Katrina hits Category 5. - Page 15

Buccaneer · 08-31-2005, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

After all the lawsuits are settled.

...and a recall effort against the Mayor.

JonInMiddleGA · 08-31-2005, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I hope other agencies are going to be rescuing people, but I'm glad to see something being done to stop those who are looting non-necessity items.

From what I understand, the feds,volunteers & the military are in the process of taking on the S&R roles in order to free up both police & national guard troops for getting the looting under control. That need appears to be growing pretty critical:

http://apnews.myway.com//article/200...D8CB55082.html
Managers at a nursing home were prepared to cope with the power outages and had enough food for days, but then the looting began. The home's bus driver was forced to surrender the vehicle to carjackers.

Bands of people drove by the nursing home, shouting to residents, "Get out!" Eighty residents, most of them in wheelchairs, were being evacuated to other nursing homes in the state.

"We had enough food for 10 days," said Peggy Hoffman, the home's executive director. "Now we'll have to equip our department heads with guns and teach them how to shoot."

I also believe, although it isn't being talked about in much more than hints right now, that there's a growing belief that the search & rescue phase is starting to transition into body recovery sooner rather than later.

Eaglesfan27 · 08-31-2005, 08:47 PM

The following link shows satellite imagery from around noon today, and I'm quite happy to say that my MIL and my place are two of the few dry areas in the town. If the looters can just be kept away, we might be in good shape..

However, my grandfather (wife's GF) has called the fire department and they say his house is almost under water in Kenner

(which it looks like on the satellite.)

Edit: Forgot the link:
http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/vid...ing_083105.wmv

Farrah Whitworth-Rahn · 08-31-2005, 09:05 PM

Ok I have to say this - the Governor of LA really irritates me. She needs to suck it up, and get her emotions in check. It really drives me nuts when female politicos act like a bunch of blubbering women.

JonInMiddleGA · 08-31-2005, 09:08 PM

Although I'm sure Sen.Landrieu (D-LA) will manage to tick me off royally at some time in the future, I thought she did a pretty good job on Larry King Live just now.

She basically said that everybody - Congressmen, Senators, the President, the Feds, the state government, the local sheriffs, the mayor & staff, basically Everybody - is doing every thing they can as fast as they can.

She mentioned that the military was coming, adding a "hurry" to the end of it, but I really didn't get the feeling even that was a slam about their timeline, just an honest plea for the help they can bring. She also mentioned that her brother, the Lt. Governor (I don't think I realized they were related) had spent the past two days recovering bodies & helping with rescues, came across not as a "oh what a great guy my brother" but more like "My God, the Lt.Governor of a state is out there in a rowboat, if we're doing that don't you think we're doing everything humanly possible?"

She appeared to me to be taking the high road tonight, didn't try to score any political points nor make any political statements. She also scored high for getting visibly ticked off at Larry in an earlier segment.

I guess it just stood out to me because I'd just finished reading a piece on how strategists are already working on how to use Katrina against the President shortly & her performance was a pretty stark contrast vs what I'd read just minutes earlier. Props to her.

ScottVib · 08-31-2005, 09:12 PM

Reading one of the blogs at nola.com and you see more and more reports from hospitals that armed looters are breaking in and taking over the hospitals.

Sad.

miami_fan · 08-31-2005, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

Ok I have to say this - the Governor of LA really irritates me. She needs to suck it up, and get her emotions in check. It really drives me nuts when female politicos act like a bunch of blubbering women.

I can't blame the female politicos. I have seen and heard more men crying over this on radio, TV, and on the phone (military friends who are have been called up) than any other event outside of 9/11

Masked · 08-31-2005, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottVib

Reading one of the blogs at nola.com and you see more and more reports from hospitals that armed looters are breaking in and taking over the hospitals.

Sad.

At the very least, the initial report of looters breaking in to Children's Hospital were completely false. The staff at the hospital apparently had to exert a lot of effort debunking that rumor today.

Hopefully, the other reports are also false; although, I fear conditions in the city tonight are going to be very bad.

Galaxy · 08-31-2005, 09:15 PM

This mean that a "Shoot to Kill" order is out on the looters then?

Galaxy · 08-31-2005, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

Ok I have to say this - the Governor of LA really irritates me. She needs to suck it up, and get her emotions in check. It really drives me nuts when female politicos act like a bunch of blubbering women.

Haven't watch her. Is she crying alot, flip-flopping?

Buccaneer · 08-31-2005, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

Ok I have to say this - the Governor of LA really irritates me. She needs to suck it up, and get her emotions in check. It really drives me nuts when female politicos act like a bunch of blubbering women.

I believe in the end, people are going say they (the governor and mayor) were constantly a day late and a dollar short. For example, the mandatory evac orders should have gone out the day before and that martial (<--- look, I can spell that right - unlike some of the news media) law should have been declared yesterday. Of course there were political, legal and cultural ramifications that kept things from happening quicker. Even Dr Maestri is alluding to that.

Buccaneer · 08-31-2005, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

This mean that a "Shoot to Kill" order is out on the looters then?

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I think the black civil liberty leaders will have the mayor crucified.

Farrah Whitworth-Rahn · 08-31-2005, 10:10 PM

Just saw on my local news here that two little boys, both 8 years old, saw the hurricane coverage on the news and wanted to help. They took their piggy banks down to the Salvation Army headquarters downtown and donated all their money. About $60 total.

Warm fuzzies.

CamEdwards · 08-31-2005, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I think the black civil liberty leaders will have the mayor crucified.

it comes down to this: what's more important to you, your integrity or your reputation afterwards.

Ksyrup · 08-31-2005, 10:18 PM

Can we merge this with the "people suck" thread? Fucking looters destroying their own communities. I hope they each catch some hideous disease as a result of running around town slogging through debris, waste, and whatever other biohazards are out there. Would be quite deserving.

Solecismic · 08-31-2005, 10:18 PM

I'm hating the politicizing of this from the media. I just watched Aaron "Smacky" Brown's report on CNN, and he's just itching to blame everything on Bush*.

He was interviewing correspondents, and asking very leading questions about the speed in which Washington has provided aid. He was clearly upset when one answered that the Guard was on the scene very quickly (Bush had signed the National Disaster declarations in advance to make that easier).

So then he asked if the "military" part of the Guard was on the scene fast enough (something the governor would have had to request) then encouraged speculation that perhaps it didn't because everyone's in Iraq.

Just disgusting. I know every news outlet does this, and CNN is no exception. I know Brown is one of the worst. But to use all this suffering to make your case against Bush should be beneath the network. Not so, I guess.

I feel like making fun of Brown's stupid toupee right now.

* standard disclaimer - I have never voted for anyone named Bush, nor did I support W.'s candadacy in 2000 or 2004.

Farrah Whitworth-Rahn · 08-31-2005, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

Just saw on my local news here that two little boys, both 8 years old, saw the hurricane coverage on the news and wanted to help. They took their piggy banks down to the Salvation Army headquarters downtown and donated all their money. About $60 total.

Warm fuzzies.

Actually, it looks like this news channel (Phoenix Channel 3) is running a telethon for the Salvation Army throughout their broadcast. They have news anchors answering phones during the breaks. How cool is that?

Do feel a tad guilty now for ragging on journalists earlier this afternoon.

Buccaneer · 08-31-2005, 10:24 PM

Something else crossed my mind while wwltv again. Knowing how much donations to Red Cross (and Salv Army) will go directly to helping, do you think it might be more cost beneficial for the Federal Govt to give some of their millions to them as well? Seems to me it could do a lot of good very quickly.

Farrah Whitworth-Rahn · 08-31-2005, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Something else crossed my mind while wwltv again. Knowing how much donations to Red Cross (and Salv Army) will go directly to helping, do you think it might be more cost beneficial for the Federal Govt to give some of their millions to them as well? Seems to me it could do a lot of good very quickly.

Wasn't there a controversy over how the Red Cross handled the 9/11 donations?

And as far as the Salvation Army goes - I can hear the ACLU lawyering up on that one now.

HomerJSimpson · 08-31-2005, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

The following link shows satellite imagery from around noon today, and I'm quite happy to say that my MIL and my place are two of the few dry areas in the town. If the looters can just be kept away, we might be in good shape..

However, my grandfather (wife's GF) has called the fire department and they say his house is almost under water in Kenner

(which it looks like on the satellite.)

Edit: Forgot the link:
http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/vid...ing_083105.wmv

Really? I was just told tonight that Kenner is in good shape, considering. I think maybe a certain lady is telling her daughter fairy tales so that she'll let her go back home (she is afraid she is losing too much Real Estate business. What Real Estate business?).

Buccaneer · 08-31-2005, 10:33 PM

That's a good point (from wwltv) in that the news have been dominated by the outlawness but there are much more good going with tremendous humanitarian efforts being performed by many. Wonder why we don't see more of this? Oh wait....

Dutch · 08-31-2005, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

That's a good point (from wwltv) in that the news have been dominated by the outlawness but there are much more good going with tremendous humanitarian efforts being performed by many. Wonder why we don't see more of this? Oh wait....

The local news here has been giving the local efforts a lot of press (because everybody is tuned in around here). But as for the national coverage? Of course, you go with what butters the bread...

Galaxy · 08-31-2005, 10:53 PM

And Nancy Grace is covering the Natalie-Aruba case. Kinda interesting.

clintl · 08-31-2005, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

And Nancy Grace is covering the Natalie-Aruba case. Kinda interesting.

What else would you want her doing? She has a specialty: court proceedings.

Tigercat · 08-31-2005, 11:01 PM

From what I've heard and seen Kenner has water problems all over. Its hard to tell how deep exactly though. It could just be a foot of water everywhere, it could be more. But the word was everything from the lake to the interstate had a good amount of water.

The only video evidence I saw of Jefferson Parish was a quick shot of what looked like Williams Blvd near the Treasure Chest under water(which obviously would be no surprise) and the often shown shot of Clerview Mall and Vets with water. Both shots it was hard to tell how much water exactly.

Eaglesfan27 · 08-31-2005, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerJSimpson

Really? I was just told tonight that Kenner is in good shape, considering. I think maybe a certain lady is telling her daughter fairy tales so that she'll let her go back home (she is afraid she is losing too much Real Estate business. What Real Estate business?).

My Grand Father (I love the guy and consider him my GF - he is really Mrs. Eaglesfan's GF - He is VERY colorful) is a retired fireman and has many friends that still serve. The information is very accurate. His home has between 8-10 feet of water in Kenner unfortunately

Jesse_Ewiak · 08-31-2005, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

That's a good point (from wwltv) in that the news have been dominated by the outlawness but there are much more good going with tremendous humanitarian efforts being performed by many. Wonder why we don't see more of this? Oh wait....

"It bleeds, it leads." In the end, people really don't care about the humanitarian mission, they want to see action, whether it's rescues or lootings. We're an ADD nation, and it needs to be exciting and dynamic to keep our attention for five seconds.

Arles · 08-31-2005, 11:20 PM

This is cool and I think more sports teams could help with this as well:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?...nfl&id=2148336

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Packers' team plane also carried supplies to South

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- The Green Bay Packers flew to Nashville on Wednesday for their final preseason game -- but only after loading the team airplane with generators and other emergency supplies to help victims of Hurricane Katrina.

Quarterback Brett Favre was among the Packers with relatives and friends in the Gulf Coast region that has been devastated by the hurricane.

Favre had the blessing of coach Mike Sherman to drive a truck with supplies to Hattiesburg, Miss., where his wife and children were at home, after the team got to Nashville. But with many of the roads in Mississippi impassable and the airports closed, Favre reconsidered.

For now, "what I've done is try to get the word out," he said.

Favre, with the help of equipment manager Red Batty, rounded up supplies, including generators, food and water, that were loaded onto the chartered plane.

"When we get to Nashville, there's going to be a guy who drives (the supplies) to Hattiesburg," Favre said after the team has a workout in the Don Hutson Center. "From there, hopefully, we can disperse this even further south."

"To think that we're going to try to play football and enjoy it, it's difficult.

Favre's childhood home in the Gulf Coast town of Kiln, Miss., was destroyed by the storm.

Wide receiver Javon Walker also was among the players profoundly affected by the disaster.

He said he received a phone call Wednesday morning from his mother. She informed him that his grandparents and two uncles can't be found in Moss Point, Miss., which is just outside Biloxi.

Walker's parents drove from their home in Texas to search for Lucille and Paul Goldsmith, both of whom are in their 80s, and their sons, Paul and Earl Goldsmith.

"Obviously, dealing with what they're going through, it puts a lot of things in perspective for me, as far as family and friends," Walker said. "I just want them to be safe because sometimes, you take for granted what our grandparents do for us.

"I'm just going to pray for them and hope that everything is OK."

With lines of communication wiped out, Packers linebacker Ray Thompson isn't sure how many of his family members are holding up.

Thompson's mother, grandmother and a number of aunts and cousins reside in various parts of battered New Orleans.

"I just can't watch the news. Everything is just bad news," Thompson said.

Tigercat · 08-31-2005, 11:22 PM

Where in Kenner is that EF? All my Aunts and Uncles and my Grandmother live in one little area of Kenner. They are on the West Esplanade side of Vintage(right off of Power), so I am hoping they didn't get 10 feet of water, but nothing short of no water in their homes would surpise me now.

Eaglesfan27 · 08-31-2005, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

Where in Kenner is that EF? All my Aunts and Uncles and my Grandmother live in one little area of Kenner. They are on the West Esplanade side of Vintage(right off of Power), so I am hoping they didn't get 10 feet of water, but nothing short of no water in their homes would surpise me now.

Mrs. Eaglesfan is already asleep, so I can't tell you exactly where they are at. However, I think they are west of Loyola. I know they are a little west and north of the Esplanade Mall. However, Mrs. Eaglesfan usually drives and I think she takes exit 221 (Loyola I believe) and we go a bit north and west from there.

Eaglesfan27 · 08-31-2005, 11:28 PM

Dola - Actually it is a fair distance north of I-10 (at least 2 miles) and is close to the lake. I know we pass some very nice houses on the right that I was considering as possible buys. We also were looking at some houses a bit further north of their place that were very close to the lake.

Tigercat · 08-31-2005, 11:37 PM

Ack yea, I am not too surprised that that area would be hit hard, unfortunately. As if sinking houses in Kenner weren't bad enough. I wonder what impact, if any, standing water for a long period of time will have on houses that are still sinking in that area? It can't be good.

dawgfan · 08-31-2005, 11:42 PM

I'm a bit surprised given the inevitable stories with a sports angle that I haven't seen any articles talking about the Manning family. I'm assuming Archie and his wife got out of town ahead of the hurricane, and maybe Peyton and Eli don't want to make a big deal out of their connection to New Orleans at the moment.

Doug5984 · 08-31-2005, 11:59 PM

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I'm a bit surprised given the inevitable stories with a sports angle that I haven't seen any articles talking about the Manning family. I'm assuming Archie and his wife got out of town ahead of the hurricane, and maybe Peyton and Eli don't want to make a big deal out of their connection to New Orleans at the moment.

I did see they interviewed Peyton on espn after the hurricane, but there are so many players from the New Orleans / South Mississippi area it would be hard to talk to them all...

Masked · 09-01-2005, 12:08 AM

These links may have already been posted, but they are some of the best images I have seen of the city.

Before: http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/k...h9_2004_dg.jpg

After: http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/k...31_2005_dg.jpg

The 17th St canal is on the left edge. You can see the breech about 1/6 from the top.

The older areas of the city are along the river and are dry. The French Quarter is in the lower right corner right at the big bend in the river.

The 9th ward is east of the image and is severely flooded, and uptown is south of the image and did not flood. The small bit of land in the very bottom right is the west bank which did not flood.

Kenner is significantly west of this image.

Galaxy · 09-01-2005, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by clintl

What else would you want her doing? She has a specialty: court proceedings.

You don't think she could talk about other things? She does also have a show on Court TV.

Masked · 09-01-2005, 12:12 AM

dola

On the left side near the center of the image you see a what appear to be many very small buildings. These are a couple of large cementaries with the above ground crypts.

Let me know if you would like any other landmarks pointed out.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 09-01-2005, 12:15 AM

Breaking News now: AOne of the buses that got to Houston WASN'T from the superdome!
As per CNN. Seems that it was commandeered from someplace. This should have been coordinated beforehand.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 09-01-2005, 12:16 AM

Dola: It seems that stories from riders didnt gel with actual things that took place in the dome. Seems that there's no security and coordination. Youd think that there wuld be escorts on these things and a running password and checkpoiint checks. Damn what a mess.

sterlingice · 09-01-2005, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CHEMICAL SOLDIER

Breaking News now: AOne of the buses that got to Houston WASN'T from the superdome!
As per CNN. Seems that it was commandeered from someplace. This should have been coordinated beforehand.

While true, in a perfect world, either everyone can do all the paperwork, dot all the i's and cross all the t's, and make sure everything is perfectly coordinated (mind you, on something of this scale, we're talking about there still being a 5% chance of a screw up due to the number of people involved) and they could head out tomorrow or Friday or do it as fast as possible and hope to do the best they can.

SI

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 09-01-2005, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

While true, in a perfect world, either everyone can do all the paperwork, dot all the i's and cross all the t's, and make sure everything is perfectly coordinated (mind you, on something of this scale, we're talking about there still being a 5% chance of a screw up due to the number of people involved) and they could head out tomorrow or Friday or do it as fast as possible and hope to do the best they can.

SI

It's not about paper work it's about OPSEC (Operational Security) and following SOP's for Convoy ops and such. Just gets me irritated how those ''infiltrators'' breached the system and got into a ''secure'' area. Operations this big you'd think there would be verification of manifests and id cards and such.

Peregrine · 09-01-2005, 01:03 AM

I don't know why the media acts so surprised that others (not in the Superdome) would be trying to evacuate once they saw all the announcements, I know if I had a bus I'd be loading it with people to try to evacuate the place.

Farrah Whitworth-Rahn · 09-01-2005, 06:37 AM

FNC (Phil Keating live report) is reporting there were gunshots in the Superdome just now.

HomerJSimpson · 09-01-2005, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

FNC (Phil Keating live report) is reporting there were gunshots in the Superdome just now.

CNN is reporting shot fired at a helicopter involved at the Superdome.

Farrah Whitworth-Rahn · 09-01-2005, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerJSimpson

CNN is reporting shot fired at a helicopter involved at the Superdome.

Why on earth would someone shoot at a helicopter right now?

HomerJSimpson · 09-01-2005, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

Why on earth would someone shoot at a helicopter right now?

I have no idea. People are crazy?

Ben E Lou · 09-01-2005, 07:05 AM

Is wwltv down for everyone right now?

JonInMiddleGA · 09-01-2005, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

Why on earth would someone shoot at a helicopter right now?

Those aren't people shooting at a helicopter ... those are animals who happen to walk on two legs.

JonInMiddleGA · 09-01-2005, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerJSimpson

CNN is reporting shot fired at a helicopter involved at the Superdome.

I spent much of yesterday thinking this but I don't believe I ever said it here.
NOW I'm ready to say it: we've got the wrong kind of helicopters in the air over New Orleans. Time to move the S&R choppers out & the gunships in.

HomerJSimpson · 09-01-2005, 07:58 AM

Who is this idiot on CNN, and who exactly pissed in his cheerios? When he he was interviewing Haley Barbor awhile ago, he kept pushing him and pushing him to say the Feds aren't doing enuogh to the point Barber was like "look, I don't have time to argue. I'm just trying to give you an update on the situation." Then he interviewed a woman at the Astrodome, and was basically throwing gasoline on her anger to get her to break down.

08-31-2005, 08:47 PM	#703
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	The following link shows satellite imagery from around noon today, and I'm quite happy to say that my MIL and my place are two of the few dry areas in the town. If the looters can just be kept away, we might be in good shape.. However, my grandfather (wife's GF) has called the fire department and they say his house is almost under water in Kenner (which it looks like on the satellite.) Edit: Forgot the link: http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/vid...ing_083105.wmv __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen. Last edited by Eaglesfan27 : 08-31-2005 at 08:48 PM.

08-31-2005, 09:08 PM	#705
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Although I'm sure Sen.Landrieu (D-LA) will manage to tick me off royally at some time in the future, I thought she did a pretty good job on Larry King Live just now. She basically said that everybody - Congressmen, Senators, the President, the Feds, the state government, the local sheriffs, the mayor & staff, basically Everybody - is doing every thing they can as fast as they can. She mentioned that the military was coming, adding a "hurry" to the end of it, but I really didn't get the feeling even that was a slam about their timeline, just an honest plea for the help they can bring. She also mentioned that her brother, the Lt. Governor (I don't think I realized they were related) had spent the past two days recovering bodies & helping with rescues, came across not as a "oh what a great guy my brother" but more like "My God, the Lt.Governor of a state is out there in a rowboat, if we're doing that don't you think we're doing everything humanly possible?" She appeared to me to be taking the high road tonight, didn't try to score any political points nor make any political statements. She also scored high for getting visibly ticked off at Larry in an earlier segment. I guess it just stood out to me because I'd just finished reading a piece on how strategists are already working on how to use Katrina against the President shortly & her performance was a pretty stark contrast vs what I'd read just minutes earlier. Props to her. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

08-31-2005, 10:18 PM	#715
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Can we merge this with the "people suck" thread? Fucking looters destroying their own communities. I hope they each catch some hideous disease as a result of running around town slogging through debris, waste, and whatever other biohazards are out there. Would be quite deserving. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

08-31-2005, 11:28 PM	#731
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Dola - Actually it is a fair distance north of I-10 (at least 2 miles) and is close to the lake. I know we pass some very nice houses on the right that I was considering as possible buys. We also were looking at some houses a bit further north of their place that were very close to the lake. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

09-01-2005, 12:08 AM	#735
Masked College Starter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bay Area	These links may have already been posted, but they are some of the best images I have seen of the city. Before: http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/k...h9_2004_dg.jpg After: http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/k...31_2005_dg.jpg The 17th St canal is on the left edge. You can see the breech about 1/6 from the top. The older areas of the city are along the river and are dry. The French Quarter is in the lower right corner right at the big bend in the river. The 9th ward is east of the image and is severely flooded, and uptown is south of the image and did not flood. The small bit of land in the very bottom right is the west bank which did not flood. Kenner is significantly west of this image. Last edited by Masked : 09-01-2005 at 12:10 AM.

08-31-2005, 09:05 PM	#704
Farrah Whitworth-Rahn Red-Headed Vixen Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ	Ok I have to say this - the Governor of LA really irritates me. She needs to suck it up, and get her emotions in check. It really drives me nuts when female politicos act like a bunch of blubbering women.

08-31-2005, 09:12 PM	#706
ScottVib High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: My Computer	Reading one of the blogs at nola.com and you see more and more reports from hospitals that armed looters are breaking in and taking over the hospitals. Sad.

08-31-2005, 09:15 PM	#709
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	This mean that a "Shoot to Kill" order is out on the looters then?

08-31-2005, 10:10 PM	#713
Farrah Whitworth-Rahn Red-Headed Vixen Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ	Just saw on my local news here that two little boys, both 8 years old, saw the hurricane coverage on the news and wanted to help. They took their piggy banks down to the Salvation Army headquarters downtown and donated all their money. About $60 total. Warm fuzzies.

08-31-2005, 10:18 PM	#716
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	I'm hating the politicizing of this from the media. I just watched Aaron "Smacky" Brown's report on CNN, and he's just itching to blame everything on Bush. He was interviewing correspondents, and asking very leading questions about the speed in which Washington has provided aid. He was clearly upset when one answered that the Guard was on the scene very quickly (Bush had signed the National Disaster declarations in advance to make that easier). So then he asked if the "military" part of the Guard was on the scene fast enough (something the governor would have had to request) then encouraged speculation that perhaps it didn't because everyone's in Iraq. Just disgusting. I know every news outlet does this, and CNN is no exception. I know Brown is one of the worst. But to use all this suffering to make your case against Bush should be beneath the network. Not so, I guess. I feel like making fun of Brown's stupid toupee right now. standard disclaimer - I have never voted for anyone named Bush, nor did I support W.'s candadacy in 2000 or 2004.

08-31-2005, 10:24 PM	#718
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Something else crossed my mind while wwltv again. Knowing how much donations to Red Cross (and Salv Army) will go directly to helping, do you think it might be more cost beneficial for the Federal Govt to give some of their millions to them as well? Seems to me it could do a lot of good very quickly.

08-31-2005, 10:33 PM	#721
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	That's a good point (from wwltv) in that the news have been dominated by the outlawness but there are much more good going with tremendous humanitarian efforts being performed by many. Wonder why we don't see more of this? Oh wait....

08-31-2005, 10:53 PM	#723
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	And Nancy Grace is covering the Natalie-Aruba case. Kinda interesting.

08-31-2005, 11:01 PM	#725
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	From what I've heard and seen Kenner has water problems all over. Its hard to tell how deep exactly though. It could just be a foot of water everywhere, it could be more. But the word was everything from the lake to the interstate had a good amount of water. The only video evidence I saw of Jefferson Parish was a quick shot of what looked like Williams Blvd near the Treasure Chest under water(which obviously would be no surprise) and the often shown shot of Clerview Mall and Vets with water. Both shots it was hard to tell how much water exactly.

08-31-2005, 11:22 PM	#729
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	Where in Kenner is that EF? All my Aunts and Uncles and my Grandmother live in one little area of Kenner. They are on the West Esplanade side of Vintage(right off of Power), so I am hoping they didn't get 10 feet of water, but nothing short of no water in their homes would surpise me now.

08-31-2005, 11:37 PM	#732
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	Ack yea, I am not too surprised that that area would be hit hard, unfortunately. As if sinking houses in Kenner weren't bad enough. I wonder what impact, if any, standing water for a long period of time will have on houses that are still sinking in that area? It can't be good.

08-31-2005, 11:42 PM	#733
dawgfan Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Seattle	I'm a bit surprised given the inevitable stories with a sports angle that I haven't seen any articles talking about the Manning family. I'm assuming Archie and his wife got out of town ahead of the hurricane, and maybe Peyton and Eli don't want to make a big deal out of their connection to New Orleans at the moment.

09-01-2005, 12:12 AM	#737
Masked College Starter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bay Area	dola On the left side near the center of the image you see a what appear to be many very small buildings. These are a couple of large cementaries with the above ground crypts. Let me know if you would like any other landmarks pointed out. Last edited by Masked : 09-01-2005 at 12:14 AM.

09-01-2005, 12:15 AM	#738
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Breaking News now: AOne of the buses that got to Houston WASN'T from the superdome! As per CNN. Seems that it was commandeered from someplace. This should have been coordinated beforehand. __________________ Toujour Pret

09-01-2005, 12:16 AM	#739
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Dola: It seems that stories from riders didnt gel with actual things that took place in the dome. Seems that there's no security and coordination. Youd think that there wuld be escorts on these things and a running password and checkpoiint checks. Damn what a mess. __________________ Toujour Pret Last edited by CHEMICAL SOLDIER : 09-01-2005 at 12:20 AM.

09-01-2005, 01:03 AM	#742
Peregrine Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	I don't know why the media acts so surprised that others (not in the Superdome) would be trying to evacuate once they saw all the announcements, I know if I had a bus I'd be loading it with people to try to evacuate the place.

09-01-2005, 06:37 AM	#743
Farrah Whitworth-Rahn Red-Headed Vixen Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ	FNC (Phil Keating live report) is reporting there were gunshots in the Superdome just now. Last edited by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn : 09-01-2005 at 06:38 AM.

09-01-2005, 07:05 AM	#747
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Is wwltv down for everyone right now? __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

09-01-2005, 07:58 AM	#750
HomerJSimpson College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Springfield, USA	Who is this idiot on CNN, and who exactly pissed in his cheerios? When he he was interviewing Haley Barbor awhile ago, he kept pushing him and pushing him to say the Feds aren't doing enuogh to the point Barber was like "look, I don't have time to argue. I'm just trying to give you an update on the situation." Then he interviewed a woman at the Astrodome, and was basically throwing gasoline on her anger to get her to break down.

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