WW LXVI: Money Money Money (Game Over!)

[SnDvls]

well I'm voting for 1 of my 4 before heading off.

Vote The Jackal

[path12]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Why are you guys putting saved in quotation marks all the time?

"I" don't know "what" you "mean".

[path12]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I can see the friend of the bank wanting to keep it secret -- there's info there that the wolves probably shouldn't have. Otherwise, why bid on it?

Disagree on this. They don't have to give a listing of who has what, but they should at least let us know at least what the overall listings show.....even if it's something like:

4 people have $0-$5000
6 people have $5,000-20,000
1 person has $150,000 (well, they should say who that would be).

There's no sense in us getting bids if we're keeping the information secret. The more time that passes without information the more I think the wolves are winning bids......

[Alan T]

Well.. I waited as long as I could, but I have to leave work. Thursday is my night going out, so I won't be back until around 9:15 or 9:20pm EST, then have BB-BBCF sim to run.. so I doubt I'll have much time to catch up before deadline.

Hoops, you seem much different in your defense today than I have seen in the past, and I honestly do not have an idea on how to read it. If I'm wrong about you, then sorry... It wouldn't be the first time and probably not the last. I don't see anything else with a better trail for today's vote though.


Vote Hoopsguy

[hoopsguy]

That works. I'll go into self-preservation mode and cast the vote for someone who already has a vote in an effort to make it to tomorrow. But if/when I'm gone I think Alan is the person that you had better get a handle on, pronto.

Tyrith might be bad, but he isn't an agenda-setter the way that Alan is. He isn't going to string you guys along for days at a time. So if I'm not around after the deadline, take a look at him. I would consider it a bigger priority than learning about MrW, who should have the most money.

[hoopsguy]

Tyrith or Jackal - I don't trust either one very much, but Tyrith is at least playing the game. So I'll vote Jackal, in an effort to reward the engaged player when in doubt.

VOTE THEJACKAL

[hoopsguy]

Secondary reason for the vote - slight degree more trust for SnDvls (who voted here) than for Pass (who voted Tyrith). Also, I think that Pass may be trying to position me into voting for Tyrith, who I have expressed concerns about earlier in the game.

I believe that makes the vote 3-2-1 right now (Me-Jackal-Tyrith).

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

14. Mr. Wednesday - would really like to know what he was doing yesterday, as he suggesting he was going to bid big but doesn't appear to have won a service.

I bid $10k for the PI and obviously didn't win the bid.

I don't recall what I said about how much I was going to bid then. I've said that I'm going to go big today, and I am.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I'm going to cast one vote now, and I'm willing to cast another later.

VOTE THE JACKAL

[path12]

Clap, did you bid on something yesterday?

[Barkeep49]

Current tally:
Hoopsguy – Schmidty (575), Tyrith (696), Hoops (704)
Tyrith – Pass (698)
Jackal – Sndvls (701), Hoops (706), Mr. W (709)

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by path12

Clap, did you bid on something yesterday?

yes. I bid about 15+K for the seer ability

[claphamsa]

Im kinda woried abotu jackall.... hes usualy very talkative and analytical... hes not doign that now!

[path12]

I'm almost positive that a cutthroat is getting some heat today. I'm just not sure who.

--Schmidty comes out firing at hoops re the saldana scan.
--Alan is also questioning hoops. Alan is correct that hoops is not reacting as he normally would to the questioning (IMO).
--hoops looks at Tyrith.
--Tyrith thinks he's gone soon but also has doubts about hoops.
--Pass mentions SnD getting votes yesterday
--SnD "nothing to see here", save debate, ends up tossing out names of Tyrith, path, clap and Jackal (who hasn't been mentioned). Tyrith and my votes were specifically time related, vibe of trying to point elsewhere. Also unhappy with Arles, wants replacement (because not helping cutthroats??)
--Tyrith votes hoops, Pass votes Tyrith (not sure why).
--votes start coming in on Jackal.

All this is just thinking out loud so to speak. I don't see any clues from saldana for anyone he was really out for, that night kill is still weird in my mind. I wouldn't be surprised if there were two wolves in the SnD, hoops, Arles group.

[claphamsa]

FYI if anyone cares, I think it is very important we get the seer ability tongiht... and manage to use it! Cuz at this point its just all arguing. I plan on bidding!

[Barkeep49]

I'm leaving shortly til just before deadline. Telle has all of the info for Arles and has tentatively agreed to play in his place. Hopefully she'll step in tonight.

[path12]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

FYI if anyone cares, I think it is very important we get the seer ability tongiht... and manage to use it! Cuz at this point its just all arguing. I plan on bidding!

I won't be bidding, I had to use the little cash I had on hand to change my beneficiary from saldana to someone else.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by path12

Pass votes Tyrith (not sure why).

Sorry if that wasn't totally clear. Part of me is worried that he's going after hoops, who is #1 or #2 in the known money count, and another part of me is worried that he tried to "save" SnDvls yesterday.

[claphamsa]

fyi Im getting drunk tonight, so if i ramble ignore me

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Secondary reason for the vote - slight degree more trust for SnDvls (who voted here) than for Pass (who voted Tyrith). Also, I think that Pass may be trying to position me into voting for Tyrith, who I have expressed concerns about earlier in the game.

I believe that makes the vote 3-2-1 right now (Me-Jackal-Tyrith).

I'll admit that I chose Tyrith over SnDvls because of your suspicion of him. I figured that if everyone was going to "reject" my discussion of SnDvls, I should at least put in a vote for my 1a target, the guy I think most likely to have saved him if he was a wolf, which was Tyrith (and I discussed why I thought Tyrith over the other guys -- if you want, I'll dig it up).

[claphamsa]

is everyone resting for deadline?????????????????????

[Schmidty]

I might just go to bed and get a few hours of sleep before work since it's so quiet. Plus, there's nothing else I can do.

VOTE HOOPS IN '08!!!!!

[hoopsguy]

Back, but don't see that much has changed since I started my two hour commute.

Chief, since we are actually online at the same time do you want to ask me some questions rather than just falling in line with voting for me for a third straight day?

I really have little idea about Jackal's goodness or badness, but I know that removing me shrinks the number of Rich remaining and will drain money from the game in the form of my assets that are locked up in CDs no matter what I try to do between now and the deadline.

[hoopsguy]

Path, in regards to SnDvls/Arles - I believe if they are both wolves that he would be sending BK some strongly worded PMs on the topic rather than asking about it in the thread. There didn't seem like much downside for him, as a wolf, to link himself to a fellow wolf in the thread. So although I considered that idea I pretty quickly discarded it.

[DaddyTorgo]

hey look it's me. First time i've been able to get to the thread all day

[hoopsguy]

Only 6 of 14 votes in with less than 90 minutes to deadline. Hmm, this smells like a vote that is begging for deadline hijinks.

[claphamsa]

i think its just the way the game is....

[The Jackal]

Wow, I hadn't checked since this afternoon and suddenly there was a run on me. I've been reading the thread and keeping up, just haven't been overactive with my posting because I'm trying to get reads off people. I assure you I'm not a cutthroat, and I may be bidding on a service tonight - I didn't bid either of the first two nights. For self preservation's sake..

vote hoops guy

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

fyi Im getting drunk tonight, so if i ramble ignore me

Can I come?

[claphamsa]

sure... you know where i live right? fresh meade....

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

sure... you know where i live right? fresh meade....

Seriously? FRESH? I'm there. I have a bottle from the beginning of 2006 that I haven't opened. I don't know whether or not it will age well, though, just sitting in a bottle..

[claphamsa]

yeah I was gonna age mine..

[claphamsa]

i just saw an add for lays ketchup chips.... thank god i dont live in canada!

[hoopsguy]

Jackal, given that one of us is probably going to end up on the chopping block tonight, let's spend a little time getting to know each other a bit better.

What was your thought process on not bidding on any service for the first couple of nights? How was that advantageous?

What kind of reads have you developed on people so far? Do you actually think that I'm a Cutthroat, or is the move strictly self-preservation like you typed? Believe me, I understand the self-preservation strategy - it is absolutely the right play and I didn't understand why Mauboy deviated from it last night when he was in jeopardy.

[claphamsa]

hoops clearly doesnt know mau....

[hoopsguy]

For what it is worth, there is very little chance that I'll be bidding on a service tonight. I'm not going to try and juggle that while figuring out where my money is going in the next hour, miscount, somehow live and end up busted by the IRS (per rules).

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

hoops clearly doesnt know mau....

I'm learning, based on the last two games.

Clap, at some point you are going to have to make a decision if you want to collect your 15K for the day. Are there any questions that I can address while we are both around?

[DaddyTorgo]

I think ATM I am leaning towards either voting hoops or I guess voting jackel. I think we are seeing late votes in this game because of the fact that "unvoting" essentially costs 20k (or 10k if you don't bother to nullify your vote) and people are not willing to spend that cost.

I'm torn on hoops...part of me thinks he is reacting very "out of character" but part of me doesn't from what I have read. Of course, he has put one over on me before.

[hoopsguy]

DT, I agree with you on the direction of the vote. Short of having wolf knowledge, I think it ends up being a wasted vote going for someone else right now. And you have to get the vote in to get the 15K. So no dispute there.

I'll talk about whatever you want over the next hour to help you avoid one bad decision - I just don't know if the other option (Jackal) is much better in terms of getting a Cutthroat.

[path12]

I don't see any case whatsoever against Jackal except that he's been quiet. And in his second game in a group he doesn't know with somewhat unconventional rules I don't see that as a big thing.

[path12]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Path, in regards to SnDvls/Arles - I believe if they are both wolves that he would be sending BK some strongly worded PMs on the topic rather than asking about it in the thread. There didn't seem like much downside for him, as a wolf, to link himself to a fellow wolf in the thread. So although I considered that idea I pretty quickly discarded it.

That's a fair point.

[path12]

I'm willing to go another candidate besides either hoops or Jackal. If I have to decide between the two I'm going hoops, even though I'd rather have him get scanned because if he's good he's way too helpful to have around.

[claphamsa]

hoops... no. I dont really suspect you at all! I might... vote for you, but only if you tried to take my meade....

vote jackall

Ive played with him a number of times.... and hes very good at this. and very analytical! here he has been..... not.

I will trade votes for liquor! (im drinking tonihgt cuzI cant tommorow! #1 Vs #2 @ Oxford! gotta be on my game....)

[hoopsguy]

Path, if you think you can mobilize another candidate, good luck. I've got four votes right now with seven people still out there so I'm less than optimistic about a to-be-named-candidate#3.

[claphamsa]

please ignor me. ijust triped over my remote

[Lathum]

This has turned into Ping: Drunk Guy

[claphamsa]

ping?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Lathum

This has turned into Ping: Drunk Guy

You rung???



Actually not drunk, but just got home. Got to spend time doing the BB-BBCF sim, and don't really see much different here to really call my attention.. so I'll be back after deadline to see what happened.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I wouldn't say that I'm sanguine about voting Jackal off, but I'm even less happy with the idea of voting hoops off without a little more to go on.

[claphamsa]

kinda agre.. at least hoops is trying? jackall is being not himself, for no reason! and we KNWO nothign. swhy im bidding on seer. Ill even throw in the head coachign gig at wyoming