Super Bowl XL - Page 14

biological warrior · 02-05-2006, 09:05 PM

Did the Steelers have a holdng penalty called? Odd , since they ran the ball alot.

AlexB · 02-05-2006, 09:06 PM

There were a couple of questionable calls, but Seattle made more mistakes than the Steelers, none more obvious than their sheer ineptitude inside both two minute warnings... Not sure if looking at the way the Pittsburgh played you could say it was so good they deserved to win, but the Seahawks definitely did not deserve a victory off that performance today

Schmidty · 02-05-2006, 09:06 PM

Holmgren is an overrated jackass. Always has been and always will be.

cthomer5000 · 02-05-2006, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

Does the NFL need to get rid of the bye week in between the title games? Seems like teams get out motion with it.

IT's all about the tourism for the hos city. THey'll be going with the bye week as often as possible until the end of time.

kingfc22 · 02-05-2006, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Craptacular

Did Holmgren fall in a hole, or what?

I want to see him just rip into the officiating in his news conference. That would make my day.

PilotMan · 02-05-2006, 09:07 PM

If Holmgren didn't come out to shake that is a totally classless decision on his part. Total BS, I will lose all respect for him if that is the case.

QuikSand · 02-05-2006, 09:07 PM

Easily the most frustrating Superbowl I have watched.

I wasn't rooting for Seattle with any vigor, and I am generally opposed to blaming the officials for the outcome... but seeing three obviously game-changing "close calls" all go against the Seahawks was truly difficult to watch. Then, watching them inexplicably and catastrophically mismanage the end of both halves made it even more so.

More grinding of my teeth in that game than in any I can ever remember, certainly for a Superbowl game.

SnowMan · 02-05-2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Congrats to Cowher and the Steelers team. They had an amazing run in the playoffs and clearly destiny was on their side.

I will not back down from the refs though. That was one of the most biased, horrific reffing performences I've ever seen in a Super Bowl. It was truly a horrible effort and I sincerely hope I never see any of this crew in another Super Bowl again.

Quoted for truth. I've never seen a Super Bowl this ugly, and I've seen my team lose before so I don't think it's just that. I don't mind getting beat by the other team, or even if you make mistakes that gives the other team the game. But when there are so many iffy calls that go all in favor of one team, it's a tough thing to handle.

TroyF · 02-05-2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

That is only classless for certain teams.

Ohy believe me, I can't stand it when "my team" does it. It's out of line no matter what team or player does it. For two Steeler LB's to stand over Stevens and taunt him in that situation is about as classless as it gets. Doesn't mean they are classless players. Doesn't mean I don't like them. (actually, I like both Porter and Haggand, CSU boys)

But what they did there WAS classless. Say what you want about the Patriots (and I especially hate the cheap shot artist Harrison), they don't act like that when they beat you. They handled the wins with dignity. Much, much more than the Steelers showed there.

biological warrior · 02-05-2006, 09:07 PM

Hasselbeck looked very confused during the final drive before ht and during the 2 min drill. Does he always have that deer in the headlights look>?

astrosfan64 · 02-05-2006, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

What did astrosfan bet, was the line 3.5? Wouldn't he be pissed off now if Seattle scored and got a two point conversion.

Line was 4.0 where I bet. I had half my money on a straight steeler bet -4. Which I won. Then I teased the second half of my money, to +2 Steelers and over 40 1/2. Didn't hit the over.

I broke even on the superbowl.

Should of just bet it straight up and said screw the teaser.

lynchjm24 · 02-05-2006, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Congrats to Cowher and the Steelers team. They had an amazing run in the playoffs and clearly destiny was on their side.

I will not back down from the refs though. That was one of the most biased, horrific reffing performences I've ever seen in a Super Bowl. It was truly a horrible effort and I sincerely hope I never see any of this crew in another Super Bowl again.

I wouldn't call it biased. Just horribly inept and a disgrace to the stripes. Never mind Super Bowl that was a bad performance for a Titans/Ravens game in October.

Galaxy · 02-05-2006, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

If Holmgren didn't come out to shake that is a totally classless decision on his part. Total BS, I will lose all respect for him if that is the case.

Agree, and I was rooting for the Hawks (only thanks to astrofan). I do like Cowher a lot. I like how he was concern over congratting Holmgreen for five minutes or so. A classy guy.

biological warrior · 02-05-2006, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

Easily the most frustrating Superbowl I have watched.

I wasn't rooting for Seattle with any vigor, and I am generally opposed to blaming the officials for the outcome... but seeing three obviously game-changing "close calls" all go against the Seahawks was truly difficult to watch. Then, watching them inexplicably and catastrophically mismanage the end of both halves made it even more so.

More grinding of my teeth in that game than in any I can ever remember, certainly for a Superbowl game.

Couldnt have said it better myself. and congrats on 12000.

Senator · 02-05-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

Easily the most frustrating Superbowl I have watched.

I wasn't rooting for Seattle with any vigor, and I am generally opposed to blaming the officials for the outcome... but seeing three obviously game-changing "close calls" all go against the Seahawks was truly difficult to watch. Then, watching them inexplicably and catastrophically mismanage the end of both halves made it even more so.

More grinding of my teeth in that game than in any I can ever remember, certainly for a Superbowl game.

This sums it up for me. Now, the long wait for next season. The long wait.

kingfc22 · 02-05-2006, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

Agree, and I was rooting for the Hawks. I do like Cowher a lot.

Yea, I was rooting for the Steelers to go to the SB once NE went down in the AFC and would probably have rooted for them today if they had played CAR. Glad to see Cowher win one since he is a very solid coach and I would love to have him coach my team anytime.

Craptacular · 02-05-2006, 09:11 PM

Regarding Holmgren ...

The only thing I can think of is that the guy who was leading Cohwer onto the field took him away from midfield ... down to like the 20. Was Holmgren at midfield? Did it just take a while for them to get together? If Holmgren did take off, I agree, I would lose almost all respect for him.

astrosfan64 · 02-05-2006, 09:11 PM

Neither team should of won.

TroyF · 02-05-2006, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lynchjm24

I wouldn't call it biased. Just horribly inept and a disgrace to the stripes. Never mind Super Bowl that was a bad performance for a Titans/Ravens game in October.

If both teams had been treated to equally poor officiating, I wouldn't have used the word biased. But for EVERY major call in the game to go against Seattle, I'm calling it biased. I don't care how the NFL tries to spin it. I felt like I was watching an NBA game today. (and before the NBA fans blast me, I love the NBA despite the consistently biased officiating in that league)

GrantDawg · 02-05-2006, 09:11 PM

It was not the prettiest of games, and one Seattle should have won. They have no one but themselves to blame for the loss, though. I'm happy for Cowher, and Hines.

cuervo72 · 02-05-2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by astrosfan64

Neither team should of won.

ping: QuikSand

Schmidty · 02-05-2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

Then, watching them inexplicably and catastrophically mismanage the end of both halves made it even more so.

THAT was the deciding factor of this game. And Holmgren is responsible for it. What a fucking moron.

biological warrior · 02-05-2006, 09:12 PM

Jeez, Tagliabue sounds lifeless.

cthomer5000 · 02-05-2006, 09:12 PM

Very weird game, and not a particularly fun one to watch. Seattle shot themselves in the foot repeatedly, while the Steelers only did so once or twice.

I'm very happy for Cowher and Bettis, they've earned it over the course of their careers. The game rates pretty low on the Super-Bowl-O-Meter though.

biological warrior · 02-05-2006, 09:13 PM

Anyone have the final time of possession for both teams?

JW · 02-05-2006, 09:13 PM

BREAKING: AP votes Colts NFL Champions.

kingfc22 · 02-05-2006, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

The game rates pretty low on the Super-Bowl-O-Meter though.

And so did the commercials.

GrantDawg · 02-05-2006, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Very weird game, and not a particularly fun one to watch. Seattle shot themselves in the foot repeatedly, while the Steelers only did so once or twice.

I'm very happy for Cowher and Bettis, they've earned it over the course of their careers. The game rates pretty low on the Super-Bowl-O-Meter though.

It wasn't as bad as the blow-outs, but it will not be remembered as a great one.

SunDevil · 02-05-2006, 09:14 PM

Regardless, of who I wanted to win, Bill Cohwer just made me realized what I try champion is suppose to do. I am impressed.

kingfc22 · 02-05-2006, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by biological warrior

Anyone have the final time of possession for both teams?

SEA - 33:02
PIT - 26:58

Craptacular · 02-05-2006, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

THAT was the deciding factor of this game. And Holmgren is responsible for it. What a fucking moron.

I think the QB f-ed up the first half. They probably called two plays during the previous TO, and apparently, Matt audibled TWICE with the clock running.

cthomer5000 · 02-05-2006, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by biological warrior

Anyone have the final time of possession for both teams?


1st Downs	20	14
Rushing	5	6
Passing	15	8
Penalty	0	0
3rd-Down Conversions	5-17	8-15
4th-Down Conversions	1-2	0-0
Punts-Average	6-50.2	6-48.7
Return Yards	174	99
Punts-Returns	4-27	2-32
Kickoffs-Returns	4-71	2-43
Int.-Returns	2-76	1-24
Penalties-Yards	7-70	3-20
Fumbles-Lost	0-0	0-0
Time Of Pos.	33:02	26:58

PilotMan · 02-05-2006, 09:15 PM

Will Randle El be resigned? He is a free agent. Personally, the team doesn't win without him.

sabotai · 02-05-2006, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

If both teams had been treated to equally poor officiating, I wouldn't have used the word biased. But for EVERY major call in the game to go against Seattle, I'm calling it biased. I don't care how the NFL tries to spin it. I felt like I was watching an NBA game today. (and before the NBA fans blast me, I love the NBA despite the consistently biased officiating in that league)

Well, I just guess that certain people need their conspiracies...

cthomer5000 · 02-05-2006, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

And so did the commercials.

I've never been one to enjoy them. I usually get up to take a leak, get something to drink, look at FOFC, etc...

kingfc22 · 02-05-2006, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000


Penalties-Yards	7-70	3-20

How many of these took away plays over 15 yds?

cthomer5000 · 02-05-2006, 09:16 PM

Bettis basically just announced his retirement.

cthomer5000 · 02-05-2006, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

How many of these took away plays over 15 yds?

You could also ask "how many penalites allowed them to break plays of 15 yards or more?"

sabotai · 02-05-2006, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

How many of these took away plays over 15 yds?

3, 2 in the first quarter and one at the beginning of the 4th (One being that obvious pass interference that led to a TD)

SnowMan · 02-05-2006, 09:20 PM

Ok honest question here. In regards to a penalty that really didn't matter too much in the grand scheme: How in the world do you 'block below the knees' when you're tackling the guy with the ball?

Eaglesfan27 · 02-05-2006, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

If Holmgren didn't come out to shake that is a totally classless decision on his part. Total BS, I will lose all respect for him if that is the case.

Same here.

PilotMan · 02-05-2006, 09:21 PM

Bettis was going out on top, and I am glad that he did.

On behalf of the Steelers I would like to thank tha Chargers for completely melting down in the stretch and for showing us how to beat the Colts.

GrantDawg · 02-05-2006, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowMan

Ok honest question here. In regards to a penalty that really didn't matter too much in the grand scheme: How in the world do you 'block below the knees' when you're tackling the guy with the ball?

That was the one call that I say they completely blew. I think that he called it on him "cutting" the player next to guy with the ball, but even then he didn't actually cut him.

sabotai · 02-05-2006, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowMan

Ok honest question here. In regards to a penalty that really didn't matter too much in the grand scheme: How in the world do you 'block below the knees' when you're tackling the guy with the ball?

That was the one horrible call that I saw. What I think the refs thought they saw (or, some of the conspiracy theorists here will say the refs made up) was that they thought Hasselback was going to the knees of the player in front of the guy that got tackled. The guy who intercepted the ball had someone running in front of him (idealy to block someone) and the refs thought he was going for the blocker's knees.

Which, as I said, was the wrong call. He clearly wasn't and the the refs fucked that one up.

TroyF · 02-05-2006, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowMan

Ok honest question here. In regards to a penalty that really didn't matter too much in the grand scheme: How in the world do you 'block below the knees' when you're tackling the guy with the ball?

Actually, that play did matter in the grand scheme.

It moved the ball from the 35 or so to the 40. The Steelers call that trick play only around the fifty yard line. They don't call it on their side of the field. The one long run set up the trick play when if there was no penalty it would have been 1rst and 10 at the 35. The trick play would have only happened had the Steelers picked up another first down.

PilotMan · 02-05-2006, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowMan

Ok honest question here. In regards to a penalty that really didn't matter too much in the grand scheme: How in the world do you 'block below the knees' when you're tackling the guy with the ball?

That was a bad call, but it didn't make a significant difference in the game. Certainly was a poor call though.

The break seems like it was bad for both teams as well as refs.

Izulde · 02-05-2006, 09:23 PM

Yay Steelers won! I said before the game I thought Bettis was going to retire if the Steelers won. I'm glad he's retiring... No better way to go out than on top... and it's great to see Cowher finally get the ring, too.

PilotMan · 02-05-2006, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Actually, that play did matter in the grand scheme.

It moved the ball from the 35 or so to the 40. The Steelers call that trick play only around the fifty yard line. They don't call it on their side of the field. The one long run set up the trick play when if there was no penalty it would have been 1rst and 10 at the 35. The trick play would have only happened had the Steelers picked up another first down.

No way to tell if that was going to make a huge impact. Calling it important seems like a stretch at best.

biological warrior · 02-05-2006, 09:25 PM

On an interview here a few years back Lem Banker (Legendary Vegas handicapper) said something like: '' Some 70 NFL games over the past years being ''thrown away for betting purposes.''

Glengoyne · 02-05-2006, 09:25 PM

The sloppiest Superbowl in recent memory.

Calls take points off the board for the Seahawks, but the Seahawks still do more than enough to lose the game even without those setbacks. They seemingly didn't capitalize on anything.

The Steelers succeed on three scores. A Gift, a game-breaking run, and a gadget play, and then they do the little things to secure the win.

I would be willing to say that the Seahawks Lost this game, but really the Steelers did what they needed to do to beat them.

02-05-2006, 09:06 PM	#652
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	There were a couple of questionable calls, but Seattle made more mistakes than the Steelers, none more obvious than their sheer ineptitude inside both two minute warnings... Not sure if looking at the way the Pittsburgh played you could say it was so good they deserved to win, but the Seahawks definitely did not deserve a victory off that performance today __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports!

02-05-2006, 09:06 PM	#653
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Holmgren is an overrated jackass. Always has been and always will be. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

02-05-2006, 09:07 PM	#656
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	If Holmgren didn't come out to shake that is a totally classless decision on his part. Total BS, I will lose all respect for him if that is the case. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

02-05-2006, 09:15 PM	#683
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Will Randle El be resigned? He is a free agent. Personally, the team doesn't win without him. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam Last edited by PilotMan : 02-05-2006 at 09:16 PM.

02-05-2006, 09:21 PM	#692
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Bettis was going out on top, and I am glad that he did. On behalf of the Steelers I would like to thank tha Chargers for completely melting down in the stretch and for showing us how to beat the Colts. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

02-05-2006, 09:05 PM	#651
biological warrior High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2005	Did the Steelers have a holdng penalty called? Odd , since they ran the ball alot.

02-05-2006, 09:07 PM	#657
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Easily the most frustrating Superbowl I have watched. I wasn't rooting for Seattle with any vigor, and I am generally opposed to blaming the officials for the outcome... but seeing three obviously game-changing "close calls" all go against the Seahawks was truly difficult to watch. Then, watching them inexplicably and catastrophically mismanage the end of both halves made it even more so. More grinding of my teeth in that game than in any I can ever remember, certainly for a Superbowl game.

02-05-2006, 09:07 PM	#660
biological warrior High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2005	Hasselbeck looked very confused during the final drive before ht and during the 2 min drill. Does he always have that deer in the headlights look>?

02-05-2006, 09:11 PM	#667
Craptacular College Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Mad City, WI	Regarding Holmgren ... The only thing I can think of is that the guy who was leading Cohwer onto the field took him away from midfield ... down to like the 20. Was Holmgren at midfield? Did it just take a while for them to get together? If Holmgren did take off, I agree, I would lose almost all respect for him.

02-05-2006, 09:11 PM	#668
astrosfan64 College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2004	Neither team should of won.

02-05-2006, 09:11 PM	#670
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	It was not the prettiest of games, and one Seattle should have won. They have no one but themselves to blame for the loss, though. I'm happy for Cowher, and Hines.

02-05-2006, 09:12 PM	#673
biological warrior High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2005	Jeez, Tagliabue sounds lifeless.

02-05-2006, 09:13 PM	#675
biological warrior High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2005	Anyone have the final time of possession for both teams?

02-05-2006, 09:13 PM	#676
JW College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Monroe, LA, USA	BREAKING: AP votes Colts NFL Champions.

02-05-2006, 09:14 PM	#679
SunDevil College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Tempe, AZ	Regardless, of who I wanted to win, Bill Cohwer just made me realized what I try champion is suppose to do. I am impressed.

02-05-2006, 09:20 PM	#690
SnowMan High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Georgia via Alaska via Washington	Ok honest question here. In regards to a penalty that really didn't matter too much in the grand scheme: How in the world do you 'block below the knees' when you're tackling the guy with the ball?

02-05-2006, 09:23 PM	#697
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Yay Steelers won! I said before the game I thought Bettis was going to retire if the Steelers won. I'm glad he's retiring... No better way to go out than on top... and it's great to see Cowher finally get the ring, too. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

02-05-2006, 09:25 PM	#699
biological warrior High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2005	On an interview here a few years back Lem Banker (Legendary Vegas handicapper) said something like: '' Some 70 NFL games over the past years being ''thrown away for betting purposes.''

02-05-2006, 09:25 PM	#700
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	The sloppiest Superbowl in recent memory. Calls take points off the board for the Seahawks, but the Seahawks still do more than enough to lose the game even without those setbacks. They seemingly didn't capitalize on anything. The Steelers succeed on three scores. A Gift, a game-breaking run, and a gadget play, and then they do the little things to secure the win. I would be willing to say that the Seahawks Lost this game, but really the Steelers did what they needed to do to beat them.

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