OT: The FOFC Music Draft - Page 14

Warhammer · 02-23-2007, 01:43 PM

Uh... Wow...

Oilers9911 · 02-23-2007, 01:46 PM

With the 1st pick of the 6th round I select....

Arena - Rock and Roll All Night - Kiss

Classic - 1.10 Hotel California - The Eagles
Epic - 2.1 American Pie - Don McLean
Arena - Arena - Rock and Roll All Night - Kiss
Trendsetter -
Love Song - 5.10 - My Heart Will Go On (Theme from Titanic) - Celine Dion
One-Hit Wonder - 3.10 Macarena - Los Del Rio
Party -
Crossover -
Cover -
Anti-Establishment - 4.1 We're Not Gonna Take It - Twisted Sister

wade moore · 02-23-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by adubroff

The first three songs are clearly seminal trendsetters, and if the criteria is which song is most directly responsible for a trend, then Smells is right where it belongs. It will be really interesting to see how people react to Smells vs Rappers...Smells is like 100% responsible for a 5 year trend, and Rappers is maybe 85% responsible for a 25 year trend that's been immense for the last decade. The 4th and 5th picks prove why neither of these songs was a trendsetter on the level of the first 3(two trendsetters for one trend?). Respect is a great song, and a solid move in terms of wrapping up a top woman, but I don't think of it as a trendsetter.

I couldn't disagree with you more here. Those that say Smells was directly responsible for the grunge movement do not know the grunge movement.

Rappers was much more directly responsbile for creating a genre, where Smells played a large part in a genre of trendy music that is basically dead now... To me Rappers is head and shoulders above Smells because it is more responsible AND the trend lasted longer.

wade moore · 02-23-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhammer

Uh... Wow...

I think Oilers just killed any shot he had of winning.

KevinNU7 · 02-23-2007, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Oilers9911

With the 10th pick of the 5th round. I am (not) proud to select, in fact I think I just threw up in my mouth a little....

Love Song - Celine Dion - My Heart Will Go On (Theme from Titanic)

Oilers when everyone has made their picks in epic/classic and love song I will most the most epically awesome love song ever and its shear awesomeness will make you vomit for months.

You will all kick yourself that you missed this one.

Subby · 02-23-2007, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Oilers9911

With the 1st pick of the 6th round I select....
Arena - Rock and Roll All Night - Kiss

Good save after that titanic of a pick

Oilers9911 · 02-23-2007, 01:50 PM

And why is that? Sure its a horrible song but as horrible love songs go it was incredibly popular and you still hear it.

Oilers9911 · 02-23-2007, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinNU7

Oilers when everyone has made their picks in epic/classic and love song I will most the most epically awesome love song ever and its shear awesomeness will make you vomit for months.

You will all kick yourself that you missed this one.

Perhaps you are right...too many songs to remember

lordscarlet · 02-23-2007, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

I couldn't disagree with you more here. Those that say Smells was directly responsible for the grunge movement do not know the grunge movement.

Rappers was much more directly responsbile for creating a genre, where Smells played a large part in a genre of trendy music that is basically dead now... To me Rappers is head and shoulders above Smells because it is more responsible AND the trend lasted longer.

"criteria is which song is most directly responsible for a trend,". He's not saying Smells was the first. He's saying it was responsible for the trend.

vtbub · 02-23-2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Oilers9911

And why is that? Sure its a horrible song but as horrible love songs go it was incredibly popular and you still hear it.

The song makes me want to stick bad things in my ears, but a very solid pick if you think about it.

Oilers9911 · 02-23-2007, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by vtbub

The song makes me want to stick bad things in my ears, but a very solid pick if you think about it.

I agree, I don't see why all the hate for that pick. It might be the most bone jarringly annoying song ever but it's a fairly recent, very popular love song and it gets a woman pick out of the way.

wade moore · 02-23-2007, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Oilers9911

And why is that? Sure its a horrible song but as horrible love songs go it was incredibly popular and you still hear it.

I say that because of the audience that will be voting.

Could be wrong, but I see this board as a group that will have much Celine hatred.

Oilers9911 · 02-23-2007, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore

I say that because of the audience that will be voting.

Could be wrong, but I see this board as a group that will have much Celine hatred.

Trust me, as do I. She is a blight on my fine nation of Canada

But hopefully the voting audience will look past their hatred and look at the pick objectively.

st.cronin · 02-23-2007, 02:03 PM

I actually like Celine Dion. I don't like that particular song, though.

lordscarlet · 02-23-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Oilers9911

Trust me, as do I. She is a blight on my fine nation of Canada

But hopefully the voting audience will look past their hatred and look at the pick objectively.

Now that just killed you. You're Canadian?!?

KevinNU7 · 02-23-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I actually like Celine Dion. I don't like that particular song, though.

you are complex

Maple Leafs · 02-23-2007, 02:10 PM

Bucc's pick:

2.2 - Classic - Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones
Epic -
3.9 - Born in the U.S.A.- Bruce Springsteen - Arena
6.2 - Johnny B Goode - Chuck Berry - Trendsetter
4.2 - Imagine - John Lennon - Love Song
5.9 - Baby Got Back - Sir Mix-a-Lot - One-hit wonder
Party -
Crossover -
Cover -
1.9 Anti-Establishment - Fight the Power - Public Enemy

st.cronin · 02-23-2007, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinNU7

you are complex

No, not really.

Oilers9911 · 02-23-2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet

Now that just killed you. You're Canadian?!?

Should I have not mentioned that until AFTER the voting?

Warhammer · 02-23-2007, 02:19 PM

All Coming Back To Me Now is a better Celine song.

wade moore · 02-23-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhammer

All Coming Back To Me Now is a better Celine song.

I just had my realization that all of the analysis in the world and masses are going to end up picking lists because their 1 favorite song is on there..

stupid masses..

Subby · 02-23-2007, 02:20 PM

I am pretty sure Bucc was at Chuck Berry's bar mitzvah...just some added flavor there.

Maple Leafs · 02-23-2007, 02:20 PM

lordscarlet is on the clock.

lordscarlet · 02-23-2007, 02:21 PM

Ground control to Major Tom
Ground control to Major Tom
It's time for lordscarlet's Epic Song

This is my biggest gamble yet. I think it's a solid choice, but I'm not sure how everyone else is going to feel about it. Everyone has pretty much diverged from ML's original "Epic" definition to what I feel is more appropriate. A sprawling, involved, lyrical song. With the third pick of the sixth round, I choose "Space Oddity" by David Bowie.

Classic -
Epic - "Space Oddity", David Bowie
Arena - 5.8 - "You Shook Me All Night Long", AC/DC
Trendsetter - 2.3 - "Rapper's Delight", The Sugarhill Gang
Love Song -
One-Hit Wonder -
Party - 4.3 - "(You Gotta) Fight for Your Right (to Party)", Beastie Boys
Crossover - 1.8 - "Walk This Way", Run-D.M.C. feat. Aerosmith
Cover -Anti-Establishment - 3.8 - "Killing in the Name", Rage Against the Machine

Warhammer · 02-23-2007, 02:22 PM

Bucc has me scratching my head. Good song but trendsetter?

Maple Leafs · 02-23-2007, 02:24 PM

Well, that certainly screws me over for this round. Thanks, ass.

Subby · 02-23-2007, 02:24 PM

Crap I was stronlgy considering Ziggy Stardust for trendsetter...

Warhammer · 02-23-2007, 02:26 PM

Good one LS.

Wade, that what much of it will boil down to in some categories. Trendsetters, Crossovers, and Anti-Establishment have some arguments that can be made one way or another. The others will to some extent come down to personal taste. How else do you define one song being more epic than another?

That said, the reason why I like that Celine song is it was written by Jim Steinman who I happen to really like.

lordscarlet · 02-23-2007, 02:26 PM

Whoopi for the block, Tom!

ntndeacon · 02-23-2007, 02:27 PM

lordscarlet that is an inspired choice. and it fits so well in the epic category

vtbub · 02-23-2007, 02:29 PM

thinking

wade moore · 02-23-2007, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subby

Crap I was stronlgy considering Ziggy Stardust for trendsetter...

Trendsetter is the toughest category to really nail imo. By definition the pool of potentials is so slim, it's pretty good when you can block it in another category when you already have a trendsetter.

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Originally Posted by Warhammer

Good one LS.

Wade, that what much of it will boil down to in some categories. Trendsetters, Crossovers, and Anti-Establishment have some arguments that can be made one way or another. The others will to some extent come down to personal taste. How else do you define one song being more epic than another?

That said, the reason why I like that Celine song is it was written by Jim Steinman who I happen to really like.

I agree with you for how you should really analyze it. I just know FOFC and know that some people won't bother to look at it like that like they should and just say "GNR RULEZ!" or something

... not everyone, but a certain portion...

The nature of the beast and part of what makes it fun

Karlifornia · 02-23-2007, 02:30 PM

I think Kiss' "Rock And Roll All Night" could have fit in solidly as a party song, but it does the trick in the arena category.

As far as Space Oddity Goes, I'm torn. It does have some epic qualities to it, I love the song, and I love David Bowie, but..I dunno.

vtbub · 02-23-2007, 02:41 PM

I must admit that big hair rock isn't my forte, but in thinking of an Arena song, the energy on the floor must have been prety incredible when this was played, plus it has an infectous quality even if you can't understand the words.

Mariano Rivera's Theme:

Arena- Enter Sandman-Metallica 6.4

Maple Leafs · 02-23-2007, 02:43 PM

Enter Sandman in round six is the Tom Brady of this draft.

Subby · 02-23-2007, 02:45 PM

unreal it fell this far

Oilers9911 · 02-23-2007, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlifornia

I think Kiss' "Rock And Roll All Night" could have fit in solidly as a party song, but it does the trick in the arena category.

You're right, I struggled with that too but I found I had more party choices than I did arena song choices.

ntndeacon · 02-23-2007, 02:45 PM

I'm up?

vtbub · 02-23-2007, 02:46 PM

lordscarlet · 02-23-2007, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Enter Sandman in round six is the Tom Brady of this draft.

I don't think so at all. First, I think a number of the Arena Rockers picked are certainly above it. And while I love Metallica, and in particular "Enter Sandman", I don't know that that is the top pick for Metallica, not even necessarily the top for Arena Rocker.

lordscarlet · 02-23-2007, 02:52 PM

I do think getting Metallica anywhere is a great pick, though, much less in the sixth round. I'm very surprised it was so far behind GNR.

ntndeacon · 02-23-2007, 02:53 PM

Someone said how they thought of my 2nd round pick as a great arena song. I have always viewed it as more an epic, when i think of an arena song, the first thought in my head is inevitably the same each time.

Classic -
Epic - 2.5 - Another Brick in the Wall — Pink Floyd
Arena - 6.5-Do You Feel Like We Do--Peter Frampton
Trendsetter - 1.6 - Good Vibrations - Beach Boys
Love Song -
One-Hit Wonder -
Party -
Crossover - 4.5-I Can't Stop Loving You--Ray Charles
Cover - 5.6 - Proud Mary--Ike and Tina Turner
Anti-Establishment -3.6-London Calling--The Clash

Maple Leafs · 02-23-2007, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

I don't know anything about fucking awesome music

OK.

Subby · 02-23-2007, 02:55 PM

strong strong strong arena choice

NoMyths · 02-23-2007, 02:56 PM

haha ML

FRAMPTON COMES ALIVE!!!

NoMyths · 02-23-2007, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subby

strong strong strong arena choice

if you're supergay

KevinNU7 · 02-23-2007, 02:57 PM

WTF? I need to goggle this one

Surtt · 02-23-2007, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

I know, I don't see him so I'll pick and hopefully he's nothing of the other.

Classic -
Epic -
Arena - Born in the U.S.A.- Bruce Springsteen
Trendsetter -
Love Song -
One-Hit Wonder -
Party -
Crossover -
Cover -
Anti-Establishment -

If I was playing Born to run would have been my first round pick. I am amazed The Boss made it to the end of the 3rd round.

Maple Leafs · 02-23-2007, 02:58 PM

OK, so I was going take Bowie's Heroes here as my love song. I've had in pencilled in for like three rounds. But noooo.... lordscarlet had to go and ruin it. Way to go, lord. Thanks for being selfish. Prick.

Luckily for me, now that My Heart Will Go On is off the board I can make this pick without worrying about being the biggest wuss of the draft.

Classic -
Epic - 5.5 - Thriller - Michael Jackson
Arena - 1.7 - Welcome to the Jungle - Guns N' Roses
Trendsetter - 2.4 - Heartbreak Hotel - Elvis Presley
Love Song - 6.6 Unchained Melody - The Righteous Brothers
One-Hit Wonder -
Party - 4.6 - 1999 - Prince
Crossover - 3.5 - Ring of Fire - Johnny Cash
Cover -
Anti-Establishment -

Lathum · 02-23-2007, 02:58 PM

I love metallica and condidered sandman but IMO that album began the downfall of what was at the time for me the greatest band in the world.

02-23-2007, 02:03 PM	#664
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I actually like Celine Dion. I don't like that particular song, though. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-23-2007, 02:10 PM	#667
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Bucc's pick: 2.2 - Classic - Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones Epic - 3.9 - Born in the U.S.A.- Bruce Springsteen - Arena 6.2 - Johnny B Goode - Chuck Berry - Trendsetter 4.2 - Imagine - John Lennon - Love Song 5.9 - Baby Got Back - Sir Mix-a-Lot - One-hit wonder Party - Crossover - Cover - 1.9 Anti-Establishment - Fight the Power - Public Enemy __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

02-23-2007, 02:20 PM	#672
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	I am pretty sure Bucc was at Chuck Berry's bar mitzvah...just some added flavor there. __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

02-23-2007, 02:20 PM	#673
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	lordscarlet is on the clock. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

02-23-2007, 02:21 PM	#674
lordscarlet Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Washington, DC	Ground control to Major Tom Ground control to Major Tom It's time for lordscarlet's Epic Song This is my biggest gamble yet. I think it's a solid choice, but I'm not sure how everyone else is going to feel about it. Everyone has pretty much diverged from ML's original "Epic" definition to what I feel is more appropriate. A sprawling, involved, lyrical song. With the third pick of the sixth round, I choose "Space Oddity" by David Bowie. Classic - Epic - "Space Oddity", David Bowie Arena - 5.8 - "You Shook Me All Night Long", AC/DC Trendsetter - 2.3 - "Rapper's Delight", The Sugarhill Gang Love Song - One-Hit Wonder - Party - 4.3 - "(You Gotta) Fight for Your Right (to Party)", Beastie Boys Crossover - 1.8 - "Walk This Way", Run-D.M.C. feat. Aerosmith Cover -Anti-Establishment - 3.8 - "Killing in the Name", Rage Against the Machine __________________ Sixteen Colors ANSI/ASCII Art Archive "...the better half of the Moores..." -cthomer5000

02-23-2007, 01:43 PM	#651
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	Uh... Wow...

02-23-2007, 01:46 PM	#652
Oilers9911 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	With the 1st pick of the 6th round I select.... Arena - Rock and Roll All Night - Kiss Classic - 1.10 Hotel California - The Eagles Epic - 2.1 American Pie - Don McLean Arena - Arena - Rock and Roll All Night - Kiss Trendsetter - Love Song - 5.10 - My Heart Will Go On (Theme from Titanic) - Celine Dion One-Hit Wonder - 3.10 Macarena - Los Del Rio Party - Crossover - Cover - Anti-Establishment - 4.1 We're Not Gonna Take It - Twisted Sister

02-23-2007, 01:50 PM	#657
Oilers9911 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	And why is that? Sure its a horrible song but as horrible love songs go it was incredibly popular and you still hear it.

02-23-2007, 02:19 PM	#670
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	All Coming Back To Me Now is a better Celine song.

02-23-2007, 02:22 PM	#675
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	Bucc has me scratching my head. Good song but trendsetter?

02-23-2007, 02:24 PM	#676
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Well, that certainly screws me over for this round. Thanks, ass. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

02-23-2007, 02:24 PM	#677
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	Crap I was stronlgy considering Ziggy Stardust for trendsetter... __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

02-23-2007, 02:26 PM	#678
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	Good one LS. Wade, that what much of it will boil down to in some categories. Trendsetters, Crossovers, and Anti-Establishment have some arguments that can be made one way or another. The others will to some extent come down to personal taste. How else do you define one song being more epic than another? That said, the reason why I like that Celine song is it was written by Jim Steinman who I happen to really like.

02-23-2007, 02:26 PM	#679
lordscarlet Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Washington, DC	Whoopi for the block, Tom! __________________ Sixteen Colors ANSI/ASCII Art Archive "...the better half of the Moores..." -cthomer5000

02-23-2007, 02:27 PM	#680
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	lordscarlet that is an inspired choice. and it fits so well in the epic category

02-23-2007, 02:29 PM	#681
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	thinking __________________

02-23-2007, 02:30 PM	#683
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	I think Kiss' "Rock And Roll All Night" could have fit in solidly as a party song, but it does the trick in the arena category. As far as Space Oddity Goes, I'm torn. It does have some epic qualities to it, I love the song, and I love David Bowie, but..I dunno. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

02-23-2007, 02:41 PM	#684
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	I must admit that big hair rock isn't my forte, but in thinking of an Arena song, the energy on the floor must have been prety incredible when this was played, plus it has an infectous quality even if you can't understand the words. Mariano Rivera's Theme: Arena- Enter Sandman-Metallica 6.4 __________________

02-23-2007, 02:43 PM	#685
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Enter Sandman in round six is the Tom Brady of this draft. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

02-23-2007, 02:45 PM	#686
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	unreal it fell this far __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

02-23-2007, 02:45 PM	#688
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I'm up?

02-23-2007, 02:46 PM	#689
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	yep __________________

02-23-2007, 02:52 PM	#691
lordscarlet Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Washington, DC	I do think getting Metallica anywhere is a great pick, though, much less in the sixth round. I'm very surprised it was so far behind GNR. __________________ Sixteen Colors ANSI/ASCII Art Archive "...the better half of the Moores..." -cthomer5000

02-23-2007, 02:53 PM	#692
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Someone said how they thought of my 2nd round pick as a great arena song. I have always viewed it as more an epic, when i think of an arena song, the first thought in my head is inevitably the same each time. Classic - Epic - 2.5 - Another Brick in the Wall — Pink Floyd Arena - 6.5-Do You Feel Like We Do--Peter Frampton Trendsetter - 1.6 - Good Vibrations - Beach Boys Love Song - One-Hit Wonder - Party - Crossover - 4.5-I Can't Stop Loving You--Ray Charles Cover - 5.6 - Proud Mary--Ike and Tina Turner Anti-Establishment -3.6-London Calling--The Clash

02-23-2007, 02:55 PM	#694
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	strong strong strong arena choice __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

02-23-2007, 02:56 PM	#695
NoMyths Poet in Residence Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charleston, SC	haha ML FRAMPTON COMES ALIVE!!!

02-23-2007, 02:57 PM	#697
KevinNU7 College Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Beantown	WTF? I need to goggle this one __________________ Boston Bashers - III.14 - (8347)

02-23-2007, 02:58 PM	#699
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	OK, so I was going take Bowie's Heroes here as my love song. I've had in pencilled in for like three rounds. But noooo.... lordscarlet had to go and ruin it. Way to go, lord. Thanks for being selfish. Prick. Luckily for me, now that My Heart Will Go On is off the board I can make this pick without worrying about being the biggest wuss of the draft. Classic - Epic - 5.5 - Thriller - Michael Jackson Arena - 1.7 - Welcome to the Jungle - Guns N' Roses Trendsetter - 2.4 - Heartbreak Hotel - Elvis Presley Love Song - 6.6 Unchained Melody - The Righteous Brothers One-Hit Wonder - Party - 4.6 - 1999 - Prince Crossover - 3.5 - Ring of Fire - Johnny Cash Cover - Anti-Establishment - __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

02-23-2007, 02:58 PM	#700
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I love metallica and condidered sandman but IMO that album began the downfall of what was at the time for me the greatest band in the world.

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