09-25-2017, 01:55 PM | #6501 | |
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If you can think of a way, I would most certainly invest. This seems like something that should have been done already. 😀
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09-25-2017, 02:03 PM | #6502 | |
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09-25-2017, 02:08 PM | #6503 | |
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I agree. It's a time-tested plan he's using. Portray the darker skin folks as not "true Americans". Works even better if they became successful and you can call them spoiled. This is what the birther stuff was all about. It's what the stuff about left-handed pledges and not wearing lapel pins was about. It works because it plays to racist beliefs without actually coming out and stating the racist belief. And for some reason this country cares more about culture wars than anything else. This goes for both sides too. Maybe there is some kind of psychological reason for it but it's just how things are. |
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09-25-2017, 02:13 PM | #6504 |
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What's astounding is the players being out there for the anthem is a paid recruiting tool by the government. We had no problem with players staying in the locker room for the anthem until the government was paying for patriotism and didn't get it.
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09-25-2017, 03:16 PM | #6505 | |
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I had that exact sentiment in my post, but ended up deleting it.
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09-25-2017, 03:21 PM | #6506 |
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09-25-2017, 03:36 PM | #6507 |
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North Korea says that Trump declared war on them.
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09-25-2017, 04:23 PM | #6508 |
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Remember that time two days ago when Trump tweeted that Iran had tested a missile? Turns out they didn't. He was fooled by a video from months ago.
That seems like a dangerous precedent.
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09-25-2017, 04:50 PM | #6509 |
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09-25-2017, 05:11 PM | #6510 |
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That moment when your jingoistic alt-right hero is not a jingoistic alt-right hero...
PITTSBURGH STEELERS: Villanueva: Saluting anthem was last-minute decision, teammates didn't know | WPXI
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09-25-2017, 05:53 PM | #6511 | |
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This is why your President should listen to his own intelligence instead of reports from Fox News. |
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09-25-2017, 06:03 PM | #6512 | |
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Sounds more like a dangerous President to me. Boom! (I'll get my coat)
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09-25-2017, 07:00 PM | #6513 | |
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09-25-2017, 07:26 PM | #6514 | |
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Let's get to tax reform now.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/25/politi...tus/index.html Quote:
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09-25-2017, 07:27 PM | #6515 |
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Tax reform is great. Give D.C. 2 Senators and a Rep or exempt them from taxes.
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09-25-2017, 07:55 PM | #6516 | |
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You have a point. Taxation without representation. Isnt that one of the reasons we revolted?
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09-25-2017, 07:58 PM | #6517 |
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Trump handlers finally pulled him away from Fox News long enough to remind him to mention Puerto Rico. Of course this crisis is on them for having poor infrastructure to begin with.
But don’t worry, everything is “doing well”. This MFer is simply unreal.
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09-25-2017, 08:01 PM | #6518 |
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Federal dollars may drive them to statehood.
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09-25-2017, 08:14 PM | #6519 |
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It's telling that his first concern is for Wall Street getting their money back, then kinda sorta the actual human devastation.
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09-26-2017, 01:09 PM | #6520 |
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No vote will be held on Graham-Cassidy. Now to see if they'll try to write and pass a new bill in 4 days time.
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09-26-2017, 01:32 PM | #6521 | |
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yes but... GOP already eyeing next chance to revive Obamacare repeal - POLITICO
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09-26-2017, 01:56 PM | #6522 |
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They've been struggling to get 50+VP on health care alone. Does anyone think they can get 50+ on health care+ tax cuts?
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09-26-2017, 01:58 PM | #6523 |
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Does anyone know Arizona law on replacing deceased Senators? This would be a lot easier with a reliable Yes vote instead of McCain.
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09-26-2017, 02:01 PM | #6524 | |
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This line speaks volumes about Conservatives outlook on life:
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09-26-2017, 04:43 PM | #6525 | |
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09-26-2017, 04:49 PM | #6526 |
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If I were a GOP voter, I wouldn't be pissed just b/c Obamacare repeal has failed so far. Remaking health care is hard--see how long it took the Democrats to do it.
I'd be pissed that they already passed Obamacare repeal dozens (hundreds?) of times when Obama was president, but refused to just pass those same bills now that they have a Prez who will sign them. |
09-26-2017, 04:51 PM | #6527 | |
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I tend to agree. However... I served 9 years and my wife currently serves and I'm uncomfortable with how we tend to put service members on a pedestal. Villanueva came out and admitted he screwed up in how he handled this. But the immediate reaction by many was to praise him, buy his jerseys, and trash the rest of the Steelers players along with the NFL without giving thought to the fact that Villanueva may not be the good guy in this. I'm not saying he's the bad guy, but it's difficult to say he was in the right here. We've become a society where it's unamerican to even question a service member and their service is used to push agendas more than anything. |
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09-26-2017, 04:55 PM | #6528 | |
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If I were a GOP voter I'd be pissed that repealing Obamacare has become more about doing to say you did it rather than fix anything. They've openly tried to make healthcare worse for the population as a whole because they're focused on wrong problems. Repealing Obamacare and doing nothing else would be better than what they've tried to do. They just know it would be political suicide to do so now that more people have some form of healthcare. |
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09-26-2017, 05:39 PM | #6529 | |
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What you mean, the Dems drafted it in 3 hours and snuck it into law. That's what my reps tell me in SC. |
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09-26-2017, 05:40 PM | #6530 |
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I expect articulate Trump to emerge now that Twitter is jumping to 280 characters.
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09-26-2017, 08:19 PM | #6531 | |
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Thank you for saying this, Atocep. I worry sometimes about how our country manages to move these sorts of issues into a zone where being a veteran lends someone a special expertise or gravitas...like service somehow makes them more of a citizen (in like a Starship Troopers sense) than everyone else. I've got a brother who is a lieutenant colonel in the Air Force. He's an awesome human being (despite the fact that he's still my stupid kid brother...not sure how that happened). He did three tours in Afghanistan and 1 in Iraq. I'm immensely proud of him. He'd also be the first person to remind me that his education is in Business, not Constitutional Law. The national anthem means something different to him than it does to me because of his experiences, but that doesn't make what it means to me somehow less than or inadequate. Just different. A reflection of that difference is that the national anthem business doesn't really mean much to me except as an excuse to eat more popcorn when I'm scrolling through Facebook. That said, my official take on it is that if someone wasn't upset about Tim Tebow taking up company time to kneel in prayer on the sidelines, then they can't really be upset about this, either. (And I say that acknowledging that I only get pissed off about protests when I disagree with what people are protesting for. I'm as hypocritical as the next guy, but I'd like to think that I'm at least self-aware enough to realize that I'm hypocritical.) |
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09-26-2017, 09:36 PM | #6532 | |
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We elected a man who trashed a POW for getting captured and belittled a gold star family. Service members are now just pawns for politicians and their minions to show off faux-patriotism. I'd argue the country doesn't really care at all about them. |
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09-26-2017, 09:38 PM | #6533 | |
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How many times have I mentioned in some form or fashion that Trump's support only extends insofar as he delivers?
Roy Moore didn't just win today's runoff, he pretty well trounced the establishment pick that Trump campaigned for. The WSJ coverage had a beautiful bit that I'm almost giddy about Quote:
More & more, I'm starting to wonder if we shouldn't have just elected Bannon. edit to add: It's easy to say "oh, it's just Alabama being Alabama" however, how many Trump voters do you think are the "hug it out" type? I dare say it's a damned low percentage.
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09-26-2017, 09:40 PM | #6534 |
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i still don't get why Trump didn't stump for Moore. He's essentially a more horrible Trump with less money.
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09-26-2017, 09:42 PM | #6535 | |
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Republicans spent $10 million to try to defeat Moore. McConnell and Co found him so dangerous they spent huge dollars and had the administration campaign for Strange and they still lost. The losses pilling up for McConnell astounding. |
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09-26-2017, 09:42 PM | #6536 | |
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I think -- and this is the reason I felt like Trump's mistake in choices is kind of forgivable -- Trump was being loyal to someone that supported him, fairly early on too IIRC. The message -- which I'm not particularly confident will be heard -- that was sent back to Trump was "get shit done ... or we'll find people that will" McConnell backing the loser here feels awfully big to me too. Not sure you could get a much bigger kiss of death than that. (for a candidate, not for McConnell himself)
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09-26-2017, 10:29 PM | #6537 |
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Well normally I'd be happy that a Trump-backed candidate lost (but Donald you said he win!), but Moore is so much more in Trump's style, and so anti-gay that I can't really say I'm happy he won.
http://time.com/4958583/roy-moore-lu...-donald-trump/
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09-27-2017, 01:01 AM | #6539 |
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That Roy Moore dude is a nutter. Damn. Well done Alabama. You're where you are for a reason.
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09-27-2017, 06:58 AM | #6540 |
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Trump's been deleting all his Luther Strange tweets. Before the general election he's going to claim he was the first to endorse Moore.
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09-27-2017, 07:00 AM | #6541 |
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I love how all these people that shout "constitution" and are so pissed that illegals break the law, keep getting behind folks that do not seems to respect the constitution or laws...
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Class Trump-ism on delivierng aid to Puerto Rico:
"This is an island sitting in the middle of an ocean. It’s a big ocean, it’s a very big ocean." I'm going to try this next time I'm in a meeting and something comes up that I know next to nothing about... Say the one (unrelated, if possible) thing I do know about it, and then emphasis my own point.
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They keep turning up voter fraud in the oddest places:
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09-27-2017, 12:49 PM | #6545 |
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When Moore inevitably wins the general election, I look forward to the Bernie/Stein crowd claiming Doug Jones wasn't sufficiently progressive enough to win.
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09-27-2017, 02:19 PM | #6547 |
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That's a shame.
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09-27-2017, 02:32 PM | #6548 |
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Better than the Tebow analogy.
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09-27-2017, 02:37 PM | #6549 | |
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The tax plan framework is coming out. TBH, not sure how it works out for me but good to know they are working on it.
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