NBA Playoffs - Page 14

ThunderingHERD · 06-18-2006, 11:10 PM

Who let Hubey wear that tie? Obviously a moire pattern waiting to happen.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-18-2006, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Wade committed two fouls in the final ten seconds that weren't called, and there was another crucial late no-call in game 3 or 4, when he had 5 fouls, tripped a guy, and wasn't called.

Wade's been pivotal in this series, but unfortunately it's been as much for what the ref hasn't done as for what Wade has done.

Puh-lease.. I wonder if you would be arguing that these should be fouls if it was Kobe in those situations.

SackAttack · 06-18-2006, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Puh-lease.. I wonder if you would be arguing that these should be fouls if it was Kobe in those situations.

I'm not a Laker fan, so you can take that and shove it where the sun don't shine, 'kay?

I'm an impartial observer here. I really don't care whether Miami or Dallas wins this series.

But Wade has been on the beneficial end of so many ridiculous calls and non-calls this series, it isn't even funny. If you deny that, you're watching this through Heat-colored glasses.

jbmagic · 06-18-2006, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

I'm not a Laker fan, so you can take that and shove it where the sun don't shine, 'kay?

I'm an impartial observer here. I really don't care whether Miami or Dallas wins this series.

But Wade has been on the beneficial end of so many ridiculous calls and non-calls this series, it isn't even funny. If you deny that, you're watching this through Heat-colored glasses.

Why are you keying on those fouls only? There a lot of fouls that don't get called.

ThunderingHERD · 06-18-2006, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

But Wade has been on the beneficial end of so many ridiculous calls and non-calls this series, it isn't even funny. If you deny that, you're watching this through Heat-colored glasses.

"Fall down seven times, get seven whistles."

Eaglesfan27 · 06-18-2006, 11:17 PM

I've watched it back twice and there is no clear foul in the last 10 seconds of this game's regulation time.

SackAttack · 06-18-2006, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

Why are you keying on those fouls only? There a lot of fouls that don't get called.

Well, in the case of the Heat's miracle comeback in game 3 or 4, that non-call kept Wade on the court when he basically carried the Heat to the win. If he fouls out, there's about 7 minutes left and he's not around. That changed the entire complexion of the game.

On the two in the last ten seconds, one non-call gave the Heat 2 points, as Wade's basket wasn't disallowed, and the other prevented the Mavericks from taking two foul shots.

That's two games that the swallowed whistles could ultimately effect. In a 2-2 series in Game 5, that's pretty crucial, wouldn't you say?

SackAttack · 06-18-2006, 11:21 PM

Blocking foul?

You've got to be fucking kidding me.

SackAttack · 06-18-2006, 11:22 PM

Now O'Neal getting whistled for Wade's reach. Amazing.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-18-2006, 11:22 PM

Huge misses there.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-18-2006, 11:25 PM

Wow. Gary Payton with two big plays at the end of games.

st.cronin · 06-18-2006, 11:27 PM

I <3 Gary Payton. One of my favorite athletes in any sport.

SackAttack · 06-18-2006, 11:28 PM

Big play by Payton. Mavs left him a wide open path in the lane.

heybrad · 06-18-2006, 11:30 PM

You've got to be kidding me. They called that?

st.cronin · 06-18-2006, 11:30 PM

Now that WAS a foul.

SackAttack · 06-18-2006, 11:31 PM

What. The. Fuck.

He goes into the backcourt. That one, it looked to me like he touched it in the front court first, but it was close enough that I'm not going to quibble.

He runs a guy over on the sideline, no call.

He's double-teamed, slips through the DT, goes up for the shot, I saw NO contact on that shot.

But he gets two free-throws. Unbelievable.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-18-2006, 11:31 PM

What a stupid Time Out call!

SackAttack · 06-18-2006, 11:31 PM

If that was a foul, why wasn't Wade called on Terry in the waning seconds of the fourth?

This is unbelievable.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-18-2006, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

What. The. Fuck.

He goes into the backcourt. That one, it looked to me like he touched it in the front court first, but it was close enough that I'm not going to quibble.

He runs a guy over on the sideline, no call.

He's double-teamed, slips through the DT, goes up for the shot, I saw NO contact on that shot.

But he gets two free-throws. Unbelievable.

Did you ever watch M.J? He pushed Byron Russell much harder than Wade pushed that guy on that play just now. Stars get calls. Dwyane made an amazing play.

Meanwhile, that was a stupid T.O. that just cost Dallas their chance to get the last second win.

jbmagic · 06-18-2006, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

What a stupid Time Out call!

He did a Chris Webber mistake.

SackAttack · 06-18-2006, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

What a stupid Time Out call!

Yeah. Howard had a massive brainfart there.

But it should never have gotten to that point.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-18-2006, 11:33 PM

Great pressure FT's too. He is making his FT's which got them the win. I think Miami wins the series now. Great game.

st.cronin · 06-18-2006, 11:34 PM

haters

Wade is good. The officiating was fine.

SackAttack · 06-18-2006, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Did you ever watch M.J? He pushed Byron Russell much harder than Wade pushed that guy on that play just now. Stars get calls. Dwyane made an amazing play.

Meanwhile, that was a stupid T.O. that just cost Dallas their chance to get the last second win.

I was a kid in M.J.'s heyday. Basketball wasn't really on my radar, so I can't speak to that.

Stars get calls? I'll buy that.

But Dwyane Wade and the referees just gave the Mavericks a royal fucking-over in Miami in games 3 and 5. Howard made a bone-headed mistake that in the literal sense cost the Mavericks the game.

But Wade had so much help from the officials in games 3 and 5 it isn't even funny.

jbmagic · 06-18-2006, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Great pressure FT's too. He is making his FT's which got them the win. I think Miami wins the series now. Great game.

Only if Miami closes it out in Game 6.

If it goes to game 7, I see Dallas winning at home.

Groundhog · 06-18-2006, 11:37 PM

A very Nick Anderson-esque performance by Josh Howard tonight.

kingfc22 · 06-18-2006, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

haters

Wade is good. The officiating was fine.

Wade FT: 25 Attempts
Mavs FT: 25 Attempts

I see nothing wrong with that.

st.cronin · 06-18-2006, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Wade FT: 25 Attempts
Mavs FT: 25 Attempts

I see nothing wrong with that.

The fact that Wade has more toughness and guts than the entire Mavs roster couldn't possibly have anything to do with that, could it?

The worst possible thing the refs could do would be to make sure that both teams shoot an equal number of free throws. THAT would be a scandal.

SackAttack · 06-18-2006, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

The fact that Wade has more toughness and guts than the entire Mavs roster couldn't possibly have anything to do with that, could it?

Neither could the fact that Wade committed four fouls and wasn't whistled for any of them in the final 5:10 of play.

I mean, heaven forbid that the best player on the floor is capable of fouling anybody. Unthinkable!

TroyF · 06-18-2006, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Did you ever watch M.J? He pushed Byron Russell much harder than Wade pushed that guy on that play just now. Stars get calls. Dwyane made an amazing play.

Meanwhile, that was a stupid T.O. that just cost Dallas their chance to get the last second win.

Sorry Eagles, it wasn't right when Jordan got those calls and what I saw tonight wasn't right either. They allow Wade to push off on a clear offensive foul. Fine. OK, you give him that.

But then give him the final FT's? Just horrible officiating. The Mavs have every right to be upset. Give stars the 50/50 calls. Don't give them the 15/85 calls and certainly don't give them calls they clearly don't deserve.

kingfc22 · 06-18-2006, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

The fact that Wade has more toughness and guts than the entire Mavs roster couldn't possibly have anything to do with that, could it?

The worst possible thing the refs could do would be to make sure that both teams shoot an equal number of free throws. THAT would be a scandal.

Obviously I'm not saying that the refs should ensure that there is an equal number of FT's. But when you call a blocking foul when the offensive player has his back to the two defenders because he is doing a spin move is ridiculous.

TroyF · 06-18-2006, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

The fact that Wade has more toughness and guts than the entire Mavs roster couldn't possibly have anything to do with that, could it?

The worst possible thing the refs could do would be to make sure that both teams shoot an equal number of free throws. THAT would be a scandal.

On this point we agree 100%. If Wade was fouled in the act of shooting 30 times, he should get 60 trips to the line.

Provided the calls were consistent on both sides (types of fouls) and that he didn't get calls he clearly didn't deserve. That last one was terrible. Sorry, but it was.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-18-2006, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Sorry Eagles, it wasn't right when Jordan got those calls and what I saw tonight wasn't right either. They allow Wade to push off on a clear offensive foul. Fine. OK, you give him that.

But then give him the final FT's? Just horrible officiating. The Mavs have every right to be upset. Give stars the 50/50 calls. Don't give them the 15/85 calls and certainly don't give them calls they clearly don't deserve.

I'm not saying it is right, but it has been the case in the NBA for many years. No one should be surprised that Wade is getting those calls.

jbmagic · 06-18-2006, 11:49 PM

Why is it human nature for us to focus on fouls at end of games and not at beginning or middle of games?

They are all important too.

SackAttack · 06-18-2006, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I'm not saying it is right, but it has been the case in the NBA for many years. No one should be surprised that Wade is getting those calls.

Ooh! Ooh! Since you played the Kobe card, it's my turn for a straw-man argument!

Slavery was the case in the United States for nearly a hundred years!

You can fill in the blanks.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-18-2006, 11:50 PM

Also, Dirk has gotten some very questionable calls throughout the playoffs too.

TroyF · 06-18-2006, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I'm not saying it is right, but it has been the case in the NBA for many years. No one should be surprised that Wade is getting those calls.

Who said I was surprised? I told a friend before the series there would be a game where Wade would get a minimum of 25 FT's in a Heat win because he'd get all the calls.

You are right. It has went on for many years.
Nobody should be surprised Wade got those calls.

Those two things don't mean I have to enjoy it taking place. The fact they exist and everyone knows it incredibly sad IMO. To each his own.

TroyF · 06-18-2006, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Also, Dirk has gotten some very questionable calls throughout the playoffs too.

Maybe. Still, in every NBA playoffs, you can pick out a few games where the refs just went overboard for one side.

The two cases I've found in this years playoffs were Dallas at San Antonio game 7, where the refs did everything possible to ensure that would be a game and tonight's final 3 minutes.

I was cheering for the Spurs and Duncan to repeat for about 30 minutes of that game and then started cheering for the Mavericks because of how laughable it became. I don't care who wins this series. I'd rather see the Mavs win it than Shaq, but that's just a stylistic preferance. You can't help but be a fan of Dwayne Wade. He's just sensational.

But tonight was a travesty. There is no way in hell he should have been shooting FT's to end the game there. You can talk about the history of the league, what's happened previously in these playoffs, or any number of other things that may be true. And IMO, none of those things excuse the foul call I saw at the end of that game.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-18-2006, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Who said I was surprised? I told a friend before the series there would be a game where Wade would get a minimum of 25 FT's in a Heat win because he'd get all the calls.

You are right. It has went on for many years.
Nobody should be surprised Wade got those calls.

Those two things don't mean I have to enjoy it taking place. The fact they exist and everyone knows it incredibly sad IMO. To each his own.

I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to Sackattack's apparent shock that Wade is getting these calls. In any case, I'm still enjoying these finals. I enjoyed watching MJ back in the day even though he got many questionable calls. What Wade does and what MJ did on the court is simply amazing despite any questionable calls by the refs.

kingfc22 · 06-19-2006, 12:02 AM

And can someone explain why the NBA Finals is not a 2-2-1-1-1 format? Just does not make any sense to give the team with the lower record the game 5 home court advantage.

TroyF · 06-19-2006, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to Sackattack's apparent shock that Wade is getting these calls. In any case, I'm still enjoying these finals. I enjoyed watching MJ back in the day even though he got many questionable calls. What Wade does and what MJ did on the court is simply amazing despite any questionable calls by the refs.

It is. . . and it isn't.

Why the NBA can't figure out that their amazing play can be just as amazing without the calls as with them saddens me. Wade should have had a sensational night in a loss. Wouldn't have taken away from anything he did in the game.

Instead they felt the need to give him a game the Heat didn't deserve and in doing so they impacted the series for both teams. It's just not right.

But whatever the fans want, they get. I'm in the minority, I'll have to deal.

kingfc22 · 06-19-2006, 12:11 AM

Avery is pissed.

Swaggs · 06-19-2006, 12:17 AM

Shaq Fu.

Neon_Chaos · 06-19-2006, 02:23 AM

Ugh That was a horrible last 9 seconds to an otherwise great game.

From the non-call on the back-court violation by Wade, the non-call on the offensive foul by Wade on Terry, to the tippy-tappy foul called on Dallas, to the Timeout screw-up by Josh Howard.

SackAttack · 06-19-2006, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

What. The. Fuck.

He goes into the backcourt. That one, it looked to me like he touched it in the front court first, but it was close enough that I'm not going to quibble.

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Originally Posted by Mark Cuban

My understanding from the rule book is, if you are going to catch the ball in the backcourt, you have to be in the backcourt to catch it. You can't be established into the backcourt after you catch it or that's a backcourt violation.

He's got a dog in this fight, so consider the source, I know...but it looks like I'm not the only one who saw that and wondered why there wasn't a call.

Nowitzki was quoted as saying he believes Wade pushed off three players on his drive to the basket before the free throws. I saw contact with two that I believed to be an offensive foul.

And Josh Howard says he never asked the referee for a timeout.

I don't know if Cuban's right about the backcourt rule, but what he says meshes with what I was thinking as the play unfolded, and in that context, three things stink with that final play. If any one of them gets called properly, IMO, the Heat don't win this game.

EDIT: removed an orphan quote tag.

Neon_Chaos · 06-19-2006, 02:45 AM

I always thought that if you're going to catch the ball in the back-court, you should be properly established in the back-court. Catching the ball while in the air, jumping from the front-court to the back-court should have been called.

Of course, a freeze-frame would show if Wade was in the back-court before he touched the ball.

But I think all this is moot. Stern and co. have their "exciting" Finals scenario now.

But I think what happened tonight was pure and utter bullshit.

ThunderingHERD · 06-19-2006, 03:30 AM

Changing the subject--why can you inbound into the backcourt in the final 2 minutes anyway? Or, why can't you any other time? All of these "final 2 minutes" exceptions are ridiculous.

heybrad · 06-19-2006, 10:11 AM

Just watched the inbounds pass on you tube and it looks like a backcourt violation to me.

hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH1JFPGmSP4

Fidatelo · 06-19-2006, 10:22 AM

I feel bad for all the Dallas players and coaches that are going to get screwed out of a title because the league hates Cuban.

Warhammer · 06-19-2006, 12:36 PM

That has been my problem with the NBA for a long time. I get tired of the rulebook being in play for some players and not others. I get tired of there being contact on every play and a foul not being called.

Basketball is not a contact sport, yet because of the opinion that the players should be allowed to play, it is only the most flagrant of fouls that get called any more. It is pretty much the whim of the ref, what gets called and what is allowed to go. I had started watching more of the games on TV, up until the third game of this series, because I got sick of the refs and the preferential treatment of stars.

06-18-2006, 11:10 PM	#651
ThunderingHERD College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Who let Hubey wear that tie? Obviously a moire pattern waiting to happen. __________________ "I'm losing my edge--to better looking people... with better ideas... and more talent. And who are actually really, really nice." "Everyone's a voyeurist--they're watching me watch them watch me right now."

06-18-2006, 11:17 PM	#656
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I've watched it back twice and there is no clear foul in the last 10 seconds of this game's regulation time. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

06-18-2006, 11:22 PM	#660
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Huge misses there. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

06-18-2006, 11:25 PM	#661
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Wow. Gary Payton with two big plays at the end of games. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

06-18-2006, 11:27 PM	#662
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I <3 Gary Payton. One of my favorite athletes in any sport. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

06-18-2006, 11:21 PM	#658
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Blocking foul? You've got to be fucking kidding me.

06-18-2006, 11:22 PM	#659
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Now O'Neal getting whistled for Wade's reach. Amazing.

06-18-2006, 11:28 PM	#663
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Big play by Payton. Mavs left him a wide open path in the lane.

06-18-2006, 11:30 PM	#664
heybrad Norm!!! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Manassas, VA	You've got to be kidding me. They called that?

06-18-2006, 11:30 PM	#665
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Now that WAS a foul. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

06-18-2006, 11:31 PM	#666
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	What. The. Fuck. He goes into the backcourt. That one, it looked to me like he touched it in the front court first, but it was close enough that I'm not going to quibble. He runs a guy over on the sideline, no call. He's double-teamed, slips through the DT, goes up for the shot, I saw NO contact on that shot. But he gets two free-throws. Unbelievable.

06-18-2006, 11:31 PM	#667
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	What a stupid Time Out call! __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

06-18-2006, 11:31 PM	#668
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	If that was a foul, why wasn't Wade called on Terry in the waning seconds of the fourth? This is unbelievable.

06-18-2006, 11:33 PM	#672
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Great pressure FT's too. He is making his FT's which got them the win. I think Miami wins the series now. Great game. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

06-18-2006, 11:34 PM	#673
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	haters Wade is good. The officiating was fine. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

06-18-2006, 11:37 PM	#676
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	A very Nick Anderson-esque performance by Josh Howard tonight. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-18-2006, 11:49 PM	#684
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	Why is it human nature for us to focus on fouls at end of games and not at beginning or middle of games? They are all important too.

06-18-2006, 11:50 PM	#686
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Also, Dirk has gotten some very questionable calls throughout the playoffs too. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

06-19-2006, 12:02 AM	#690
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06-19-2006, 12:11 AM	#692
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06-19-2006, 12:17 AM	#693
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06-19-2006, 02:23 AM	#694
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Ugh That was a horrible last 9 seconds to an otherwise great game. From the non-call on the back-court violation by Wade, the non-call on the offensive foul by Wade on Terry, to the tippy-tappy foul called on Dallas, to the Timeout screw-up by Josh Howard. __________________ Come and see.

06-19-2006, 02:45 AM	#696
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	I always thought that if you're going to catch the ball in the back-court, you should be properly established in the back-court. Catching the ball while in the air, jumping from the front-court to the back-court should have been called. Of course, a freeze-frame would show if Wade was in the back-court before he touched the ball. But I think all this is moot. Stern and co. have their "exciting" Finals scenario now. But I think what happened tonight was pure and utter bullshit. __________________ Come and see.

06-19-2006, 03:30 AM	#697
ThunderingHERD College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Changing the subject--why can you inbound into the backcourt in the final 2 minutes anyway? Or, why can't you any other time? All of these "final 2 minutes" exceptions are ridiculous. __________________ "I'm losing my edge--to better looking people... with better ideas... and more talent. And who are actually really, really nice." "Everyone's a voyeurist--they're watching me watch them watch me right now."

06-19-2006, 10:11 AM	#698
heybrad Norm!!! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Manassas, VA	Just watched the inbounds pass on you tube and it looks like a backcourt violation to me. hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH1JFPGmSP4

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06-19-2006, 12:36 PM	#700
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	That has been my problem with the NBA for a long time. I get tired of the rulebook being in play for some players and not others. I get tired of there being contact on every play and a foul not being called. Basketball is not a contact sport, yet because of the opinion that the players should be allowed to play, it is only the most flagrant of fouls that get called any more. It is pretty much the whim of the ref, what gets called and what is allowed to go. I had started watching more of the games on TV, up until the third game of this series, because I got sick of the refs and the preferential treatment of stars.

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