forwards for that matter.

samifan24 · 03-09-2004, 08:41 AM

You should try. Once you get the hang of it it's like riding a bike or driving a car and you never even think about it. Seriously, you should give it a shot sometime.

klayman · 03-09-2004, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

I can't skate backwards now.
or forwards for that matter.

Sad. When I was young, I had to skate to school in the morning, and backwards just to get home.

Draft Dodger · 03-09-2004, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by samifan24

You should try. Once you get the hang of it it's like riding a bike or driving a car and you never even think about it. Seriously, you should give it a shot sometime.

it's a goal. I've kicked myself repeatedly for not learning when I was younger living in Canada. Had a friend who played and was willing to teach me to skate - just didn't have the patience.

Draft Dodger · 03-09-2004, 09:03 AM

finally can get to TSN. the Avs gave up Keith Ballard along with Morris in the Gratton/Vaananen which makes it seem like way too steep a price...

oh well.

Maple Leafs · 03-09-2004, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by samifan24

Worrell could not skate backwards until midway through juniors.

If anyone is wondering, this isn't a joke. Worrell really couldn't skate in junior (he played in Hull, which is just outside of Ottawa).

Full credit to the guy, he worked hard and turned himself into enough of a player that he's made a living in the NHL.

MikeVic · 03-09-2004, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

finally can get to TSN. the Avs gave up Keith Ballard along with Morris in the Gratton/Vaananen which makes it seem like way too steep a price...

oh well.

I've always liked Morris.. I think this is too steep a price too.

Ksyrup · 03-09-2004, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Salo and 6th rounder in 2004 for Tom Gilbert.

Apparently the 6th round pick is in 2005, not 2004 as originally reported.

Travis · 03-09-2004, 09:47 AM

Please, somebody tell me this Gilbert kid is an upcoming phenom. I mean, I know Salo hasn't been on the top of his game, but considering we couldn't get the kid for him straight up and had to toss in a draft pick to get the deal done, I'm really hoping Lowe is seeing something here.

Draft Dodger · 03-09-2004, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis

Please, somebody tell me this Gilbert kid is an upcoming phenom. I mean, I know Salo hasn't been on the top of his game, but considering we couldn't get the kid for him straight up and had to toss in a draft pick to get the deal done, I'm really hoping Lowe is seeing something here.

former 5th round pick.

http://www.hersheypa.com/events/hers...s/gilbert.html

Draft Dodger · 03-09-2004, 10:04 AM

Canucks looking at Ron Francis?
that would be a great fit, IMO.

Leafs too...

Maple Leafs · 03-09-2004, 10:13 AM

First the Leafs get Calle Johnansson, now they're looking at Ron Francis?

I guess someone gave Ferguson a copy of NHL 95 for his birthday.

Draft Dodger · 03-09-2004, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

First the Leafs get Calle Johnansson, now they're looking at Ron Francis?

I guess someone gave Ferguson a copy of NHL 95 for his birthday.

you forgot Brian Leetch

bbor · 03-09-2004, 10:49 AM

The Leafs sign.......Calle Johansson...AHAHAHAH...that is funny....purely a depth move...he may not even get into a game.

Bertuzzi will be suspended for at least the remainder of the season...if not longer.

What's the story on Morris.....Why did the Avs give up on him?

Honolulu_Blue · 03-09-2004, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

First the Leafs get Calle Johnansson, now they're looking at Ron Francis?

I guess someone gave Ferguson a copy of NHL 95 for his birthday.

Old players are the way forward. 37+ are the key. That way, when you actually sign or trade for a player who is say, 33, you feel like you're getting a young kid, just ready to enter his prime. You're all like "33? Damn, he's still got another good 8-10 years left. What a steal!"

MikeVic · 03-09-2004, 10:58 AM

What is this Bertuzzi thing? I haven't seen it.. or even heard about it..

bbor · 03-09-2004, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by samifan24

Worrell could not skate backwards until midway through juniors.

Rob Ray STILL can't skate backwards.....or forwards for that matter

samifan24 · 03-09-2004, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

What is this Bertuzzi thing? I haven't seen it.. or even heard about it..

Click here for footage of his attack on Colorado's Steve Moore.

bbor · 03-09-2004, 11:07 AM

we need a trade thread .this one takes too long to load

MikeVic · 03-09-2004, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by samifan24

Click here for footage of his attack on Colorado's Steve Moore.

omg... did Moore do anything to Bertuzzi before that? If he didn't, Bertuzzi should definitely be suspended for the rest of the season and part of the playoffs too.

If Moore did something to Bertuzzi, Todd should still be suspended.. but maybe just the regular season. Must suck for Moore to glide his face on the ice like that too...

Maple Leafs · 03-09-2004, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bbor

Rob Ray STILL can't skate backwards.....or forwards for that matter

Actually, I bet the next time he sees Brashear coming Ray will be skating backwards very quickly.

Pyser · 03-09-2004, 11:24 AM

all stems back to moores hit on naslund 2 weeks ago that gave him a concussion.

bertuzzi should be suspended until well into the playoffs. that was awful, and embarassing for the sport.

MikeVic · 03-09-2004, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

all stems back to moores hit on naslund 2 weeks ago that gave him a concussion.

bertuzzi should be suspended until well into the playoffs. that was awful, and embarassing for the sport.

I heard Marc Crawford yelling about that hit. Moore didn't get punished much for it, did he?

bbor · 03-09-2004, 11:25 AM

Leafs claim Chad Kilger off waivers

MikeVic · 03-09-2004, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bbor

Leafs claim Chad Kilger off waivers

Hah! Kilger! One of the men involved in the Selanne trade with the Jets... I remember putting Kilger on my 1st line in NHL 97 (or maybe 98?), trying to make him something special... it didn't work.

Pyser · 03-09-2004, 11:32 AM

no, moore was never punished.

well, until yesterday...

03-09-2004, 07:09 AM	#752
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I wonder how many times Florida is going to sign Bure, trade him, then sign him again. Pretty good racket. I was in South Florida over the weekend, and they discussed trading him at this deadline and signing him again next year (whenever next year comes...). I watched the Avs game last night. I didn't know the history there, but the fighting was intense, early and often. I loved Peter Worrell from his Panthers days. Mo-fo just looks like he was born to kick someone's ass. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

03-09-2004, 07:18 AM	#755
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	damn - TSN.CA is getting hammered it seems. is there another good site with trade stuff as it's happening? __________________ Mile High Hockey

03-09-2004, 07:24 AM	#757
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I just pulled up the tsn.ca trade tracker, and it's showing Tommy Salo to Colorado, but TBA on who they gave up. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

03-09-2004, 07:39 AM	#759
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Salo and 6th rounder in 2004 for Tom Gilbert. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete." Last edited by Ksyrup : 03-09-2004 at 07:39 AM.

03-09-2004, 07:49 AM	#760
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	I'd assume the Avs are mostly done now... they've got their goalie and their size and toughness up front. now they just need their Forsberg. __________________ Mile High Hockey

03-09-2004, 08:00 AM	#761
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	Oh crap. Val Bure? The most un-Stars type player in the league. Crap.

03-09-2004, 08:13 AM	#766
corbes College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	Crazy Bob's Latest Trading Flurry: -Got D Vladimir Malakhov from the Rangers for prospect Rick Kozak and a 2005 2nd rounder. -Traded D Chris Therien to Dallas for a 2004 8th rounder and a 2005 3rd rounder. -Planning to acquire D Greg de Vries from NYR this afternoon. -No immediate truth to the rumor that he was going to send St. Louis' 5th round pick back to them for Eric Weinrich. This was actually, SERIOUSLY, a rumor yesterday.

03-09-2004, 08:14 AM	#767
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	Cummins is indeed still with the Avs...and gets a great seat (press box) for every game. __________________ Mile High Hockey

03-09-2004, 08:24 AM	#768
klayman College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edmonton	Well, crap. Who am I going to rag on now while watching the Oiler games?

03-09-2004, 08:24 AM	#769
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Rumor in Pittsburgh is Alexi Morozov to Vancouver for former 1st round pick RJ Umberger (a Pittsburgh native) who is basically holding out. Todd __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

03-09-2004, 08:27 AM	#772
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	damn TSN... __________________ Mile High Hockey

03-09-2004, 08:28 AM	#773
klayman College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edmonton	I like Brewer. That won't do. I think I'll stick McTavish and Lowe as my new scapegoats.

03-09-2004, 08:41 AM	#776
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	You should try. Once you get the hang of it it's like riding a bike or driving a car and you never even think about it. Seriously, you should give it a shot sometime. __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

03-09-2004, 09:03 AM	#779
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	finally can get to TSN. the Avs gave up Keith Ballard along with Morris in the Gratton/Vaananen which makes it seem like way too steep a price... oh well. __________________ Mile High Hockey

03-09-2004, 09:47 AM	#783
Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	Please, somebody tell me this Gilbert kid is an upcoming phenom. I mean, I know Salo hasn't been on the top of his game, but considering we couldn't get the kid for him straight up and had to toss in a draft pick to get the deal done, I'm really hoping Lowe is seeing something here. __________________ "I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." - Rogers Hornsby

03-09-2004, 10:04 AM	#785
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	Canucks looking at Ron Francis? that would be a great fit, IMO. Leafs too... __________________ Mile High Hockey Last edited by Draft Dodger : 03-09-2004 at 10:05 AM.

03-09-2004, 10:13 AM	#786
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	First the Leafs get Calle Johnansson, now they're looking at Ron Francis? I guess someone gave Ferguson a copy of NHL 95 for his birthday. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

03-09-2004, 10:49 AM	#788
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	The Leafs sign.......Calle Johansson...AHAHAHAH...that is funny....purely a depth move...he may not even get into a game. Bertuzzi will be suspended for at least the remainder of the season...if not longer. What's the story on Morris.....Why did the Avs give up on him? __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

03-09-2004, 10:58 AM	#790
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	What is this Bertuzzi thing? I haven't seen it.. or even heard about it..

03-09-2004, 11:07 AM	#793
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	we need a trade thread .this one takes too long to load __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

03-09-2004, 11:24 AM	#796
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	all stems back to moores hit on naslund 2 weeks ago that gave him a concussion. bertuzzi should be suspended until well into the playoffs. that was awful, and embarassing for the sport.

03-09-2004, 11:25 AM	#798
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Leafs claim Chad Kilger off waivers __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

03-09-2004, 11:32 AM	#800
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	no, moore was never punished. well, until yesterday...

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