08-16-2007, 03:20 PM | #751 |
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not voted: telle, chief rum, ntndeacon, schmidty, sndvls
4/5 of you are in the thread. let's get this hashed out |
08-16-2007, 03:22 PM | #752 | |
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I would be careful about just assuming the people are bad for reasons I already pointed out (named socialite also don't know, except, assumedly, Mrs. Peacock). It's a mark against them, but we have better candidates to go after. Plus, you have to also remember that some out there will still throw out Mrs.Peacock's name, so that it doesn't show that she is being "ignored". Wolves and murderers might pick up on that, ya know? |
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08-16-2007, 03:23 PM | #753 | |
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Per Pass, there were no duplicate clues given at the start. I'd say that the wolves have no incentive to lie in case of getting caught out. We've only had one duplicate so far. So yes, in general I trust the list.
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08-16-2007, 03:24 PM | #754 | |
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sorry if this point has since beren made, but wouldn't it be better if those that have 2 people vouching against their murderous intent can be changed out for people withonly one. For example Crim has 2 folks vouching for him. I think I have only one. There are probably others as well, but iam doing it off the top of my head. |
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08-16-2007, 03:25 PM | #755 | |
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You're depending on the opening role, the "Chekcing in, I am a villager, everyone" posts as your way of defining this? Come on, path, your play here is paranoid and overreaching. You are far too much of a veteran wolf to make this play. We need far more than this (and if its coming as I try to catch up, sorry for wasting everyone's time). |
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08-16-2007, 03:29 PM | #756 | |
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Oh, I'm aware of that possibility. I'm not forcing anyone to believe my theory, though insinuating that it is ridiculous is going to get a response from me. However -- I'm going to vote for who I think the wolves are. If I get other info down the line that makes me change my mind, I will.
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08-16-2007, 03:30 PM | #758 | |
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Chief, you know as well as anyone that we've found wolves multiple times based on opening posts.
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08-16-2007, 03:32 PM | #759 |
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I'm viewing, but not always on.
vote St. Cronin don't really have a feel for either he or Saldana, so it's a gut vote between the two |
08-16-2007, 03:35 PM | #760 |
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there are a certain # of people who because of #'s couldn't be viewed a second time. you're on that short-list this time. but if whoever is scheduled to view cronin/saldana (whoever gets lynched) wants to hold their order till the last minute and view ntn instead of the lynched person, if you're around at that point whoever that is...that'd be awesome |
08-16-2007, 03:36 PM | #761 |
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Path - 1 (Render) Cronin - 6 (neon, saldana, barkeep, oliegirl, crim, sndvls) no lynch - 1 (swaggs) saldana - 3 (lsg, DT, alanT) DaddyTorgo - 1 (path) Barkeep - 1 (Cronin) |
08-16-2007, 03:37 PM | #762 |
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alright. now everyone's here. i have to leave in like 10 minutes, so let's get this sorted out now so i can go home knowing there will be a lynch
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08-16-2007, 03:38 PM | #763 | |
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Interesting that you get caught in the very lie you want to hang others for. That said, as I said before, I'm not leaping to assuming someone si guilty for this, as you are. I'm not going to hang people for their opening post in this game. Tons of WW games and experience go against this logic. |
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08-16-2007, 03:42 PM | #764 | |
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Ok just got caught up. I think we still don't know if there is preference given in night accusations to new information or to information you didn't start with. Therefore, I'd encourage those who started with a weapon to include that in their accusation. If someone gets back that as a response I think we're in much better shape in terms of how the accusations work. I will be scanning Telle per that list.
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08-16-2007, 03:43 PM | #766 |
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best i can figure...barring multiple late-switches...2 more votes on cronin should lock it down
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08-16-2007, 03:44 PM | #767 | |
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Render, don't be misled here. path is very unlikely to be a wolf, and even if he is, we have better targets. His argument isn't worthless; it actually has alot of value, and I started this game on the assumption people would make the mistake he is referring to and "out" themselves. What I don't agree with is how he is rushing to accuse people on what I think is flimsy circumstantial reasoning, especially when there are better candidates available. We need to do more investigating before following up on his list, IMO, and since we have other candidates, there is no sense in forcing the issue now with respect to path's outlook here. I would recommend unvoting path if you haven't already, and vote for one of the three real candidates we have right now. |
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08-16-2007, 03:46 PM | #768 |
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and i've got...7 minutes till i'm out the door.
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Finally got caught up (busy day at work). But I'm probably going to take off in a few to go make dinner and then take the kids to the park.
And I think I mentioned either last night or early this morning that st.cronin had been pinging my radar. Looks like a lot of others are feeling that way too. VOTE ST.CRONIN |
08-16-2007, 03:54 PM | #770 |
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typed up a response but gamespy ate it
mrs. white...don't be swayed by cronin's pleas. either cronin or alan need to die tonight. you decide based on who you'd rather see alive...but one of the two is lying and the only way to find out for sure is to take the 1-1 trade and kill one now. either that or hold your kill and we'll lynch one of the two tomorrow. but i'd like to get things moving here. gtg out the door |
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If the wolves are helping the murderer, they have incentive to lie. And if people are intentionally hiding their actual received clue in order for themselves to have a step up toward the individual victory, I could see that, too. Not sure what makes you so confident in the list. |
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ntn, voting yet?
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08-16-2007, 03:57 PM | #774 | |
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Yes, but it is exceedingly rare. And throwing it out now when we have good candidates just muddies the water. Personally, I think you're reaching to try to validate your argument under pressure from others arguing against you (i.e. Render). You don't need to do that--your argument has validity. But it's not a plan to follow now, and there needs to be much more before I would consider basing a vote on it. |
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Well, I pretty much intimated to this last night, and nothing I have read has changed my mind.
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Yea I am almost caught up. I think Iam gonna go with Saldana and help clear up this altercation with saldana and Alan. besides that will make the vote closer and we can see last minute changes better. Vote saldana |
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I personally think it's early yet for Mrs. White to use her murdering ability. I'd give it another day.
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08-16-2007, 04:01 PM | #778 |
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I'm torn on this because in some ways I feel like she could save us a day of voting, but in other ways agree that with us honing in so closely on the murderer, and it appears a wolf, that it might be better off to save until later.
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what I am saying is that some of the folks being viewed have ALREADY been cleared twice. shouldn't we make sure to get those cleared only once on that list before trying to clear someone a third time. I realize we can not view everyoner tonight, but your list seems to me to be a little shortsighted is all. |
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08-16-2007, 04:04 PM | #781 | |
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I did try this, but with location FYI |
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Well, I see the writing on the wall, but I'm not changing my vote. If people are right and its really between me and saldana as the murderer, then it must be saldana. And if that's the case, Barkeep is a wolf, since he cleared saldana.
So, I'll leave my vote on Barkeep. Somebody can try to accuse saldana tomorrow, go for the win. |
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I am confident that saldana is not the murderer, cronin, and would welcome that debate if/when the time comes.
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08-16-2007, 04:24 PM | #787 |
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DOLA -- Though I consider it highly likely that he is a wolf.
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08-16-2007, 04:28 PM | #789 |
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It's cronin by a mile. I think he's got 8 with the next closest being 3.
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08-16-2007, 04:30 PM | #790 |
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Ok. I'm really hoping he turns up as the murderer, just so we can get beyond all this bickering about revealing information.
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I'm back in the thread and definitely feel that going with DT's plan is the way to go at this point. Based on what we find out tonight we may have to switch gears tomorrow, but I'm really pleased at the way we all worked together today Hopefully we are on the right track and cronin will either be the murderer or a wolf...
I'm going to turn in my view order for tonight and then will be hanging around waiting for lynch time... |
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I have 10 for cronin, and 3 for saldana, of the front-runners.
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Because the Murderer gets one sure kill every night. With the ratio between villagers and wolves, this is a huge + for the wolves, since the Murderer is more likely to kill a villager than a wolf at this point.
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The murderer won't accidentally kill the wolves because (s)he knows who the wolves are. And the way I read the rules, as it is clear that the murderer and wolves are to kill socialites, suggests to me that perhaps they can't intentionally kill each other. So, basically I agree that the wolves want the murderer around.
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Pass: Can the wolves and murderer kill each other?
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Yeah, I skimmed over that part. You're right. The murderer and the wolves do know each other. Even a bigger incentive to kill the murderer immediately.
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When I turn up villager, look to Barkeep and saldana. There's something fishy about the two of them. That's all I've got for you.
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so St. C you ain't gonna give up your clues huh?
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