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View Poll Results: How is Obama doing? (poll started 6/6) | |||
Great - above my expectations | 18 | 6.87% | |
Good - met most of my expectations | 66 | 25.19% | |
Average - so so, disappointed a little | 64 | 24.43% | |
Bad - sold us out | 101 | 38.55% | |
Trout - don't know yet | 13 | 4.96% | |
Voters: 262. You may not vote on this poll |
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12-08-2009, 04:50 PM | #6851 |
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12-08-2009, 04:53 PM | #6852 | |
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As I've written throughout the thread ACORN has no business getting funded not only for this but also because I don't think our tax dollars should be funding groups like that in the first place. |
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12-08-2009, 05:19 PM | #6853 | |
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How about we deal with all of them that are known. If one is so minor while the other is outrageous, why haven't the majority Democrats called for a vote on pulling Blackwater funding? There's more than enough votes if it truly is a partisan situation. How did the Republicans so easily persuade everyone on the Democrat side to pull the ACORN funding? I'm tired of excuses. If the issues are so well known with Blackwater (which I believe they are), why the hell aren't they pulling funding? Time to stop whining and time to start putting the rubber to the road. |
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12-08-2009, 05:26 PM | #6854 | |
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Plus it involves military actions which all the couch potato warriors get up in arms about pulling any funding for. |
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12-08-2009, 07:20 PM | #6855 |
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bwahhahahahaha pot
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12-08-2009, 07:46 PM | #6856 | |
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But if it's an important issue it should be addressed. Are we going to worry about being reelected or doing the right thing? |
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12-09-2009, 07:40 AM | #6857 | |
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Interesting conversation in Congress right now. Pelosi and Obama have both mentioned using leftover TARP money to fund other projects. Only one problem.......the TARP bill specifically states that any leftover money MUST go to pay down the national debt. From Congressman Pence's speech on the floor:
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I think this would be a great disclaimer to put in spending measures moving forward. It allows the money to go towards what it was intended for, while returning any leftover money to pay down debt rather than just shovel it off to another project. If you want the new project, pass another bill stating the specific need and put similar wording in that bill. It's an easy way to add some level of responsibility to all these spending bills. |
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12-09-2009, 07:52 AM | #6858 |
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Pence has a history of being wrong on everything, so I'd want to see the language of the bill before I trust his interpretation.
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12-09-2009, 07:59 AM | #6859 | |||
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Any link to the bill where it states what you put out there? a quick look before work finds this but Ill look more at work: Quote:
interesting section here that is OT but still interesting that the Pres. has the authority to 'even up' TARP from the financial industry: Quote:
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12-09-2009, 03:08 PM | #6860 |
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Interesting Conversation happening...out there. Seems the banks are shouldering the blame for the failure of the loan modification program. Calls are growing louder for the administration to take a tougher stand against them. Ahem cough
wow, that's easier to do than I thought. No wonder the spinmeister has such an easy time with lead ins like that. Only 10,000 permanent loan modifications so far - Yahoo! Finance
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12-09-2009, 03:11 PM | #6861 |
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12-09-2009, 03:38 PM | #6862 |
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12-09-2009, 06:56 PM | #6863 |
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oh, BTW, Im sure Fox News gets a pass for the Daily Show's exposure of their poll that added up to 120%. Like the misspliced rally footage.
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12-09-2009, 07:01 PM | #6864 |
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linky? i wanna see and laugh
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12-09-2009, 07:02 PM | #6865 |
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Look at the last video in the Daily Show thread
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12-09-2009, 07:15 PM | #6866 |
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yeah i just noticed that.
Andrew Sorkin, author of "Too Big to Fail" on Daily Show tonight. I hope Stewart has a good interview with him...the book was great.
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12-09-2009, 10:43 PM | #6867 |
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So I'm a little sketchy on my Schoolhouse Rock, but could we just be setting up for this with health care? (Tho there are murmors that this bill may go straight to the House for a vote)
-Compromise bill leaves Senate, fillibuster broken and passed in its current state with the Medicare/Medicaid expansion and the public option killed -Conference Committee is stacked with Dems so it's pretty easy to get Sens Rockefeller and Sanders to agree with, say Russ Feingold to craft a bill a lot like the House's as a compromise but kicking the Stupak amendment, reinstating the public option from the House bill, keeping the Medicaid and Medicare additions (or maybe dropping them), and then sending it for a vote. -The House should be able to easily get that passed while the Senate still can get 50 votes instead of 60 so Nelson, Lincoln, Lieberman, et al, can go sit on their thumbs and watch it pass them by. And, more importantly, why doesn't this happen more often? I must be missing something procedural SI
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12-10-2009, 06:23 AM | #6868 | |
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My understanding is that reconciliation still can be filibustered.
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12-10-2009, 08:29 AM | #6869 | |
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BOOOOOOOO state-based exchanges are a fucking joke. a national-exchange would be the only type of exchange with enough fucking bargining power
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12-10-2009, 08:39 AM | #6870 |
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Wow...nice to see some things never change around here.
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12-10-2009, 08:52 AM | #6871 |
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While reading the standard wire service version of the "Obama defends US wars as he accepts peace prize" I noticed something odd at the end. Or at least it struck me a little odd.
In the evening, Obama is expected to wave to a torchlight procession from his hotel balcony and stroll with Norwegian royalty to a dinner banquet. He will offer comments a second time there and cap his brisk jaunt to Europe. It's the part about waving from the balcony that caught my eye. That just seemed like an odd note to include, from a safety/security standpoint. I mean it just sounded like a "okay protestors, we'll give you a target in the open for a few minutes tonight, just thought you'd like a heads up". Yeah, I know, there's security everywhere etc etc etc. It just struck me as an odd thing to have out there.
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12-10-2009, 10:27 AM | #6872 |
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FWIW on the mortgage mod front, my parents have had to do it and have had to resend documentation to their lender, Wells Fargo, multiple times because they would lose it or miscategorize it. sometimes upon further review they'd already have it.
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12-10-2009, 10:32 AM | #6873 | |
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Its a tradition the peace prize winners have all done he last several years. |
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12-10-2009, 10:51 AM | #6874 | |
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Ah, didn't know that, makes more sense to me now. Thanks.
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12-10-2009, 10:53 AM | #6875 |
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12-10-2009, 11:08 AM | #6876 |
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Apparently some Norwegians are pissed off that Obama isn't going to stick around for all 15 million tradtional nobel prize winner activites.
I mean, the guy kind of has a busy job.... We all can't live like lazy, drunken Norwegians. Last edited by molson : 12-10-2009 at 11:08 AM. |
12-10-2009, 03:12 PM | #6877 |
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Interesting conversation happening out there the vast majority bof americans want to raise taxes on the rich....
this is fun mbbf Americans Want Government to Spend for Jobs, Send Bill to Rich - Yahoo! News inaccurate, but fun.
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12-10-2009, 03:42 PM | #6878 | |
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Hasn't that been Democratic election strategy for like 20 years now?
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12-10-2009, 03:46 PM | #6879 |
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"We want businesses to provide more jobs!"
"Let's tax the rich people!" "That will enable businesses to provide more jobs!" "Oh wait, the rich people own the businesses, never thought of that!" "Well at least Obama and the Democratic congressmen are in our corner. None of them are rich!" |
12-10-2009, 03:49 PM | #6880 |
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Senator 1: "AIG is thinking about giving bonuses out and increasing their pay! That's an outrage!"
Senator 2: "How about you do something positive first and then we will talk about paying you more? What kind of a system rewards complete failure?" Senator 3: "We need you guys on the Senate floor, we are voting on increasing our pay." |
12-11-2009, 08:06 AM | #6881 | |
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I enjoyed the following commentary on Obama's Nobel speech from NPR's All Things Considered last night:
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I've bolded the part that made me want to post it here when I heard it last night, as a somewhat-good explanation of why I (and people like me) voted for Obama and still support him: a combination of idealism & realism, tempered by a lot of pragmatism. |
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12-11-2009, 08:33 AM | #6882 |
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My only confusion was why Obama let Dubya write his Nobel Prize acceptance speech. When the same words and ideals come off Obama's lips, it suddenly becomes a rainbow of fruit flavors instead of a briar patch.
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12-11-2009, 08:34 AM | #6883 |
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You get an A+ for oversimplification!
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12-11-2009, 08:46 AM | #6884 |
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12-11-2009, 09:48 AM | #6885 |
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The difference is, Obama can read the teleprompter.
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12-11-2009, 09:50 AM | #6886 | |
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Words generally weren't Bush's problem. He gave a few good speeches, but when it came time for action he tended to fuck things up.
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12-11-2009, 09:52 AM | #6887 | |
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To not just let me snarky comment lie, I found Obama's speech to be very realpolitik while Bush's foreign policy speeches were filled with blustery idealism.
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12-11-2009, 10:08 AM | #6888 |
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I found that the speeches of both Obama and Bush generally sucked pretty bad. "Blustery idealism" is a pretty generous description of Bush's babbles, and Obama has that fake tone that makes him sound like he's always acting in an action movie or something.
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12-11-2009, 10:16 AM | #6890 |
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I'm speaking of substance over style.
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12-11-2009, 11:02 AM | #6891 | |
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[whisper] We've secretly replaced the American President with actor Dwayne Johnson ... let's see if they notice [/whisper]
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12-11-2009, 11:18 AM | #6892 | |
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12-11-2009, 11:34 AM | #6893 | |
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12-11-2009, 11:42 AM | #6894 | |
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I thought Bush's democracy speech was pretty good.
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12-11-2009, 11:56 AM | #6895 |
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From what I've read, I think this is the best speech Obama's delivered as president.
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12-11-2009, 12:09 PM | #6896 |
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Interesting report coming out of the hill today that shows that the Health Care bill is bad. US health care tab to keep growing under overhaul - Yahoo! News in this case, if the govt arm is truly bipartisan and not spun, than this is sobering and hopefully can spur some improvements to the bill.
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12-11-2009, 09:45 PM | #6897 |
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I am not a big fan of Obama but I have to admit he has really bad luck. This is an actual magaizine that just hit the newsstands. (Saw it on Bill Simmons site)
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12-12-2009, 06:55 AM | #6898 |
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Oh Bama!
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12-15-2009, 02:36 PM | #6899 | |
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..."Actor"... Dwayne Johnson? SI
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So the GOP created their own version of tinyurl, except with a GOP frame around the page. Unfortunately they didn't think that people would do things like this:
http://gop.am/0B9y or this http://gop.am/9h14 and that doesn't even count all the porn sites. Today they shut their service down.
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