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Old 04-04-2010, 07:25 PM   #701
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Old 04-04-2010, 07:26 PM   #702
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Depressing news. Guess this makes Okoung a lock at #4 then and Clausen drops a few more spots.
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Old 04-04-2010, 07:28 PM   #703
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Crazy trade. I don't see the Redskins being much better with McNAbb.
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Old 04-04-2010, 07:34 PM   #704
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McNabb has been traded to the redskins for the 37th pick this year and either 3 or 4 next year.

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NO! I can't believe they traded him in the division

Kolb better be great very soon.
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Old 04-04-2010, 07:40 PM   #705
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Well... the Redskins trading up to get Bradford goes by the wayside.. I really wanted the Rams to get McNabb and I don't see why you would trade him in the same division.

The Rams might as well trade Steven Jackson, because I have the feeling they are going to draft Bradford and by the time he might make an impact, Jackson will be done.
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Old 04-04-2010, 07:42 PM   #706
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I am stunned that Philly traded him within the division.
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Old 04-04-2010, 07:45 PM   #707
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Old 04-04-2010, 07:59 PM   #708
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McNabb, Portis, Larry Johnson, and Willie Parker in the same backfield. COuld be interesting...
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Old 04-04-2010, 08:02 PM   #709
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McNabb, Portis, Larry Johnson, and Willie Parker in the same backfield. COuld be interesting...

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Old 04-04-2010, 08:07 PM   #710
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Maybe I missed something in the off-season, but - why were the Eagles so desperate to get rid of McNabb?

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Old 04-04-2010, 08:08 PM   #711
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Wow. WTF?

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Old 04-04-2010, 08:08 PM   #712
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Old 04-04-2010, 08:11 PM   #713
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I wonder where Campbell is going to go now - maybe St. Louis to start as Bradford develops?
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Old 04-04-2010, 08:11 PM   #714
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Wow. I'm in shock that McNabb would be traded to a division rival..for so little.

This must mean that the other offers for McNabb had to be really, really, low. Right?
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Old 04-04-2010, 08:12 PM   #715
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Maybe I missed something in the off-season, but - why were the Eagles so desperate to get rid of McNabb?

They're in love with Kolb. No different than the Favre/Aaron Rodgers scenario with the Packers a few years ago. McNabb was never completely Reid's guy, but Kolb is everything Reid/Banner want in a quarterback.
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Old 04-04-2010, 08:31 PM   #716
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Hell of a team -........3 years ago

With Shanahan as the coach, there might be some mileage left in the backs. He was able to do wonders with a RB-by-committee in Denver. It'll be interesting to see if he can get something out of that trio plus McNabb taking the snaps with Campbell learning from him.
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Old 04-04-2010, 08:32 PM   #717
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I have to echo the sentiment about trading him to a divisional rival. Definitely a WTF? move.
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Old 04-04-2010, 08:51 PM   #718
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Well...this is interesting. I've come to grips with him being traded, but the Redskins is a bit of a surprise. This will make watching the local game a bit easier though.
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Old 04-04-2010, 08:56 PM   #719
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Eagles are stockpiling draft picks it seems.

This was a Friday trade, but I didn't see it posted here, so I thought it was interesting combined with the McNabb news.

Eagles*trade Sheldon Brown, Chris Gocong to Browns - NFL - SI.com
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Old 04-04-2010, 09:02 PM   #720
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NO! I can't believe they traded him in the division

Kolb better be great very soon.

+1

When I heard about Oakland I thought it was perfect so we wouldn't have to play him for 3 years.

I don't want to have to face him twice a year. Plus I wanted to be able to root for him if the Eagles season(s) went into the crapper. I sure can't do that with him being a Redskin.
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Old 04-04-2010, 09:02 PM   #721
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"With the addition of Larry Johnson, Willie Parker, and now Donovan Mcnabb you have to say the Redskins are the favorites to win the 2007 NFC east championship."

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Saw that posted on-line somewhere...which to that I have to add- I hear Marvin Harrison is still available.

But really I think this is a great trade for the Redskins. Still can't believe the eagles would ship a pro-bowl QB to a division Rival, surely they had to have other offers out there?
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Old 04-04-2010, 09:48 PM   #722
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Sad to see Fast Willie leave the Steelers. I was hoping that he would find a starting job if he left, but it looks like he will be the 2nd or 3rd option for the Redskins. I think he could probably find more carries in Pittsburgh than in Washington (assuming no injuries).
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Old 04-05-2010, 12:43 AM   #723
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Wow. I'm in shock that McNabb would be traded to a division rival..for so little.

This must mean that the other offers for McNabb had to be really, really, low. Right?

The other suitors that were even close to what the Eagles wanted were
Buffalo and Oakland and McNabb refused to go either and extend his contract.Basically he had the Eagles by the cajones and squeezing real hard if they wanted something back. The other option was cutting him because I just couldnt see him functioning in Philly anymore....
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Old 04-05-2010, 01:42 AM   #724
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Crazy trade, but as a Giants fan, pretty happy about it. If Kolb doesn't perform as the Eagles hope, they won't be nearly as effective, and McNabb will probably make the Skins more competitive, but I don't see him making them a dominant team. Should make for an interesting NFC East, although it usually is anyhow.
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Old 04-05-2010, 01:58 AM   #725
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McNabb, Portis, Larry Johnson, and Willie Parker in the same backfield. COuld be interesting...

Not really. It's Shanahan's MO. Gather as many backs as he can. Look for him to sign a couple more interesting also-rans to throw in the mix, and he'll draft a back with his first rounder, too.

That should insure that my frustration with him as a fantasy player will continue, to go hand in hand with my longstanding general dislike for him as a coach.
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Old 04-05-2010, 02:00 AM   #726
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McNAbb was due a $6 million roster bonus in May.


I am not understanding all the comments about Washington no longer drafting a QB with their 1st pick? I still believe they will be taking Clausen at number 4.

Not sure how adding a 35 year old QB would change the future plans of the Redskins. they still desperately need a franchise type QB for their future.
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Old 04-05-2010, 02:37 AM   #727
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I am not understanding all the comments about Washington no longer drafting a QB with their 1st pick? I still believe they will be taking Clausen at number 4.

Not sure how adding a 35 year old QB would change the future plans of the Redskins. they still desperately need a franchise type QB for their future.

He's 33 right now.
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He's 33 right now.
Your right. This year he will be 34 and playing in his 12 season.

I still believe the Redskins will go with Clausen in the draft.
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Old 04-05-2010, 06:17 AM   #729
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yeah, not real stoked about this one. if oakland is football hell than dc is purgatory. no amount of shanahan wizardry can make up for the holes in that roster. i'm sure they'll put a good squad together but it'll take time. be interesting to see if he signs long term.

at least the eagles blogosphere seems to be in full on wtf mode. so that's fun.
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Old 04-05-2010, 07:06 AM   #730
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Smart people, does this mean the Redskins draft something other than QB with that 1st round pick?
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Old 04-05-2010, 07:24 AM   #731
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If anything, I think this underscores the Skins desire to take a QB #1.
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Old 04-05-2010, 07:33 AM   #732
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Smart people, does this mean the Redskins draft something other than QB with that 1st round pick?

who knows. last time he took a qb in the first plummer took his ball and went home.
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Old 04-05-2010, 07:35 AM   #733
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Old 04-05-2010, 07:54 AM   #734
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Well one thing in the draft is for certain.

The Lions will take a WR in the first round.
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:28 AM   #735
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I just can't see the redskins taking a QB- they are signing old players- you don't do that to develop a QB- you get a stud LT, or DT and try to make a run in a small window. Now it wouldn't surprise me at all to see them jump back into the late 1st round to mid second round and pick up a 2nd tier QB.

Call my crazy but in 5 years I think Colt McCoy might be the best QB out of this draft.
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:45 AM   #736
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Wow...shocked that the Eagles have that much confidence in Kolb/Vick/whatever.

Does anybody see this as an opportunity for the Eagles to get rid of Reid? Or is Reid supposed to be an (the) advocate for this? I'm looking at it as if the Eagles go 6-10 or something (i.e. Kolb stinks/gets hurt, Vick stinks/gets hurt, they cant run the ball, defense is just average, etc.) this would give them the chance to bring in a coach they feel could get them a ring (where Reid could not).

Maybe thats just speculation but I really dont see why you make this move (to Washington) if you are Philly and you want to be competitive this year. They have to realize they are going to have 2 games this season (and thereafter) that are going to be even tougher to win than usual.
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:50 AM   #737
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Cuz beating Washington is usually such a tall order?
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:57 AM   #738
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I think you're all nuts if you think the Redskins draft a QB in the first round. Feel free to quote this if I am wrong.
All the experts are behind you on this. Everyone is now saying that the Redskins are no longer interested in drafting a QB in the 1st round.

If you look at the timing; hours after Clausen worked out in Washington the Redskins were on the phone overpaying for McNabb it looks like Washington has changed their minds a Clausen.

I still think drafting a QB, who could sit behind a veteran for a couple of years, in the 1st would be the smart move for the skins.
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:59 AM   #739
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As someone who has enjoyed the Eagles this past decade because fo Mcnabb, I'm no longer gonna root for the Eagles, or watch their games on TV when i get a better choice, because I want to see McNabb play.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:00 AM   #740
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I've seen this movie before in Washington. A new old coach comes in. The Danny convinces him that they are just a couple of big names away from winning this thing. They trade a bunch of picks and spend a bunch of money acquiring the aforementioned big names that will surely put them over the top. Then they lose, just like they have done since this guy bought the team.

I will say that there is no team more exciting to watch in the offseason than the Washington Football Team.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:03 AM   #741
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I still think drafting a QB, who could sit behind a veteran for a couple of years, in the 1st would be the smart move for the skins.

Although I generally agree, it would be hard to draft a guy #4 and sit him for 3-4 years with the amount of money you'd be paying him. I do think they will draft a QB of the future because the word is they are convinced that it isn't Colt Brennan, but I would expect him to be a later 1st day pick.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:11 AM   #742
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I think you're all nuts if you think the Redskins draft a QB in the first round. Feel free to quote this if I am wrong.

I agree. No way do you take a QB #4 overall in this day and age when you just traded for a quality QB that has 3 or 4 years left at least.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:14 AM   #743
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:15 AM   #744
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Although I generally agree, it would be hard to draft a guy #4 and sit him for 3-4 years with the amount of money you'd be paying him. I do think they will draft a QB of the future because the word is they are convinced that it isn't Colt Brennan, but I would expect him to be a later 1st day pick.
I said a couple not 3-4 years. McNabb should be able to squeak out a couple years. I don't seek McNabb in the NFL in 4 years at age 38.


BTW. They had their QB of the future on their team last year, and his name was Chase Daniel, before they cut him. Now all Chase has is his Super Bowl ring for memories of his first year in the NFL.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:18 AM   #745
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I can only imagine what the fury will be in Philly should the Redskins now beat the Eagles twice this season and/or beat them in a late in the year game (and you know there will be one scheduled for late in the season now) and knock them out of the playoffs. I don't really have a problem with trading McNabb-he's closer to the end of his career than the start and never won the Super Bowl despite his playoff appearances. But trading a still very good QB to a divisional rival that only increases that team's chances of doing better in the division now? Don't get it, unless it really was the only offer they got. I still trade him to Buffalo or Oakland even if the deal wasn't as good over Washington.

You don't honor a players years of service by trading him to where its a good fit for him first if it means trading him to a team you'll have to face at least twice during the season and potentially hurting your team in the process.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:21 AM   #746
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who knows. last time he took a qb in the first plummer took his ball and went home.

Cutler?
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:25 AM   #747
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I've seen this movie before in Washington. A new old coach comes in. The Danny convinces him that they are just a couple of big names away from winning this thing. They trade a bunch of picks and spend a bunch of money acquiring the aforementioned big names that will surely put them over the top. Then they lose, just like they have done since this guy bought the team.

My sentiments exactly. They try to NY Yankee their way to success with assembled shiny baubles and most often fail.

I'm torn about how much impact this has on Washington -- they didn't give up all that much to land him, but 11 seasons is an awful lot of mileage.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:27 AM   #748
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You don't honor a players years of service by trading him to where its a good fit for him first if it means trading him to a team you'll have to face at least twice during the season and potentially hurting your team in the process.

Unless you are the Patriots sending Bledsoe to the Bills, giggling to yourself while Bills fans jack off all over themselves in anticipation.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:29 AM   #749
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You don't honor a players years of service by trading him to where its a good fit for him first if it means trading him to a team you'll have to face at least twice during the season and potentially hurting your team in the process.

It was already mentioned in this thread, but is worth mentioning again. McNabb has to agree to sign an extension to make this trade work, and I think Washington was the only team he was willing to do that with. I don't blame him when the other options are Buffalo and Oakland.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:35 AM   #750
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Cutler?

right. maybe that's in the back of shanny's mind. maybe not. depends on if this is just a one year rental. i still think mcnabb wants to go to zona.

according to the internetz he had the choice of dc or oak. minus the stigma, oak didn't look that bad from what little i saw of them last year. shurg
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