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Johnny93g · 08-05-2005, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Simms

I will preface this by saying that, as a Leaf fan, I have absolutely zero expectation that this will happen. That said, where there's smoke, there's often fire, and while the "rumour" as reported is so one-sided as to favour the Leafs that there is almost certainly no chance it has any basis in reality, there is a lot of chatter apparently about some kind of a 3-way deal involving Toronto, Boston, and Chicago. (A moderator at HFBoards confirmed it was reported on ESPN radio in Chicago but was ultimately shouted down by others, so I don't know if it was or not.)

The gist of the rumour had Thornton in Toronto (shocking, I know), Belfour in Chicago, Daze in Boston, and a bunch of other stuff from Toronto thrown in (couple of firsts, Stajan and/or Steen, etc.). Last I heard, the Hawks were still trying desperately to land Khabibulin, so one would assume that if they get him, all bets are off (if they aren't already).

At any rate, that might be where some of the Belfour rumours are coming from.

/not buying any of it. *shurg*

I dont buy that either...if it happend...greatest robbery ever...

I think 640 reported the Leafs are rumoured to be sending Belfour and Belak to Detroit for Zetterberg, and then signing cujo for 2-2.5 mil.....that seems more plausible...except i dont know if the Wings have cap room for that

Karim · 08-05-2005, 10:26 AM

Maple Leafs · 08-05-2005, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny93g

I think 640 reported the Leafs are rumoured to be sending Belfour and Belak to Detroit for Zetterberg, and then signing cujo for 2-2.5 mil.....that seems more plausible...except i dont know if the Wings have cap room for that

Why would the Wings want to give up a very good 25-year-old for a 40-year-old goalie, when they could resign a 38-year-old goalie for less money and keep Zetterberg? Belak is an under-rated tough guy, but not a player who would influence a trade one way or another.

There's no smoke or fire here.

Draft Dodger · 08-05-2005, 10:46 AM

no one wants Belfour, guys.

well, no one wants to give up anything to get him, that is.

bbor · 08-05-2005, 11:02 AM

Name 5 goalies better than Belfour.

sachmo71 · 08-05-2005, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bbor

Name 5 goalies better than Belfour.

There were only two in 03-04 in wins:

Martin Brodeur NJD 75 38 26 11
Marty Turco DAL 73 37 21 13

In GAA:

Miikka Kiprusoff CGY 38 65 1.69
Dwayne Roloson MIN 48 89 1.88
Marty Turco DAL 73 144 1.98
Martin Brodeur NJD 75 154 2.03
Robert Esche PHI 40 79 2.04

In save percentage:

Dwayne Roloson MIN 48 89 1323 .933
Miikka Kiprusoff CGY 38 65 966 .933
Roberto Luongo FLA 72 172 2475 .931
Vesa Toskala SAN 28 53 760 .930
Andrew Raycroft BOS 57 117 1586 .926

Honolulu_Blue · 08-05-2005, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bbor

Name 5 goalies better than Belfour.

Well, it depends, Belfour now or in his hey day? We'll assume now, since that's what the Wings would be getting.

In no real particular order:
1. Broduer
2. Kiprusoff
3. Khabibhulin
4. Turco
5. Luongo

You could, possibly, even add Hasek (no idea what he'll look like) and Nabokov (less sure on this).

No way this deal happens (I hope). Belfour's salary is too high (they are expecting to sign Zetterberg for less than $4 million). While the Wings certainly are lacking toughness (no McCarty and Hatcher), I am not sure the answer is Wade Belak.

Simms · 08-05-2005, 11:09 AM

Brodeur, Luongo, Khabibulin, Theodore aren't even arguable, IMO.

I'd probably put Hasek and Kipprusoff ahead of him, too...but they're more debatable.

Simms · 08-05-2005, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

While the Wings certainly are lacking toughness (no McCarty and Hatcher), I am not sure the answer is Wade Belak.

There is not a question in the world to which the correct answer is, or ever should be, "Wade Belak".

bbor · 08-05-2005, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Simms

Brodeur, Luongo, Khabibulin, Theodore aren't even arguable, IMO.

I'd probably put Hasek and Kipprusoff ahead of him, too...but they're more debatable.

Theodore has had 1 good season....i think he is arguable.

Simms · 08-05-2005, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bbor

Theodore has had 1 good season....i think he is arguable.

Yeah, thinking more since I posted that, I'd agree.

TazFTW · 08-05-2005, 11:29 AM

Blackhawks put up a Bulin Wall. 4 years $ 27 million

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=132519&hubName=nhl

Honolulu_Blue · 08-05-2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Blackhawks put up a Bulin Wall. 4 years $ 27 million

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=132519&hubName=nhl

Good to see the Blackhawks finally back into the action! The stupid Belfour and Roenick deals crippled that once proud franchise for too long...

Draft Dodger · 08-05-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bbor

Name 5 goalies better than Belfour.

name 5 that are older (which is more where I'm coming from)

Johnny93g · 08-05-2005, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Well, it depends, Belfour now or in his hey day? We'll assume now, since that's what the Wings would be getting.

In no real particular order:
1. Broduer
2. Kiprusoff
3. Khabibhulin
4. Turco
5. Luongo

You could, possibly, even add Hasek (no idea what he'll look like) and Nabokov (less sure on this).

No way this deal happens (I hope). Belfour's salary is too high (they are expecting to sign Zetterberg for less than $4 million). While the Wings certainly are lacking toughness (no McCarty and Hatcher), I am not sure the answer is Wade Belak.

I would argue Hasek and Kiprusoff

Kipper has been a starter for half a season....A amazing season, but lets let him prove himself....hell Potvin was considered top 5 after his 1st 2 season...Jim Carrey won a vezina trophey!!!!.....and Hasek, im sorry, you have to be able to play to be considered good

sterlingice · 08-05-2005, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

name 5 that are older (which is more where I'm coming from)

Yeah- that was what scared me about those rumors.

I wonder what will become of Thibault. Whoever gets him will have a real bargain on their hands.

SI

bbor · 08-05-2005, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

name 5 that are older (which is more where I'm coming from)

Glenn Hall
Terry Sawchuk
Johnnie Bowers
Ken Dryden
Dom Hasik

Maple Leafs · 08-05-2005, 01:52 PM

TSN says Brad May has signed with the Avs.

Um... what? The guy who put the bounty on Steve Moore gets signed in Colorado? The devil himself has now joined the other side?

Draft Dodger... help me understand...

This would be like the Leafs signed Bryan Marchem... um, never mind.

sachmo71 · 08-05-2005, 01:54 PM

It's the "new" NHL. All sins are forgiven.

HomerJSimpson · 08-05-2005, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sachmo71

It's the "new" NHL. All sins are forgiven.

Actually, most of these players have taken so many blows to the head they don't remember past the begining of the lockout.

General Mike · 08-05-2005, 02:07 PM

Kariya talking to Edmonton?

I saw that on ESPNEWS.

Johnny93g · 08-05-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by General Mike

Kariya talking to Edmonton?

I saw that on ESPNEWS.

They talk about hockey on espn?

Draft Dodger · 08-05-2005, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

TSN says Brad May has signed with the Avs.

Um... what? The guy who put the bounty on Steve Moore gets signed in Colorado? The devil himself has now joined the other side?

Draft Dodger... help me understand...

This would be like the Leafs signed Bryan Marchem... um, never mind.

wow. I am completely speechless.
maybe he can get a locker next to Aebischer (the guy May completely mugged in that infamous game)? although, at least it's better than Barnaby. and Worrell. and Marchment...

(I think I need to find a new team)

Draft Dodger · 08-05-2005, 02:57 PM

really, all that's left is to sign Jeff Hackett and Eric Lindros and maybe throw in a trade for Chris Chelios and Darcy Tucker and my offseason from hell will be complete

Honolulu_Blue · 08-05-2005, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

(I think I need to find a new team)

Done.

Draft Dodger · 08-05-2005, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Done.

my wife asked me the other day if it was alright for her to start rooting for the wings...

Johnny93g · 08-05-2005, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

my wife asked me the other day if it was alright for her to start rooting for the wings...

and you said no, right

Honolulu_Blue · 08-05-2005, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

my wife asked me the other day if it was alright for her to start rooting for the wings...

You have married a very wise woman, DD. Take her hand and join us... Take your first step into a larger world...

Draft Dodger · 08-05-2005, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny93g

and you said no, right

she's been semi-liking the Wings for a while now. If the Avs and and B's aren't on TV, it's generally the Wings that she watches (initially, she just watched because she thought it was cool the way the announcers called the arena "The Joe"). She also has a thing for older guys, so that also is an attraction for her.

Maple Leafs · 08-05-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

she's been semi-liking the Wings for a while now. If the Avs and and B's aren't on TV, it's generally the Wings that she watches (initially, she just watched because she thought it was cool the way the announcers called the arena "The Joe"). She also has a thing for older guys, so that also is an attraction for her.

Wait, she has two favorite teams and she "semi-likes" another?

Are you allowed to "semi-like" other women?

TazFTW · 08-05-2005, 03:56 PM

Kariya to Nashville. $4.5 million per for 2 years.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=132540&hubName=nhl

Honolulu_Blue · 08-05-2005, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Kariya to Nashville. $4.5 over 2 years.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=132540&hubName=nhl

Kariya in a Predators sweater? That just doesn't seem right for some reason. Not sure why...

Wolfpack · 08-05-2005, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

You have married a very wise woman, DD. Take her hand and join us... Take your first step into a larger world...

I read this and the first thing that came to my mind was, "Join me! We can rule the galaxy together as father and son!"

(I'm not a Wing-hater, BTW, just something that popped into my mind.

)

Ryan S · 08-05-2005, 04:09 PM

Leafs sign Jason Allison

Honolulu_Blue · 08-05-2005, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack

I read this and the first thing that came to my mind was, "Join me! We can rule the galaxy together as father and son!"

(I'm not a Wing-hater, BTW, just something that popped into my mind.

)

Heh! Me too! That's why I had to kick in that Obi Wan line (Take your first step into a larger world...) in there to make sure it was clear it's all Good Jedi on our side. The cool, ass-kicking good Jedi, like Obi Wan, Yoda, and Luke, not the idiot-I-got-shot-in-the-back-without-my-Jedi-powers-doing-dick-for-me Jedi.

Honolulu_Blue · 08-05-2005, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan S

Leafs sign Jason Allison

Assuming he can stay healthy and will be able to over come any psychological effects of being hurt that long and missing so much time, he'll be a hell of a player.

Draft Dodger · 08-05-2005, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Wait, she has two favorite teams and she "semi-likes" another?

Are you allowed to "semi-like" other women?

actually, I am. AND my wife likes hockey.
so there.

TazFTW · 08-05-2005, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan S

Leafs sign Jason Allison

Yay, maybe Leaf fans can finally shutup about inactivity. Was reading that Code thread at hockeynations and it seemed like every non-Code post was a question asking about a) Allison and the Leafs b) Lindros and the Leafs c) Thorton being traded to the Leafs d) Zetterberg and the Leafs.

Draft Dodger · 08-05-2005, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Assuming he can stay healthy and will be able to over come any psychological effects of being hurt that long and missing so much time, he'll be a hell of a player.

I didn't realize he's only 30. I thought he was quite a bit older, for some reason.

HomerJSimpson · 08-05-2005, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Kariya to Nashville. $4.5 over 2 years.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=132540&hubName=nhl

That's very nice for the Predators fans (both of them). I've been to several games in Nashville, and it has to be one of the best venues (right in the heart of music row, with the Ryman auditorium across the street and the Country Music HOF right behind it).

Maple Leafs · 08-05-2005, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan S

Leafs sign Jason Allison

Solid #3 center, with #2 potential. I'll take it.

RPI-Fan · 08-05-2005, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Solid #3 center, with #2 potential. I'll take it.

I think you're not giving him quite enough credit. If he's unhealthy, he'll be a bum and a hinderance -- that's a given. But this is a guy who, two years ago, was hands down one of the Top 6 or 7 centers in the game. He DEFINITELY has #1 potential.

Maple Leafs · 08-05-2005, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

I think you're not giving him quite enough credit. If he's unhealthy, he'll be a bum and a hinderance -- that's a given. But this is a guy who, two years ago, was hands down one of the Top 6 or 7 centers in the game. He DEFINITELY has #1 potential.

Well, chances are Sundin as the #1 center spot locked up regardless. I'll grant that Allison would be #1-calibre if he's back to where he was four years ago, I just think the odds of that are so slim that it's unrealistic to expect that much from him.

bbor · 08-05-2005, 05:04 PM

Eh......Where's Palfy?

RPI-Fan · 08-05-2005, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Well, chances are Sundin as the #1 center spot locked up regardless. I'll grant that Allison would be #1-calibre if he's back to where he was four years ago, I just think the odds of that are so slim that it's unrealistic to expect that much from him.

Fair enough -- definitely agree. I think you're right in saying Sundin probably will be the #1 (though I think he is as likely as anyone to be a HUGE disappointment after the lockout year), but Allison has the talent to push him. He plays really a very similar style game, and at worst, if he's healthy, will be one of the better #3 centers in the league.

sachmo71 · 08-05-2005, 05:24 PM

Kariya a Predator...interesting.

Joe Canadian · 08-05-2005, 05:29 PM

I like the Allison pick-up, only because it's a one year deal. JFJ would have been a moron to song anything longer, which was what I was hearing earlier in the week... I'm glad they stuck to the single year.

Now if they sign Lindros, the Leafs will go from the "Elderly" team, to the "Cripple" team... I can hear the Toronto media now.

sterlingice · 08-05-2005, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack

I read this and the first thing that came to my mind was, "Join me! We can rule the galaxy together as father and son!"

(I'm not a Wing-hater, BTW, just something that popped into my mind.

)

That's because they really are evil. He's just masquerading as good. I believe I found a nice little thing on google image search that sums up my feeling nicely:

SI

Joe Canadian · 08-05-2005, 05:41 PM

May to the Avs... WTF? Did they sign him so they can gang beat him in the dressing room during training camp. I would have really liked to see Moore's face when he heard about this, considering May's part of the "conspiracy" to hurt him.

Kariya to the Preds... Wow, this came out of left field. We heard Vancouver, Edmonton, San Jose, Toronto, etc. But I never thought he'd sign in Nashville. I can only assume he wants to get back to the basics and focus on hockey for awhile without the media spotlight... Call me crazy but I really don't see him in Nashville longer than two years.

TazFTW · 08-05-2005, 05:51 PM

Noticed the Stars signed Johan Hedberg to be the backup keeper. Farewell Ron Tugnutt.

In a chat with that Code guy and he's now saying the Oilers have thrown themselves into the Joe Thorton mix. Says they'll offer Thorton $6 mil per. If that actually happens this isn't the New NHL, it is the bizarro NHL.

08-05-2005, 10:26 AM	#702
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Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	no one wants Belfour, guys. well, no one wants to give up anything to get him, that is. __________________ Mile High Hockey

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bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Name 5 goalies better than Belfour. __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

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Simms FOBL Commish Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Team Radii	Brodeur, Luongo, Khabibulin, Theodore aren't even arguable, IMO. I'd probably put Hasek and Kipprusoff ahead of him, too...but they're more debatable. __________________ FOBL Commissioner 34 Productions Web Design

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Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	TSN says Brad May has signed with the Avs. Um... what? The guy who put the bounty on Steve Moore gets signed in Colorado? The devil himself has now joined the other side? Draft Dodger... help me understand... This would be like the Leafs signed Bryan Marchem... um, never mind. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

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TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Blackhawks put up a Bulin Wall. 4 years $ 27 million http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=132519&hubName=nhl

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sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	It's the "new" NHL. All sins are forgiven.

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Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	really, all that's left is to sign Jeff Hackett and Eric Lindros and maybe throw in a trade for Chris Chelios and Darcy Tucker and my offseason from hell will be complete __________________ Mile High Hockey

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TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Kariya to Nashville. $4.5 million per for 2 years. http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=132540&hubName=nhl Last edited by TazFTW : 08-05-2005 at 06:01 PM.

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Ryan S Quarterback Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: London, England	Leafs sign Jason Allison

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bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Eh......Where's Palfy? __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

08-05-2005, 05:24 PM	#746
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	Kariya a Predator...interesting.

08-05-2005, 05:29 PM	#747
Joe Canadian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada	I like the Allison pick-up, only because it's a one year deal. JFJ would have been a moron to song anything longer, which was what I was hearing earlier in the week... I'm glad they stuck to the single year. Now if they sign Lindros, the Leafs will go from the "Elderly" team, to the "Cripple" team... I can hear the Toronto media now. __________________ Steve Davis (Joe Canadian) GO LEAFS GO!! GO FOG DEVILS GO!! LETS GO JAYS!! EHM 2005 DYNASTY: A New Philosophy in Toronto!

08-05-2005, 05:41 PM	#749
Joe Canadian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada	May to the Avs... WTF? Did they sign him so they can gang beat him in the dressing room during training camp. I would have really liked to see Moore's face when he heard about this, considering May's part of the "conspiracy" to hurt him. Kariya to the Preds... Wow, this came out of left field. We heard Vancouver, Edmonton, San Jose, Toronto, etc. But I never thought he'd sign in Nashville. I can only assume he wants to get back to the basics and focus on hockey for awhile without the media spotlight... Call me crazy but I really don't see him in Nashville longer than two years. __________________ Steve Davis (Joe Canadian) GO LEAFS GO!! GO FOG DEVILS GO!! LETS GO JAYS!! EHM 2005 DYNASTY: A New Philosophy in Toronto!

08-05-2005, 05:51 PM	#750
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Noticed the Stars signed Johan Hedberg to be the backup keeper. Farewell Ron Tugnutt. In a chat with that Code guy and he's now saying the Oilers have thrown themselves into the Joe Thorton mix. Says they'll offer Thorton $6 mil per. If that actually happens this isn't the New NHL, it is the bizarro NHL.

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