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Or he could be lying about part of it.. ie: usually doing a role reveal gets you killed that night by the others, and saying he can't be killed easily then makes them think twice before targeting him. It seems common in these games that the wolves take out the veterans not on their side early on as they provide the most direction, and Blade would likely normally be a day 1 through 5 target I am guessing unless he ended up with heat on him. |
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02-13-2006, 08:21 AM | #756 | |
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I have no idea Never seen the show. |
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02-13-2006, 08:23 AM | #758 | |
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I don't think Mr. W would still be alive today. I think he was 'jailed' just to get us guessing. The fact that post #1 says he was lynched tells me he died because we voted for it. |
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02-13-2006, 08:25 AM | #759 | |
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It is still unclear what the black smoke is. The securty system idea is something I hadn't considered about it before seeing it mentioned in this thread. As far as I remember, it is still unclear what exactly the smoke is according to the show. |
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02-13-2006, 08:33 AM | #760 |
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Just a morning update, with a little over 12 hours till lynch:
Pennywise 3 (Blade, mckerney, Hoops) Spleen 1 (Raiders) Raiders 1 (Spleen) Mckerney 1 (Alan T) |
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Maybe. The jailor pans out - the security system in the show has nothing at all to do with the jail that camp 2 dug out. The security system is apparently (I say apparently because in the show it's not really been figured out) guarding the island or the interior of the island. It may or may not be associated with the hatches; may or may not be associated with the others. It's been aggressive (killing the pilot while stationary... well, up in a tree at least), forgiving (staring Locke/Eko in the face and letting them go), and has changed its "mind" at least one (leaving Locke once, going after him a second time). |
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Yep. The smoke is not known to be the security system. That is just a theory so far. The show has not made it clear exactly what the smoke is. It does seem clear, however, that the smoke isn't on anybody's side at this point. |
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02-13-2006, 08:52 AM | #763 | |
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I agree with some of the points you make, it's something I've been mulling over. He comes out with information that he could only get through a special role, and if true is unverfiable because it requires others to come out and reveal their special role. Also, if the fact that it's bad for the others to attack him is true, it's not benficial to give away. According to what he said his role is, if he comes out and says he's some kind of seer and they attack him, the worst thing that happens is he dies and one or two of the others die, though there's a 4 in 5 chance that what ends up happening. Honestly, I'm still not sure what to think about all of this. |
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ok, this whole security system thing is gonna take me a while to mull over before i decide what i think...i have to do some show research i think.
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You are one of the two key votes that got a special villager killed yesterday then come out firing against me today...odd?
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I want to survive...i die, i dont win...i live, i have a shot at winning...im going to do what it takes to win(and that means me alive to do it)
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hey celeval, want me to give you a big helping hand in your understanding of all this?
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I'm hardly coming out firing, just trying to decide what I think about the claims that you've made. |
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Thats ok with me, as you are on my slight distrust list right now as well, after your flip flop off of king to Mr. W on day 1. I try not to base too much on day 1 votes, but also on the actions thereafter. You have been providing alot of valuable information since that vote, some of which I have used to form opinions about others so I'm not hard lined against you. I'm just a little curious to what you were up to on day 1 still. I don't really have any feel for Desnudo so far, but I still think people haven't convinced me about pennywise who you seem to have a strong distrust for. No one has been able to come and give me a reason why penny is any more non-trustworthy right now than Raiders is. From what I could see Penny, Raiders and Blade all made a similar action, since that time Blade had his reveal which probably takes him off of lynch lists unless you just flat out dont believe him. That leaves Penny and Raiders, of whom I honestly thought Penny gave a better explanation than Raiders did, and Raiders has had absolutely 0 heat so far. Right now all I see is Penny is being singled out on a gut feel, a bandwagon has formed, and there is very little competition so far on votes, which likely does not lead to anyone else slipping up or having to put themselves on the line for a vote that we can later use to try to judge them. |
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I'm beginning to put together a couple of theories on my own, but I'm always interested. What'dve you got? |
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2+2=? Im not going to connect the dots, but ill give nudges
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I've already been there. In fact, I think it implies something else about you, which if true I understand your not wanting to be straightforward about.
But just to make things interesting... Vote KWhit |
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What i have told you guys about my role is true. I know for sure a few know the rest of my role i havent said. Ive given you what i can, if you dont trust me then lynch me and lose a villager the wolves really shouldnt want to try and kill.
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If you're following this train of thought Blade, why are you voting for me? I SWITCHED OFF OF MR. W to preserve him. You've also stated in previous posts that my play has been very survivor-ish (I'm going to find the post now), yet you are still voting for me and have actually started a bandwagon in my direction. It makes no sense to me.
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Bah! Knowing for sure that KWhit is a survivor, this vote bothers me. The only conclusion I draw is that you're an 'other'. If you weren't why would you vote for him? He's a good guy. |
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Either way, i think his vote was intended to create a closer vote then it was
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no, thats what I have been trying to say. I don't understand the run on penny. He tied it up with king and Mr. W. Afterwhich hoops untied it by switching. In my mind, I dont know that penny is innocent, but alot of people seem more suspicious to me than him right now. |
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I have the same strong conviction that hoops is a good guy as I have with KWhit. They both have raised the same red flag identifying themselves as surviviors to me. Maybe it is you that is the bad guy...? Hell, we're probably way off, going down the wrong road. Maybe Blade is a bad guy, telling us all of this stuff to save his arse. |
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ok, i cant decide what to make of blade at this point, but there is one thing that i am pretty sure about.
vote celeval i would prefer not to explain in depth, but his behavior bothers me significantly enough for me to believe he is an other. |
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I'm not going to be terribly active in this thread until I get home from work but I'm sneaking a peek when I get a chance.
Pennywise, I'm not confident you are an other. I'm less than 50% sure of you. But if I'm going along with Blade's idea that there was an "other" vote on King, then there are only three people to look at: Blade, Raiders, and you. And I'm less confident in you than I am in the other two. Am I sure that is the right direction to look at today? Nope, not at all. But it is where I'm sitting for now until something better comes along. In terms of following Blade, I diverged from him in a pretty big way when I switched my vote on Day 1. I'm not particularly happy with the results from Day 1 right now, particularly with my vote playing a (perhaps "the" is more appropriate) signifiant role in the Mr. W lynch, but anyone who says that I'm blindly following Blade is off-base. I have no role-based allegiances, unless I know with 100% certainty that someone is a survivor. Celeval, I'm pretty darn close to that 100% threshold on KWhit. If you are a survivor I would hope that you would look elsewhere for your vote today. |
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Blade mentioned this either yesterday, or saturday, and I thought it was pretty convenient as far as trying to get me lynched. Basically he's stating that I have done nothing but solid villager moves, but because of that, I'm suspicious. It seems pretty hard for me to argue or persuade him in this matter when he feels this way. I just hope the rest of the survivors don't subscribe to this train of thought because if I'm lynched, we'll be another survivor down with not awhole lot else to go on in the future.
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Blade in case this helps, this is day1
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Blade has 26% of the posts in this thread. Sheesh!
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finally got caught up from my last reading on pg 11. 5 pages is a bit much. I can see people getting lost and not caught up. I'll post some thoughts in a moment.
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See, that's the difference - I don't know for sure he's a survivor. If there's a red flag in his posts so far, then I've missed it. I do see a common thread in some things, and understand that, but it doesn't match up with what I got in my PM. There's even some different terminology. I don't know whether it was AE not being careful with the wordings he used; or if there were specifically chosen things that are different - but from my POV, there's something different there. I was on the plane. I survived the crash, in one of the two sections. I don't know anyone else for sure... but there are a small group of people at this point who are very confident - to the point of 100% - of each other. At that point, I have to ask why. Either there's something shared between them, out of the original PMs, that confirms it to each other... if so, then it's not in mine, or I haven't noticed it... or there's another reason for them to be so supportive of each other. Could mean the group is Others, but I don't know if thats subtle enough. Could be that there is a pre-existing relationship between some of the survivors, and those survivors know who the other half of their pair is - Ana Lucia & Jack, Boone & Shannon, the marshall & Kate, etc. I threw out KWhit because he had 100% backing from someone, and I don't know or trust why. |
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I'm not ready to say anything more than I have. I'm not ready to lose the small advantage I think I have. I've said it a couple of times that I am confident that KWhit and hoops are survivors. You're on the right track with what you are saying though and I will reveal my info soon enough, unless someone beats me to it or figures it out. |
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What's the earliest a wolf has been killed? I am hoping we're able to get rid of one today.
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Day 1. But that usually involved either luck or a night 0 with other luck |
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Are you saying that you have in-game knowledge of 2 sections of the plane? That could be important. Or were you just including some of your knowledge from the show? There has been nothing that I have seen to suggest that there are 2 sections in this game (not saying it's not true, just wondering how this might all fit in-game). |
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