Soccer Thread 2016-17 - Page 14

cartman · 03-28-2017, 12:28 PM

Oof. Scored his first national team goal in his hometown area, then a few minutes later gets injured on a bad tackle. Looks like he is now out 4-6 months.

Sebastian Lleget out 4-6 months after foot surgery - Goal.com

MrBug708 · 03-28-2017, 02:21 PM

That's pretty brutal

RainMaker · 03-28-2017, 09:48 PM

Pulisic sure is something.

ISiddiqui · 03-29-2017, 07:51 AM

For missing half our starting lineup (not an exaggeration) including 3/4 of our starting back line, I am definitely glad at the point at Panama (then again away points in CONCACAF are always welcome, considering the 'quality' of the pitches and refs).

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Warhammer · 03-29-2017, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

For missing half our starting lineup (not an exaggeration) including 3/4 of our starting back line, I am definitely glad at the point at Panama (then again away points in CONCACAF are always welcome, considering the 'quality' of the pitches and refs).

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

Agreed, I'd rather be missing starting strikers than back liners.

Bisbo · 03-29-2017, 01:03 PM

Glad to get the point, I guess, but I thought we were back to the same disorganized mess that plagued the Klinsmann regime - lots of wild, long passes that went nowhere, little coordinated movement on offense.

CrescentMoonie · 03-29-2017, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman

Oof. Scored his first national team goal in his hometown area, then a few minutes later gets injured on a bad tackle. Looks like he is now out 4-6 months.

Sebastian Lleget out 4-6 months after foot surgery - Goal.com

I'm already looking forward to the update videos that show him working out during his recovery with the horrible pun "2 Lletget 2 Quit."

SirFozzie · 04-05-2017, 10:58 PM

Dog invades pitch and eludes capture in seven minute spree - ITV News

Ah, lower league footy (7th division england), Northern Premier League team Halesowen Town had a four legged invader spend seven minutes playing with all the humans who were kicking a ball around.

It turns out that the dog belonged to one of the players, who finally was able to snap a leash on the dog, and he was led off the field.

Actually, watching his moves, he might be the answer at right wing for Gareth Southgate...

No word on if the player... (puts on sunglasses).. ended up in the manager's doghouse.

A Pawse in play at the Grove: Un-Cut version - YouTube

AlexB · 04-06-2017, 01:06 AM

If only they had been playing Barking & Dagenham...

Young Drachma · 04-06-2017, 10:27 AM

Hoffenheim beats Bayern for the first time, but my Swans fall back into the relegation zone. Toluca leads the LigaMX Clausura table at the moment, at least and I suspect Depor and Sassuolo can manage to stay out of the relegation zone, though it'd be funny in a macabre way to root for multiple teams that fail to stay up.

SirFozzie · 04-08-2017, 11:09 AM

Not a bad goal in the lot for Spurs:

Tottenham 4-0 Watford: Spurs close in on Chelsea - ESPN FC

Critch · 04-08-2017, 01:37 PM

Brighton and Hove Albion are coming up, there, I've said it.

I've assumed they'd throw it away, slip out of the top two and then lose in the playoffs, but after this weekend it's going to happen. Brighton won at QPR yesterday(rode their luck a little to hold on at the end), then challengers Huddersfield and Newcastle Utd both lost today.

Brighton now 12 points clear of third place with 5 games to go (Huddersfield in third have 6 games left but the pressure has got to them) and all but set to take a place in the top division for the first time in 31 years. Will make a nice change watching on proper tv instead of relying on BeinSports to maybe show the game, or paying for Brighton's webcast.

Hope I'm not tempting fate.....

Young Drachma · 04-08-2017, 01:47 PM

Swansea looking not great, Hoffenheim likely to fall to 4th in the Bundesliga. Sassulo and Depor should stay up, but are towards bottom of their tables and Toluca still leads Liga MX.

kingfc22 · 04-10-2017, 08:26 PM

So does missing the Champions League finally get Wegner canned? Doubt it. This team needs fresh blood badly. Just look at Leicester to see what happened when new life is injected.

sovereignstar v2 · 04-10-2017, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

So does missing the Champions League finally get Wegner canned? Doubt it. This team needs fresh blood badly. Just look at Leicester to see what happened when new life is injected.

My Arsenal-supporting friend is totally convinced that Wenger is going to be back next season.

bhlloy · 04-11-2017, 01:01 AM

I have a friend who is generally decently well connected with sports rumors back home who says the same thing FWIW. I can't see it but he's convinced they are giving him an extension

law90026 · 04-11-2017, 05:36 AM

Wenger isn't leaving. He's got too big an ego to accept its his fault.

CrescentMoonie · 04-11-2017, 01:33 PM

Dortmund vs Monaco postponed due to multiple explosions near the Dortmund bus resulting in an injury to Marc Bartra sending him to the hospital.

SirFozzie · 04-14-2017, 09:23 AM

The Coventry/Charlton game was interrupted due to a flying pig invasion.

No, this is not a drug fueled dream, it looks like fans brought a ton of pig toys to the match, and threw them on the pitch.

BBC Sport on Twitter: "Another pig-ch invasion.

Coventry's match v Charlton has been delayed after just 30 seconds.

More details https://t.co/7qUbnRnJxW https://t.co/QH5cj8nGhC"

Easy Mac · 04-15-2017, 01:20 PM

Atletico benefited from 2 penalties within 2 minutes. The Osasuna keep saved them both. Of course, he's already down 3-0, but still deserves MotM.

JonInMiddleGA · 04-15-2017, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

The Coventry/Charlton game was interrupted due to a flying pig invasion.

And now for something completely different ...

JonInMiddleGA · 04-16-2017, 04:18 PM

WTF

Bastia-Lyon match abandoned after fans attack players on pitch - ESPN FC

NoSkillz · 04-17-2017, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Critch

Brighton and Hove Albion are coming up, there, I've said it.

I've assumed they'd throw it away, slip out of the top two and then lose in the playoffs, but after this weekend it's going to happen. Brighton won at QPR yesterday(rode their luck a little to hold on at the end), then challengers Huddersfield and Newcastle Utd both lost today.

Brighton now 12 points clear of third place with 5 games to go (Huddersfield in third have 6 games left but the pressure has got to them) and all but set to take a place in the top division for the first time in 31 years. Will make a nice change watching on proper tv instead of relying on BeinSports to maybe show the game, or paying for Brighton's webcast.

Hope I'm not tempting fate.....

You're not! Looks like it is all but official now. Pretty cool to have some new blood in the Premier League.

Critch · 04-17-2017, 02:30 PM

It's officially official now, Huddersfield failed to win at Derby so Brighton have clinched an EPL place. Well deserved after a couple of playoff disappointments over the last few years.

Now they just need to clinch the championship, 7 points clear of Newcastle with three games to go.

SirFozzie · 04-17-2017, 02:33 PM

it is official.

miked · 04-18-2017, 08:26 PM

So Bayern was a bit screwed today...

sovereignstar v2 · 04-18-2017, 08:51 PM

claphamsa · 04-18-2017, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by miked

So Bayern was a bit screwed today...

yeah, totally fixed

HomerSimpson98 · 04-19-2017, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miked

So Bayern was a bit screwed today...

Ive seen this on a few other sites and it baffles me. How were they screwed? By Vidal getting sent off? That dude walks a fine line everytime he steps on the pitch. He could have been given his 2nd yellow well before he finally got it. Yeah, the 2nd yellow was questionable after 20 slo-mo instant replays, but when it happened live, I thought it was an easy yellow.

And anyone with The Diver Robben on their side cant ever bitch about getting screwed by refs.

Critch · 04-19-2017, 09:13 AM

I would say Vidal was wrongly sent off (although he could have got a weak yellow card earlier), Casemiro should have been sent off (he had 2 or 3 incidents where he could have/should have received a second yellow), the Ronaldo goal that put them ahead was a yard or two offside, the Ronaldo goal to go to 3-2 was at least borderline offside.

Saying that, I watched the Nationals/Braves game last night so the ref's performance wasnt even the worst of the day.

miked · 04-19-2017, 10:16 AM

^^^ As was said above, Robben got a yellow for a flop in the corner that was meaningless, Casemiro had at least 2 flops and what should have been a yellow. Vidal may walk a fine line, but the foul that got him a yellow was absurd, he made no contact with the diver, and got the ball cleanly.

Oh, and Ronaldo was way offside on the go ahead goal. It was absurd officiating in the 2nd half and extra time that absolutely changed the entire outcome of the game.

HomerSimpson98 · 04-19-2017, 11:06 AM

Hey Mike, I agree in seeing the replay a few times that Vidal's tackle was clean. My point is that when it happened live, I thought it was an easy yellow. He has to be smarter than that (already on a yellow). I thought the ref did a fantastic job earlier in the 2nd when he could (and should) have probably got his 2nd yellow. You can imagine that Vidal was told "one more and you're done". And then he goes in with the high leg - it just looked bad.

Regarding the offsides, I dont see how any linesmen can get that right 100% of the time. With how fast these guys move and knowing the exact time the ball was kicked - almost impossible to naked eye.

The truth is that once Vidal was sent off, the outcome was inevitable. Bayern played with tons of heart (they always do), but RM has too much firepower to not punish a team of 10.

bhlloy · 04-19-2017, 12:01 PM

That's literally the only thing they are looking for, it shouldn't be that hard. I've worked the line at a semi-decent level back in the day, not that it was champions league speed but still. I understand how refs miss things with so much going on but I have a very hard time excusing linesmen missing offside calls in most situations (assuming they can be in position and there's nothing blocking them, neither of which applied yesterday)

And really, there's no excuse for technology not being in place for this. We can have a replay on TV within 15 seconds showing the lines and the player being clearly off/onside but we can't take the 30 seconds to get it right on the field?

Young Drachma · 04-19-2017, 12:06 PM

Shout out to Leicester City for giving it a shot.

miked · 04-19-2017, 12:49 PM

As was said above, I'm not a Bayern fan, but I'm a soccer fan and I like to see great matches. That match was great and Bayern had the momentum until the series of bad calls. And they were not just borderline calls, they were really really bad. Vidal was nowhere near the Madrid player. I mean, I forget whether it was Casameiro or Asensio who flopped terribly in the box and got nothing, while Robben took a little dive in the meaningless corner and was carded (Robben is of course a serial flopper). Not to mention the tackle that should have sent Casameiro off.

And as for the goal...

Leo Messi on Twitter: "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA RONALDO CLEAR OFFSIDE BUT UEFALONA https://t.co/78aiayu1Qd"

It was not bang bang, Ronaldo spent seconds in an offside position on the eventual winner. It was of course meaningless since Bayern were playing with 10. The refs took a close, exciting game and destroyed it.

ISiddiqui · 04-19-2017, 01:04 PM

Quite an advertisement for VAR...

HomerSimpson98 · 04-19-2017, 01:20 PM

Thanks for the responses Mike. I too was genuinely enjoying that game (flipping over to Leicester as well - wholly shit what energy was spent by the those guys). And I really hate to see the outcome decided by a red card. I must've missed the Casameiro stuff as it didnt stand out to me (not saying it didnt happen at all).

My only retort is that Vidal is basically playing college basketball with 4 fouls. And his challenge was at midfield IIRC and no threat. He didnt need to do what he did, with what was on the line. Its like a point guard committing a reach-in foul 80 feet from the bucket with 6 minutes left in the game. And the ref HAD to have told him on the earlier challenge that he'll get no more quarter. ANd he didnt.

As for the replays, yeah, I understand your point. On the other hand, this is what is making soccer more appealing to me. The constant non-stop play. Not refs going to replays and killing all of the game's flow/momentum every few minutes. Its a sticky topic.

ISiddiqui · 04-19-2017, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerSimpson98

As for the replays, yeah, I understand your point. On the other hand, this is what is making soccer more appealing to me. The constant non-stop play. Not refs going to replays and killing all of the game's flow/momentum every few minutes. Its a sticky topic.

VAR seems to be very quick in testing and only for particular instances for where there would likely be a stoppage of play anyways (red cards, whether a goal was offside, etc).

MIJB#19 · 04-20-2017, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by miked

As was said above, I'm not a Bayern fan, but I'm a soccer fan and I like to see great matches. That match was great and Bayern had the momentum until the series of bad calls. And they were not just borderline calls, they were really really bad. Vidal was nowhere near the Madrid player. I mean, I forget whether it was Casameiro or Asensio who flopped terribly in the box and got nothing, while Robben took a little dive in the meaningless corner and was carded (Robben is of course a serial flopper). Not to mention the tackle that should have sent Casameiro off.

And as for the goal...

Leo Messi on Twitter: "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA RONALDO CLEAR OFFSIDE BUT UEFALONA https://t.co/78aiayu1Qd"

It was not bang bang, Ronaldo spent seconds in an offside position on the eventual winner. It was of course meaningless since Bayern were playing with 10. The refs took a close, exciting game and destroyed it.

Vidal should have been sent off earlier on in the game, he had it coming, provoking the referee to give him a second yellow card. And Casemiro should have joined him on the sideline. This all to set up for the 10 vs 10 overtime this game deserved to become, preferably one where the assistant referee actually didn't fatigue and fail to flag Real Madrid 'goals' offside.

Oh well, it was an entertaining game regardless for about 105 minutes.

MIJB#19 · 04-20-2017, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerSimpson98

As for the replays, yeah, I understand your point. On the other hand, this is what is making soccer more appealing to me. The constant non-stop play. Not refs going to replays and killing all of the game's flow/momentum every few minutes. Its a sticky topic.

Take a look at the KNVB Beker (Dutch equivalent of the FA Cup) and you'll see soccer can work with video referees.

EagleFan · 04-20-2017, 04:35 PM

Amazing extra time win by Ajax; down to 10 men and down a goal in the final 15.

miami_fan · 04-21-2017, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

Dortmund vs Monaco postponed due to multiple explosions near the Dortmund bus resulting in an injury to Marc Bartra sending him to the hospital.

Islamic terrorists? Nope

Crazed Monaco fans? Nope

Investor looking for increased profits? Yes?

German officials: Borussia Dortmund bomb attack suspect acted out of greed - ESPN FC

ISiddiqui · 04-21-2017, 09:48 AM

Wow... that's all sorts of fucked up.

ISiddiqui · 04-22-2017, 04:25 PM

That Matic goal in the FA Cup Semis was ridiculous. Just about impossible to stop.

AlexB · 04-22-2017, 04:47 PM

No 'just about' it, the sweetest of strikes.

whomario · 04-23-2017, 01:52 AM

Pulisic with another nice game, Dortmund back in 3rd place after the horror that was the last 10 days.

sovereignstar v2 · 04-23-2017, 09:48 AM

Video replay plz k thx

Young Drachma · 04-23-2017, 09:55 AM

Hoffenheim qualifies for Europe at least, but would much prefer Champions League, so hope the stretch treats them well.

Critch · 04-23-2017, 03:43 PM

Real Madrid v Barcelona lived up to the hype this afternoon. What a game.

sovereignstar v2 · 04-23-2017, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Critch

Real Madrid v Barcelona lived up to the hype this afternoon. What a game.

This.

03-28-2017, 12:28 PM	#651
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Oof. Scored his first national team goal in his hometown area, then a few minutes later gets injured on a bad tackle. Looks like he is now out 4-6 months. Sebastian Lleget out 4-6 months after foot surgery - Goal.com __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint Last edited by cartman : 03-28-2017 at 12:29 PM.

03-29-2017, 07:51 AM	#654
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	For missing half our starting lineup (not an exaggeration) including 3/4 of our starting back line, I am definitely glad at the point at Panama (then again away points in CONCACAF are always welcome, considering the 'quality' of the pitches and refs). Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

04-05-2017, 10:58 PM	#658
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Dog invades pitch and eludes capture in seven minute spree - ITV News Ah, lower league footy (7th division england), Northern Premier League team Halesowen Town had a four legged invader spend seven minutes playing with all the humans who were kicking a ball around. It turns out that the dog belonged to one of the players, who finally was able to snap a leash on the dog, and he was led off the field. Actually, watching his moves, he might be the answer at right wing for Gareth Southgate... No word on if the player... (puts on sunglasses).. ended up in the manager's doghouse. A Pawse in play at the Grove: Un-Cut version - YouTube __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com Last edited by SirFozzie : 04-05-2017 at 10:59 PM.

04-06-2017, 01:06 AM	#659
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	If only they had been playing Barking & Dagenham... __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports!

04-08-2017, 11:09 AM	#661
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Not a bad goal in the lot for Spurs: Tottenham 4-0 Watford: Spurs close in on Chelsea - ESPN FC __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

03-28-2017, 02:21 PM	#652
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	That's pretty brutal

03-28-2017, 09:48 PM	#653
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Pulisic sure is something.

03-29-2017, 01:03 PM	#656
Bisbo H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Mar 2006	Glad to get the point, I guess, but I thought we were back to the same disorganized mess that plagued the Klinsmann regime - lots of wild, long passes that went nowhere, little coordinated movement on offense.

04-06-2017, 10:27 AM	#660
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Hoffenheim beats Bayern for the first time, but my Swans fall back into the relegation zone. Toluca leads the LigaMX Clausura table at the moment, at least and I suspect Depor and Sassuolo can manage to stay out of the relegation zone, though it'd be funny in a macabre way to root for multiple teams that fail to stay up.

04-08-2017, 01:37 PM	#662
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	Brighton and Hove Albion are coming up, there, I've said it. I've assumed they'd throw it away, slip out of the top two and then lose in the playoffs, but after this weekend it's going to happen. Brighton won at QPR yesterday(rode their luck a little to hold on at the end), then challengers Huddersfield and Newcastle Utd both lost today. Brighton now 12 points clear of third place with 5 games to go (Huddersfield in third have 6 games left but the pressure has got to them) and all but set to take a place in the top division for the first time in 31 years. Will make a nice change watching on proper tv instead of relying on BeinSports to maybe show the game, or paying for Brighton's webcast. Hope I'm not tempting fate.....

04-08-2017, 01:47 PM	#663
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Swansea looking not great, Hoffenheim likely to fall to 4th in the Bundesliga. Sassulo and Depor should stay up, but are towards bottom of their tables and Toluca still leads Liga MX. __________________ FBCB / FPB3 Mods

04-10-2017, 08:26 PM	#664
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	So does missing the Champions League finally get Wegner canned? Doubt it. This team needs fresh blood badly. Just look at Leicester to see what happened when new life is injected. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal Last edited by kingfc22 : 04-10-2017 at 08:26 PM.

04-11-2017, 01:01 AM	#666
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I have a friend who is generally decently well connected with sports rumors back home who says the same thing FWIW. I can't see it but he's convinced they are giving him an extension

04-11-2017, 05:36 AM	#667
law90026 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	Wenger isn't leaving. He's got too big an ego to accept its his fault.

04-11-2017, 01:33 PM	#668
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	Dortmund vs Monaco postponed due to multiple explosions near the Dortmund bus resulting in an injury to Marc Bartra sending him to the hospital.

04-14-2017, 09:23 AM	#669
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	The Coventry/Charlton game was interrupted due to a flying pig invasion. No, this is not a drug fueled dream, it looks like fans brought a ton of pig toys to the match, and threw them on the pitch. BBC Sport on Twitter: "Another pig-ch invasion. Coventry's match v Charlton has been delayed after just 30 seconds. More details https://t.co/7qUbnRnJxW https://t.co/QH5cj8nGhC" __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

04-15-2017, 01:20 PM	#670
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Atletico benefited from 2 penalties within 2 minutes. The Osasuna keep saved them both. Of course, he's already down 3-0, but still deserves MotM.

04-16-2017, 04:18 PM	#672
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	WTF Bastia-Lyon match abandoned after fans attack players on pitch - ESPN FC __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

04-17-2017, 02:30 PM	#674
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	It's officially official now, Huddersfield failed to win at Derby so Brighton have clinched an EPL place. Well deserved after a couple of playoff disappointments over the last few years. Now they just need to clinch the championship, 7 points clear of Newcastle with three games to go. Last edited by Critch : 04-17-2017 at 02:31 PM.

04-17-2017, 02:33 PM	#675
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	it is official. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

04-18-2017, 08:26 PM	#676
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	So Bayern was a bit screwed today... __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)

04-18-2017, 08:51 PM	#677
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010

04-19-2017, 09:13 AM	#680
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	I would say Vidal was wrongly sent off (although he could have got a weak yellow card earlier), Casemiro should have been sent off (he had 2 or 3 incidents where he could have/should have received a second yellow), the Ronaldo goal that put them ahead was a yard or two offside, the Ronaldo goal to go to 3-2 was at least borderline offside. Saying that, I watched the Nationals/Braves game last night so the ref's performance wasnt even the worst of the day.

04-19-2017, 10:16 AM	#681
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	^^^ As was said above, Robben got a yellow for a flop in the corner that was meaningless, Casemiro had at least 2 flops and what should have been a yellow. Vidal may walk a fine line, but the foul that got him a yellow was absurd, he made no contact with the diver, and got the ball cleanly. Oh, and Ronaldo was way offside on the go ahead goal. It was absurd officiating in the 2nd half and extra time that absolutely changed the entire outcome of the game. __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)

04-19-2017, 11:06 AM	#682
HomerSimpson98 High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Cowtown, TX	Hey Mike, I agree in seeing the replay a few times that Vidal's tackle was clean. My point is that when it happened live, I thought it was an easy yellow. He has to be smarter than that (already on a yellow). I thought the ref did a fantastic job earlier in the 2nd when he could (and should) have probably got his 2nd yellow. You can imagine that Vidal was told "one more and you're done". And then he goes in with the high leg - it just looked bad. Regarding the offsides, I dont see how any linesmen can get that right 100% of the time. With how fast these guys move and knowing the exact time the ball was kicked - almost impossible to naked eye. The truth is that once Vidal was sent off, the outcome was inevitable. Bayern played with tons of heart (they always do), but RM has too much firepower to not punish a team of 10.

04-19-2017, 12:01 PM	#683
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	That's literally the only thing they are looking for, it shouldn't be that hard. I've worked the line at a semi-decent level back in the day, not that it was champions league speed but still. I understand how refs miss things with so much going on but I have a very hard time excusing linesmen missing offside calls in most situations (assuming they can be in position and there's nothing blocking them, neither of which applied yesterday) And really, there's no excuse for technology not being in place for this. We can have a replay on TV within 15 seconds showing the lines and the player being clearly off/onside but we can't take the 30 seconds to get it right on the field?

04-19-2017, 12:06 PM	#684
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Shout out to Leicester City for giving it a shot. __________________ FBCB / FPB3 Mods

04-19-2017, 12:49 PM	#685
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	As was said above, I'm not a Bayern fan, but I'm a soccer fan and I like to see great matches. That match was great and Bayern had the momentum until the series of bad calls. And they were not just borderline calls, they were really really bad. Vidal was nowhere near the Madrid player. I mean, I forget whether it was Casameiro or Asensio who flopped terribly in the box and got nothing, while Robben took a little dive in the meaningless corner and was carded (Robben is of course a serial flopper). Not to mention the tackle that should have sent Casameiro off. And as for the goal... Leo Messi on Twitter: "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA RONALDO CLEAR OFFSIDE BUT UEFALONA https://t.co/78aiayu1Qd" It was not bang bang, Ronaldo spent seconds in an offside position on the eventual winner. It was of course meaningless since Bayern were playing with 10. The refs took a close, exciting game and destroyed it. __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)

04-19-2017, 01:04 PM	#686
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Quite an advertisement for VAR... __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

04-19-2017, 01:20 PM	#687
HomerSimpson98 High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Cowtown, TX	Thanks for the responses Mike. I too was genuinely enjoying that game (flipping over to Leicester as well - wholly shit what energy was spent by the those guys). And I really hate to see the outcome decided by a red card. I must've missed the Casameiro stuff as it didnt stand out to me (not saying it didnt happen at all). My only retort is that Vidal is basically playing college basketball with 4 fouls. And his challenge was at midfield IIRC and no threat. He didnt need to do what he did, with what was on the line. Its like a point guard committing a reach-in foul 80 feet from the bucket with 6 minutes left in the game. And the ref HAD to have told him on the earlier challenge that he'll get no more quarter. ANd he didnt. As for the replays, yeah, I understand your point. On the other hand, this is what is making soccer more appealing to me. The constant non-stop play. Not refs going to replays and killing all of the game's flow/momentum every few minutes. Its a sticky topic.

04-20-2017, 04:35 PM	#691
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Amazing extra time win by Ajax; down to 10 men and down a goal in the final 15. __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important Last edited by EagleFan : 04-21-2017 at 03:45 PM.

04-21-2017, 09:48 AM	#693
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Wow... that's all sorts of fucked up. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

04-22-2017, 04:25 PM	#694
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	That Matic goal in the FA Cup Semis was ridiculous. Just about impossible to stop. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

04-22-2017, 04:47 PM	#695
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	No 'just about' it, the sweetest of strikes. __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports!

04-23-2017, 01:52 AM	#696
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	Pulisic with another nice game, Dortmund back in 3rd place after the horror that was the last 10 days. __________________ “The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!”