Super Bowl XL - Page 13

GrantDawg · 02-05-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowMan

So "penalties" have cost the Steelers 2 drives down at their own 20ish, and "penalties" have cost the Seahawks 2 or 3 scores (field position and result of plays tell me they'd have scored).

Penalties that the Seahawks were clearly guity of cost them touchdowns, yes.

kingfc22 · 02-05-2006, 08:50 PM

*cough* hold *cough*

Dutch · 02-05-2006, 08:50 PM

No holding on that Rothlisburger run either. Bettis is comin' home! Woo!

TroyF · 02-05-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

And your interpretation of the TD is just that: your interpretation. The line judge walked up to be sure of the position of the line and where he saw the ball and then called a touchdown. Ben moving the ball had nothing to do with it. It was a close call that on the replay was close enough that I'd call it a touchdown. You act like he was a yard away, and he wasn't.

I'm going to ask you again Grant. You questioned my objectivity and cited that I didn't remember the Steeler penalties. Did I or did I not mention the two procedure penalties in the post you criticized me about?

As for the TD, the ref had a clear view. Crystal clear. It was either a TD or it wasn't. I can live with him making a call straight up and missing it. I have a tougher time dealing with him not making the call, watching Ben move the ball from the half yard line to the goal line and then calling a TD. That's ridiculous.

cthomer5000 · 02-05-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by biological warrior

Hines Ward (if Pitt wins) 5 catches 123 yds 1td, but Parker could very well be, Even Jerome might be a shoe in.

Ward got my vote. He also had the 18 yard run in the first half.

PilotMan · 02-05-2006, 08:51 PM

This is one ugly game, certainly not one for the ages.

Not that I am going to complain about the result.

SnowMan · 02-05-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Penalties that the Seahawks were clearly guity of cost them touchdowns, yes.

That push-off by D-Jack was NOT clear, nor was the hold by Locklear...who's view is skewed here, anyways?

Buccaneer · 02-05-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Pretty ugly game with neither team playing particularly well. Looks pretty sure that the Steelers will hold on here.

Sounds about right. I guess there is hope for Falcons fans afterall. A QB can go 9 for 21, 123 yds with 2 picks and still win the SB.

biological warrior · 02-05-2006, 08:51 PM

I think that's it folks.

Blade6119 · 02-05-2006, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDevil

I am going to break the 300 post mark, but at least I might have the record of reading this forum everyday for more than six years without having 300 posts. Some kind of trophy is order right.....

Your at 299

Craptacular · 02-05-2006, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

As for the TD, the ref had a clear view. Crystal clear. It was either a TD or it wasn't. I can live with him making a call straight up and missing it. I have a tougher time dealing with him not making the call, watching Ben move the ball from the half yard line to the goal line and then calling a TD. That's ridiculous.

Troy, I agree with that post 100%. However, I do believe that the TD was correctly upheld by replay.

biological warrior · 02-05-2006, 08:53 PM

Wonder how the Mannings are feeling right now.

TroyF · 02-05-2006, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowMan

That push-off by D-Jack was NOT clear, nor was the hold by Locklear...who's view is skewed here, anyways?

Exactly, my objectivity gets questions and someone says those two calls were clear? yeah, one was clear, the Locklear call was clearly wrong. The Jackson call was iffy at best.

PilotMan · 02-05-2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowMan

That push-off by D-Jack was NOT clear, nor was the hold by Locklear...who's view is skewed here, anyways?

C'mon on, the push off was clear as day. That shove that changed the direction of the defender. Or did he just run into an invisible wall?

GrantDawg · 02-05-2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

I'm going to ask you again Grant. You questioned my objectivity and cited that I didn't remember the Steeler penalties. Did I or did I not mention the two procedure penalties in the post you criticized me about?

As for the TD, the ref had a clear view. Crystal clear. It was either a TD or it wasn't. I can live with him making a call straight up and missing it. I have a tougher time dealing with him not making the call, watching Ben move the ball from the half yard line to the goal line and then calling a TD. That's ridiculous.

I'm sorry but I didn't not notice your mentioning of the procedure call. I responded after reading your "how is one team holding" comment. My bad.

The rest of what I've said still stands. You're wrong on the "crystal clear" thing. I've seen line judges make that delayed call many, many times. Ben moving the ball did not change the call.

Schmidty · 02-05-2006, 08:55 PM

What a crappy game.

TroyF · 02-05-2006, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Sounds about right. I guess there is hope for Falcons fans afterall. A QB can go 9 for 21, 123 yds with 2 picks and still win the SB.

12-22, 123 yards, 1 INT, 0TD.

John Elway against the Packers in the 1997 Super Bowl.

Holmgren has been beat twice in the big game by QB's having subpar games.

GrantDawg · 02-05-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Exactly, my objectivity gets questions and someone says those two calls were clear? yeah, one was clear, the Locklear call was clearly wrong. The Jackson call was iffy at best.

The Jackson call was "iffy?" He pushed off and then caught the ball. He might have gotten away with it if the ref wasn't right there, but it was clear as a bell.

SnowMan · 02-05-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

C'mon on, the push off was clear as day. That shove that changed the direction of the defender. Or did he just run into an invisible wall?

He wasn't moving. He was already stopped. They both had their hands on each other and when D-Jack cut back his arm extended. The defender didn't get a good jump, D-Jack did. Touchdown overruled so the NFL could get their winner finally. After all, Indy lost to Pittsburgh and the NFL jumped on the wagon. Well I dont buy into conspiracies so I take that back, but the refs sucked hard in this game.

Craptacular · 02-05-2006, 08:57 PM

To me, the Jackson call wasn't bad. I actually think D Jack tried to push off (right in front of the ref), but didn't do it effectively. He made a push-off type motion, made some contact, and there was separation created. So I can see how the back judge (or whoever that was) made that call, and I can't blame him.

TroyF · 02-05-2006, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I'm sorry but I didn't not notice your mentioning of the procedure call. I responded after reading your "how is one team holding" comment. My bad.

The rest of what I've said still stands. You're wrong on the "crystal clear" thing. I've seen line judges make that delayed call many, many times. Ben moving the ball did not change the call.

Fine. Disagree with me. Like the ref making the call right away, I can live with that.

Don't question my objectivity because you disagree with my opinion or choose to read half my posts.

TroyF · 02-05-2006, 08:59 PM

What did astrosfan bet, was the line 3.5? Wouldn't he be pissed off now if Seattle scored and got a two point conversion.

biological warrior · 02-05-2006, 09:00 PM

If they only made those 2 fg's earlier......

kingfc22 · 02-05-2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by biological warrior

If they only made those 2 fg's earlier......

Was just about to post the same thing.

GrantDawg · 02-05-2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by biological warrior

If they only made those 2 fg's earlier......

Yup. Those stinking refs should have moved the goal posts.

Galaxy · 02-05-2006, 09:01 PM

Does the NFL need to get rid of the bye week in between the title games? Seems like teams get out motion with it.

kingfc22 · 02-05-2006, 09:01 PM

These playcalls are HORRIBLE

biological warrior · 02-05-2006, 09:01 PM

:Wonders why they dont attempt to go for the end zone:

GrantDawg · 02-05-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

Does the NFL need to get rid of the bye week in between the title games? Seems like teams get out motion with it.

I wish they would.

Craptacular · 02-05-2006, 09:02 PM

What do you think Porter said to Stevens there?

biological warrior · 02-05-2006, 09:02 PM

Jeez that drived looked like the one before half time.

TroyF · 02-05-2006, 09:02 PM

Nice class there by the Steelers. Taunting Stevens when he's down. Really calssy guys there.

Galaxy · 02-05-2006, 09:02 PM

Hasselback is a crappy decision maker.

Dutch · 02-05-2006, 09:02 PM

Steelers Win. They earned it.

Schmidty · 02-05-2006, 09:02 PM

WORST CALL EVER!

HOLMGREN SHOULD BE FIRED!

kingfc22 · 02-05-2006, 09:02 PM

Bah, another team with 5 rings. Boo!

miami_fan · 02-05-2006, 09:02 PM

If they only executed at the end of the first half. I am not going to say the refs cost the Seahawks the game. The Seahawks did a lot of wrong things that cost them the game. But the refs were absolutely horrible in this game.

Congrats to the Steelers

DaddyTorgo · 02-05-2006, 09:02 PM

well that's some fucked-up clock management. you deserve to lose for that mike holmgren. even madden is saying you had to kick the FG after one shot at the endzone

PilotMan · 02-05-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowMan

He wasn't moving. He was already stopped. They both had their hands on each other and when D-Jack cut back his arm extended. The defender didn't get a good jump, D-Jack did. Touchdown overruled so the NFL could get their winner finally. After all, Indy lost to Pittsburgh and the NFL jumped on the wagon. Well I dont buy into conspiracies so I take that back, but the refs sucked hard in this game.

Wow, did you really see the play, because that is not what I saw. I saw a runner make a move to the inside and push off with the defender falling away.
As far as the NFL wanting Pitt to win I call BS. A story of a franchise making to the top of the mountain is equally as good.

SnowMan · 02-05-2006, 09:03 PM

Congrats Pittsburgh. Ugly game but the scoreboard matters. In all honesty, I really hope the NFL reviews the whole officials-during-the-playoffs debacle and find a way to take them out of the outcome of the game.

Craptacular · 02-05-2006, 09:03 PM

Wow, a 6 seed wins it all.

kingfc22 · 02-05-2006, 09:03 PM

There you go Bettis. Hope you made the NFL happy with this "great" story.

Galaxy · 02-05-2006, 09:03 PM

Cowher is looking for Mike...

SnowMan · 02-05-2006, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

Wow, did you really see the play, because that is not what I saw. I saw a runner make a move to the inside and push off with the defender falling away.
As far as the NFL wanting Pitt to win I call BS. A story of a franchise making to the top of the mountain is equally as good.

You missed the part about the Northwest team that wouldn't sell any merchandise.

miami_fan · 02-05-2006, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Nice class there by the Steelers. Taunting Stevens when he's down. Really calssy guys there.

That is only classless for certain teams.

TroyF · 02-05-2006, 09:04 PM

Congrats to Cowher and the Steelers team. They had an amazing run in the playoffs and clearly destiny was on their side.

I will not back down from the refs though. That was one of the most biased, horrific reffing performences I've ever seen in a Super Bowl. It was truly a horrible effort and I sincerely hope I never see any of this crew in another Super Bowl again.

timmynausea · 02-05-2006, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

i see Pittsburg winning it 21-10

Whoa. I was thinking my 24-13 was pretty good.

Galaxy · 02-05-2006, 09:04 PM

Steelers owner looks pretty lifeless for winning a SB.

PilotMan · 02-05-2006, 09:04 PM

WTF with Holmgren not coming out to shake?

Craptacular · 02-05-2006, 09:05 PM

Did Holmgren fall in a hole, or what?

02-05-2006, 08:50 PM	#602
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	cough hold cough __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

02-05-2006, 08:51 PM	#606
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	This is one ugly game, certainly not one for the ages. Not that I am going to complain about the result. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

02-05-2006, 08:55 PM	#616
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	What a crappy game. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

02-05-2006, 09:01 PM	#627
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	These playcalls are HORRIBLE __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

02-05-2006, 09:02 PM	#635
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	WORST CALL EVER! HOLMGREN SHOULD BE FIRED! __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

02-05-2006, 08:50 PM	#603
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	No holding on that Rothlisburger run either. Bettis is comin' home! Woo!

02-05-2006, 08:51 PM	#609
biological warrior High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2005	I think that's it folks.

02-05-2006, 08:53 PM	#612
biological warrior High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2005	Wonder how the Mannings are feeling right now.

02-05-2006, 08:57 PM	#620
Craptacular College Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Mad City, WI	To me, the Jackson call wasn't bad. I actually think D Jack tried to push off (right in front of the ref), but didn't do it effectively. He made a push-off type motion, made some contact, and there was separation created. So I can see how the back judge (or whoever that was) made that call, and I can't blame him.

02-05-2006, 08:59 PM	#622
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	What did astrosfan bet, was the line 3.5? Wouldn't he be pissed off now if Seattle scored and got a two point conversion.

02-05-2006, 09:00 PM	#623
biological warrior High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2005	If they only made those 2 fg's earlier......

02-05-2006, 09:01 PM	#626
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Does the NFL need to get rid of the bye week in between the title games? Seems like teams get out motion with it.

02-05-2006, 09:01 PM	#628
biological warrior High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2005	:Wonders why they dont attempt to go for the end zone:

02-05-2006, 09:02 PM	#630
Craptacular College Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Mad City, WI	What do you think Porter said to Stevens there?

02-05-2006, 09:02 PM	#631
biological warrior High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2005	Jeez that drived looked like the one before half time.

02-05-2006, 09:02 PM	#632
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Nice class there by the Steelers. Taunting Stevens when he's down. Really calssy guys there.

02-05-2006, 09:02 PM	#633
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Hasselback is a crappy decision maker.

02-05-2006, 09:02 PM	#634
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Steelers Win. They earned it.

02-05-2006, 09:02 PM	#636
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Bah, another team with 5 rings. Boo! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

02-05-2006, 09:02 PM	#637
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	If they only executed at the end of the first half. I am not going to say the refs cost the Seahawks the game. The Seahawks did a lot of wrong things that cost them the game. But the refs were absolutely horrible in this game. Congrats to the Steelers

02-05-2006, 09:02 PM	#638
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	well that's some fucked-up clock management. you deserve to lose for that mike holmgren. even madden is saying you had to kick the FG after one shot at the endzone

02-05-2006, 09:03 PM	#640
SnowMan High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Georgia via Alaska via Washington	Congrats Pittsburgh. Ugly game but the scoreboard matters. In all honesty, I really hope the NFL reviews the whole officials-during-the-playoffs debacle and find a way to take them out of the outcome of the game.

02-05-2006, 09:03 PM	#641
Craptacular College Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Mad City, WI	Wow, a 6 seed wins it all.

02-05-2006, 09:03 PM	#642
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	There you go Bettis. Hope you made the NFL happy with this "great" story. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

02-05-2006, 09:03 PM	#643
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Cowher is looking for Mike...

02-05-2006, 09:04 PM	#646
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Congrats to Cowher and the Steelers team. They had an amazing run in the playoffs and clearly destiny was on their side. I will not back down from the refs though. That was one of the most biased, horrific reffing performences I've ever seen in a Super Bowl. It was truly a horrible effort and I sincerely hope I never see any of this crew in another Super Bowl again.

02-05-2006, 09:04 PM	#648
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Steelers owner looks pretty lifeless for winning a SB.

02-05-2006, 09:04 PM	#649
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	WTF with Holmgren not coming out to shake? __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

02-05-2006, 09:05 PM	#650
Craptacular College Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Mad City, WI	Did Holmgren fall in a hole, or what?

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