Historical Nation Draft - Page 14

larrymcg421 · 05-14-2009, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaril

Well not to start a holy war and will chnage it but I could spend a whole day arguing that N.Ireland was once and should be again considered Irish land and not British but.

Being Irish myself I certainly agree with this, but I'm just trying to consistently apply the rules.

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......so he may not have a major connection but he sure as hell has a connection for sure. Changed.

Right, but the way I've gone over his history, he was born in Northern Ireland and spent his entire life there, working on behalf of Northern Ireland. Since we're working with modern nations, I don't see any record that he ever actually lived in the modern Ireland, much less did anything on behalf of it. Am I wrong?

larrymcg421 · 05-14-2009, 05:43 PM

Again, I'm flexible on this. I don't want to be a dictator. If most of the participants feel my reasoning is wrong here, I'd be willing to let the pick stand.

larrymcg421 · 05-14-2009, 05:51 PM

And I'm sure another ruling I made in response to a PM is going to be pretty controversial.

Danny · 05-14-2009, 05:52 PM

Someone drafted God

Danny · 05-14-2009, 05:52 PM

Nation Heaven

Coffee Warlord · 05-14-2009, 07:51 PM

...Who's up?

Izulde · 05-14-2009, 07:56 PM

I think we're waiting for a switch on the Diplomat pick first?

larrymcg421 · 05-14-2009, 07:58 PM

The switch was already made to Pablo Picasso.

It's ntndeacon's turn.

Izulde · 05-14-2009, 08:04 PM

No it's not. He picked the Brazilian air chief dude.

DaddyTorgo · 05-14-2009, 08:07 PM

it's not my turn is it?

larrymcg421 · 05-14-2009, 08:08 PM

Totally missed that. Then it's DT's turn.

DaddyTorgo · 05-14-2009, 08:08 PM

totally missed that...lol

Galaril · 05-14-2009, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Being Irish myself I certainly agree with this, but I'm just trying to consistently apply the rules.

Right, but the way I've gone over his history, he was born in Northern Ireland and spent his entire life there, working on behalf of Northern Ireland. Since we're working with modern nations, I don't see any record that he ever actually lived in the modern Ireland, much less did anything on behalf of it. Am I wrong?

No you are not off base. My post was more of qualifing personal opinion of mine outside of thegame. Game on and thanks.

Abe Sargent · 05-14-2009, 08:14 PM

Remember folks, it goes just a bit faster if you pm the next person in line. I pm BK all the time!

Noop · 05-14-2009, 08:22 PM

I was just looking through who has been drafted and Izulde why Jim Brown?

DaddyTorgo · 05-14-2009, 08:27 PM

gah i don't even know what category i want to pick in...grrr

Coffee Warlord · 05-14-2009, 08:28 PM

5 seconds and then you are auto-picked Pauly Shore.

DaddyTorgo · 05-14-2009, 08:28 PM

this is 6.8 right?

Coffee Warlord · 05-14-2009, 08:29 PM

DaddyTorgo · 05-14-2009, 08:30 PM

oh right

DaddyTorgo · 05-14-2009, 08:33 PM

6.5 Geographical Location - Fertile Crescent, Iraq, Pre-20th Century

My people will never be hungry. Plus it's the cradle of civilization...hard to beat that for importance in a place.

Coffee Warlord · 05-14-2009, 08:36 PM

6.6 - Anthony Fokker, Air Chief, Netherlands, 20th Century

The Red Baron had his kills, but they were in Anthony Fokker's planes. Developer of many of the German planes during WW1, including the famous triplane. He and his company developed the interrupter gear, which allowed machine guns to fire through propellors without the risk of shooting the prop off, a design that was used all the way till jets became the norm.

DaddyTorgo · 05-14-2009, 08:36 PM

plus he has a cool name CW

Barkeep49 · 05-14-2009, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

6.5 Geographical Location - Fertile Crescent, Pre-20th Century

My people will never be hungry. Plus it's the cradle of civilization...hard to beat that for importance in a place.

Don't you need to pick a country?

Barkeep49 · 05-14-2009, 08:38 PM

Don't get me wrong, a solid pick, but it is a Nation draft...

DaddyTorgo · 05-14-2009, 08:41 PM

*shrug* I thought that might be a difficulty with that pick - call it Iraq I suppose, as that's where the largest and oldest cities were

Barkeep49 · 05-14-2009, 08:43 PM

I think that's the nation which makes the most sense.

DaddyTorgo · 05-14-2009, 08:56 PM

MrDNA · 05-14-2009, 09:04 PM

Fertile crescent FTW! Wonderful pick.

DaddyTorgo · 05-14-2009, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDNA

Fertile crescent FTW! Wonderful pick.

thanks!

I thought it might drop more, but frankly, I am convinced that I have enough backup picks in the other categories left that that was the best "value" pick left

lordscarlet · 05-14-2009, 09:10 PM

..removed because the issue was settled

DaddyTorgo · 05-14-2009, 09:11 PM

LS - we've accepted that and moved past it

Abe Sargent · 05-14-2009, 09:12 PM

Sometimes I give my two cents after an issue is resolved too

lordscarlet · 05-14-2009, 09:16 PM

sorry for the rant, everything was settled while I was typing it

DaddyTorgo · 05-14-2009, 09:17 PM

lol - i just want to avoid things derailing us and causing issues

Izulde · 05-14-2009, 11:51 PM

My turn?

Noop · 05-14-2009, 11:57 PM

I will pick in the morning.

Izulde · 05-15-2009, 12:07 AM

OH yeah, I got the PM. Duh.

Okay picking.

Izulde · 05-15-2009, 12:11 AM

6.7 Galileo Galilei - Scientist - Italy - Pre-20th Century

No matter what time period our nations are being constructed in, a knowledge and awareness of our universe will be essentially to furthering the aims of a country. Usher in Galileo, a master astronomer and physicist to lead our scientific corps and more importantly, he is one that will stand for the truth and not bow before those in authority who wish to silence his discoveries.

Noop · 05-15-2009, 06:31 AM

6.8 James Joyce - Artist- Ireland - Post-20th Century

Danny · 05-15-2009, 06:36 AM

There is no writer category, and if you meant artist, the country is already taken.

Noop · 05-15-2009, 06:48 AM

Changing it...

Barkeep49 · 05-15-2009, 06:49 AM

I'm here as well, so I should be able to knock my pick out shortly after noop's

Noop · 05-15-2009, 06:53 AM

Alright changed it.

Izulde · 05-15-2009, 06:57 AM

Nice choice.

Barkeep49 · 05-15-2009, 07:17 AM

I need a rules clarification before I can pick. Are we required to have 6 Pre-20th and 6 20th or 7 and 7? I am basically wondering if the Manmade and Natural categories count in this or not.

Noop · 05-15-2009, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I need a rules clarification before I can pick. Are we required to have 6 Pre-20th and 6 20th or 7 and 7? I am basically wondering if the Manmade and Natural categories count in this or not.

Yeah it's half and half I believe.... which sucks because there is not a lot in the 20th century compared to everything before it.

larrymcg421 · 05-15-2009, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I need a rules clarification before I can pick. Are we required to have 6 Pre-20th and 6 20th or 7 and 7? I am basically wondering if the Manmade and Natural categories count in this or not.

They do count, but I did note earlier that you have some flexibility with where to put those. It doesn't have to necessarily be when they were first created. If a mandmade structure was created in 1850, but is more relevant today, I'll allow the pick, but you'll have to make your case to the voters.

larrymcg421 · 05-15-2009, 07:57 AM

Working on updating first post right now.

Barkeep49 · 05-15-2009, 08:04 AM

Ok that changes things. Give me a minute for my pick.

05-14-2009, 05:43 PM	#652
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05-14-2009, 05:51 PM	#653
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	And I'm sure another ruling I made in response to a PM is going to be pretty controversial. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-14-2009, 07:56 PM	#657
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	I think we're waiting for a switch on the Diplomat pick first? __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

05-14-2009, 07:58 PM	#658
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	The switch was already made to Pablo Picasso. It's ntndeacon's turn. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-14-2009, 08:04 PM	#659
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	No it's not. He picked the Brazilian air chief dude. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

05-14-2009, 05:52 PM	#654
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Someone drafted God

05-14-2009, 05:52 PM	#655
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Nation Heaven

05-14-2009, 07:51 PM	#656
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	...Who's up?

05-14-2009, 08:07 PM	#660
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	it's not my turn is it? __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-14-2009, 08:08 PM	#661
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Totally missed that. Then it's DT's turn. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-14-2009, 08:08 PM	#662
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	totally missed that...lol __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-14-2009, 08:14 PM	#664
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Remember folks, it goes just a bit faster if you pm the next person in line. I pm BK all the time! __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-14-2009, 08:22 PM	#665
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	I was just looking through who has been drafted and Izulde why Jim Brown? __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

05-14-2009, 08:27 PM	#666
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	gah i don't even know what category i want to pick in...grrr __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-14-2009, 08:28 PM	#667
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	5 seconds and then you are auto-picked Pauly Shore.

05-14-2009, 08:28 PM	#668
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	this is 6.8 right? __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-14-2009, 08:29 PM	#669
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	6.5

05-14-2009, 08:30 PM	#670
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	oh right __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-14-2009, 08:33 PM	#671
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	6.5 Geographical Location - Fertile Crescent, Iraq, Pre-20th Century My people will never be hungry. Plus it's the cradle of civilization...hard to beat that for importance in a place. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9 Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 05-14-2009 at 08:41 PM. Reason: added: Iraq as the country

05-14-2009, 08:36 PM	#672
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	6.6 - Anthony Fokker, Air Chief, Netherlands, 20th Century The Red Baron had his kills, but they were in Anthony Fokker's planes. Developer of many of the German planes during WW1, including the famous triplane. He and his company developed the interrupter gear, which allowed machine guns to fire through propellors without the risk of shooting the prop off, a design that was used all the way till jets became the norm.

05-14-2009, 08:36 PM	#673
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	plus he has a cool name CW __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-14-2009, 08:38 PM	#675
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Don't get me wrong, a solid pick, but it is a Nation draft...

05-14-2009, 08:41 PM	#676
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	shrug I thought that might be a difficulty with that pick - call it Iraq I suppose, as that's where the largest and oldest cities were __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-14-2009, 08:43 PM	#677
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I think that's the nation which makes the most sense.

05-14-2009, 08:56 PM	#678
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	yeah __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-14-2009, 09:04 PM	#679
MrDNA High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	Fertile crescent FTW! Wonderful pick. __________________ Norfolk Flame (Shiba) Jacksonville Bulls (UFL) R.I.P. *Ayr Bravehearts (FOFL)*

05-14-2009, 09:10 PM	#681
lordscarlet Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Washington, DC	..removed because the issue was settled __________________ Sixteen Colors ANSI/ASCII Art Archive "...the better half of the Moores..." -cthomer5000 Last edited by lordscarlet : 05-14-2009 at 10:54 PM.

05-14-2009, 09:11 PM	#682
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	LS - we've accepted that and moved past it __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-14-2009, 09:12 PM	#683
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Sometimes I give my two cents after an issue is resolved too __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-14-2009, 09:16 PM	#684
lordscarlet Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Washington, DC	sorry for the rant, everything was settled while I was typing it __________________ Sixteen Colors ANSI/ASCII Art Archive "...the better half of the Moores..." -cthomer5000

05-14-2009, 09:17 PM	#685
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	lol - i just want to avoid things derailing us and causing issues __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-14-2009, 11:51 PM	#686
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	My turn? __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

05-14-2009, 11:57 PM	#687
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	I will pick in the morning. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

05-15-2009, 12:07 AM	#688
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	OH yeah, I got the PM. Duh. Okay picking. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

05-15-2009, 12:11 AM	#689
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	6.7 Galileo Galilei - Scientist - Italy - Pre-20th Century No matter what time period our nations are being constructed in, a knowledge and awareness of our universe will be essentially to furthering the aims of a country. Usher in Galileo, a master astronomer and physicist to lead our scientific corps and more importantly, he is one that will stand for the truth and not bow before those in authority who wish to silence his discoveries. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)