2020 Democratic Primaries/General Election Thread

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

I'm 51 and have long asserted that the biggest existing cultural divide between generations is the one between GenX and Boomers. We're the first generation to start kindergarten in integrated schools, the first generation to have computers in our schools, the first generation with hip-hop music, and nearly the first generation with a large proliferation of mainstream "R" movies, and, as we discussed at FOFC maybe 3-4 weeks ago, our view of what constitutes humor differs vastly from Boomers as well, but is still quite mainstream for today. Those are all *gigantic* cultural shifts that the generation above us didn't experience. And in many cases, not only did they not experience the tech/race differences, in the case of movies and movies, in most cases they out-and-out rejected it, whereas the average Gen Xer has familiarity with the music and movies of the 2 generations beneath us. I can have a conversation about race, music, movies, or technology with the average 30-year-old, where the average 70-year-old would be completely lost.

Originally Posted by timmynausea

These are great points. I hadn't thought much about the relationship the different generations have to race, technology, and culture that way, especially through the lenses of the specific thresholds you talked about, and it's a really profound observation.

I've had similar conversations with people. I think our generation is also really unique in that we grew up without a lot of the modern technology we use so much now. We remember what it was like to read box scores in the paper the next day, or 2 days later for west coast games. Not be able to DVR shows, go to blockbuster to rent movies, sports highlites on the news, three way calling!! etc...30 year olds can't grasp that way of life yet 70 year old don't embrace a lot of the technology available to them.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Edward64

The degree differs between generations e.g. between Gen Y and Z are not that wide (or at least I don't think so).

However, I think there was a comparable great divide between the silent/greatest generation vs boomers. The former had the Depression and WW2 to deal with and boomers had rock & roll, Vietnam etc.

That makes sense to me. I just don't know - never really looked much into it.

SI

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Arles

If I could sign a petition that would replace both McConnell and Pelosi, I would do it in a second. But with Biden, Covid and a struggling economy, McConnell is licking his chops. Like the old Heston saying, you will have to pry the senate leadership from his "cold, dead hands".

Have you seen his hands lately?

[Butter]

I used to love reading the USA Today. The color coding. The detailed stats on the sports pages.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I've had similar conversations with people. I think our generation is also really unique in that we grew up without a lot of the modern technology we use so much now. We remember what it was like to read box scores in the paper the next day, or 2 days later for west coast games. Not be able to DVR shows, go to blockbuster to rent movies, sports highlites on the news, three way calling!! etc...30 year olds can't grasp that way of life yet 70 year old don't embrace a lot of the technology available to them.

The big thing I've seen about that is it drastically alters how we receive and process information. Boomers on the one side of the digital divide, X in the middle, and Millennial/since on the other side.

SI

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Have you seen his hands lately?

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Butter

I used to love reading the USA Today. The color coding. The detailed stats on the sports pages.

Same!

SI

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Another silly one...


Boomer Women: "A lady never tells her age!"
Gen X Women: "GOOD MORNING, FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM!!! TODAY I'M FIFTY AND FLY, BITCHES!!!"

Or.....

My wife, Gen X, will roll into the grocery store to grab some bagels wearing yoga pants and a tank top

Mom and MIL won't leave the house without doing their hair and putting their face on

[timmynausea]

Originally Posted by Butter

I used to love reading the USA Today. The color coding. The detailed stats on the sports pages.

Yep.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Butter

I used to love reading the USA Today. The color coding. The detailed stats on the sports pages.

Was always the best. I travelled a ton in my early 20s and it was always free at hotels and I would pick it up in airports.

[Kodos]

I would take a McConnell-Pelosi removal in a heartbeat.

[Edward64]

I can picture Floridians kicking back today in their lawn chairs and nodding knowingly that they are no longer the main example of election "anxiety".

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Arles

If I could sign a petition that would replace both McConnell and Pelosi, I would do it in a second. But with Biden, Covid and a struggling economy, McConnell is licking his chops. Like the old Heston saying, you will have to pry the senate leadership from his "cold, dead hands".

I think most Dems would do that without even thinking twice

SI

[ISiddiqui]

https://twitter.com/NYTnickc/status/...042284544?s=20

PA Dems update, say Biden will win state by about 175K and link to their data below

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Was always the best. I travelled a ton in my early 20s and it was always free at hotels and I would pick it up in airports.

What I loved picking up when traveling was USA Today's Baseball Weekly. Those were the best!

SI

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Was always the best. I travelled a ton in my early 20s and it was always free at hotels and I would pick it up in airports.

Me too. Back then USAToday had a lot of content. Now the paper version is a very slim version of itself. The website is okay.

[Drake]

When I was like 12, I would set a portion of my allowance aside just so I could buy a weekly copy of USA Today outside of my mom's office.

Triple bonus during baseball season when they'd print a whole page of current player stats.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

https://twitter.com/NYTnickc/status/...042284544?s=20

Are the PA ballots vote-by-mail only? Is that why they are so confident? Because they have Biden winning in almost every county which is clearly not the case on the map as a whole

SI

[Lathum]

Remember doing fantasy league results by hand using box scores?

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Drake

When I was like 12, I would set a portion of my allowance aside just so I could buy a weekly copy of USA Today outside of my mom's office.

Triple bonus during baseball season when they'd print a whole page of current player stats.

That stat day was great. I was always excited when we were in a hotel during baseball season.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Are the PA ballots vote-by-mail only? Is that why they are so confident? Because they have Biden winning in almost every county which is clearly not the case on the map as a whole

SI

From what I've read PA is counting early votes only at this point and they've consistently broken about 78% toward Biden since yesterday.

[Drake]

FOFC is what you get when young dorks grow up to be old dorks.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Are the PA ballots vote-by-mail only? Is that why they are so confident? Because they have Biden winning in almost every county which is clearly not the case on the map as a whole

SI

Just about everything now is mail in. There are a few election day votes in Phily, but the rest of the state has counted those, IIRC.

[rjolley]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

What I loved picking up when traveling was USA Today's Baseball Weekly. Those were the best!

SI

Baseball Weekly was the best. Enjoyed reading that, especially when I was travelling.

[ISiddiqui]

https://twitter.com/JustinGrayWSB/st...520720896?s=20

50k left in GA and the lead is now less than 14k. It's going to be clooooose

[miami_fan]

The guy in Clark County is not here for the shits.

[Edward64]

Clark County spokesman is getting testy in his news conference.

[ISiddiqui]

Here is Jon Ralston:

https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/s...15080226643971

Nevada is going Biden.

[kingfc22]

Mail-in ballots in GA for Biden continue to trend at 67%+ which should be enough to take the state.

https://twitter.com/gtryan/status/1324413829351170048

[albionmoonlight]

PredictIt has Biden with better odds in NV than it has for Trump in NC.

My guess is that the networks are waiting for Biden to surpass Trump in PA and then, with the remaining ballots being expected to be pro-Biden, call it then.

[kingfc22]

Yea, NV seems solid for Biden at this point.

[stevew]

I think we should just settle this election in PA with Lt Gov. John Fetterman in bare shirt combat vs Eric and Donald Jr.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by stevew

I think we should just settle this election in PA with Lt Gov. John Fetterman in bare shirt combat vs Eric and Donald Jr.

Do you think that Eric's torso is paler than his face?

Is that physically possible?

[Edward64]

I know MSM is reporting that mail-in favors Biden. Article in ajc.com said all military overseas ballots (Fulton) have not yet been counted. I would assume those go for Trump. Wonder if that is same situation for the other battleground states?

There are still 3,600 provisional ballots and an undetermined amount of military overseas ballots left to be finalized. The deadline for those is 5 p.m. Friday.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Kodos

I would take a McConnell-Pelosi removal in a heartbeat.

Me too, all Leadership really-maybe sit them down when/if Biden wins and tell them America wants them to step down, and call for it in State of the Union speech

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

PredictIt has Biden with better odds in NV than it has for Trump in NC.

My guess is that the networks are waiting for Biden to surpass Trump in PA and then, with the remaining ballots being expected to be pro-Biden, call it then.

Trump knows that's the game, too, which is why he's trying to get people in to slow down the PA voting as much as possible.

SI

[JediKooter]

Originally Posted by Drake

FOFC is what you get when young dorks grow up to be old dorks.

I used to write down my players stats on grid paper for MicroLeague Baseball for each game, until they came out with the Box Score/Stats disc. I still have some of those pieces of grid paper somewhere.

[sovereignstar v2]

Originally Posted by JediKooter

I used to write down my players stats on grid paper for MicroLeague Baseball for each game, until they came out with the Box Score/Stats disc. I still have some of those pieces of grid paper somewhere.

That's nothing. When I was 11 I created a league using a Talking Football game that was shaped like a stadium. It only came with cards for both all-pro teams, but I bought a fantasy football book and did my own fantasy draft to create 8 new teams. Of course I kept stats in a notebook! I'm 39 and still not married.

[thesloppy]

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by stevew

I think we should just settle this election in PA with Lt Gov. John Fetterman in bare shirt combat vs Eric and Donald Jr.

I loved that guy's commercials and some of the TV spots he had when he was running for the senate a few years ago. I had wondered what happened to him earlier this year (during the barrage of commercials). Glad to know he's still around and moving up.

It's funny looking him up on wikipedia - he has a MPP from Harvard. He looks like the dude in everyone's high school class that wears flame shirts and black shorts year 'round. We need more people like him in politics.

[ISiddiqui]

PA SOS apparently just said there are 550k absentee ballots left. At Biden's rate on absentee ballots in PA, he should make up that deficit really quickly.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by JediKooter

I used to write down my players stats on grid paper for MicroLeague Baseball for each game, until they came out with the Box Score/Stats disc. I still have some of those pieces of grid paper somewhere.

I did this with Hardball on the Sega Genesis.

[Bobble]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Remember doing fantasy league results by hand using box scores?

I tell younglings about those days and they look at me like I have an onion tied to my belt...which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. ... The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have any white onions, because of the war.

[Butter]

Yet the PA votes have barely moved in hours. So let's see some movement

[ISiddiqui]

There was just a PA drop 30 mins ago.

114k lead with 92% of the vote counted.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

I did this with Hardball on the Sega Genesis.

hah. I kept stats on this, was only Red vs Blue on my Apple 2gs. Gotta break out the FASTBALL! occasionally.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

PA SOS apparently just said there are 550k absentee ballots left. At Biden's rate on absentee ballots in PA, he should make up that deficit really quickly.

At 75% for Biden, he would make up 275K and is currently down by 114K so he better hope this trend continues. Like I mentioned earlier, I just don't see why folks on TV keep talking about some landslide victory in PA for Biden. He should get there but it isn't going to be by 500K.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

At 75% for Biden, he would make up 137K and is currently down by 114K so he better hope this trend continues. Like I mentioned earlier, I just don't see why folks on TV keep talking about some landslide victory in PA for Biden.

Nate Cohn says there are still some in person votes from Philly to be counted.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

At 75% for Biden, he would make up 174K and is currently down by 114K so he better hope this trend continues. Like I mentioned earlier, I just don't see why folks on TV keep talking about some landslide victory in PA for Biden.

I think your math is off.

75% of 550k = 412.5k

Means Trump gets (25%) = 137.5k

So Biden would win those 550k votes by 275k.

[kingfc22]

Yea, I caught that and updated it.

Still not a huge victory but makes me feel a bit better.