The Trump Presidency – 2016

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by mckerney

Unless you're Donald Trump.

I'm sure he'll delete all his tweets now that he supported Gillespie

[cuervo72]

Had to work in that golf course plug.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by mckerney

Danica Roem wins in Virginia, becoming first openly transgender state representative - The Washington Post

The author of a trans bathroom bill in Virginia lost his seat to a transgender woman.

what a sweet victory for Roem.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by mckerney

Unless you're Donald Trump.

Ed Gillespie worked hard but did not embrace me or what I stand for. Don’t forget, Republicans won 4 out of 4 House seats, and with the economy doing record numbers, we will continue to win, even bigger than before!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 8, 2017

This is me when I agree with the worship leader we should try that tricky new song, but then it really bombs. pic.twitter.com/sGtRkXMgOt

— Ed Stetzer (@edstetzer) November 8, 2017

[JonInMiddleGA]

Trump's (or whomever said it) comment about Gillespie not being Trump enough may not be as crazy as it sounds.

The young man (25) I mentioned seeking a state house seat here as an (R) ran to the middle, indeed his highest profile backers were the (D) mayor of Athens and a long-time black (D) county commissioner ... just got beat up by an underfunded 0% chance hispanic lawyer. He didn't make great use of his 3:1 warchest advantage, kept things generic ... and got his butt beat.

He underperformed Trump in both the conservative county in the district AND in the liberal home of the university. Turnout from the (R) side looks low, turnout from the (D) ran extraordinarily high (how much a local sales tax referendum played into that is still unclear, votes from around the county still being counted). His approach gave conservatives little reason to be motivated to vote, and it cost him -- and the party -- a seat in the legislature. The %s were virtually identical opposites in the 2 counties, the turnout difference was heavily skewed to the left, which is highly unusual.

Another curiosity about the results: vote totals swung way back in favor of election-day voting instead of early voting. Odd to see that happen when the trend has been solidly the other direction. Nothing to indicate anything untoward about that, the %s were consistent across the board, I just though the reversal of the trend was interesting from a behavioral standpoint.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Is there anyway at all that the UCLA shoplifting incident timed with the Trump east Asia tour will somehow result in a war of words between Trump and Lavar Ball?

Please tell me there is. I would find this immensely satisfying.

I second this.

[JPhillips]

If you remember the news reporter that was shot while on-air, her boyfriend won a VA delegate seat.

[cuervo72]

Man. That seems like it was like fifty notable shootings ago.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

If you remember the news reporter that was shot while on-air, her boyfriend won a VA delegate seat.

Hurst won on a gun control platform in a strong red area. He's one of more than 10 first time D candidates to win in VA this year.

http://www.roanoke.com/news/politics...e099653f4.html

[JPhillips]

A few predictions based on tonight:

More on the fence GOPers retire instead of face this electorate

National Dems even more unlikely to compromise on anything

More GOPers, especially in the House, are willing to publicly criticize Trump

A lot of ugly GOP primaries in 2018

[JonInMiddleGA]

Got some more of the local numbers in our little microcosm

It was, in the end, about turnout (gee, does that sound familiar)
Left county turnout was 26%
Right county turnout was 22% (and 12 & 11 in counties that have just a tiny piece of this district)

It should be a gotta-show-up wakeup call for the right in GA. No bets on whether it will be.

[CrescentMoonie]

Think of the message that Trump has sent to Republicans. Stand with him on policy and have him bad-mouth what you passed. Embrace his endorsement and see a loss followed by Trump playing down the endorsement. Embrace his endorsement and his politics, and see a loss and words of criticism.

Trump just made a bad night for Republicans much worse for himself - The Washington Post

[RainMaker]

Seems like younger voters actually got out. Wonder if they'll still be motivated in 2018.

Still think red states get redder over the next few years but those purple states like Virginia could see some upheaval.

[CrescentMoonie]

Still some uncalled races, but the VA House of Delegates may have actually flipped. Started at 66/34 R yesterday. Latest numbers look like 48/47 D with 5 uncalled/probable recounts. If they stay as they are, it's 50/50.

That's an enormous change in one night.

[Edward64]

On a side note, just my own observation and personal opinion ...

I used to enjoy watching Morning Joe because I thought they did a good job of presenting both sides. It's now bash Trump for 3 hours, and while I think Trump has alot more bad than good, its getting pretty tiresome.

And when I change to Fox and Friends for a "breath/change of fresh air", the word that comes to mind is "sniveling".

CNN was what I thought did the best job of "fair and balanced". I know alot of people thought CNN was bad even before but I never thought so. But its now leaning heavily left (although not as bad as MSNBC).

Taking aside your personal politics, has anyone found a "fair and balanced" news program (not necessarily channel).



FWIW, I also enjoy Colbert's beginning monologues & video clips, its pretty funny but there just tends to be too much, consistent let's make fun of Trump. Starting to watch Jimmy Fallon now.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

Still some uncalled races, but the VA House of Delegates may have actually flipped. Started at 66/34 R yesterday. Latest numbers look like 48/47 D with 5 uncalled/probable recounts. If they stay as they are, it's 50/50.

That's an enormous change in one night.

That's crazy.

[panerd]

Originally Posted by Edward64

On a side note, just my own observation and personal opinion ...

I used to enjoy watching Morning Joe because I thought they did a good job of presenting both sides. It's now bash Trump for 3 hours, and while I think Trump has alot more bad than good, its getting pretty tiresome.

And when I change to Fox and Friends for a "breath/change of fresh air", the word that comes to mind is "sniveling".

CNN was what I thought did the best job of "fair and balanced". I know alot of people thought CNN was bad even before but I never thought so. But its now leaning heavily left (although not as bad as MSNBC).

Taking aside your personal politics, has anyone found a "fair and balanced" news program (not necessarily channel).



FWIW, I also enjoy Colbert's beginning monologues & video clips, its pretty funny but there just tends to be too much, consistent let's make fun of Trump. Starting to watch Jimmy Fallon now.

I always say watch all the ones you mentioned for a clear picture of Washington DC. Fox shows you what really goes on with the Democrats and MCNBC/CNN show you the reality of the GOP. Put the two together and that is our government.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by Edward64

On a side note, just my own observation and personal opinion ...

I used to enjoy watching Morning Joe because I thought they did a good job of presenting both sides. It's now bash Trump for 3 hours, and while I think Trump has alot more bad than good, its getting pretty tiresome.

And when I change to Fox and Friends for a "breath/change of fresh air", the word that comes to mind is "sniveling".

CNN was what I thought did the best job of "fair and balanced". I know alot of people thought CNN was bad even before but I never thought so. But its now leaning heavily left (although not as bad as MSNBC).

Taking aside your personal politics, has anyone found a "fair and balanced" news program (not necessarily channel).



FWIW, I also enjoy Colbert's beginning monologues & video clips, its pretty funny but there just tends to be too much, consistent let's make fun of Trump. Starting to watch Jimmy Fallon now.

Originally Posted by panerd

I always say watch all the ones you mentioned for a clear picture of Washington DC. Fox shows you what really goes on with the Democrats and MCNBC/CNN show you the reality of the GOP. Put the two together and that is our government.

LOL, pretty much this, just knowing each will add a lot of hyperbole in their attempts to prop up and bash.

I also like to go to the Al Jazeera English web site, which I think is fairly balanced most of the time and I listen to BBC news as well.

[PilotMan]

Reuters

[JPhillips]

I wonder if this will cause Fox to back off attacking any GOPer that isn't 100% pro-Trump. I don't expect them to ever go anti-Trump, but just allowing space for GOPers to distance themselves from Trump could make a difference.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

I wonder if this will cause Fox to back off attacking any GOPer that isn't 100% pro-Trump. I don't expect them to ever go anti-Trump, but just allowing space for GOPers to distance themselves from Trump could make a difference.

Why on earth would they want to do that? They're not in the business of getting Republican/conservative candidates elected. They're in the business of making money for Fox News.

[Marc Vaughan]

I tend to watch/read the BBC as its fairly balanced in the main, I also enjoy the Guardian and the Telegraph as they have interesting articles but they lean somewhat left and right respectively.

If you're interested in bias in UK newspapers/sites this might be useful:

UK Newspaper bias chart

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Why on earth would they want to do that? They're not in the business of getting Republican/conservative candidates elected. They're in the business of making money for Fox News.

But they're also in the business of friendly regulations and tax laws, and a Dem slaughter doesn't help with that. Like I said, I don't expect them to stop being all in on Trump, but perhaps they'll stop being all in on anti-anti-Trump.

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

But they're also in the business of friendly regulations and tax laws

Not really. Keep your eye on the ball here, people. Cash money, brother.

[Edward64]

CBO says $1.7T added

GOP Tax Plan Would Add $1 Trillion To National Debt | HuffPost

The House Republican tax reform plan would add $1.7 trillion to the U.S. national debt, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

The CBO released its review of the bill, the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, on Wednesday.

The figure comes in higher than the party’s own estimate of a $1.5 trillion increase.

[miked]

My students are all freaking out because in part of the new tax plan, tuition waivers are considered taxable income. So if they are at GT and their PhD advisor is paying $20k in tuition annually, or tuition is comped by the University, it will be taxable income. Awesome for attracting doctoral students who are already paid minimum wage.

[QuikSand]

Congratulations to all of the ”DEPLORABLES” and the millions of people who gave us a MASSIVE (304-227) Electoral College landslide victory! pic.twitter.com/7ifv5gT7Ur

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 8, 2017

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

Congratulations to all of the ”DEPLORABLES” and the millions of people who gave us a MASSIVE (304-227) Electoral College landslide victory! pic.twitter.com/7ifv5gT7Ur

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 8, 2017

I guess the good news is we only get two more of these anniversary celebrations. He is such a vain motherfucker.

[larrymcg421]

I'm just glad that the DFA's moronic outburst had no affect on the VA Gov election.

[CrescentMoonie]

Satire (mostly):

Emergency DEFCON 1 Rating Declared As Trump Given 280 Characters On Twitter

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

Not really. Keep your eye on the ball here, people. Cash money, brother.

Yeah, but Rupert and sons have a lot more going on than just Fox News.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by miked

My students are all freaking out because in part of the new tax plan, tuition waivers are considered taxable income. So if they are at GT and their PhD advisor is paying $20k in tuition annually, or tuition is comped by the University, it will be taxable income. Awesome for attracting doctoral students who are already paid minimum wage.

My understanding is that this would also effect students who get free tuition as children of employees, so one of my main benefits will lose a lot of its value to me.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

My understanding is that this would also effect students who get free tuition as children of employees, so one of my main benefits will lose a lot of its value to me.

Me, too. I've put two (and a half) kids through college without any debt thanks to our 50% tuition benefit. Take that perk away from many educational professionals, and salary trade off for working in the educational sector vs. the private sector starts to look substantially less attractive.

[CrescentMoonie]

Should be able to read this with a private window. DOJ trying to force TW to drop CNN before approving the AT&T merger.

US regulators demand CNN sale to approve AT&T-Time Warner deal

Here's the Politico version.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ump-cnn-244697

[Ben E Lou]

Now this is, uh, interesting...

Frank Thorp V on Twitter: "👀

Sen @BobCorker announces Authority to Order the Use of Nuclear Weapons Hearing https://t.co/XKfnj5QyW6"

[cuervo72]

Not as exciting as Ben's link, but:

Is Administration Objecting to Big Merger to Punish CNN?

[BBT]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Taking aside your personal politics, has anyone found a "fair and balanced" news program (not necessarily channel).

I know you’re looking for a program, but I saw this out on Twitter last year and the topic reminded me of it. May help:

[Coffee Warlord]

CNN at the very least has moved quite a bit to the left since that graphic was made.

[JPhillips]

I saw a chart where tax increases in the GOP plan equal 99 billion and tax cuts for the top 1% equal 100 billion. It's trickle up economics.

[cartman]

A little late to the game, but I saw the perfect name for the Rand Paul/neighbor thing:

Atlas Shrubbed

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by cartman

A little late to the game, but I saw the perfect name for the Rand Paul/neighbor thing:

Atlas Shrubbed

I have no idea what happened with the Rand Paul thing. But I have loved the two reactions I've seen from folks.

(1) This is obviously a cover story; no one breaks a neighbor's ribs over lawn issues.

(2) It makes perfect sense to me that you would break a man's ribs over lawn issues.

And both sides are being completely serious. It's definitely a "there are two kinds of people . . . " sort of thing.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I have no idea what happened with the Rand Paul thing. But I have loved the two reactions I've seen from folks.

(1) This is obviously a cover story; no one breaks a neighbor's ribs over lawn issues.

(2) It makes perfect sense to me that you would break a man's ribs over lawn issues.

And both sides are being completely serious. It's definitely a "there are two kinds of people . . . " sort of thing.

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I have no idea what happened with the Rand Paul thing. But I have loved the two reactions I've seen from folks.

(1) This is obviously a cover story; no one breaks a neighbor's ribs over lawn issues.

(2) It makes perfect sense to me that you would break a man's ribs over lawn issues.

And both sides are being completely serious. It's definitely a "there are two kinds of people . . . " sort of thing.

great, great post here

[QuikSand]

Fairly long item here, but this guy (a NeverTrump R, btw) just crushes Carter Page and along the way the entire Trump battalion, part and present. Fun read.

Attention Required! | Cloudflare

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

Fairly long item here, but this guy (a NeverTrump R, btw) just crushes Carter Page and along the way the entire Trump battalion, part and present. Fun read.

Attention Required! | Cloudflare

Wow, that is one hell of an opening paragraph.

Watching Carter Page immolate himself and incriminate a half dozen of his colleagues from the Trump-Putin 2016 campaign has been a strange, almost guilty pleasure. Profoundly disconnected, socially awkward, and reeking of late-stage virginity, he gives off the creepy Uncanny Valley vibe of a rogue, possibly murderous android or of a man with a too-extensive knowledge of human taxidermy and a soundproofed van.

[mckerney]

The Senate says they don't want to pass corporate tax cuts that will go into effect before 2019, Bill Cassidy won't vote on a tax plan that includes repealing the individual mandate.

Senate to delay corporate tax cut, breaking with Trump and House | TheHill

Tax reform by Thanksgiving not off to a good start.

[mckerney]

Trump claiming he doesn't have any time to watch TV because he's too busy reading documents might be his most absurd lie yet.

[larrymcg421]

Trump says he asked Putin again about interfering in the election and Putin denied it. Well, that's good enough for me. Let's move on to something else.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Trump says he asked Putin again about interfering in the election and Putin denied it. Well, that's good enough for me. Let's move on to something else.

I'm just left now confused than every after Russia denied Putin denied it saying the topic never came up between them.

[Autumn]

Classic, every time Trump tries to brown nose Putin, Putin throws him under the bus. But Trump just can't quit him.