Werewolf XLVII City of Wonder (Game Over!)

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by path12

I don't want to nitpick, but what evidence has come up to clear you?

I'm asking as someone who leans toward you being good.

On night two I gave Ardent a leaf to make sure he wasn't killed in a revenge strike for being at the front of the offensive against Cronin.

He had not posted what he was given prior to me verifying it.

[Poli]

Going grocery shopping. I promise not to walk in to an OR during that time.

[Poli]

Trust list, in order:

1. Path
2. Alan
3. Render
4. goldeneagle
5. ntndeacon
6. swaggs
7. saldana
8. lathum

I need to take some time and review the post of the bottom four, particularly ntn and swaggs.

[Poli]

Looks a little suspicious early on (rereading his posts today)...but I still may change this again.

unvote lathum
Vote swaggs

[Poli]

Finally, my new buddy has arrived.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I just can't wait till my good friend Alan T gets in. I bet he gives me a big hug.

Hey, I'm a big enough man to admit when I was wrong. Like I said this morning, I can't imagine any possible scenerio where you would send that to me and then try to kill me all at the same night, so I'll take your word that you are what you said you were...


Get ready for it....

I was wrong



And I guess that also explains the item detector that I received last night too. I'm not sure if you saw what the other item I received last night was, but I'll assume you understand why I am not going to talk about it any right now. Excellent move by the way, I'll give you credit for it.

[Alan T]

Looks like I didn't really miss a ton while i was gone other than Ardent's open heart surgery. Seems a pretty quiet night tonight so far. I'm going to go back and count up what the current vote count. Seems close between a few people. No idea the exact vote right now though.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Hey, I'm a big enough man to admit when I was wrong. Like I said this morning, I can't imagine any possible scenerio where you would send that to me and then try to kill me all at the same night, so I'll take your word that you are what you said you were...


Get ready for it....

I was wrong



And I guess that also explains the item detector that I received last night too. I'm not sure if you saw what the other item I received last night was, but I'll assume you understand why I am not going to talk about it any right now. Excellent move by the way, I'll give you credit for it.

My thought process was that they wouldn't kill me, but they wouldn't hesitate to set me up. I sent the PM about 3 minutes before I hit the door. I figured I was a lock for "NOT" needing it.

[Alan T]

I got this for the current vote count:

(3) GE - swaggs (586), alant (601), path (621)
(2) render - lathum (583), saldana (649)
(2) swaggs - ntndeacon (607), Ardent (654)
(1) lathum - render (648)

No vote: Goldeneagle

Doesn't seem like a lot of movement tonight so far.

[Poli]

By the way, Alan, you're welcome.

[Poli]

Alan, how solid are you on GE?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Alan, how solid are you on GE?

I mainly voted GE due to trying to eliminate who wasnt the one who sent me the leaf last night. Now I know where it came from, it opens things up a bit more for me again. Out of the others with 2 votes right now, I dont think I would go for Render , but Swaggs I don't really have a good feel for.

How strong are you on Swaggs? What is the reasoning behind the Swaggs vote? I'm still trying to catch up on everyone's logic from their votes today and don't have a feel for him other than his missed vote and that we just havent really gotten much info from him this game. He hasnt seemed to have done much.

[Poli]

Swaggs...I don't have a good feel for him. I feel one or two of the people in my bottom 4 are playing us. We're down to 9 including me, I believe. I believe you, me, and path are on the right side.

GE, well, he doesn't seem to know how items work or the ramifications. That might be genuine. That's something I'd have to know as a wolf...I'd have to know how the items work. I find him convincing in that he doesn't seem to know.

Swaggs, not solid, but better than 1 vote just on lathum.

I could go lathum, ntn, or saldana.

[Alan T]

I don't see us moving to Saldana accomplishing much right now.. If you and I moved to Lathum though, that would put him into the lead. The only downside is he mentioned earlier that he isn't going to be around to defend himself.. I'm not too concerned about that though, as everyone has had all day to make their cases.

Hmm, Im a bit less trusting of GE than you are, but I feel a little better about Swaggs than you do I think based on the conversations I had with Swaggs this morning. he seemed openly honest about his current situation. I guess that could just be a decent cover though.

I'd probably do a switch to Lathum from GE, still undecided if I would switch to Swaggs. There really wasn't much against swaggs on the votes from you and ntn earlier to help convince me on him either.

[Alan T]

Sorry, I didn't comment on ntn there, I talked about him earlier though in the day. but same thing as Saldana, moving to him wouldn't accomplish anything other than a 3 way tie right now with ntn having the abilitiy to move his vote the way he wanted

[Alan T]

Eh, I keep talking myself out of things. I really don't see alot of difference between Ntn, Swaggs, Goldeneagle, Lathum, Saldana right now.

So yeah.. why not. lets see what happens.
Unvote Goldeneagle
Vote Swaggs

[Poli]

GE is in that 4 spot, so he's not a solid in my book. I'm a little inclined to move lathum up some, but not much.

[path12]

Swaggs came off this morning to me more as a villager than he had up to now. I seem to recall something about Saldana that made me feel better about him than Ardent does. Ntn and Lathum both sent me pardons last night, but that could easily be a wolf move trying to gain trust, especially since I'm not really much on the radar to be a lynch vote....I'm more concerned about a night attack, though I've got something again tonight that will help me there. And I made my case about GE earlier.

I'd be willing to go with any of the Swaggs, Lathum, GE trio if there's a reason to change.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I mainly voted GE due to trying to eliminate who wasnt the one who sent me the leaf last night. Now I know where it came from, it opens things up a bit more for me again. Out of the others with 2 votes right now, I dont think I would go for Render , but Swaggs I don't really have a good feel for.

How strong are you on Swaggs? What is the reasoning behind the Swaggs vote? I'm still trying to catch up on everyone's logic from their votes today and don't have a feel for him other than his missed vote and that we just havent really gotten much info from him this game. He hasnt seemed to have done much.

On Swaggs, and something else that damns him in my book. He claims to have used the psychic link on hoopsguy and a mystery person on night 2 (for day 3) However hoops had told us all the day before (post 202) that a mystery person had contacted him. He therefore would have LOST his psychic link. what that brings out is....Why did Swaggs try to contact someone that it was known did NOT have a psychic link.

[Poli]

It appears one of those 3 will be lynched, so you should be good. I think I'd rather see lathum or swaggs.

[RendeR]

Hrm...reading all this its hard to tell who's really solid and who's not. Seems like lathum is on most people's distrust list so I'll leave my vote there.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by path12

Swaggs came off this morning to me more as a villager than he had up to now. I seem to recall something about Saldana that made me feel better about him than Ardent does. Ntn and Lathum both sent me pardons last night, but that could easily be a wolf move trying to gain trust, especially since I'm not really much on the radar to be a lynch vote....I'm more concerned about a night attack, though I've got something again tonight that will help me there. And I made my case about GE earlier.

I'd be willing to go with any of the Swaggs, Lathum, GE trio if there's a reason to change.

It is just a bit curious as to why you'd receive the pardons.

[ntndeacon]

By the way if we keep a tie like it is we are good to go.

[ntndeacon]

I cant speak for Lathum, but I sent a pardon to path since he is who itrusted the most. Granted I did not thnik he was in a lot of danger, but better safe than sorry....and I had to send it somewhere ...(who I did not think was a wolf)

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

By the way if we keep a tie like it is we are good to go.

I don't think its a tie. I have this:


(3) swaggs - ntndeacon (607), Ardent (654), alan (666)
(2) GE - swaggs (586), path (621)
(2) render - lathum (583), saldana (649)
(1) lathum - render (648)

[GoldenEagle]

I guess I will go with the self-preservation vote...

VOTE RENDER

[ntndeacon]

I forgot Alans vote was off of GE

lol

[path12]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

I guess I will go with the self-preservation vote...

VOTE RENDER

Odd self-preservation vote.

UNVOTE GOLDEN EAGLE
VOTE SWAGGS

[Poli]

In at the deadline, eh GE?

[RendeR]

Why vote for me then? the more obvious choice is Swaggs, guarenteeing your living through the lynching at this point.

That sort of smack of protecting a fellow wolf. no?

Self preservation is the call of the day it seems:

UNVOTE LATHUM

VOTE SWAGGS

[Poli]

Agreed, path.

[Alan T]

Heh, if it makes sense, but that move actually helps me feel a bit better about moving my vote off of him. I get the feeling Ge is so caught up in his birthday he has no idea whats happening. Im guessing if he was a wolf, that wouldn't be the case...

Anyhows the vote now:

(4) swaggs - ntndeacon (607), Ardent (654), alan (666), path (678)
(3) render - lathum (583), saldana (649), Goldeneagle (676)
(1) GE - swaggs (586)
(1) lathum - render (648)

[path12]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

In at the deadline, eh GE?

If Swaggs ends up bad, GE is the other wolf.

[GoldenEagle]

UNVOTE RENDER
VOTE SWAGGS

[Swaggs]

Literally just catching up....

[GoldenEagle]

Dola, I was not paying attention. Thanks for pointing that out path.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Why vote for me then? the more obvious choice is Swaggs, guarenteeing your living through the lynching at this point.

That sort of smack of protecting a fellow wolf. no?

Self preservation is the call of the day it seems:

UNVOTE LATHUM

VOTE SWAGGS

I wouldn't call this vote a self preservation vote though.

[Alan T]

updated with Render's vote:

(5) swaggs - ntndeacon (607), Ardent (654), alan (666), path (678), Render (680)
(3) render - lathum (583), saldana (649), Goldeneagle (676)
(1) GE - swaggs (586)

[Swaggs]

Looks like I got the vote swayed to me.

Unfortunate, but can't blame you all. I've played a crappy game and contributed little.

I am a villager, unfortunately.

[Swaggs]

Guess I will see if things swing.

Unvote Golden Eagle

Vote Render

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I wouldn't call this vote a self preservation vote though.

Absolutely it was, at the time it ensured swaggs had more votes tham me. Now that others have moved its not as important.

[Swaggs]

Man, catching up.

This really stinks of a wolf swing away from GE.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Guess I will see if things swing.

Unvote Golden Eagle

Vote Render

I can't switch that way.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Man, catching up.

This really stinks of a wolf swing away from GE.

I'd be willing to go back to GE, but it's very late.

[Poli]

This looks pretty crazy.

[Swaggs]

Well, I'll vote for GE, but no one else will.

Well done, wolves.

I'm surprised at some of the leaders on my lynching.

[saldana]

unvote render
vote swaggs

[Swaggs]

You guys better be knocking on GE's door tomorrow.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by path12

I'd be willing to go back to GE, but it's very late.

It probably would just get Render lynched instead. And right now I feel better about him than Swaggs or GE

[path12]

Originally Posted by Alan T

It probably would just get Render lynched instead. And right now I feel better about him than Swaggs or GE

Me too. I'm almost positive GE is bad. But we'll see what happens here first.