11-09-2020, 10:33 AM | #7751 | |
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Unfortunately nothing is 'official' yet. Trump team will argue that media projections are not official pronouncement of a new President and therefore they don't need to start transition protocols, esp when there are lawsuits filed - and they would be right.
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11-09-2020, 10:33 AM | #7752 |
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11-09-2020, 10:44 AM | #7753 |
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Yup. Technically, Biden isn't the President-Elect yet. All of the things like a concession speech, White House visit with the outgoing, and working together on the transition are non-codified traditions that have been dependent on having Presidents who cared about America, the peaceful transition of power, etc. There are things we're used to seeing happen as part of the transition that this scumbag simply won't do, and there's not really anything that can be done about it if Trump wants to be a jackass about it all.
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11-09-2020, 10:49 AM | #7754 |
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I wonder if Trump will do the traditional letter to the incoming President in the Oval Office, and if so what it will say?
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11-09-2020, 10:52 AM | #7755 |
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11-09-2020, 11:00 AM | #7756 | |
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What was possible was a much more narrow intervention than what that Facebook rant suggests. I think there was a risk of absentee votes received after Nov 3 being thrown out and possibly unsegregated absentee ballots being used as a predicate for throwing out more votes. What won't happen is throwing out all fraudulent votes. What does that even mean?
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11-09-2020, 11:16 AM | #7757 |
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To an all-too-large segment of the right, it's axiomatic that thousands upon thousands of illegal aliens, dead people, and people who live in other states vote fraudulently in every state. That was the case before this election cycle. Having a President who is "validating" that is truly awful.
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11-09-2020, 11:19 AM | #7758 |
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Any recent info on Arizona? I know the election is called but having another state solidifies things that much more.
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11-09-2020, 11:20 AM | #7759 | |
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One good outcome of vetting the legal challenges (in addition to eliminating many/most of the conspiracy theories) is it will make us do this better next time. I am sure there are some "discrepancies/issues" and identifying them in 2020 will let me mitigate them in 2024, essentially lessons learn. |
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11-09-2020, 11:35 AM | #7760 |
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lol
The Michigan Court of Appeals rejected Trump's filing because it was defective. Real legal All-Stars working for him.
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11-09-2020, 11:43 AM | #7761 | |
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According to this: Election 2020 Results Arizon's last drop was 17 hours ago. ~17k lead with 81k left to count. |
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11-09-2020, 11:57 AM | #7762 | |
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It's already been dubunked no? I thought one was a clerical error where the guy had the same name as his father and lived at the same address, and the clerk had entered it incorrectly. I was reading that like 75% of the ones examined were not true (dead people did not vote) and other 25% were things like above where somebody has a same name/address.
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11-09-2020, 12:00 PM | #7763 |
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There just aren't that many people who are willing to risk a felony to add one or two extra votes...
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11-09-2020, 12:38 PM | #7764 | |
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I hope so, I didn't see any that were discussed in that article with the same name as the one I saw. And of course, they're saying they have lots of them, not just one or two. The fact that they haven't shown one bit of proof yet is telling though.
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11-09-2020, 12:59 PM | #7765 |
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If you're the sort of person who reads YouTube comments, watching folks turn their back on Fox News is fascinating.
I expect to see breaking news that Tucker Carlson and Hannity have resigned to accept positions with Newsmax any time now. Makes me wonder if I could get elected to congress in Indiana running on the single-issue platform of abolishing Fox News...because at this moment, it seems to be the one thing everyone in the country agrees on. |
11-09-2020, 01:08 PM | #7766 | |
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Another one i saw as an explanation (not for actually dead people but 120 year old people) and which i know as a decently common one from first hand experience working at places with data input of personal Info: software putting 1901 DOBs as default and not have it start blank when making a new entry or clerks changing it/having to change it by cursor (not typing). Make enough entries and you are bound to forget to change it or save your changes. Now i don't know what systems are used at clerks Offices, but i'd wager not all are state of the Art and mistake proof while being manned by super attentive people at all times.
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11-09-2020, 01:34 PM | #7767 | |
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This has always been it. How many people could you get to do a ballot fraud scheme? There certainly wouldn't be enough to swing a national election.
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11-09-2020, 01:53 PM | #7768 | |
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I have a relative who's legit arguing that nobody would risk a felony to steal a Senate election because a) it's a felony and b) trying to steal a Senate election on top of a Presidential election is "getting greedy and that's how you get caught." Never fucking MIND that the level of complexity needed to steal an election for national office is at least an order of magnitude greater than the same scheme for statewide office, assuming you even COULD. It's...the cognitive dissonance in the "Trump is being cheated" crowd is mind-blowing. |
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11-09-2020, 02:19 PM | #7769 | |
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Nice timing.
Were Carson and him at the same gathering? Quote:
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11-09-2020, 02:20 PM | #7770 |
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It's going to end up being a few hundred thousand votes. How would you ever get that to happen one ballot at a time?
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11-09-2020, 02:23 PM | #7771 |
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It's all Trump's party. Both GOP Senators in GA are demanding the GOP Sec. of State resign because he failed to deliver honest and transparent elections.
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11-09-2020, 02:27 PM | #7772 |
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And now McConnell is backing Trumpism that he should be able to exhaust the legal process before conceding and "the Constitution gives no role in this process of wealthy media corporations".
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11-09-2020, 02:33 PM | #7773 | |
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Well, it was a fun couple of days. I'm sure the next 4 years definitely won't be a partisan shitshow SI
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11-09-2020, 02:36 PM | #7774 |
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I keep thinking Quiksand is too pessimistic but the GOP actions are turning me into kombucha girl.
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11-09-2020, 02:42 PM | #7775 |
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Yeah the GOP as it was known is DOA. It is the Trump fascist party and democrats only.
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11-09-2020, 02:48 PM | #7776 |
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in all this circus i totally missed the fact that the Green Party candidate was Jesse "The Body" Ventura
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11-09-2020, 02:52 PM | #7777 |
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And in other comedy, the man in charge of challenging the results of the election has tested positive for coronavirus
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11-09-2020, 03:03 PM | #7778 | |
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Maybe also worth noting that this is the first presidential election where someone with a birth year starting with '20' could vote.
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11-09-2020, 03:11 PM | #7779 | |
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Only the for the Green Party of Alaska. Which is a separate thing for some reason. So he was only on the ballot there. And this was done without his consent. https://mustreadalaska.com/green-par...for-president/ Last edited by molson : 11-09-2020 at 03:12 PM. |
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11-09-2020, 03:17 PM | #7780 | |
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11-09-2020, 03:19 PM | #7781 |
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It's amazing to me that is legal.
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11-09-2020, 03:22 PM | #7782 |
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Hmm I wonder if I'm on any ballots anywhere
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11-09-2020, 03:37 PM | #7783 |
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Brb, going to put JIMG on the Democratic Socialists of America ballot.
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11-09-2020, 03:41 PM | #7784 | |
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Don't tempt me to break my anti-third party pledge.
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11-09-2020, 03:45 PM | #7785 |
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So North Carolina is kind of weird, right? I know that they are waiting for military votes (I think tomorrow is the last day)? But they seemed to stop counting on Wednesday - it's been at 98% and 75k advantage for Trump for days. Are they just waiting until the military votes to count all the remaining absentees?
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11-09-2020, 03:58 PM | #7786 |
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Sharing this then taking a politics break. This shit gets me too worked up.
Shocked that Fox is doing this.
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11-09-2020, 04:06 PM | #7787 |
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Still think that's a dangerous precedent to set. The people should be making the decision who to believe, not the media.
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11-09-2020, 04:08 PM | #7788 |
This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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11-09-2020, 04:08 PM | #7789 | |
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They're almost behaving like a credible new organization for small parts of their day. Maybe they're trying to carve out a center right niche because they know that when Trump TV comes online, they're losing all a huge chunk of the crazy demographic SI
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11-09-2020, 04:10 PM | #7790 | |
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I read a quote that she said she was holding the PC in her personal capacity.
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11-09-2020, 04:11 PM | #7791 |
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Also, the specific examples of NV fraud they brought forth were military family members who had been transferred out of state and legally voted in their home state of NV.
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11-09-2020, 04:12 PM | #7792 |
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This isn't good. The GOP seems to be quickly becoming more radical about the election.
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11-09-2020, 04:12 PM | #7793 | |
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I assume this is just some sort of putting the thumbs on the scale for the runoff or putting their person in place, right? SI
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11-09-2020, 04:17 PM | #7794 |
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Taking cues from Trump about saying the quiet part out loud.
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11-09-2020, 04:21 PM | #7795 |
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Let's not pretend this isn't too late by years. Too many people kept treating this whole thing like a variance of normal. A shitty variance you took offense in (or not), but still. The media reporting on it all like it was actually an ongoing democratic process that merely was a bit more "partisan" or "combative" or "dishonest" than usual is part of the reason why large swaths of the country could talk themselves into thinking people were merely mad at Trump or Republican policy.
Even the last few days and weeks (even here) people kept going with "that surely can't happen" rationality. About half the folks in the poll expected some form of a normal transition after a bit of squabbling. Because he's still a President, not some autocratic leader in Belorussia. When the only difference is oportunity, not motivation/morals. Enter a system based on the understanding that both sides respect tradition and the process. Yeah, right ... Stop pretending this will play out following any usual playbook. Stop saying "The White House" or "The President" as if it has any of the old meaning still attached. Or pretend these abominations are press Briefings. Makes me mad as hell, knowing there's a whole plethora of extremist politicians in Europe hoping like hell to emulate that when their time comes and enough folk have lowered their standards of what is normal.
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11-09-2020, 04:54 PM | #7796 |
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To my mind it isn't about treating it as normal. It's about respecting the will of the people. They elected this monstrosity. We shouldn't decide to not report on what's going on just because we don't like their choice. We wouldn't like it if they chose to treat Biden that way. Before Trump, nobody cut away from press briefings even when the guy up there was lying through his teeth. Every.Single.Word Nixon said was televised even when we knew it was hogwash, just to use a relatively dated and noncontroversial example. That didn't mean everybody thought it was ok - he was still forced out of office. He was, however, still the President.
It's just like that old saying in my business: 'The customer is not always right, but they are always the customer'. Same with whoever holds high federal office, regardless of what they do. |
11-09-2020, 04:58 PM | #7797 | |
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Lot of people have been calling them what they are for awhile, fascists. Just seeing it up close now. Short term it appears our systems will hold up. But it's going to be odd when in a two-party system, one doesn't believe in democracy. |
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11-09-2020, 05:08 PM | #7798 | |
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Reporting on sth and broadcasting sth are not in fact the same thing as i see it. I realise this is american tradition, but lot of that being disregarded the last few years. He's elected President, not Host of a TV live act. His press secretary is there to inform media, media is there to report on what she's saying. Not merely document what she is saying.
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11-09-2020, 05:10 PM | #7799 |
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That's true, but IMO besides the point. Is it ok for a news network to not broadcast a Biden press conference because they think what he's saying isn't true? Is it the job of the news media to tell people what to think, or to report the news and let people decide for themselves? Remember we're talking specifically about news media here, not editorials/talking heads.
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11-09-2020, 05:26 PM | #7800 |
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My wife's FB feed is just a steady stream of people posting their new Parler accounts.
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