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#651 |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Speaking of Dany Heatley, he got tossed around right before the fight started (I see where the term "ragdoll physics" comes from now), yet he didn't get a penalty. That means that he allowed himself to get flung like a shot put, yet he didn't even fight to defend himself or his goalie. Hell, I have more respect for Spezza and his turtling. At least he took his punches. Heatley was probably squealing like a pig as he ran for his life.
Wow, I loved that brawl. Great stuff.
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#652 | |
Bounty Hunter
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Edit: Seriously, that was worthy of an "OH SNAP!" I'm rolling over here.
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Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: NYC
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I had to do the "start fake-coughing loudly to cover up the clear sounds of laughing way too hard to be doing anything work-related." P.S. I've been e-mailing back and forth with a friend about the fight, and I already passed that joke off as my own. Thanks. Last edited by Logan : 02-23-2007 at 11:07 AM. |
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#654 |
Pro Rookie
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Los Angeles
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scoring line or not, thats downright embrassing for ottawa. if im a senator, i have a tough time looking at anyone who was on the ice watching their goalie fight a non goalie.
this goes a long way, for me, towards explaining why ottawa has been so talented lately and havent won a thing. they just dont have the heart or grit. and size is no excuse. gionta is the smallest guy in the league, and he routinely goes after chara. fun for the fans though! ![]() |
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#655 |
Pro Rookie
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Location: USA
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#656 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Buffalo, NY
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I'm rather surprised at the lack of anger at neal, the guy is a known thug who has about as much hockey talent as, well me....and he takes out the opponents str player with an obviously late and unnecessary hit?
I'm really hoping he gets suspended finally. The guy is nothing more than a headhunter on the ice and has been for the last few seasons. |
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#657 | |
Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: NYC
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While it was dirty for being late, it hurts the argument when everyone on the Buffalo bench was claiming it was an elbow by showing their elbows, then pointing out the cut on the head when the only reason for the cut was because Drury's helmet flew off and he hit his head on the ice. |
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#658 | |
Pro Rookie
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Los Angeles
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i dont think he has, no. but im 100% sure if chara did, gionta wouldnt run away. regardless, dumb on ott's coaches part, and even dumber on the players on the ice's part. at least pretend to try to get involved. |
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Hockey Boy
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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I don't know about that. Chris Neil is much less a thug than say, Andrew Peters. Chris Neil has 10 goals this year and scored 16 last year. Sure, he's known more for his fists than his hands, but I wouldn't consider him just a no-talent thug.
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#660 |
Pro Rookie
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Los Angeles
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meanwhile...
Anson Carter to Carolina for a fifth-round pick in the 2008 draft. |
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Hockey Boy
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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A fifth-round pick? That's all? Well, he salary is a bit garish for what he brings to the table.
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Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2002
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Clean hit, by the way,
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Pro Rookie
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Los Angeles
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also, New Jersey's trade of Alexander Korolyuk to San Jose has been voided after the winger decided to stay in Russia rather than join the Sharks and resume his NHL career.
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High School Varsity
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Ashville, OH
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Here's how bad he's played for us this year: he was demoted to play with Jody Shelley. Enough said. Good riddance, and it makes me realize how good the Sedin twins actually are. |
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Hockey Boy
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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That's not good. Anson Carter is odd. He had a great season last year thnaks to playing with the Sedins, but, even despite his woes this year, he has averaged about 25 goals a season in his career, but yet he's been traded seven ties. You figure a winger who can score 25 goals a year would eventually stick somewhere, but that's clearly not been the case for this guy. He's always been a bit of an enigma to me.
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#666 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2002
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I just saw the clip again, and it was pointed out that not only does Heatley run away, but at the end of it he's skating around by himself and still has his gloves and stick.
I mean... at that point, don't you drop your gloves just for appearances? Are you worried that they're going to start play again and you may need to receive an outlet pass?
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College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Edmonton
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His work ethic drives coaches nuts. The problem with his 25 goals/year is they are usually a very quiet 25 goals. He rarely shows up when you need him to. |
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College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Edmonton
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Maybe he's still on probation? |
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Bounty Hunter
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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#670 |
Pro Rookie
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Just saw the Carter deal. Even if he doesn't add up to a lot, a fifth round pick is all that was lost in the deal, so I'm not real worried about it. If he helps, hey, it's better than nothing. Cole's out for a while with a bad hip, so that's probably what prompted the trade.
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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It was still late, regardless. When you go after an opposing team's top player and captain with a hit like that, your just asking for it. Ruff, after the game, changed his comments to reflect that wasn't an elbow. However, he still called it a dirty late. |
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#672 | |
Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2002
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Was it dirty? No. Do the Sabres still need to take care of some business? Yes, of course they do.
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#673 | |
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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How is a hit "clean" if it's late? I don't understand the argument how it was clean, but late. Wouldn't a late hit be consider dirty? Last edited by Galaxy : 02-23-2007 at 03:05 PM. |
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#674 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2002
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I didn't think it was late. And if it was, it was a fraction of a second late.... "technically in violation of the rules" isn't the same as "dirty" or "cheap".
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#675 |
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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You didn't think it was late? Chris had that puck gone for at least a few seconds.
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#676 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2002
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Count from the time he shoots the puck to impact. You'll get to about "one missi-" before the hit. That's not late. Guys don't become untouchable as soon as the puck leaves their stick.
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#677 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2002
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Random thought: why didn't Emery get the automatic match penalty for fighting with tape on his hand?
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
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Maple Leafs pretty much covered my answer, there's a lot of intent involved in the distinction. Same as getting to a QB a split second late & getting 15 yards for roughing the passer isn't considered "dirty", but knocking him ass over teakettle 7 seconds after the play is over often would be.
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Hockey Boy
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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The refs probably just missed it. One of those situations where so much was going on at the time that it was completely over-looked. I wonder if the league can go back and assess such a penalty after reviewing the tape.
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#680 |
Bounty Hunter
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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More fun with Dany Heatley: Before that faceoff, he shoved Patrick Kaleta. Now, normally, I'd think that it was retaliatory, but Kaleta was playing in his first NHL game ever. What are the chances that he's going to start talking serious shit to Heatley before the faceoff? So Heatley shoves Kaleta, waits for the faceoff, and then runs off looking for mommy. Comedy through the fucking roof.
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#681 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2002
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How funny would it be if after all that, the only suspendable offense was having tape on your hand?
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#682 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Keene, NH
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Ray Emery is awesome!
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Pro Rookie
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Location: USA
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College Benchwarmer
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#685 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2002
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You're kidding, right?
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College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: St. Catharines, Canada
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The rematch is tonight!
No suspensions levied after Thursday night's game, although Lindy Ruff was fined $10,000 for his actions (likely tied to the instigator penalties). Ottawa is dressing their enforcer for tonight's game and while overhyped games like this end up being just that, I do expect to see McGratton and Peters face off pretty early in the contest. I think the game will really be physical but I doubt we'll see Ottawa take liberties with Buffalo's stars...at least the ones still healthy (Briere, Vanek, Miller). Seven of Buffalo's 18 skaters tonight (eight if you include Peters ![]()
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#688 |
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Location: USA
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I bet the game will be boring. I *might* TiVo it just in case.
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Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2002
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Rob Ray had some interesting comments in the paper today about the Sens not doing anything when Peters went after Emery. He told a story about dropping the gloves with Patrick Roy once and having half the Canadiens roster on top of him within a few seconds.
As someone who doesn't really care about either team, I hope the Sabres being down so many players means an Ottawa blowout. You know, so we can get to the fun stuff.
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Location: USA
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Hard to defend a "soft" label after that incident, for sure. |
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Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2002
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Unless you get a chance to make it right two nights later...
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Pro Rookie
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Location: USA
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Nothing will happen. League brass will be in attendance. The game will be called tight and it will be really boring. At least that's my take on it. I'd like to be surprised, but it usually goes the boring route. Last edited by Tekneek : 02-24-2007 at 12:45 PM. |
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Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2002
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Maybe this time they'll go one step further and pen a nasty letter to the editor.
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High School Varsity
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Ashville, OH
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Does any team need a PP specialist for the playoff run, 'cause I'd love for the Jackets to get rid of Bryan Berard (err... Bryan Berar) yesterday. Here's his lovely quote in the paper this morning:
"Hopefully, I’ll get moved somewhere and play in the playoffs," Berard said in Saturday's Columbus Dispatch. "I’m not playing as well as I’d like to play right now, obviously. But not being one of Hitch’s guys, I’m not playing as much as I’d like, either." Not being one of Hitch's guys = I suck at defense! He was never impressive at all here (sans a nice hat trick on a set of PP goals), and my wife went to the first exhibition game after the lockout when we first got Berard. She didn't know too much about hockey at the time, and when she got home, she was like "Who is this Berard guy, is he a minor league guy, because he can't play a lick of D." Got a chance to meet him a couple weeks ago a a Hockey Festival thing that the CBJ had, and you could tell he didn't want to be there, was probably the rudest player by a mile. I'm not usually a mean person, but so long Cyclops!!!!! (Sorry, its been a terrible season in Columbus, and I need to vent about it) |
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Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Keene, NH
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it's a HNIC game, right? I Tivo the 7pm game for coaches corner and satellite hot stove anyway
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Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2002
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One of them... but Leafs/Flyers is the main game.
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Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Keene, NH
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btw, just happened to be half-watching the Isles-Canadians today. Some Bergeron guy for the Isles just saved a certain goal by blocking a shot in the goal crease to preserve a 3-2 lead.
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College Starter
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Pro Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: USA
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TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING-Acquired D Shane O'Brien and a 2007 third-round draft pick from Anaheim for G Gerald Coleman and a 2007 first-round draft pick.
I like Shane O'Brien, but Burke is a genius. The Canucks were idiots to force him out. Last edited by Tekneek : 02-24-2007 at 07:02 PM. |
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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But it wasn't a "spilt second". It was 4.4 seconds. Not to mention in the NFL, a helmet-to-helmet hit would draw a flag and fine. BTW, the heavyweights just fought. Ottawa is playing very physical, trying to draw "blood", but the Sabres are just drawing the penalties and playing it more conservative. Last edited by Galaxy : 02-24-2007 at 07:20 PM. |
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