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Why Ardent? I know Ardent better than any other werewolf player. We have discussed strategy in depth for hours at a time on the phone in the past. He takes strategy into everything he types in these games as do I. He's not playing his normal game(he has had no strategy this game at all, something doesn't add up in his play, and then things such as voting blocks don't work in his favor either). Before the night actions were even up I said I already know who I am voting for. I got up today and came out with that person since they were still around. With all that said its time to return to my movie , hope I'm still around when I come back b/c I am a jedi.
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03-05-2006, 08:34 PM | #703 |
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I think Dubb just got the vote by one.
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03-05-2006, 08:36 PM | #704 |
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I think Gram's right and would like a hell of an explanation from mckerny.
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03-05-2006, 08:37 PM | #705 |
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Here is what I show for final votes:
Ardent - Dubb (532), Hoops (550), KWhit (611), Tanglewood (620), Ardent (621), Taz (653), Barkeep (686) Dubb - Schmidty (553), Sack (556), Jeeber (578), Desnudo (583), Gram (586), Qwik (588), SnDvls (610), mckerney (687) Qwikshot - Cartman (594) Not Voted: King, Penny, StKelly 8-7-1 with Dubb slated for an exit, barring duke, weighted votes, or something else that MasterSaldana has cooked up for us. Mckerney, what prompted the vote change at the end? |
03-05-2006, 08:37 PM | #706 | |
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I hadn't thought of that. In that situation though, wouldn't Ardent just come forward and call Dubb out since all the other wolves would also know who he was? |
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As would I. I was prepared for the martyr's death.
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03-05-2006, 08:38 PM | #708 |
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FWIW, Ardent did leave the vote on himself.
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03-05-2006, 08:41 PM | #709 | |
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I'm confused by that last sentence. It's absolutely to his advantage, but he can nail AE now and then you two will still be around as prime suspects. Likely more suspicious of each other if anything. That was the point I was trying to make. |
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03-05-2006, 08:41 PM | #710 | |
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03-05-2006, 08:46 PM | #712 | |
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Possibly. I think it was obvious to all, or at least to me, that no matter what happened today, you and hoops would still be suspicious of each other. I still believe that will be the case, even if AE were to turn out a Sith. |
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03-05-2006, 08:47 PM | #713 |
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I know it would be super sweet if it turns out dubb was Sith.
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03-05-2006, 08:49 PM | #715 | |
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Dubb really slid behind the scenes. He didn't really push at all beside his original argument. At a certain point I think most people had forgotten who started the voting on AE in the first place, until Schmidty pointed it out. |
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03-05-2006, 08:51 PM | #716 | |
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Well you know yourself better than I do, but the way I was reading things was different. |
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03-05-2006, 08:52 PM | #717 |
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Since it appears I will be living, at least temporarily, I will take kwhit off the ignore list and I apologize for calling you a jerk. However, the wording of your post truly offended me.
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03-05-2006, 08:54 PM | #718 |
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AE you know I have all the respect in the world for you and understand how KWhit's post could have struck you wrong. I think he was just reflecting a feeling that I know I have that voting for yourself is a tactic that needs to be taken out of our WW games.
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03-05-2006, 08:56 PM | #719 |
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Going back to last game, if AE is offended by that, he's the most thin-skinned Navy man I've ever met.
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03-05-2006, 08:57 PM | #720 |
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I can understand that. My vote for myself wasn't a "get me out of this game" type thing, though I posted as much in anger. You and someone else said you had more to gain by my death. Had I not voted for myself, I doubt the vote would have been as close. Who knows.
I'm willing to walk the line. I have no fear of death. I'm not being a defeatist. I'm trying to help.
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Telling me I'm useless or however he put it, yeah that pissed me off.
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03-05-2006, 09:00 PM | #722 | |
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TBH, I don't buy it. However, I also don't think you are a Sith. If I'm wrong about the first, I'll sincerely apologize after the game. |
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Back from shoveling snow ... Mrs. Hoopsguy was getting frustrated that I wouldn't leave the computer to do this earlier
In terms of my suspicion level of Barkeep, it is probably a little bit lower than that of the collective opinion. If he is playing a wolf he is being a little more up-front than I have seen him be in the past. Not that he is a lurker as a wolf, but he is extending himself a little more than I am used to seeing. Interestingly, I'll be more suspicious of him if Dubb is a Sith, even though I was right with him in voting for Ardent. |
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That's fine. It did piss me off, maybe offend wasn't the word.
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So where's the salad shooter? I want to see results gosh darn it.
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03-05-2006, 09:10 PM | #726 |
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Your assmebly in the galley is earlier tonight, as in a very un-Jedi manner, tempers flare and anger is expressed amongst the group. At the end of the day, the majority of votes have fallen on Dubb93. You all stand around, awaiting some sort of speech similar to the one that Lathum gave the night before. But that is not to be today.
As soon as the last vote is cast and tallied, Dubb launches himself at the nearest Jedi. Schmity is sent reeling across the room as Dubb ignites his lightsaber. Those expecting the scarlet of a Sith are disappointed, as a pale lavender blade shimmers in the darkness. The hum of Dubbs blade is joined shortly by that of Schmidty who has collected himself and launched, flipping though the air, back into the battle. As the battle swirls around the room, you notice in Dubb's tactics a certain style which varies from your normal expectations. He continually launches items at Schmidty from around the room, in a very un-Jedi like manner. Many of you wonder at this dishonorable manner of fighting, but when you see the look on Dubb's face, his face contorted with hatred and anger. As the battle continues, it appears to be a relatively even fight, with Dubb momentarily gaining an advantage thanks to a skillfully placed flying chair. Instead of seizing upon this opening to finish off Schmidty, Dubb spins to face the rest of you, the anger and hatred on his face now directed at all of you through the Force. "Fools, all of you. There isn't one among you as worthy as I. I would have destroyed you all if I had the Dark Side as my ally. Bhwaahahahahahh!!!" His evil laughter is cut short however, as Schmitdy has rebounded faster than Dubb expected and with a skillful toss of his lightsaber, cleaves Dubbs cackling head clean off the top of his neck. Dubb's last words leave you just as confused as Lathum's. It is obvious that he was evil, but his lavender lightsaber and inablity to fully harness the power of the Dark Side make it seem as though he was not actually a Sith. Day 3 is over. It is now Night 3. Night Actions are due by 9:30am on Monday. |
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Interesting. So dubb was playing the role of aux evil again. This puts things into a new light indeed.
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03-05-2006, 09:11 PM | #728 |
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For an explaination of my vote change, I became less convinced of my reason to suspect ardent and began to believe that ardent is a jedi, and with another candidate i the running that I was somewhat suspicious of in dubb, I decided to go with that option instead. Perhaps I made a huge mistake and lynched a jedi and let a sith go, but considering the circumstances I believed that my vote was better off being on dubb than ardent.
That said, I think we definitely need to follow cartman's lead and place high suspicion on qwikshot tomorrows lynch vote. |
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sorceror role?
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Hmm. So the question for me is whether he was cursed, in which case I think little is learned from his action or the helper evil role in which case my suspcion is 100% back on hoops, or possibly qwik, as they would be the ones who he was willing to potentially sacrafice himself to save.
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Now, I hope you will all leave me alone.
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03-05-2006, 09:15 PM | #733 |
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So he is evil, but not Sith. 3rd faction? Dark Jedi?
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What is the "aux evil" in reference to? Thanks. |
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Well, pending night actions we may be heading towards that Barkeep/Hoopsguy showdown after all.
First time that we have struck at the enemies of the Jedi, so voting patterns should start to take on more value. Assuming that the Sith knew the identity of Dubb, I would expect that mckerney vaults up the trusted list now. Ardent moves up as well, although Dubb is crafty enough to provide cover for a Sith. Still, I'm inclined to put this as a fairly low likelihood. |
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I don't think we can assume at all that the sith knew Dubb was a bad guy unless you believe he was cursed and was the one attacked last night.
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03-05-2006, 09:27 PM | #740 |
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Dubb voted for Lathum the first 2 days since Lathum turned out to be a Jedi, I do not think we can learn anything from that.
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Barkeep, if Dubb was the one in combat last night then his blade has changed colors. And the description in Post #493 doesn't read at all like a conversion to me.
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03-05-2006, 09:32 PM | #742 |
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Mckerney also voted for Dubb on Day 1 (post 229). He was the only person to vote for him prior to today, at least as the final vote. I haven't tracked all the changes, just the final votes.
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I am quite sure that Dubb began our journey as a Jedi, yet was corrupted by the dishonorable Sith somewhere along the way. We must guard ourselves against this evil, but also resist fear and hatred, as they will only distract us and lead us to the dark side.
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Forgot about the color of the lightsabers. Good catch hoops.
So that leaves either untapped cursed or sorcerer. I guess because he was acknowledged as evil that makes sorcerer the more likely role. |
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mckerney voted Qwik on day 2.
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There was my original post that pissed you off so badly. If that offended you enough to call me a jerk, then you are far too sensitive, IMO. Oh well... But I wonder what your thinking was. If you are a Jedi, then how does voting for yourself help us find the Sith? Unless you're the Duke and happen to know a sith to switch the vote too, I don't understand the logic of voting for yourself. |
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We haven't had the sorceror role in a game for awhile now. I believe the traditional rules with that is that neither side knows the identity of the other.
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It seems like I have heard the sorcerer role reffered to as a seer for the bad guys. When you say sorcerer role, what do you mean?
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Hoops is right that having neither side know the other is the most common way, but I'm 95% sure we have had games where the sorcerer knows the bad guys but the bad guys do not know the sorcerer. Might have even been game where dubb was the sorcerer and did a fake seer reveal.
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