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Old 11-06-2020, 03:46 AM   #7251
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Also that Georgia run-off rule is dumb. It seems like Perdue is going to finish at something like 49.8% or so. All of this could be solved rather easily by ranked choice voting.

The other seat is obviously a lot more messy.
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Old 11-06-2020, 03:52 AM   #7252
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Gorbachev is still alive? Wow.
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Old 11-06-2020, 03:57 AM   #7253
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Also so weird that the Dem in the Alaska Senate race is claiming he'll win after the votes are counted. He's losing by 30 plus points.
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Old 11-06-2020, 04:03 AM   #7254
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Not hearing any numbers, but Clayton County isn't done yet.
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Old 11-06-2020, 04:06 AM   #7255
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ABC just reported that Biden's up 900 in Georgia.
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Old 11-06-2020, 04:47 AM   #7256
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Biden now up 1096 in GA.
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Old 11-06-2020, 04:48 AM   #7257
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Annnnnd boom goes the dynamite.




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Old 11-06-2020, 05:18 AM   #7258
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Sounds like there are around 4500 ballots left in Gwinnett County. It's a large, diverse, mostly suburban county on the northeast side of metro Atlanta, 53% white, some wealth. It has leaned somewhat D this year (58-40 Biden). Theoretically, those outstanding votes could break either way, but practically, as we've seen elsewhere, Ds are voting by mail and Rs aren't. I'm gonna guess something like a 75-25 split for Biden in Gwinnett, netting him another 2,000 votes. Georgia will probably have a recount, but this is getting into territory where it seems highly unlikely to change the outcome.
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Old 11-06-2020, 05:22 AM   #7259
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Old 11-06-2020, 05:44 AM   #7260
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My guess is NV + GA later today or Sat at the latest. PA (and/or AZ as a bonus) sometime this weekend.

We have a new President.

What a freaking exciting election. Let's do it again soon.

BTW - I really, really want to see Fauci by Biden's side sometime very soon. Not sure if Fauci is allowed to do it though.

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Old 11-06-2020, 05:46 AM   #7261
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There were a lot of surprises this election, but Georgia being to the left of NC is one of the bigger ones for me.

I could have seen them both blue. I could have seen them both red. But if you told me there was going to be a split, I would have never predicted it coming out this way.
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Old 11-06-2020, 05:48 AM   #7262
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Old 11-06-2020, 05:48 AM   #7263
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There were a lot of surprises this election, but Georgia being to the left of NC is one of the bigger ones for me.

I could have seen them both blue. I could have seen them both red. But if you told me there was going to be a split, I would have never predicted it coming out this way.

The voting demographics will be fascinating.
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Old 11-06-2020, 06:05 AM   #7264
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*sigh*


"Fraud" seems to be just assumed by large quarters of the right now. I suspect the backlash is going to be worse than I was thinking.
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Old 11-06-2020, 06:13 AM   #7265
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Old 11-06-2020, 06:14 AM   #7266
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Well, unlike their usual claims of fraud, they'll either have to prove it in court or shut up
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Old 11-06-2020, 06:15 AM   #7267
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Personally, I look forward to people presenting themselves to me as "fraudsters", it more easily allows me to adjust my expectations of them.
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Old 11-06-2020, 06:21 AM   #7268
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Also that Georgia run-off rule is dumb. It seems like Perdue is going to finish at something like 49.8% or so. All of this could be solved rather easily by ranked choice voting.

The other seat is obviously a lot more messy.

Florida voted down the amendment to change to this system this year.

But my neighbors to the north are about to get their own stimulus package with the money that will be pumped into that state over the next two months.

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Let's do it again soon.

BTW - I really, really want to see Fauci by Biden's side sometime very soon. Not sure if Fauci is allowed to do it though.

It has been a great civics lesson but nah, I have no desire to go through this anytime soon. Why wouldn't Fauci be allowed to be by Biden's side?

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The voting demographics will be fascinating.

I agree with this. What has been incredibly encouraging about this election for me has been how many people have decided to be part of the process. I prefer the citizens make their voices heard by voting rather than staying away from the polls.
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Old 11-06-2020, 06:28 AM   #7269
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Old 11-06-2020, 06:53 AM   #7270
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I can't believe anyone would underestimate what a Trump supporter believes after all this time.

When they've been told by Trump himself for MONTHS that he can't lose except by fraud, when they have faith leaders telling them Trump's presidency is ordained by God, and when they all truly believed this was going to be a landslide for Trump (Aubrey Huff isn't an outlier, he's just one of the most public outliers)... this was always a recipe for disaster. UNLESS Trump got killed in the vote. And too many people chose their 401K or fear of (in my opinion) an incremental move in the "socialist" direction over governmental stability and sanity.

I'm disgusted more by people like my brother and other normal, good, smart people who aren't fooled by what Trump is and still chose self-interest or the fear of a socialist bogeyman. My parents... they're gone. They're old, scared, and easily manipulated. This is basically one gigantic phone scam, and the elderly and uneducated always get duped. I've written them off. The rest can go to hell. We'll only survive this immediate crisis if we get lucky, not because the system "works." The system is broken.
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Old 11-06-2020, 07:00 AM   #7271
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It has been a great civics lesson but nah, I have no desire to go through this anytime soon. Why wouldn't Fauci be allowed to be by Biden's side?

I agree with this. What has been incredibly encouraging about this election for me has been how many people have decided to be part of the process. I prefer the citizens make their voices heard by voting rather than staying away from the polls.

For the first point: Not sure of legality or "allowed", but first and foremost he isn't a freelance serving on the taskforce but his day job is as head of an institute within HHS. So might well be a chance that this prohibits him from taking any official role on a transition team on way or another ? Aparently it's not the same as being, say, HHS director (or FBI or whatever) , otherwise Trump could actually fire him, but how different ?

for the second: I'll be very interested in studies/analysis on how the increase in turnout corresponds with enhancements in 'convenience' and/or access as well on both state and county level (or just existing more conveniency laws). Which also includes stuff like drive-in dropoff etc. Surely there are smart people who can take this and quantify it. Dunno which states really had a net positive in that regard (like how some extended more service in some areas but made it stricter in others as we got closer, looking at Texas for example) but would be interesting to see.
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Old 11-06-2020, 07:00 AM   #7272
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"Fraud" seems to be just assumed by large quarters of the right now. I suspect the backlash is going to be worse than I was thinking.

Makes sense. If you don't actually believe in government, why would you believe that anything involving the government is legit.
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Old 11-06-2020, 07:02 AM   #7273
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When they've been told by Trump himself for MONTHS that he can't lose except by fraud, when they have faith leaders telling them Trump's presidency is ordained by God, and when they all truly believed this was going to be a landslide for Trump (Aubrey Huff isn't an outlier, he's just one of the most public outliers)... this was always a recipe for disaster.

And this is why I'll be honestly shocked if we don't end up with a few major acts of domestic terrorism over the next 2 years or so. It might sound like "alarmism" or "fear-mongering", but I don't think so considering the FBI has already stopped one recently, and Trump isn't going to stop his rhetoric any time soon and Biden winning is going to enrage his followers even more.
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Old 11-06-2020, 07:03 AM   #7274
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Amazing news to wake up to today!! Now we have to see how many votes come in today but this lead will probably grow through the day a little bit.

A lot of folks are, as they should, thankful to Stacey Abrams for registering so many people to vote the last 2 years. This victory is hers as well.

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Old 11-06-2020, 07:10 AM   #7275
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So if/when Biden is declared the winner:

1. Months of litigation - will Republicans leadership support him?
2. Inauguration - will there be Republicans present?
3. Twitter - will it lock Trump out once he's a "civilian" for anything inflammatory?
4. When he goes on his rallies to state he was mobbed and argues for insurrection, will he be arrested?
5. Will Fox News and OAN or any other right wing site support him and will there be any means by the government to discredit?

I mean when the source of all potential domestic terrorism is the prior president, what do you do?
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Old 11-06-2020, 07:13 AM   #7276
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Old 11-06-2020, 07:14 AM   #7277
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Old 11-06-2020, 07:23 AM   #7279
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The guy had a QAnon hat?

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Old 11-06-2020, 07:32 AM   #7280
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So if/when Biden is declared the winner:

1. Months of litigation - will Republicans leadership support him? to their death $$$
2. Inauguration - will there be Republicans present? 1 (Justice Roberts)
3. Twitter - will it lock Trump out once he's a "civilian" for anything inflammatory? not a chance $$$
4. When he goes on his rallies to state he was mobbed and argues for insurrection, will he be arrested? No. All of those that run forces, are the same that burn crosses
5. Will Fox News and OAN or any other right wing site support him and will there be any means by the government to discredit? undying support

I mean when the source of all potential domestic terrorism is the prior president, what do you do?
You left out

6. Will there be a dual attempt on the lives of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris?
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Old 11-06-2020, 07:37 AM   #7281
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You left out

6. Will there be a dual attempt on the lives of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris?

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Old 11-06-2020, 07:44 AM   #7282
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At least get it right

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Old 11-06-2020, 07:45 AM   #7283
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Serious question, at what point will the Trump lawsuits fizzle out? All Biden needs is AZ and NV, and those are viewed as the least "fraudulent" right now. GA lead is certainly susceptible to challenges/recount, and PA margin will probably be in the 20k Wisconsin-y area when it's all done. Trump has to get 3 of those results thrown out to win. It's just not going to happen.

It's like a parlay in betting... the odds of one may not be terrible, but the odds of all 3 hitting at once? Not great. How long will it take before they realize this is not doable? All winter?
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Old 11-06-2020, 07:46 AM   #7284
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At least get it right

"Some of those that work forces..."

No, it was an intentional choice. Should have added brackets tho..
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No, it was an intentional choice. Should have added brackets tho..

Fair enough. Just giving you a hard time.
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Serious question, at what point will the Trump lawsuits fizzle out? All Biden needs is AZ and NV, and those are viewed as the least "fraudulent" right now. GA lead is certainly susceptible to challenges/recount, and PA margin will probably be in the 20k Wisconsin-y area when it's all done. Trump has to get 3 of those results thrown out to win. It's just not going to happen.

It's like a parlay in betting... the odds of one may not be terrible, but the odds of all 3 hitting at once? Not great. How long will it take before they realize this is not doable? All winter?

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Serious question, at what point will the Trump lawsuits fizzle out? All Biden needs is AZ and NV, and those are viewed as the least "fraudulent" right now. GA lead is certainly susceptible to challenges/recount, and PA margin will probably be in the 20k Wisconsin-y area when it's all done. Trump has to get 3 of those results thrown out to win. It's just not going to happen.

It's like a parlay in betting... the odds of one may not be terrible, but the odds of all 3 hitting at once? Not great. How long will it take before they realize this is not doable? All winter?

Follow the money.
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Serious question, at what point will the Trump lawsuits fizzle out? All Biden needs is AZ and NV, and those are viewed as the least "fraudulent" right now.

But maybe only because Trumps team thinks he will still win AZ and NV has so few electoral votes it doesn't much matter (by itself) due to low number of Electoral Votes, no ?
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Old 11-06-2020, 07:54 AM   #7295
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Old 11-06-2020, 07:56 AM   #7297
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Old 11-06-2020, 07:57 AM   #7298
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So how's the Senate turning out? Do Democrats have any shot at those Georgia seats?
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Old 11-06-2020, 07:58 AM   #7299
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It looks like they are both going to be runoffs, which means it's likely to be 50-48 in the Senate until that happens in January.
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Old 11-06-2020, 08:00 AM   #7300
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