04-19-2006, 01:21 PM | #651 |
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hoops I don't quite get where you're attempting to get the insight with our strike and then miss, at least without knowing what raiders is.
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04-19-2006, 01:31 PM | #652 |
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After re-reading the threads before crashing last night I had seen a couple of different people lament that voting records were shot now that we are seeing a conversion. I would maintain, regardless of what role Raiders has, that voting records will still retain value throughout the game. Particularly if we are successful in keeping the number of Things as low as they have been up to this point over the next couple of days.
Obviously it will be easier for us to act with new information from a seer, bodyguard, etc. But if that is not available for us tomorrow I'm hoping that we don't see a rush to dismiss voting records too quickly. Do you want to talk about specific players now? I would prefer not to give any additional information to the Thing as he goes hunting tonight. But if you think it makes sense in terms of helping the still-active special scientist roles then we can start to go down this path a little bit. |
04-19-2006, 01:41 PM | #653 |
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Schmidty, what is the plan with WVUfan? I don't think I've seen him in the thread the last two days and I know we have not seen a vote in that time ...
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04-19-2006, 01:47 PM | #654 |
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Can someone check this? I had the final count (including the posts at 9:01):
dubb93 (6): JeeberD, tanglewood, Raiders Army, Blade6119, mckerney, Coffee Warlord Raiders Army (2): hoopsguy, Barkeep49 JeeberD (2): Swaggs, path hoopsguy (1): dubb93 Blade6119 (1): st. cronin tanglewood (1): Anxiety |
04-19-2006, 01:49 PM | #655 | |
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Yeah, I've been thinking about that. I asked a couple of people to replace pennywise earlier in the game but was turned down until Barkeep said yes. I'm not sure who to ask at this point honestly. If anyone has any ideas, let me know.
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04-19-2006, 01:49 PM | #656 |
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Just so you guys understand and realize, I was not on the computer after about 7 PM EST last night. Part of it was that I don't care if I'm tested, thus any late switches to votes don't matter to me and the other part was that I wasn't going to switch my vote off dubb.
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04-19-2006, 01:51 PM | #658 |
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Raiders, your counts look right to me - worked off of my Post #609 and made the changes for Blade's vote and my vote that were 8:01 to match your list.
I'm out for awhile, will check back later this afternoon to see if the night actions are processed early. |
04-19-2006, 01:56 PM | #659 |
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The night passes uneventfully, and thankfully everyone is able to get some actual rest. You wake up refreshed and more determined than ever to eliminate the monsters within your midst.
Day 3 has now begun. Votes will be due by Thursday at 9 p.m. EST (Or whenever everyone has voted).
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04-19-2006, 01:59 PM | #660 |
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I am going to go ahead and put my vote out now, since I might not be back before 7.
Vote JeeberD I do not have a whole lot to go on with my vote, other than vote history (which has been pretty all over the place so far, unfortunately), but I just think that, if I were one of the badguys, I would target someone who has been cleared. If anyone has any compelling reasons for me to switch votes, I'm definitely willing to listen to anything. |
04-19-2006, 02:00 PM | #661 |
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Ok hoops I'd be interested to hear your theories.
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Whoops. Guess the 7 PM deadline was for night actions. Well, my vote is out there. Plenty of time for debate now, I guess. |
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04-19-2006, 02:03 PM | #663 |
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Schmidty: Are you going to attempt to replace WVU?
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As I said a few posts above, I'm in the process of trying, but if anyone knows of someone who is interested, let me know.
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04-19-2006, 02:07 PM | #665 |
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Okay. I'm gonna have to go with a silent conversion here. Damn.
Based on voting patterns, these are my prime suspects at this point: 1. JeeberD, voted twice for a known scientist (Day 2 both votes) 2a and b. Coffee Warlord and Blade 6119, voted for a known scientist (Day 2 2nd vote) None of the above voted for saldana on day 2. Next tier is: 4. tanglewood, voted for a known scientist and not sure if his vote counted towards saldana since it was late (at that point, it didn't matter) 5a,b, & c. mckerney, hoopsguy, and Barkeep49, voted for scientists and for saldana Unknowns: st. cronin, Swaggs, Anxiety, WVUFan. From their votes, we don't know what they voted for. Possible good guy: path12, voted for saldana, didn't vote for a known scientist |
04-19-2006, 02:13 PM | #666 |
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I've voted for 2 people, saldana and you. So I have voted for 0 known scientists at this time. I don't know about hoops or mckerney, but as I was a D1 replacement I have no D1 vote. |
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This is so fuckin flawed I don't even know where to begin picking apart this "analysis". VOTE RAIDERS ARMY
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04-19-2006, 02:33 PM | #668 |
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I tried this all yesterday, and since i wasnt converted im going to try it again:
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Also, facts are facts. They're immutable unlike your pseudo-arguments.
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Hell, even CW could be counted as on you as his vote came at 6:00 and therefore technically past the deadline based on how you interpret it. But what do i know, im obviously a suspect for trying to save a villager yesterday ...you taught us quite well thats not your goal, and that we should accuse those that do(you already tore into hoops and myself)
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He said something that distrubed me, but I can't remember what, so on general feeling alone, I vote for him until someone can convience me to vote for someone else. -Anxiety
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Also I find it funny that I'm being looked at as the one who led the charge against dubb. I laid out my argument and left the boards last night two hours before the deadline. If I was so adamant about dubb being a Thing, wouldn't I have stuck around to ensure he was tested? If I were a Thing, wouldn't I have stuck around to defend myself?
In all actuality, I'm not sure I would stick around to defend myself if I were a Thing. If I were in their position a reasonable strategy would be to remain silent since the more you try to fight the votes (ala saldana (albeit briefly)) then the more guilty you look. Somewhat of an interesting twist. |
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SCHMIDTY, DID MY SWAP TO DUBB AT 6:01 COUNT AS OFFICIAL?
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Sigh. Alright. I'm not going to let us waste a day on RA.
Make this real simple. Unless he was converted last night, which I doubt due to the pressure on him, RA is a scientist. Why? I'm the seer. Or in this game, Geneticist. Scans to date: Day 1: Hoops (Clean) Day 2: RA (Clean) (No, didn't get a Night 0 scan) Now. The Things can try and convert me if they wish, but they aren't gonna get a lot of mileage out of me, since I'm now common knowledge. I'll be posting my scan results every day. Convert me if you want, but the first time the Things try and use me to false scan someone, the secret will be out. Also, if converted, if the Things decide to sacrifice one of their own to keep me "safe", I ask that you immediately vote me as the 2nd vote of the night. 'Course, it'd be better if I get bodyguarded. |
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Again, those suspects were based on VOTING PATTERNS. Please re-read the post. Maybe you should quit while you're behind on this line of reasoning as you fly from one argument to the other. You still have not proven why my post #665 is misleading. Bottom line is that those votes counted. The analysis shouldn't be taken for anything more than that.
I did not say that they were anyone else's suspects. I did not say that they were based on "feelings". THEY WERE BASED ON FINAL VOTES. If I were so sure of my list of suspects, I would've voted for JeeberD then and there. Get over yourself. |
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Okay. Coffee Warlord slipped down my list of suspects a lot.
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Believe me, I've gone back and forth on doing this. However, the longer I wait, the longer I run the risk of being converted anyway, and any info I've collected becomes useless. Further, the seer isn't as powerful in this game, as a scan isn't valid all that long. Even if I say someone is clean, they could be clean for what...a day...before it becomes highly questionable. I'm truly hoping there's a bodyguard as well. |
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By the way. Reason #2 my role isn't as good as usual, and it also leads me to believe there may be a second seer out there.
My "seer" power comes from testing a sample of hair. There's a small chance, if I target a Thing, I am detected and converted. Better to come out now. |
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Hmmm...with this newfound knowledge of CW,
Remember Qwik voted for hoops on day 1. Makes sense there. mckerney also slides up the suspect list according to votes since he voted for CW on day 1, saldana day 2, and dubb day 3. Actually, I made a mistake on my first version. JeeberD has the worst voting record, voting 3 times for scientists (CW, dubb and dubb) Blade has the second worst voting record, voting 2 times for scientists (JeeberD and dubb (or me, whatever)) Coffee Warlord also has voted 2 times for scientists (hoops and dubb), but he has claimed the seer role, which I believe To me, the top two suspects according to voting records (that's for you Blade) are Jeebs and Blade. I'm leaning more towards Blade, obviously. |
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Good reasoning there.
Unvote Hoopsguy Vote Blade -Anxiety
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Damn it CW I had you as the seer already. I wish you hadn't come out. That's why I asked you yesterday how confident of your vote you were. When you told me not too confident I knew you hadn't scanned him. Damn.
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Bring it...Ive got nothing to hide, no trusted allies, and a suspicion of everyone. Test me everyday until we lose and it will get you nowhere(until they convert me for a good laugh). Do what you will, but im stating my views as you are yours. My views include your views being wrong, but to each his own. As i said, bring it
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Looking at my notebook, I shouldn't have agreed with post #654. My final vote count was as follows:
Hoopsguy - Dubb Tanglewood - Anxiety Raiders - Blade, Barkeep, hoopsguy Jeeber - path, Swaggs Dubb - Raiders Army, mckerney, JeeberD, tanglewood, Coffee Warlord Blade - st. cronin I did NOT count the 9:01 votes as they were clearly past the deadline. Sorry if I confused anyone.
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