*World Cup Game Discussion Thread* (SPOILERS) - Page 16

3ric · 06-13-2006, 01:19 PM

If I remember correctly, that's one of the old-timers, Beckenbauer or maybe Platini that you mean... it's like if a football fantasy pick'em a little kid would select Unitas or Tarkenton as QB.

Passacaglia · 06-13-2006, 01:20 PM

Okay...then why do the players have to tell the fat kid who to pick, right after that? Can he only name 4 players or something?

kingfc22 · 06-13-2006, 02:03 PM

Ronaldinho = AMAZING

SirFozzie · 06-13-2006, 02:04 PM

The player mentioned, Franz Beckenbauer, is one of those players that played in the 1970's., (that's early 70's footage of him trotting on to the field)

From Wikipedia

Franz Beckenbauer (born September 11, 1945) is a famous German football player, coach and manager, nicknamed der Kaiser ("the emperor") because of his elegant style, his leadership qualities and his domination on the football pitch.

started his playing career at the age of 9 with the youth team of SC Munich '06 in 1954.

He joined the Bayern Munich youth team in 1958 at the age of fourteen. He made his debut with Bayern in the Regionalliga Süd (Regional League South) on the left wing against FC St. Pauli on 6th June 1964.

sovereignstar · 06-13-2006, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Ronaldinho = AMAZING

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6I22o2-fJgY

3ric · 06-13-2006, 02:48 PM

Cracking game so far.

Crapshoot · 06-13-2006, 03:04 PM

Beckenbauer and Platini are probably on a list of the top 15 players of all time - they were that good. Platini is probably second only to Zidane in terms of French players historically.

AlexB · 06-13-2006, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Beckenbauer and Platini are probably on a list of the top 15 players of all time - they were that good. Platini is probably second only to Zidane in terms of French players historically.

I would suggest it may even be the other way round. In the build up French commentators have said that things are still judged against the benchmark of the 1982-1984 sides, despite the fact that they never won the WC.

Platini, Tigana, Giresse, Rocheteau, Six - they had pretty good midfield & attacking options

MrBug708 · 06-13-2006, 03:46 PM

Nice flares...

3ric · 06-13-2006, 03:53 PM

Amazing support for the Croatians, they are proud of their team, and rightly so.

cartman · 06-13-2006, 04:00 PM

Imagine the team Yugoslavia could have fielded, since both Croatia and Serbia qualified.

MikeVic · 06-13-2006, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Imagine the team Yugoslavia could have fielded, since both Croatia and Serbia qualified.

Now imagine half of those players killing each other from hate...

I read Croatia played well... can't wait to watch the replay.

Icy · 06-13-2006, 04:20 PM

Bad game from Basil, they were lucky that Croatia didn't have any real striker.

daedalus · 06-13-2006, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Critch

I think Reyna is one of the very few who was blameless for yesterday, without his workrate and closing down the Czechs would have controlled midfield even more. Pretty much everybody else shares the blame, the young players who didn't show up at all, McBride bringing his poor EPL form into World Cup and being invisible, Donovan and Beasley both being anonymous (Beasley needs to watch that game again if he thinks he didn't suck).

To be fair to McBride (although I didn't follow his premiership season), he's not a guy who can create on his own. Unless he gets service from the midfield, he's basically useless. And, thus, he was.

Ryan S · 06-13-2006, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Okay...then why do the players have to tell the fat kid who to pick, right after that? Can he only name 4 players or something?

If I remember the advert correctly, I think Zidane tells the kid to pick Platini, possibly the best French player ever.

Platini
Beckenbauer

Huckleberry · 06-13-2006, 05:30 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRO62...occer%20diving

Intentionally mislabeled, of course, but I hadn't seen it.

sovereignstar · 06-13-2006, 05:31 PM

Oh, that is good.

saldana · 06-13-2006, 05:45 PM

can i get a brasil score, i didnt see any of the game (stuck at work)

sovereignstar · 06-13-2006, 05:46 PM

1-0 brazil

MIJB#19 · 06-13-2006, 05:48 PM

I'd swear the guys rolling over were Germans. That's what they teach us here. We even use a German word for 'diving'.

saldana · 06-13-2006, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar

1-0 brazil

thanks ss

Critch · 06-13-2006, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6I22o2-fJgY

How it was done?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hb2h...ter%20football

Critch · 06-13-2006, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

I'd swear the guys rolling over were Germans. That's what they teach us here. We even use a German word for 'diving'.

Do they use a Dutch word for spitting at players then?

MJ4H · 06-13-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jari Rantanen's Shorts

I'm not sure if it were overtly stated (RPI would likely have done so if anyone

) but it is implicit in the defence of USA as a top 5 or even top 10 nation - my take is that a top 5 side or top 10 ten side has the right the think that they could win the WC: therefore if people believe the former I assume they believe the latter.

So no, maybe it wasn't explicity written, but it was implicit in the arguments as I read them

I didn't see anyone defending the top 5 rating either (again, I'm not speaking of here specifically--someone may have done it here; I mean in general). I just did not see the expectations being set as high as you apparently did. I saw people ASKING "can the USA repeat their amazing 02 performance? And going on to talk about how the squad is much improved from that one (which is true in most people's opinion in terms of skill and ability). It's not a big deal, I am basically responding to what I found surprising, which is that there were expectations as opposed to just curiosity and hope or even optimism. I don't think I can name one single person that thinks or thought prior to the match that the USA has the potential to be a serious contender towin this World Cup tournament.

Speaking of things I had not heard of, can anyone tell me if this thing I keep hearing about Landon Donovan urinating on the field at Azteca is true? And did he predict a USA win and Mexico defeat in their openers of the WC? I have heard this a lot from some Mexican people on another site I frequent, but they are unable to cite sources. I had not heard of this either (I do live in the USA and soccer news is not exactly front page here).

GoldenEagle · 06-13-2006, 07:59 PM

I do not think any knowledgeable soccer fan in the US actually thought that we were a top 5 international side. I think we are in the top 15.

saldana · 06-13-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MattJones4Heisman

Speaking of things I had not heard of, can anyone tell me if this thing I keep hearing about Landon Donovan urinating on the field at Azteca is true? And did he predict a USA win and Mexico defeat in their openers of the WC? I have heard this a lot from some Mexican people on another site I frequent, but they are unable to cite sources. I had not heard of this either (I do live in the USA and soccer news is not exactly front page here).

pretty sure the urinating part is true...there was a line about it in last weeks sports illustrated as a reason the mexicans dont like us. (soccer-wise)

MrBug708 · 06-13-2006, 09:05 PM

He did on a bush outside.

Mexico hates Cobi Jones much, much more then they hate Donovan

Crapshoot · 06-13-2006, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

I do not think any knowledgeable soccer fan in the US actually thought that we were a top 5 international side. I think we are in the top 15.

Not to be harsh, but I disagree with this - I put the US in the 25-30 range - conceding that no 10 can lose to no 30 on a given day. The lack of any star quality is one of the reasons I feel that way.

Vinatieri for Prez · 06-14-2006, 02:16 AM

USA is a second tier soccer nation, lumped in with numerous teams that on any given day can beat a top tier team, but on most days will not, and also is susceptible to being beaten by a third tier team on any given day.

Second tier teams never win the World Cup. They sometimes make the semi-final when the planets align just right.

MrBug708 · 06-14-2006, 02:28 AM

Personally speaking, if the planets ever align, it would preferably benefit me in the form of winning the lottery or nailing Eva Longoria. Or some would say the second is basically the first.

Vinatieri for Prez · 06-14-2006, 02:33 AM

My appreciation for Ms. Longoria has been growing recently.

Vinatieri for Prez · 06-14-2006, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icy

. . . if soccer keeps getting played more and more in the USA, with colleges giving already scholarships, etc etc USA will become a superpower in the next 10 years. . . .but i see USA winning the WC in the future, and the MLS as the top worldwide league.

This will simply not happen (and definitely NOT in 10 years). As long as the top 99 percent of its athletes opt for basketball, baseball, football, etc. the U.S. will NEVER win the World Cup or become a superpower. That's not really a negative because I would say that about 95% of the national teams in the world. The U.S. lacks one very important ingredient: passion for the sport in the country as a whole.

MIJB#19 · 06-14-2006, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Critch

Do they use a Dutch word for spitting at players then?

I thought spitting was Italian.

But I bet the Germans refer to spitting as Rijkaarding or something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

I do not think any knowledgeable soccer fan in the US actually thought that we were a top 5 international side. I think we are in the top 15.

Wow, it takes some guts to admit that your are not a knowledgeable soccer fan.

Narcizo · 06-14-2006, 03:58 AM

I thought Brazil played pretty well considering they only had 10 players for the majority of the match. However did Dida have some sort of mystical ball-attracting device? Every Croatian shot went straight at him.

Anyway the Croats showed that it's possible to beat the Brazilians. (Particularly if they persist in playing a patently disinterested Ronaldo). Then again the Belgiums showed that last time as well. It's just no-one managed it.

Desnudo · 06-14-2006, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinatieri for Prez

This will simply not happen (and definitely NOT in 10 years). As long as the top 99 percent of its athletes opt for basketball, baseball, football, etc. the U.S. will NEVER win the World Cup or become a superpower. That's not really a negative because I would say that about 95% of the national teams in the world. The U.S. lacks one very important ingredient: passion for the sport in the country as a whole.

I think you're being overly pessimistic. A great amount of excellent athletes play soccer until a certain age and then quit. Granted, I doubt we'll see 11 Ray Lewis' knocking the ball around, but I think that players like Eddie Johnson will become the norm. Big (for a soccer player), fast, strong and technically adept. American athlete training is second to none and as more and more players move overseas, it will become a financial alternative to playing another sport here.

Passion will be an issue, but that's a problem in all US international sports these days. Just look at the Winter Olympics or the last US basketball team performance in the Summer.

law90026 · 06-14-2006, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desnudo

I think you're being overly pessimistic. A great amount of excellent athletes play soccer until a certain age and then quit. Granted, I doubt we'll see 11 Ray Lewis' knocking the ball around, but I think that players like Eddie Johnson will become the norm. Big (for a soccer player), fast, strong and technically adept. American athlete training is second to none and as more and more players move overseas, it will become a financial alternative to playing another sport here.

Passion will be an issue, but that's a problem in all US international sports these days. Just look at the Winter Olympics or the last US basketball team performance in the Summer.

I think the issue is that most American high-school athletes tend to do multiple sports and the favourite sports will tend to be the American sports.

Most soccer players that play professionally dedicate themselves to soccer exclusively from a relatively young age. Don't get me wrong, these guys are athletes as well (Ryan Giggs was really good at rugby if I recall correctly) but they really only train in soccer from a certain point on.

Also, and this is personal opinion, the other issue may be that American athletes have various avenues to get "rich". For European soccer players, they don't really have that option to play in other sports and so it's all or nothing sometimes.

Marc Vaughan · 06-14-2006, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinatieri for Prez

USA is a second tier soccer nation, lumped in with numerous teams that on any given day can beat a top tier team, but on most days will not, and also is susceptible to being beaten by a third tier team on any given day.

Second tier teams never win the World Cup. They sometimes make the semi-final when the planets align just right.

Heh - don't be so pessimistic ... it wasn't long ago that people said similar things about Greece not having a chance of winning the European Championships ...

(that being said I don't think anyone outside of the 'first tier' will win the cup this year)

PS> I personally think the eventual winner will at least partially be determined by the weather in Germany, if it remains extremely hot then it'll be a country who are used to playing in the heat - if it rains and cools down then it'll be a european side, at the moment you can see most Euro sides wilting in the heat to at least some extent imho ...

KeyserSoze · 06-14-2006, 06:20 AM

One thought. I believe the us soccer is too "americanized". I mean. In baseball, in football there's always a coach saying what you have to do the next. Each play of each game is coached. Even in basketball, the players are "outcoached", with subs and timeouts.

In soccer the players are 45 minutes with the minimal hints of the coachs. All is more on the hands and the improvisation of the players. The other day I see the US team no without passion but without imagination to try other things.

Of course well coachs and a good physical are importants in the soccer. But the real talents come from playing. For better of worse I can't see any multi-athlete being a great soccer-player.

Critch · 06-14-2006, 08:24 AM

Spain always look good on paper but fail to look good on the pitch in the World Cup. So far it looks like they've worked out how to look good on both.

MIJB#19 · 06-14-2006, 08:49 AM

Ukraine is looking aweful today. I know, they're usually a counter attack team, but Spain is steam rolling over them righ now. It could very well end up 4-0 for Spain if the guys in yellow can't improve their play.

MIJB#19 · 06-14-2006, 09:05 AM

What the...? Red card? Penalty kick? For that!?

Critch · 06-14-2006, 09:06 AM

Ooooh, terrible decision.

First penalty kick of the World Cup, I think.

MIJB#19 · 06-14-2006, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Critch

Ooooh, terrible decision.

First penalty kick of the World Cup, I think.

Yeah, first penalty kick and also the first direct red card of the tournament.

Dunleavy · 06-14-2006, 09:40 AM

goal of the tournament by Spain on 80 minutes, it was an stunning team goal set up by center back Pauol and finished infactically by Torres.

Spainish most impressive, 4 nil

MIJB#19 · 06-14-2006, 09:51 AM

It's too easy to blame it all on the referee...

Critch · 06-14-2006, 09:53 AM

I know a few people who have money riding on there being 5 or less penalty kicks during regular time in the World Cup. That decision wasn't a good one for them

cartman · 06-14-2006, 09:53 AM

// sarcasm

Woo hoo! Finally, someone suffered a worse loss than the US! We've moved up to 31/32.

//

Icy · 06-14-2006, 10:12 AM

Awesome game from us, i really hope that we can keep playing at this level.

Spain always had the players quality but always lacked teamwork and specially sacrifice. Today they put both plus the players quality and playing that way nobody can beat us. The key is that we brought to the WC a really young team and they fought the full 90 minutes as it must be done.

Incredible game by Fernando "El niño" Torres, he showed his great speed and skills. Also wingback Pujol had a great game and he was who created the last goal chance, a really beautiful teamwork one. I liked a lot too the midfield control by Xavi, spreading the ball to the wingers and leading our attack.

About the penalty i agree, it shouldn't have been called. The defender pulled him from the pants, but not enought to bring him down.

It's a really happy day in Spain, lots of ppl is partying in the street already in Madrid, the capital city ,where some huge screens were placed in one of the biggest squares for the citizens to watch the game.

BreizhManu · 06-14-2006, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icy

It's a really happy day in Spain, lots of ppl is partying in the street already in Madrid, the capital city ,where some huge screens were placed in one of the biggest squares for the citizens to watch the game.

While in Barcelona, it's quiet

sovereignstar · 06-14-2006, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I thought Brazil played pretty well considering they only had 10 players for the majority of the match.

Did I miss something or are you being sarcastic?

06-13-2006, 01:19 PM	#751
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	If I remember correctly, that's one of the old-timers, Beckenbauer or maybe Platini that you mean... it's like if a football fantasy pick'em a little kid would select Unitas or Tarkenton as QB. __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC!

06-13-2006, 02:03 PM	#753
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06-13-2006, 02:04 PM	#754
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	The player mentioned, Franz Beckenbauer, is one of those players that played in the 1970's., (that's early 70's footage of him trotting on to the field) From Wikipedia Franz Beckenbauer (born September 11, 1945) is a famous German football player, coach and manager, nicknamed der Kaiser ("the emperor") because of his elegant style, his leadership qualities and his domination on the football pitch. started his playing career at the age of 9 with the youth team of SC Munich '06 in 1954. He joined the Bayern Munich youth team in 1958 at the age of fourteen. He made his debut with Bayern in the Regionalliga Süd (Regional League South) on the left wing against FC St. Pauli on 6th June 1964. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

06-13-2006, 02:48 PM	#756
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	Cracking game so far. __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC!

06-13-2006, 03:53 PM	#760
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	Amazing support for the Croatians, they are proud of their team, and rightly so. __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC!

06-13-2006, 01:20 PM	#752
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Okay...then why do the players have to tell the fat kid who to pick, right after that? Can he only name 4 players or something?

06-13-2006, 03:04 PM	#757
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Beckenbauer and Platini are probably on a list of the top 15 players of all time - they were that good. Platini is probably second only to Zidane in terms of French players historically.

06-13-2006, 03:46 PM	#759
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Nice flares...

06-13-2006, 04:00 PM	#761
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Imagine the team Yugoslavia could have fielded, since both Croatia and Serbia qualified. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

06-13-2006, 04:20 PM	#763
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	Bad game from Basil, they were lucky that Croatia didn't have any real striker. __________________

06-13-2006, 05:30 PM	#766
Huckleberry College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRO62...occer%20diving Intentionally mislabeled, of course, but I hadn't seen it. __________________ The one thing all your failed relationships have in common is you. The Barking Carnival (Longhorn-centered sports blog) College Football Adjusted Stats and Ratings

06-13-2006, 05:31 PM	#767
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Oh, that is good.

06-13-2006, 05:45 PM	#768
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	can i get a brasil score, i didnt see any of the game (stuck at work)

06-13-2006, 05:46 PM	#769
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	1-0 brazil

06-13-2006, 05:48 PM	#770
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	I'd swear the guys rolling over were Germans. That's what they teach us here. We even use a German word for 'diving'. __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

06-13-2006, 07:59 PM	#775
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I do not think any knowledgeable soccer fan in the US actually thought that we were a top 5 international side. I think we are in the top 15. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

06-13-2006, 09:05 PM	#777
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	He did on a bush outside. Mexico hates Cobi Jones much, much more then they hate Donovan

06-14-2006, 02:16 AM	#779
Vinatieri for Prez College Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle	USA is a second tier soccer nation, lumped in with numerous teams that on any given day can beat a top tier team, but on most days will not, and also is susceptible to being beaten by a third tier team on any given day. Second tier teams never win the World Cup. They sometimes make the semi-final when the planets align just right. Last edited by Vinatieri for Prez : 06-14-2006 at 02:17 AM.

06-14-2006, 02:28 AM	#780
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Personally speaking, if the planets ever align, it would preferably benefit me in the form of winning the lottery or nailing Eva Longoria. Or some would say the second is basically the first.

06-14-2006, 02:33 AM	#781
Vinatieri for Prez College Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle	My appreciation for Ms. Longoria has been growing recently.

06-14-2006, 03:58 AM	#784
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I thought Brazil played pretty well considering they only had 10 players for the majority of the match. However did Dida have some sort of mystical ball-attracting device? Every Croatian shot went straight at him. Anyway the Croats showed that it's possible to beat the Brazilians. (Particularly if they persist in playing a patently disinterested Ronaldo). Then again the Belgiums showed that last time as well. It's just no-one managed it.

06-14-2006, 06:20 AM	#788
KeyserSoze H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Spain	One thought. I believe the us soccer is too "americanized". I mean. In baseball, in football there's always a coach saying what you have to do the next. Each play of each game is coached. Even in basketball, the players are "outcoached", with subs and timeouts. In soccer the players are 45 minutes with the minimal hints of the coachs. All is more on the hands and the improvisation of the players. The other day I see the US team no without passion but without imagination to try other things. Of course well coachs and a good physical are importants in the soccer. But the real talents come from playing. For better of worse I can't see any multi-athlete being a great soccer-player.

06-14-2006, 08:24 AM	#789
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	Spain always look good on paper but fail to look good on the pitch in the World Cup. So far it looks like they've worked out how to look good on both.

06-14-2006, 08:49 AM	#790
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Ukraine is looking aweful today. I know, they're usually a counter attack team, but Spain is steam rolling over them righ now. It could very well end up 4-0 for Spain if the guys in yellow can't improve their play. __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

06-14-2006, 09:05 AM	#791
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	What the...? Red card? Penalty kick? For that!? __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

06-14-2006, 09:06 AM	#792
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	Ooooh, terrible decision. First penalty kick of the World Cup, I think.

06-14-2006, 09:40 AM	#794
Dunleavy High School JV Join Date: Sep 2004	goal of the tournament by Spain on 80 minutes, it was an stunning team goal set up by center back Pauol and finished infactically by Torres. Spainish most impressive, 4 nil

06-14-2006, 09:51 AM	#795
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	It's too easy to blame it all on the referee... __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

06-14-2006, 09:53 AM	#796
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	I know a few people who have money riding on there being 5 or less penalty kicks during regular time in the World Cup. That decision wasn't a good one for them

06-14-2006, 09:53 AM	#797
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	// sarcasm Woo hoo! Finally, someone suffered a worse loss than the US! We've moved up to 31/32. // __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint Last edited by cartman : 06-14-2006 at 09:55 AM.

06-14-2006, 10:12 AM	#798
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	Awesome game from us, i really hope that we can keep playing at this level. Spain always had the players quality but always lacked teamwork and specially sacrifice. Today they put both plus the players quality and playing that way nobody can beat us. The key is that we brought to the WC a really young team and they fought the full 90 minutes as it must be done. Incredible game by Fernando "El niño" Torres, he showed his great speed and skills. Also wingback Pujol had a great game and he was who created the last goal chance, a really beautiful teamwork one. I liked a lot too the midfield control by Xavi, spreading the ball to the wingers and leading our attack. About the penalty i agree, it shouldn't have been called. The defender pulled him from the pants, but not enought to bring him down. It's a really happy day in Spain, lots of ppl is partying in the street already in Madrid, the capital city ,where some huge screens were placed in one of the biggest squares for the citizens to watch the game. __________________ Last edited by Icy : 06-14-2006 at 10:13 AM.

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