Chris Benoit found dead.... - Page 14

Karlifornia · 07-03-2007, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I think all the estimates are probably in line. I'd think since he was working about 150-200 nights a year, that he'd be making between 1000-1500 per show, and probably 3-4 times that amount per PPV. So something like 500k sounds right within a couple hundred thousand either way sounds plausible anyways.

Although with WCW out of the buisiness, I wonder if salaries have gradually moved downward.

Would WWE's profits have gone up since the demise of WCW, therefore resulting in a salary increase? Or no?

Flasch186 · 07-03-2007, 10:05 AM

I heard nothing about the "Vince is Dead" angle last night. Is that storyline officially over?

albionmoonlight · 07-03-2007, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

I heard nothing about the "Vince is Dead" angle last night. Is that storyline officially over?

I don't have a cite, but I remember hearing that WWE decided to drop the storyline as soon as they heard that Benoit was dead.

clintl · 07-03-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

I heard nothing about the "Vince is Dead" angle last night. Is that storyline officially over?

It couldn't possibly be continued after Vince made an appearance, could it? Unless they made it into a "Vince has turned into a zombie" storyline?

JonInMiddleGA · 07-03-2007, 02:27 PM

here's a trainwreck TV alert I just ran across

http://pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=25293&p=1
After technical difficulties prevented him from appearing last night, former WWF champion Warrior will discuss the Benoit tragedy tonight on Fox News at 9 PM Eastern on Hannity & Colmes.

General Mike · 07-03-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

here's a trainwreck TV alert I just ran across

http://pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=25293&p=1
After technical difficulties prevented him from appearing last night, former WWF champion Warrior will discuss the Benoit tragedy tonight on Fox News at 9 PM Eastern on Hannity & Colmes.

Must See TV

Swaggs · 07-03-2007, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

here's a trainwreck TV alert I just ran across

http://pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=25293&p=1
After technical difficulties prevented him from appearing last night, former WWF champion Warrior will discuss the Benoit tragedy tonight on Fox News at 9 PM Eastern on Hannity & Colmes.

Damn... I guess I missed this.

Anyone catch it?

tucker rocky · 07-03-2007, 11:49 PM

Looks like Warrior was getting a bit hostile.

Maple Leafs · 07-04-2007, 05:00 PM

So, not that it really matters in the big scheme, but anyone heard any speculation as to who the "M.J" and "O.G." referenced in the Astin indictment could be?

Rich1033 · 07-04-2007, 05:09 PM

stevew · 07-04-2007, 05:34 PM

It's sad when Warrior actually makes somewhat sense.

Travis · 07-04-2007, 05:43 PM

I think I would have really preferred to have seen that interview transpire with all 3 being in the same room. Though I somehow doubt they would have been cutting him off nearly so often if that were the case.

Bonus points if Warrior had paid off the crew to lower a cage halfway through and cue his old theme music.

Crim · 07-04-2007, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HiFiRevival

It's amazing that the delusional rabbit trails, the roid rage like hostility and the use of random words he read in the dictionary last week still wasn't enough to derail WARRIOR from making some pretty solid points.

He had me at "parsing".

Swaggs · 07-04-2007, 11:24 PM

Granted I don't regularly watch the Hannity and Colmes Show or know much about the Warrior, but it really seemed like both of the hosts were not paying attention to what he said and trying to force an argument trying to make it seem like he was defending something he was not even talking about. I especially liked when Colmes was trying to "clarify" what Hannity was saying, but said something completely unrelated.

I thought the hosts came off looking like they were disinterested and not paying attention and Warrior, although I don't really agree with him, made pretty good sense.

molson · 07-05-2007, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

So, not that it really matters in the big scheme, but anyone heard any speculation as to who the "M.J" and "O.G." referenced in the Astin indictment could be?

Most are assuming "O.G" is Oscar Gutierrez (Rey Mysterio), especially considering he was already mentioned as a part of the CNNSI.com steroid story last year. (And he's also one of the more obvious steroid users in WWE).

JonInMiddleGA · 07-05-2007, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

Most are assuming "O.G" is Oscar Gutierrez (Rey Mysterio), especially considering he was already mentioned as a part of the CNNSI.com steroid story last year. (And he's also one of the more obvious steroid users in WWE).

The only MJ that I could think of (other than the long gone Mike Jones/Virgil/ Vincent) was Mark Jindrak, but he's been gone from there for a good bit too. I mean, Marty Jannetty & Mickie James are both possibilities I suppose but I'm guessing it's probably not them.

But was there anything that indicated the two initialed customers/patients were wrestlers?
edit to add: Well, I guess I found an answer of sorts to my own question. Apparently WAGA-TV in Atlanta is reporting that investigators are exploring the doctor's connection to a number of other wrestlers, trying to match the ring names of wrestler's whose photographs were on Astin's wall to the real names in his patient files.

Groundhog · 07-05-2007, 12:34 AM

Wow, did Warrior just say "artifice"?

He's actually pretty well spoken, even if he has to pause to gather his thoughts for about 20 seconds before speaking.

dime · 07-05-2007, 12:39 AM

wow.

"...I don't have a stupid button on me that I can push to get stupid."

Groundhog · 07-05-2007, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Granted I don't regularly watch the Hannity and Colmes Show or know much about the Warrior, but it really seemed like both of the hosts were not paying attention to what he said and trying to force an argument trying to make it seem like he was defending something he was not even talking about. I especially liked when Colmes was trying to "clarify" what Hannity was saying, but said something completely unrelated.

I thought the hosts came off looking like they were disinterested and not paying attention and Warrior, although I don't really agree with him, made pretty good sense.

Yeah, the worst thing about the interviews was that Warrior and the hosts were both talking about the same things, but each going about it on a very different route. A decent host would have been able to notice that and adjust accordingly, but Hannity, or whoever the loudest and most obnoxious one was, was more interested in just talking over the top of Warrior, cutting him off, and making little wise cracks, while reminding me once again that Fox only hires unlikeable fuckwits as hosts.

markprior22 · 07-05-2007, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

Yeah, the worst thing about the interviews was that Warrior and the hosts were both talking about the same things, but each going about it on a very different route. A decent host would have been able to notice that and adjust accordingly, but Hannity, or whoever the loudest and most obnoxious one was, was more interested in just talking over the top of Warrior, cutting him off, and making little wise cracks, while reminding me once again that Fox only hires unlikeable fuckwits as hosts.

Personally, I like the FOX personalities. I'm sure there are as many examples of CNN, MSNBC or whatever personalities not acting just the way I'd like them to.

Groundhog · 07-05-2007, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by markprior22

Personally, I like the FOX personalities. I'm sure there are as many examples of CNN, MSNBC or whatever personalities not acting just the way I'd like them to.

Well, I don't get those 2 channels over here. Maybe it's just as well.

dervack · 07-05-2007, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

Wow, did Warrior just say "artifice"?

He's actually pretty well spoken, even if he has to pause to gather his thoughts for about 20 seconds before speaking.

I think that was the satellite hook up between them.

Schmidty · 07-05-2007, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Granted I don't regularly watch the Hannity and Colmes Show or know much about the Warrior, but it really seemed like both of the hosts were not paying attention to what he said and trying to force an argument trying to make it seem like he was defending something he was not even talking about. I especially liked when Colmes was trying to "clarify" what Hannity was saying, but said something completely unrelated.

I thought the hosts came off looking like they were disinterested and not paying attention and Warrior, although I don't really agree with him, made pretty good sense.

I don't understand the Hannity thing. I've never watched the show, so please enlighten me.

Schmidty · 07-05-2007, 03:23 AM

By the way, I just watched the interview, and the non-alien looking one was a giant cock. Which one is that?

Honolulu_Blue · 07-05-2007, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

By the way, I just watched the interview, and the non-alien looking one was a giant cock. Which one is that?

I think that's Hannity.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-05-2007, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by HiFiRevival

Hannity is semi-annointed by Fox as the next big conservative talking head ...

While he is considered the heir-apparent to Rush Limbaugh, I don't really think that's a Fox annointment. You're underestimating the influence of his radio show and overestimating the impact of his TV. It's a nice add-on to his overall package but his radio success is still what made/makes him.

Hell, I'm not at all sure that he hasn't already ascending to the radio throne as the number one guy in talk, not with the sort of strength Rush had in his heyday but then again, Rush doesn't have that sort of strength anymore either.

Maple Leafs · 07-05-2007, 11:08 AM

That Warrior interview was just bizarre. He's clearly batshit insane, but he was making some good points. But the interviewers would just jump in and cut him off within a few seconds so they could get their next question in. Is that how all interviews play out on this show?

JonInMiddleGA · 07-05-2007, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Is that how all interviews play out on this show?

Pretty much.

I believe it's pretty rare that anybody watches to see the guests on any of the talking head shows (Larry King is probably an exception to that), the hosts just need foils/props to do their thing and that's the purpose of the guests.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-05-2007, 12:16 PM

Oh, I almost forgot.

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

He's clearly batshit insane

QFT

Groundhog · 07-05-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HiFiRevival

Hannity is semi-annointed by Fox as the next big conservative talking head with Colmes as a pathetic, meandering liberal there only for Hannity to pick on. It's a typical display of Fox's "fair and balanced" approach to news.

I must have missed the 18 references they subtlely slipped in to the interview regarding their political leanings.

vex · 07-05-2007, 07:19 PM

That is the worst interview I have possibly ever seen.

Maple Leafs · 07-05-2007, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

So, not that it really matters in the big scheme, but anyone heard any speculation as to who the "M.J" and "O.G." referenced in the Astin indictment could be?

So apparently "M.J." is Mark Jindrak, and "O.G." is Oscar Gutierrez, aka Rey Mysterio.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-05-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

So apparently "M.J." is Mark Jindrak, and "O.G." is Oscar Gutierrez, aka Rey Mysterio.

But didn't TMZ pull that story within an hour or two of originally posting it?
I just kinda figured they were trolling FOFC for ideas last night

Maple Leafs · 07-05-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

But didn't TMZ pull that story within an hour or two of originally posting it?

Apparently. Although before they did, all the wrestling sites go to say "Yep, that's what we heard too, but we didn't want to mention it yet".

Neon_Chaos · 07-05-2007, 09:01 PM

Marc Mero is making the rounds on the talkshows. Ugh.

JOHNNY B. BADD!

JonInMiddleGA · 07-05-2007, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Marc Mero is making the rounds on the talkshows. Ugh.

I had the misfortune of seeing part of that while I was out having dinner.
Poor guy screwed with his eyebrows for his character for so long that they now look like that permanently. He looked like a transvestite who hadn't finished doing his makeup yet.

PilotMan · 07-05-2007, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I had the misfortune of seeing part of that while I was out having dinner.
Poor guy screwed with his eyebrows for his character for so long that they now look like that permanently. He looked like a transvestite who hadn't finished doing his makeup yet.

Holy shit! That was exactly what I was thinking. He looks like he should be someone's bitch.

BYU 14 · 07-05-2007, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I had the misfortune of seeing part of that while I was out having dinner.
Poor guy screwed with his eyebrows for his character for so long that they now look like that permanently. He looked like a transvestite who hadn't finished doing his makeup yet.

Holy Crap......I'd rather have a forehead full of gig marks than those Eyebrows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYNUJ...elated&search=

Atocep · 07-05-2007, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I had the misfortune of seeing part of that while I was out having dinner.
Poor guy screwed with his eyebrows for his character for so long that they now look like that permanently. He looked like a transvestite who hadn't finished doing his makeup yet.

I couldn't even watch that. He freaked me out.

Looks like he's had a really bad face lift and maybe a nosejob and some other "work" done.

Toddzilla · 07-05-2007, 11:09 PM

"I'm so pretty I should have been a girl" - Johnny B. Badd

ThunderingHERD · 07-05-2007, 11:13 PM

I haven't followed wrestling since I was about 8 years old (is Warrior the same guy that used to be the Ultimate Warrior?), but good him that guy for showing appropriate indignation at Hannity's utter B.S.

(P.S., if you want to see Hannity really get chewed up do a google search for either of Christopher Hitchens two recent appearances)

WVUFAN · 07-05-2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderingHERD

I haven't followed wrestling since I was about 8 years old (is Warrior the same guy that used to be the Ultimate Warrior?), but good him that guy for showing appropriate indignation at Hannity's utter B.S.

(P.S., if you want to see Hannity really get chewed up do a google search for either of Christopher Hitchens two recent appearances)

Before you go praising Warrior for his anti-Hannity thing, you might want to learn a little more about the guy. He makes O'Reilly look like a centrist.

He's too conservative for even me.

http://www.ultimatewarrior.com/blog/

Karlifornia · 07-05-2007, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderingHERD

(P.S., if you want to see Hannity really get chewed up do a google search for either of Christopher Hitchens two recent appearances)

This I gotta see. I'm going to take another shot of booze, get my cigs and snacks all ready, and get ready for the show.

Neon_Chaos · 07-05-2007, 11:25 PM

"Queering don't make the world work!" - Warrior Warrior

(or something to that effect) Classic line.

Karlifornia · 07-05-2007, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

This I gotta see. I'm going to take another shot of booze, get my cigs and snacks all ready, and get ready for the show.

This Hannity/Hitchens stuff is fucking AMAZING. I will now be buying every Hitchens work. He's like a smarter, more focused version of myself.

EDIT: Screw the Hannity one...he's Hannity.....watching all the Hitchens vids on youtube is must-see. This guy is so well-read and intelligent (and I do realize that he can come off that extremely pompous), that I actually feel inspired by this sumbitch.

Groundhog · 07-06-2007, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

This Hannity/Hitchens stuff is fucking AMAZING. I will now be buying every Hitchens work. He's like a smarter, more focused version of myself.

Watching this Hannity-Hitchens debate is like watching a 25 year old weightlifter beat up on a 4 year old. In particular when it became obvious that, no, Hannity had not read any of the arguments against his belief. If you are going to interview someone it might be a good idea to do some research, though that'd be expecting too much from shock interview jerks like Hannity.

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EDIT: Screw the Hannity one...he's Hannity.....watching all the Hitchens vids on youtube is must-see. This guy is so well-read and intelligent (and I do realize that he can come off that extremely pompous), that I actually feel inspired by this sumbitch.

I've read a few things from Hitchens and seen him on TV numerous times, and yeah, Hitchens comes off as pompous sometimes, but I love the way he dismisses folks when they start throwing irrational or illogical arguments his way. He was interviewed on Aussie tv after his latest book was released and the show brought on a creationist, and I swear it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen. The creationist looked like he was about to burst in to tears by the end of it, because Hitchens had made him look like an utter fool.

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JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	here's a trainwreck TV alert I just ran across http://pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=25293&p=1 After technical difficulties prevented him from appearing last night, former WWF champion Warrior will discuss the Benoit tragedy tonight on Fox News at 9 PM Eastern on Hannity & Colmes. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

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Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	So, not that it really matters in the big scheme, but anyone heard any speculation as to who the "M.J" and "O.G." referenced in the Astin indictment could be? __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

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Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	I think I would have really preferred to have seen that interview transpire with all 3 being in the same room. Though I somehow doubt they would have been cutting him off nearly so often if that were the case. Bonus points if Warrior had paid off the crew to lower a cage halfway through and cue his old theme music. __________________ "I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." - Rogers Hornsby

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Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Granted I don't regularly watch the Hannity and Colmes Show or know much about the Warrior, but it really seemed like both of the hosts were not paying attention to what he said and trying to force an argument trying to make it seem like he was defending something he was not even talking about. I especially liked when Colmes was trying to "clarify" what Hannity was saying, but said something completely unrelated. I thought the hosts came off looking like they were disinterested and not paying attention and Warrior, although I don't really agree with him, made pretty good sense. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers? Last edited by Swaggs : 07-04-2007 at 11:24 PM.

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tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Looks like Warrior was getting a bit hostile.

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stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	It's sad when Warrior actually makes somewhat sense.

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Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Wow, did Warrior just say "artifice"? He's actually pretty well spoken, even if he has to pause to gather his thoughts for about 20 seconds before speaking. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

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Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	By the way, I just watched the interview, and the non-alien looking one was a giant cock. Which one is that?

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Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	That Warrior interview was just bizarre. He's clearly batshit insane, but he was making some good points. But the interviewers would just jump in and cut him off within a few seconds so they could get their next question in. Is that how all interviews play out on this show? __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

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vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	That is the worst interview I have possibly ever seen.

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ThunderingHERD College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I haven't followed wrestling since I was about 8 years old (is Warrior the same guy that used to be the Ultimate Warrior?), but good him that guy for showing appropriate indignation at Hannity's utter B.S. (P.S., if you want to see Hannity really get chewed up do a google search for either of Christopher Hitchens two recent appearances) __________________ "I'm losing my edge--to better looking people... with better ideas... and more talent. And who are actually really, really nice." "Everyone's a voyeurist--they're watching me watch them watch me right now."

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