Werewolf XXI - Werewolf goes to Hollywood - Game Over!! Death Eaters win!! - Page 14

st.cronin · 01-10-2006, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Coder

Anti-Disapparation Charm sounds like something preventing people to apparate (teleport) to his location.. which would help him protect himself and Neon (if he would be at the same location as Neon that is)

and Im still going to bed.. it's 1:30 AM dammit

So do the death-eaters apparate to their victim's destination? Is this the sort of thing that would naturally fit into the game? How do you like the sound of his story, is what I'm asking?

Coder · 01-10-2006, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

So do the death-eaters apparate to their victim's destination? Is this the sort of thing that would naturally fit into the game? How do you like the sound of his story, is what I'm asking?

I didn't occur to me how they would get to someone to kill him until I read about Sndvls charm.. then it hit me that the most likely way to "infiltrate" a wizard's house without raising an alarm would be to apparate into it.. hence, the anti-disapparation charm would be a means of protecting oneself (or the house you're at).

Coffee Warlord · 01-10-2006, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

So do the death-eaters apparate to their victim's destination? Is this the sort of thing that would naturally fit into the game? How do you like the sound of his story, is what I'm asking?

Here's the kicker though.

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Originally Posted by The opening post of the game, where Saldana dies

As is his usual habit, goblet after goblet of mulled mead is consumed by your Ministry Advisor, and shortly after he finishes explaining that thanks to the charm he cast over the town this afternoon, no one can apparate or disapparate within the village borders any longer, he changes the subject.

Desnudo · 01-10-2006, 06:44 PM

VOTE COFFEE WARLORD

SnDvls may be making a high risk gambit here, but we'll find out one way or the other. I'll put my money on a person whose actions appear highly suspicious to me. I believe Coffee and King are up to no good.

Coder · 01-10-2006, 06:45 PM

Hmm.. I just looked it up..

I might have things confused.. Anti-disapparation means BINDING someone, PREVENTING them to apparate....

Coder · 01-10-2006, 06:47 PM

In the fifth book (Order of the Phoenix)

page 817, Chapter 36

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..."you will find several escaped Death Eaters contrained in the Death Chamber, bound by an Anti-Disapparation Jinx..."

st.cronin · 01-10-2006, 06:48 PM

Well, that clears things up. Not.

SnDvls, what do you make of Coder's posts?

Coder · 01-10-2006, 06:51 PM

They constantly talk about the anti-disapparation jinx as a defensive spell though.. that's all I can tell at the moment.. I'm doing some research.. they use it in combination with shieldingspells... could be that it works the way I thought as well.

path12 · 01-10-2006, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

i would hate to potentialy waste a scan..

Agreed. But I'd also hate to potentially waste someone who could be of use to us.

Coder · 01-10-2006, 06:53 PM

GOT IT

(Anti-Disapparation Charm)

Pronunciation: Unknown
Description: Used to prevent Disapparation in an area for a time. Presumably can be used to prevent an enemy from entering a defended area, or used to trap an enemy in an area.
Seen/Mentioned: Used by Albus Dumbledore in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix during the Death Eater attack on the Department of Mysteries.

Sndvls is legit

st.cronin · 01-10-2006, 06:54 PM

UNVOTE SNDVLS

I only have about another 30 minutes to think about this, then I may not be back until after the deadline.

path12 · 01-10-2006, 06:57 PM

UNVOTE PASSACAGLIA

Coder · 01-10-2006, 07:00 PM

The only reason I feel he's legit is because he seems to have no real HP-knowledge, thus he wouldn't make up having the item. Had he been a confessed HP-reader he could have made up having the charm and tried to trick us all.

We've got nothing to lose giving Sndvls the benefit of the doubt for one night if it can save Neon, so therefore Coffee's relentless attempts at lynching Sndvls is only making himself look more suspicous in my mind.

st.cronin · 01-10-2006, 07:00 PM

I'm still confuzzled about one thing, though ... if Saldana made 'apparating' impossible, what use would that particular charm be?

Coder · 01-10-2006, 07:02 PM

It's a defense spell as well, binding opponents. That's the only thing I can think of.

or, according to the wiki-entry above, can be used to prevent an enemy of entering a defended area.

st.cronin · 01-10-2006, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Coder

The only reason I feel he's legit is because he seems to have no real HP-knowledge, thus he wouldn't make up having the item. Had he been a confessed HP-reader he could have made up having the charm and tried to trick us all.

We've got nothing to lose giving Sndvls the benefit of the doubt for one night if it can save Neon, so therefore Coffee's relentless attempts at lynching Sndvls is only making himself look more suspicous in my mind.

He could very well have been fed the idea by another death-eater. After thinking about it, I like him as a death-eater even more now.

VOTE SNDVLS

Sorry if you're a wizard, Sun.

Coffee Warlord · 01-10-2006, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Coder

We've got nothing to lose giving Sndvls the benefit of the doubt for one night if it can save Neon, so therefore Coffee's relentless attempts at lynching Sndvls is only making himself look more suspicous in my mind.

...relentless? Hookay.

Poli · 01-10-2006, 07:26 PM

Stupid computer. Stupid 25 sailors checking in from bootcamp tonight...when stuff like the computer and card programmer are broken. Gah.

Now I'm going to miss House as well.

Anyway, anyone have a vote tally?

Alan T · 01-10-2006, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Stupid computer. Stupid 25 sailors checking in from bootcamp tonight...when stuff like the computer and card programmer are broken. Gah.

Now I'm going to miss House as well.

Anyway, anyone have a vote tally?

Way I have it currently its sndvls 8, wvufan 4, coffee warlord 3

Poli · 01-10-2006, 07:28 PM

UNVOTE COFFEE WARLORD (reason for the vote: revenge from yesterday, barkeep)

VOTE WVUFAN

I don't know about Harry Potter, so the story doesn't make sense to me, but from what I read I believe him.

Poli · 01-10-2006, 07:29 PM

Doh! About sndvls obviously.

Poli · 01-10-2006, 07:30 PM

Triple dola: Looks like Blade is lurking. Bummer man. Thanks for helping me.

Schmidty · 01-10-2006, 07:34 PM

VOTE SNDVLS

st.cronin · 01-10-2006, 07:35 PM

Ok, I'm out for a while.

UNVOTE SNDVLS

st.cronin · 01-10-2006, 07:35 PM

VOTE WVU FAN

Too much of a bandwagon at the moment for my liking ... best of luck gentlemen.

Grammaticus · 01-10-2006, 07:44 PM

Anybody have a vote count?

SnDvl if anyone has the ability to get you off the hook, why should they use that ability? How can we be sure you are not just a DE leaving Neon for a round to cover yourself?

WVU and Coffee if the vote got shifted to you, why would that be bad? Sun has offerred something to work with, neither of you have.

Alan T · 01-10-2006, 07:46 PM

Sndvls 8
wvufan 6 is what I have currently

Raiders Army · 01-10-2006, 07:47 PM

WVU, sorry but I'm going to bed. It was either you or Pass that I would vote for since there wasn't much from you. From what I can tell, there's no reason I shouldn't vote for you.

Poli · 01-10-2006, 07:47 PM

Looks like 8 sndvls 6 wvu 2 cw

Unofficial, just going off the tally a few posts above and the few changes since.

Gramm, I think if Neon dies we can nail sndvls for it. Quite honestly, I haven't read all the posts, just the ones sndvls has been defending himself.

Why is it everyone is on him?

Grammaticus · 01-10-2006, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Sndvls 8
wvufan 6 is what I have currently

I'm thinking a tie would not hurt right now to get someone talking. I'm already sitting on WVU. If you just leave the vote on Sndvl, we are not going to get much else out of today. At least not until later.

Coffee Warlord · 01-10-2006, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

WVU and Coffee if the vote got shifted to you, why would that be bad? Sun has offerred something to work with, neither of you have.

Well, *I* know I'm a villager.

But I, as I stated before, have no special role, and unless I am mistaken, have no ability to gain any special role. I'm as vanilla as they come, which is why I'm playing a lot looser than I normally do. We don't lose much of anything if I bite it, so I'm going to be the loudmouth and cast my suspicions around.

Frankly, at this point, I want to see SnDvls lynched. Settle it right now. If he's a villager, we look at who pushed for him (and I'm fully aware that I'm included on that, but there have been others today who have pushed on him as well). If he's not, well, one more down.

Poli · 01-10-2006, 07:51 PM

CW, what were the reasons, anyway? I missed those.

Grammaticus · 01-10-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Looks like 8 sndvls 6 wvu 2 cw

Unofficial, just going off the tally a few posts above and the few changes since.

Gramm, I think if Neon dies we can nail sndvls for it. Quite honestly, I haven't read all the posts, just the ones sndvls has been defending himself.

Why is it everyone is on him?

St. Cronin just laid a vote on him for a somewhat random reason of being in the pile on. Then of course another pile on occurred, which does not help any more than it did yesterday.

Cronin brought up the point of the DEs skipping Neon tonight and when Neon scans Sndvl, Sun could be using a skill to mask himself, thus looking clean for the rest of the game.

Blade6119 · 01-10-2006, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Triple dola: Looks like Blade is lurking. Bummer man. Thanks for helping me.

I figured it was coming, so i tried to help ya as best i could...sorry i couldnt put you in better shape today or in the future. Hoops and i are watching, so dont let us down!

dubb93 · 01-10-2006, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

I'm thinking a tie would not hurt right now to get someone talking. I'm already sitting on WVU. If you just leave the vote on Sndvl, we are not going to get much else out of today. At least not until later.

Can do, these guys have both been suspect in my book...

UNVOTE SNDVLS

VOTE WVUFan

For purposes of a tie.

Coffee Warlord · 01-10-2006, 07:53 PM

Not all that great. Backtrack. I started out on dubb because of the Pile On Theory. Someone else, st.cronin if I remember, did much the same on SnDvls. Dubb, while obviously not in the clear, parried my questions and handled the response pretty well. SnDvls has been very defensive, and I question his role reveal, considering, in my mind, it contradicts the opening post of the game (note the quote I posted up above).

That's...what I've got. Not much, but there's still not a lot to work with.

dubb93 · 01-10-2006, 07:54 PM

I got your back with the tie blade

Alan T · 01-10-2006, 07:54 PM

First person to vote for Sndvls was St.cronin originally who Neon cleared, sooo.. then alot of people just hopped on the bandwagon. Sndvls was on my short list of people who I thought had curious voting the day before, but I had a list of 6-7 people. I didnt vote for him because of the huge bandwagon. I think in the end I agree that having a tie might not be bad to clear another villager possibly with a tie break. However I still stated before why i dont think its a bad thing to give sndvls one more day.

At this point, we have very little information on most people.

Grammaticus · 01-10-2006, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Not all that great. Backtrack. I started out on dubb because of the Pile On Theory. Someone else, st.cronin if I remember, did much the same on SnDvls. Dubb, while obviously not in the clear, parried my questions and handled the response pretty well. SnDvls has been very defensive, and I question his role reveal, considering, in my mind, it contradicts the opening post of the game (note the quote I posted up above).

That's...what I've got. Not much, but there's still not a lot to work with.

I think the other effect of the item which is supposed to stop DEs from entering a defended area may make the item legitimate. Not sure though. I'm not saying Sun is a DE or not, it just would help to not hang him so soon when there is more to learn. If we tie WVU and Sun, then WVU will give us some reasons why he should not get lynched. Then of course there are tie breakers, which could very well clear another villager.

dubb93 · 01-10-2006, 07:57 PM

I will say this. In this game we have so many people, it might be best to trust people early we normally wouldn't. If Sun had just sat there my vote would have sat on him as well. I said I had a feeling he was being defensive b/c he had a big role. I think in this situation the risk outweights the reward, and I'd hate for Sun to be legit and lose the tie break.

Grammaticus · 01-10-2006, 07:58 PM

dola, and basically we are sitting on a tie now, right? 8 up between Sun and WVU.

dubb93 · 01-10-2006, 07:59 PM

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Any ties will be broken with the Wizard that received their last vote first being the one to be executed, unless some other method of breaking the tie occurs.

.

Grammaticus · 01-10-2006, 07:59 PM

Lets wait for WVU to come back and give us his take.

Alan T · 01-10-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

dola, and basically we are sitting on a tie now, right? 8 up between Sun and WVU.

by my count, yes

Grammaticus · 01-10-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

.

Unless some other method of tie breaking occurs....I'm betting there is more than one method.

dubb93 · 01-10-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Unless some other method of tie breaking occurs....I'm betting there is more than one method.

I agree, Blade was pretty confident in it.

Grammaticus · 01-10-2006, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

I agree, Blade was pretty confident in it.

Me too.

RPI-Fan · 01-10-2006, 08:03 PM

I'm going to admit, I haven't been able to sort today's events out for two reasons:

1) Don't want to use the internet at all while at work
2) Haven't read the HP books or seen the movies, etc.

Can someone put, INTO WEREWOLF TERMS, the events that have transpired today?

Thanks!
~rpi-fan

dubb93 · 01-10-2006, 08:04 PM

Gramm, without saying too much I think its fair to say you hinted your way to my trust list somewhere on this page.

SnDvls · 01-10-2006, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

VOTE WVU FAN

Too much of a bandwagon at the moment for my liking ... best of luck gentlemen.

thank you St. C you won't be disappointed in your decision

01-10-2006, 06:45 PM	#655
Coder College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden	Hmm.. I just looked it up.. I might have things confused.. Anti-disapparation means BINDING someone, PREVENTING them to apparate.... __________________ IFL - Vermont Mountaineers ~ I am an idiot, walking a tight rope of fortunate things ~

01-10-2006, 06:48 PM	#657
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Well, that clears things up. Not. SnDvls, what do you make of Coder's posts? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

01-10-2006, 06:51 PM	#658
Coder College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden	They constantly talk about the anti-disapparation jinx as a defensive spell though.. that's all I can tell at the moment.. I'm doing some research.. they use it in combination with shieldingspells... could be that it works the way I thought as well. __________________ IFL - Vermont Mountaineers ~ I am an idiot, walking a tight rope of fortunate things ~

01-10-2006, 06:53 PM	#660
Coder College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden	GOT IT (Anti-Disapparation Charm) Pronunciation: Unknown Description: Used to prevent Disapparation in an area for a time. Presumably can be used to prevent an enemy from entering a defended area, or used to trap an enemy in an area. Seen/Mentioned: Used by Albus Dumbledore in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix during the Death Eater attack on the Department of Mysteries. Sndvls is legit __________________ IFL - Vermont Mountaineers ~ I am an idiot, walking a tight rope of fortunate things ~

01-10-2006, 06:54 PM	#661
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	UNVOTE SNDVLS I only have about another 30 minutes to think about this, then I may not be back until after the deadline. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

01-10-2006, 06:44 PM	#654
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	VOTE COFFEE WARLORD SnDvls may be making a high risk gambit here, but we'll find out one way or the other. I'll put my money on a person whose actions appear highly suspicious to me. I believe Coffee and King are up to no good.

01-10-2006, 06:57 PM	#662
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	UNVOTE PASSACAGLIA __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

01-10-2006, 07:00 PM	#663
Coder College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden	The only reason I feel he's legit is because he seems to have no real HP-knowledge, thus he wouldn't make up having the item. Had he been a confessed HP-reader he could have made up having the charm and tried to trick us all. We've got nothing to lose giving Sndvls the benefit of the doubt for one night if it can save Neon, so therefore Coffee's relentless attempts at lynching Sndvls is only making himself look more suspicous in my mind. __________________ IFL - Vermont Mountaineers ~ I am an idiot, walking a tight rope of fortunate things ~

01-10-2006, 07:00 PM	#664
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I'm still confuzzled about one thing, though ... if Saldana made 'apparating' impossible, what use would that particular charm be? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

01-10-2006, 07:02 PM	#665
Coder College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden	It's a defense spell as well, binding opponents. That's the only thing I can think of. or, according to the wiki-entry above, can be used to prevent an enemy of entering a defended area. __________________ IFL - Vermont Mountaineers ~ I am an idiot, walking a tight rope of fortunate things ~ Last edited by Coder : 01-10-2006 at 07:04 PM.

01-10-2006, 07:26 PM	#668
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Stupid computer. Stupid 25 sailors checking in from bootcamp tonight...when stuff like the computer and card programmer are broken. Gah. Now I'm going to miss House as well. Anyway, anyone have a vote tally? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-10-2006, 07:28 PM	#670
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	UNVOTE COFFEE WARLORD (reason for the vote: revenge from yesterday, barkeep) VOTE WVUFAN I don't know about Harry Potter, so the story doesn't make sense to me, but from what I read I believe him. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-10-2006, 07:29 PM	#671
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Doh! About sndvls obviously. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-10-2006, 07:30 PM	#672
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Triple dola: Looks like Blade is lurking. Bummer man. Thanks for helping me. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-10-2006, 07:34 PM	#673
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	VOTE SNDVLS __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

01-10-2006, 07:35 PM	#674
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Ok, I'm out for a while. UNVOTE SNDVLS __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

01-10-2006, 07:35 PM	#675
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	VOTE WVU FAN Too much of a bandwagon at the moment for my liking ... best of luck gentlemen. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

01-10-2006, 07:44 PM	#676
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Anybody have a vote count? SnDvl if anyone has the ability to get you off the hook, why should they use that ability? How can we be sure you are not just a DE leaving Neon for a round to cover yourself? WVU and Coffee if the vote got shifted to you, why would that be bad? Sun has offerred something to work with, neither of you have.

01-10-2006, 07:46 PM	#677
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Sndvls 8 wvufan 6 is what I have currently

01-10-2006, 07:47 PM	#678
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	WVU, sorry but I'm going to bed. It was either you or Pass that I would vote for since there wasn't much from you. From what I can tell, there's no reason I shouldn't vote for you.

01-10-2006, 07:47 PM	#679
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Looks like 8 sndvls 6 wvu 2 cw Unofficial, just going off the tally a few posts above and the few changes since. Gramm, I think if Neon dies we can nail sndvls for it. Quite honestly, I haven't read all the posts, just the ones sndvls has been defending himself. Why is it everyone is on him? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-10-2006, 07:51 PM	#682
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	CW, what were the reasons, anyway? I missed those. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-10-2006, 07:53 PM	#686
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Not all that great. Backtrack. I started out on dubb because of the Pile On Theory. Someone else, st.cronin if I remember, did much the same on SnDvls. Dubb, while obviously not in the clear, parried my questions and handled the response pretty well. SnDvls has been very defensive, and I question his role reveal, considering, in my mind, it contradicts the opening post of the game (note the quote I posted up above). That's...what I've got. Not much, but there's still not a lot to work with.

01-10-2006, 07:54 PM	#688
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	First person to vote for Sndvls was St.cronin originally who Neon cleared, sooo.. then alot of people just hopped on the bandwagon. Sndvls was on my short list of people who I thought had curious voting the day before, but I had a list of 6-7 people. I didnt vote for him because of the huge bandwagon. I think in the end I agree that having a tie might not be bad to clear another villager possibly with a tie break. However I still stated before why i dont think its a bad thing to give sndvls one more day. At this point, we have very little information on most people.

01-10-2006, 07:58 PM	#691
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	dola, and basically we are sitting on a tie now, right? 8 up between Sun and WVU.

01-10-2006, 07:59 PM	#693
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Lets wait for WVU to come back and give us his take.

01-10-2006, 08:03 PM	#698
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	I'm going to admit, I haven't been able to sort today's events out for two reasons: 1) Don't want to use the internet at all while at work 2) Haven't read the HP books or seen the movies, etc. Can someone put, INTO WEREWOLF TERMS, the events that have transpired today? Thanks! ~rpi-fan __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

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