2020 Democratic Primaries/General Election Thread

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

If you want to win in 2024 as a Republican. I would probably start saying something. Just saying.

— Brad Parscale (@parscale) November 6, 2020

Not so sure about this. "The election was stolen" might be the 2024 platform.

[Brian Swartz]

This thread took an interesting turn. Also on the tweet that KSyrup linked, how about ...

Originally Posted by Rick Santorum

Using the word “fraud” [to describe] people counting votes is wrong.

Get the feeling that's not what they want said, but it's what's most likely to get me to vote for a Republican next time.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Not so sure about this. "The election was stolen" might be the 2024 platform.

It worked for Andrew Jackson after all.

[Butter]

PA just dropped under 60k gap for the first time

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by sabotai

PA dashboard just updated. 250k left to count, 64k difference. Really feels like it's going to be razor thin.,

If he takes 70% of the 250K, he gets 175K to 75K for Trump. Biden wins by 35-40K.

[cartman]

Just saw someone call it the Pettysburg Address

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

If he takes 70% of the 250K, he gets 175K to 75K for Trump. Biden wins by 35-40K.

Yeah, I know, but I'm a pessimist.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

OK, how about a real world example. My brother moved from NC to RI 2 years ago. He received absentee ballot info from NC a couple months ago at his old address which got forwarded to him in RI. If he had decided to commit voter fraud and voted absentee in NC and in-person in RI, would anyone have figured it out?

I don't know, I'm legitimately curious.

One risk of doing that is getting tax departments involved in terms of where you live. Lying about residency in terms of taxes is a serious problem.

I'm sure there are a small number of voter fraud cases, we find a few every cycle, but there's no evidence of even hundreds of cases, so certainly nothing like the millions GOPers sometimes claim.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Not so sure about this. "The election was stolen" might be the 2024 platform.

He means to line up with Trump so they can get his 2024 blessing (after Trump wins here), right?

[Butter]

The election was stolen didn't work out for the Dems in 2004, so good luck with that

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

He means to line up with Trump so they can get his 2024 blessing (after Trump wins here), right?

Yes.

Don Jr tweet-whined about none of the 2024 hopefuls backing Trump and immediately Cotton and Haley tweeted something.

[ISiddiqui]

53k lead in PA now.

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[Lathum]

I feel like I am watching a horse race where there is a furlong to go and you just know the horse in the lead is dead meat

[spleen1015]

Maybe we shouldn't know vote counts until after all of the votes have been counted or its pretty obvious who won a state.

What's wrong with that idea?

[spleen1015]

USA Today interfering with democracy!

Editor-in-chief @nicole_carroll on pulling the livestream of President Donald Trump's remarks tonight. pic.twitter.com/GPrQudnFjj

— USA TODAY (@USATODAY) November 6, 2020

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Maybe we shouldn't know vote counts until after all of the votes have been counted or its pretty obvious who won a state.

What's wrong with that idea?

Imagine how easy the projection would have been with a national popular vote!

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Maybe we shouldn't know vote counts until after all of the votes have been counted or its pretty obvious who won a state.

What's wrong with that idea?

Totally agree. I posted earlier here (I think) about the terminology we use - No one is "leading" or "behind," one of them won and one of them lost the minute voting was legally over. We just don't know who. There's no reason to concoct narratives based on where the vote is coming from or which ones are counted first.

If Biden wins AZ, he didn't "hold onto the lead," he had the most votes by a slim margin. Trump's not losing his lead in PA and GA. This isn't a real-time race played out over hours/days, we just need a one-time dump of the result.

[Butter]

The slow and steady release of votes was fine before Trump and it'll be fine after him.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Totally agree. I posted earlier here (I think) about the terminology we use - No one is "leading" or "behind," one of them won and one of them lost the minute voting was legally over.

This. It’s just a matter of those reporting on it using different words to convey the message. Nobody is winning or losing. It’s a game where the turns are out of order.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I can't tell if Kaitlen Collins on CNN is hot. She has a deep voice and may have a dick, but I'm kind of in to it.

Agreed she is smart looking hot.

[sterlingice]

So... Alaska? WTF?

The dynamics of the Alaska Senate race at this hour remain in a state of flux. With approximately 44.6 percent of the ballots not yet counted, we believe we will win once every vote has been counted in the state.
— Dr. Al Gross (@DrAlGrossAK) November 6, 2020

My quick math says he'd have to get like 73% of the mail-in vote. I mean, it doesn't seem likely, but like long-shot possible...?

SI

[kingfc22]

PA down to 50k difference now

[ISiddiqui]

Less than 2,500 lead in GA

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[kingfc22]

Folks in Georgia deserve a comeback win. Might as well be this one.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

So... Alaska? WTF?

The dynamics of the Alaska Senate race at this hour remain in a state of flux. With approximately 44.6 percent of the ballots not yet counted, we believe we will win once every vote has been counted in the state.
— Dr. Al Gross (@DrAlGrossAK) November 6, 2020

My quick math says he'd have to get like 73% of the mail-in vote. I mean, it doesn't seem likely, but like long-shot possible...?

SI

Yeah, hard to tell if this is just bluster or something real.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

PA down to 50k difference now

And by my count, there is ~215k votes left to report.

[HerRealName]

Originally Posted by sabotai

And by my count, there is ~215k votes left to report.

Are there still 70K or so outstanding in Philadelphia? I've lost track

[sovereignstar v2]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Folks in Georgia deserve a comeback win. Might as well be this one.

No.

[rjolley]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Folks in Georgia deserve a comeback win. Might as well be this one.

Well done, sir. Well done.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

So... Alaska? WTF?

The dynamics of the Alaska Senate race at this hour remain in a state of flux. With approximately 44.6 percent of the ballots not yet counted, we believe we will win once every vote has been counted in the state.
— Dr. Al Gross (@DrAlGrossAK) November 6, 2020

My quick math says he'd have to get like 73% of the mail-in vote. I mean, it doesn't seem likely, but like long-shot possible...?

SI

Alaska has such a unique electorate, it’s probably hard to take anything we know and apply it there. A lot depends on how well Alaska GOPers listened to Trump on the mail ins, but there sure seem like a lot of 75-25 Dem to GOP mail in batches.

[GrantDawg]

That game is number three of the best games ever, right behind the 1995 World Series game 6 and the 1980 Sugar Bowl. We get so few great games.

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[Edward64]

I'm thinking AZ is going Trump.

So hopefully Biden gets NV + GA tomorrow and PA whenever.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by HerRealName

Are there still 70K or so outstanding in Philadelphia? I've lost track

As of the time of this tweet (3 hours ago) they were saying about 60k votes left in Philly.

Now that Trump's PA lead is down to 75k, it's possible there are enough remaining ballots in Delaware, Lehigh, Bucks and Berks counties to erase that entire margin - even before more Philadelphia ballots are counted.

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) November 5, 2020

[kingfc22]

So Trump must be upset about AZ because those are clearly illegal votes just like in PA, right?

[GrantDawg]

Clayton county, Georgia says they will have their final 5.7k ballots counted by midnight. That will be about 5.5k Biden votes. That will put him well over the top.

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[spleen1015]

Well done Alabama. Well. Done.

The election results are out of control. It’s like the whistle has blown, the game is over, and the players have gone home, but the referees are suddenly adding touchdowns to the other team’s side of the scoreboard.

— Tommy Tuberville (@TTuberville) November 6, 2020

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Yeah, hard to tell if this is just bluster or something real.

Lisa Murkowski is up for re-election in 2022 and there have been some rumors that Sarah Palin may challenge her, so Gross may be building up a war chest to run again and improve his name recognition. Murkowski vs Palin seems like it could be one of those where Palin could win the GOP primary but be too extreme for the general election. Plus, Gross is a former Republican Independent.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Less than 2,500 lead in GA

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And the aforementioned Clayton county has 5700 votes to go. Those will be roughly 4700-1000 Biden.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by HerRealName

Are there still 70K or so outstanding in Philadelphia? I've lost track

Latest update on the PA dashboard, 208k left (so I was off a bit) and 72,677 in Philadelphia.

[GrantDawg]

I say higher. 90%+ Biden. The last I saw the Clayton regular count was like 83% Biden.

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[ISiddiqui]

Under 45k lead in PA now.

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[ISiddiqui]

Under 2k lead in GA.

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[Swaggs]

AZ Secretary of State says there are 200K left in Maricopa and 285K total in the state. So Trump needs to win the rest by about a 20% margin to get near Biden and higher to take a lead. He won the last batch in Maricopa by 14%.

Not sure where the other 85K are.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I say higher. 90%+ Biden. The last I saw the Clayton regular count was like 83% Biden.

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I was being conservative. You should know by now that I’m a bit more conservative than you.

[HerRealName]

Originally Posted by sabotai

Latest update on the PA dashboard, 208k left (so I was off a bit) and 72,677 in Philadelphia.

Thanks. Those AZ votes made me nervous but the experts seem to be saying Trump needed a bigger margin on that drop.

[Ksyrup]

Hey, Lindsay Graham trusts AZ vote counting but not PA for some reason...

[Ben E Lou]

Imagine being the one to tell Trump that a 70% black county drove the final nail in his electoral coffin. #WelcomeToAtlantaWhereThePlayasPlay

[JPhillips]

I'm absolutely shocked by how surprised my rural Ohio friends are at Trump losing. It really just never entered their thoughts that Trump could lose. Even after all of the polls and 2018, they were totally convinced Trump would win easily.

[21C]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Well done Alabama. Well. Done.

The election results are out of control. It’s like the whistle has blown, the game is over, and the players have gone home, but the referees are suddenly adding touchdowns to the other team’s side of the scoreboard.

— Tommy Tuberville (@TTuberville) November 6, 2020

Wouldn't that be like throwing the ball with 1 second left in the 4th quarter and the receiver catching it with time expired?

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

I'm absolutely shocked by how surprised my rural Ohio friends are at Trump losing. It really just never entered their thoughts that Trump could lose. Even after all of the polls and 2018, they were totally convinced Trump would win easily.

My parents thought it would be a landslide.