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No one's said the real reason this won't happen. Howland. Dixon and Howland are best of friends. They can't stand playing each other. When they met in the NCAAs two years ago, it was grating for both of them to have to play each other. No way they decide to play in the same conference, forcing them to play each other at least twice and maybe three times per season.
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I'd think it quite likely. Both in terms of how they've played this year, and the fact that St. Mary's (pre-Mills injury, anyhow) are beginning to nip at their heels now. The losses of Pargo and Heytvelt will be big, too, and I think next year they'll need to bank on Daye really taking that next big step and, from watching him this year, I'm not so sure he has it in him. Few does have a top-100 swingman coming in, but I still have a strong feeling that he'll be elsewhere after this year.
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I don't disagree that some or all of Pitt's defections have had reasons, personal or not, for leaving. But the fact remains that essentially all of their successful coaches have left for other college jobs over the past 30-years. I think it is because athletics are not a top priority (or have not always been a priority) and they do not have a competitive AD budget, which is fine, as its priority is maintaining itself as a top notch academic school.
Maybe Dixon wants to be Pitt's Lute Olson or Jim Calhoun, but I wouldn't be surprised if he receives the full-court press from Arizona this off season. And, I don't think his current recruiting class or the current state of Arizona's basketball program will deter him. Either way, whether he stays or goes, he is due to receive a big payday this offseason when you consider his age and how ridiculous his record has been in his first six-years on the job (in the Big East, no less). |
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I have heard this before and think it is ridiculous, whether it is true or not. I cannot imagine anyone denying themselves the opportunity to pursue success in their field AND limit their (and their family's) income opportunities because it is THAT difficult to face a friend. And, I cannot imagine it would be any more stressful than playing for a conference championship or in the Final Four. Again, I have heard it said, so I know you aren't pulling it out of your ass. But, I see those types of statements made purely out of respect for one another rather than them being legitimate factors in career choices. |
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Well, I think if an opportunity came up that truly was a step up for Dixon, that that this consideration would not stop it. The thing is, I think there is only one program in the West that is a clear step up from what Dixon is doing right now at Pitt, and that is UCLA. Obviously, then, there can be no conflict, for for Dixon to go to UCLA (and I am pretty sure he is on their shortlist if Howland were to leave), Howland would have to leave. Arizona is tricky. I don't know that they will pay enough to lure him. Lute was AZ's draw. They were nothing before he came around. So that would be rolling a lot of dice to give AZ a run when he already has a very good job in one of the country's top conferences. If there was a major non-Pac 10 conference out West with a superpower of some sort, I could see it drawing him, regardless of what it would mean between him and Howland. But no Pac 10 program that doesn't already have Howland as a coach is enough to draw him over against his objections to having to play his friend 2-3 times per year.
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It's never a good thing to follow a legend. That being said, you should see the wishlist over at the Arizona sites. And they are dead serious about this interest (according to posters over there)
Izzo, Cal, Pitino, Donovan - Top List Back up - Few, Dixon Longshots - Sean Miller, Tubby Smith And Chief, I think the playing Howland 2-3 times a year has been overplayed. Sure it might be a concern, but if he wants to come out West, it won't be an issue. No other job is worth coming out here if you are Dixon. That also being said, Arizona is going to be epically bad next year. I doubt the new coach can convince both Chase and Hill to come back for another season |
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Just giving the sentiment from on campus Now, if this team doesn't make it past the sweet 16 then there will be even more disappointment about it. The other Pitt team's during this 8 year run were solid, but never really were favored in the sweet 16 matchups. This year will be much different as a 1 or, worst case a 2 seed. |
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I never thought I'd see the day when Swaggs was defending Pitt. You sir are a traitor and are no longer welcome in my house.
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I can certainly see that opinion coming from a college student point-of-view. As you get older, you quickly realize that the years that you thought were 'failures' were actually great years. It just takes a downturn of a few years for you to quickly realize as a fan that you'd give anything to have the program back that you used to criticize as not being good enough. Take it from a Mizzou fan who took the regular tourney appearances under Norm Stewart for granted. I'm glad that Mizzou is back in the hunt now, but the previous 4 years have been very tough as a fan. |
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Delusional is what comes to mind when reading that. I dont see any of those top 6 that were listed as being interested. Sean Miller and Tubby Smith are interesting though. Tubby has turned the Minnesota team around and has a very very nice class coming in next year. Minnesota isnt exactly known for stuff though, and Miller is a fantastic coach. While Xavier is ranked and can bring in kids would Zona be a step up? Im not sure but those 2 for me at least are interesting. Anyone else got any opinions on those last 2? |
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I dunno Muns, I think Few would listen hard to an offer from Arizona.
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I think you are right here. Due to his team not having a typical season, and the fact that he has turned down more than his fair share of opportunities. Might be the perfect time to bolt. He made a winner of of the Zags, he certianly is capable of doing the same in Arizona. |
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Few has been a sought-after guy for a number of years now. I know he was considered for the Kansas job after Roy Williams went to UNC. Pretty sure Bill Self was the first one to receive the offer, but I know they looked at Few.
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Damn... you outted yourself before I had the chance? I cannot believe you would admit to having a degree from Pitt. |
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Yeah, kind of hard to take any hate seriously when you..uh..went to school there.
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I'm pretty happy with how that one turned out (tho I think Few would do a very good job at a large school, too) SI
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Sean Miller took his name out of the ring of some high-profile jobs at the end of last season... would be surprised to see him go anywhere for a while.
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Xavier would be okay. They seem to have an endless supply of guys that can take them to the Sweet Sixteen.
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FYI to Mizzou fans on the board. Sports Illustrated is in Columbia today and will have an article this week on the reemergence of the program.
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VERY doubtful. Wife is reportedly very happy in Columbia. They moved here so they could be closer to family and friends who live in Oklahoma and Arkansas. When asked on Tiger Talk the other night about the Alabama job, he responded, "If Momma's happy, then I'm happy. Right now, Momma's very happy in Columbia." Knowing how strong of a personality his wife is, that statement speaks volumes. I have heard that Alabama is trying to coax in Calipari, but Memphis is ready to buck up for another extension and pay raise if they have to do so to keep him there. |
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Understood. I would have made the same decision. I'm just surprised that didn't melt away any of the "hate".
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Penn State beats Illinois 38-33...what an ugly game.
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Did they agree to not use the shot clock?
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Illinois didn't go to the line the entire game.
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How many TD's for Juice Williams?
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Funny thing is Penn State scored 38 points in the football game against illinois this season...38-24
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As a Mizzou fan, you see a result like that Illinois game and curse your luck that the one night you played them, one of their guards was suddenly unconscious from deep. Just baffling.
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Well, I think it goes a little deeper than that. The Illini have the look of a team that peaked too early. They are not all that talented this season, and it sure seems like the rest of the Big Ten has caught up to them in terms of figuring out how to defend this group of players.
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UCLA got a key and needed win tonight. It did not happen easily. Most of the game, I thought UCLA was the better team on the floor tonight, but UDub showed their chops and stuck with it, and made some good runs, including tying it twice late.
Very relieved to get the win in a game that could have gone either way for most of the night. One thing is for sure (not that I doubted this, since I knew going into this season that the Huskies had a chance to be good this year), but UDub is good. Brockman's just a beast underneath (can't wait for him to graduate, why the hell didn't he go pro two years ago?!? Better than Hansbrough and Harangody, IMO), Dentmon never seems to be able to be stopped and is a great shooter with range, and the team just has a lot of nice players that contribute in various ways.
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Closer game than I expected, but once again the UW fails to come through in Pauley Pavilion. UW is now just .5 games ahead of UCLA, ASU & Cal.
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So, I've been watching Butler/Davidson on ESPN. They keep talking about how if Butler doesn't win their conference tourney, they're not an at large team. What? A team in the top 25 with a top 25 RPI wouldn't be in? Realistically, a loss drops them to ~30ish with a 30~35 RPI, so please tell me these announcers are just idiots.
EDIT: Never mind, I guess they've lost twice this week so they won't be in the top 25 when the new poll comes out SI
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I can't stand this UCLA team. It's just a maddening team to root for. I can't count on anything from these guys. I mean, should have/could have beaten ASU last week (but for the refs), and then they mail it in the first half versus Arizona. They come back and get a huge win against UDub, and right now, they're going to have to go thru contortions in the final minute or so to come back on Wazzu...at home!
I almost want this season to jut end, and let's start anew next year with another class coming in.
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And the Bruins do indeed fall, and to a team that outplayed them, if not out-talented them. Taylor Rochestie basically had the game of his life.
I'll give UCLA kudos for really hitting its shots and making it close in the end (final score 82-81 with UCLA's desperation half court shot blocked)--they really just ran out of time. But that's why it's so critically important to start making these plays earlier in the game, to show up from the start, so you don't have to go through this stuff. And not to harp on it, but the refs again played a role. There was a WSU turnover (shouldabeena) along the left side of the court, and somehow the refs gave it back to Wazzu. No one from UCLA even touched the ball in that whole play, Wazzu lost the ball out of bounds, and somehow, the ball went back to Wazzu. But, really, this comes down to UCLA not wanting it again, not wanting it enough. Like I said before, very frustrating team to follow.
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