07-18-2005, 02:22 PM | #601 |
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Not my fault that the bandits do a poor job of proclaiming their innoncence. Also I think I should be -3 since if it weren't for half the voters for henry switching to Airhog, henry should have been lynched day 3 and then I would have voted for someone else.
The people who switched should be suspects because they voted for Airhog for being himself. |
07-18-2005, 02:25 PM | #602 | |
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Hoops, I can't convince you that I am not a creature. No one can at this point. But I know I am a bandit and that the creatures know I am a bandit and will be doing all they can to suggest I am a creature. If you are a bandit/bandit friendly role, all I can do is ask that you try to trust me and help my plan along. I have no bearing on whether you are a creature or not from your posts so far, but anyone that is trying to poke holes in my plan has to be considered a creature/anti-bandit special role right now by me, because not a single shred of evidence has been provided (or at least explored) elsewhere that someone in particular is a creature. |
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07-18-2005, 02:25 PM | #603 | |
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07-18-2005, 02:26 PM | #604 | |
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Thank you. You may have said so in the past, but I wanted people to be up front about it today. |
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07-18-2005, 02:31 PM | #605 | |
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Heh, I sure hope Kool-Aid Man can come to our rescue! |
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07-18-2005, 02:32 PM | #606 | |
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07-18-2005, 02:34 PM | #607 |
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I think I have given alot of information about my role already. I will say that I have an "ace in the hole" that the warlock is not aware of. I believe my "visions" overnight are detailing a plan for us to take down the warlock. I just hope it develops soon.
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07-18-2005, 03:04 PM | #608 | |
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BrianD TazFTW JeeberD and yourself. |
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07-18-2005, 03:08 PM | #609 | |
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That being said, I think that at least one of you is probably innocent. You had the unfortunate luck of voting wrong every time so far. Half the voters switched to Airhog because he said something that really didn't make sense. |
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07-18-2005, 03:09 PM | #610 |
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Wouldn't the fact that I killed a creature make me innocent?
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07-18-2005, 03:20 PM | #611 | |
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#1: You claim you killed Schmidty. #2: Even if you did so, you could've been turned, since that would be a good strategy on BrianD's part...and you killed Schmidty two days ago, which is more than enough time to turn you. |
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07-18-2005, 03:22 PM | #612 |
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Lots of interesting discussion going on with Thomkal's plan. Also, definitely be careful about pointing out strategy after you're dead, it throws the game balance off.
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07-18-2005, 03:29 PM | #613 |
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I didn't think we were allowed to PM dead people in the game.
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07-18-2005, 03:31 PM | #614 | |
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And why would a creature do that? Why set yourself up for that? I repeat my question, has any known creature ever been voted for? For all you know heybrad is (well was now that he's been replaced) a bandit too. Your scale simply is not accurate because we don't know the roles of everyone that has been voted for. The people I voted for I either thought were creatures at the time, out to get me, or was in my best interest to go for because it made me look like less of a target to the creatures. |
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07-18-2005, 03:33 PM | #615 |
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For the record RA, I don't think you are a creature unless you got converted, and I have no way of proving that if you were. So since I am a bandit as well, that makes me on your side.
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07-18-2005, 03:46 PM | #616 | |
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*raises hand* That would be me. |
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07-18-2005, 03:48 PM | #617 |
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I love the "BrianD Development."
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07-18-2005, 04:05 PM | #618 |
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Okay I'm going to make my vote here. I ask my fellow bandits to vote for him and nobody else until 6 pm EST when I will unvote and make my vote for another person. I will explain what to do when I make that second vote. There is an existing vote out there for Brian (by Neon), and if you are a bandit that wants to follow my plan you should NOT vote for him because it has been said by Peregrine that we cannot lynch him.
VOTE MASKED I specifically chose Masked because he's been exactly the same type of player that both Raven was in Werewolf V. Friendly, acting pro-bandit all the time, not causing waves and otherwise not saying much. He also put in a late vote last night and if you remember from Werewolf V I snagged both King and Token Asian Guy as evil because of their late vote and comments, and I was right about both of them. (and killed off because of it). I did not choose anyone participating in today's debate because 1) I think most are bandits or bandit friendly trying to figure out what's going on,and thus need to be kept in the game to continue the discussion should I be taken out. and 2) Pointing a finger at just about any one of the vocal ones would make me seem suspect because almost all of them have admitted to some kind of bandit friendly role at some point in the game. Please please if you believe in my plan, vote just for Masked for now until 6pm when I make my new vote. Do not wait for my new vote because it defeats the purpose of voting analysis. |
07-18-2005, 04:06 PM | #619 |
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Crud! Forgot to mention this in my previous post but didn't want to seem suspicious by editing.
Masked was reading the thread at one point today and chose not to comment after I asked all bandits to come forward with their role and to participate in the plan. |
07-18-2005, 04:12 PM | #620 |
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I don't get it. You want everyone to vote for Masked now. Then change to whoever you suspect at 6pm? I mean your reasons for Masked are sound and all, at least compared to what we have. I'm just still hesitant of this "plan".
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07-18-2005, 04:13 PM | #621 |
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I don't get your rationale for switching votes in an hour.
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07-18-2005, 04:20 PM | #622 |
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Hmm, I will admit to being skeptical about your plan earlier, but didn't want to say anything for fear of being labeled creature-friendly. In this situation, I am wary of the one who loudly proclaims their innocence, especially when he hasn't been singled out yet.
I am a just a bandit who has very little idea what is going on, and thus have not been saying too much. I assure you that I am trying to do what I can to stop the creatures and not hurt the good guys. I also do not want to do anything to make myself a target. As for my late vote last night, blame Omerta. I voted for the same person as the I had previously, Henry (although it was mis-assigned two nights ago). At this point, I wonder if our best strategy may be to force a tie in the vote so that we do not accidently kill another bandit. At this point we are learning more from the night actions than the lynchings. Also we may be in bigger trouble if we accidently lynch the doctor or a guard. |
07-18-2005, 04:21 PM | #623 |
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Again I ask that you trust me. I need to keep quiet about the 6pm vote until them so the creatures don't have time to plan. Or at least not as much as they do now. It will make sense at 6 I promise. (Well at least make sense to me, I'm not sure anyone thinks I'm making sense )
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07-18-2005, 04:22 PM | #624 |
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Although I have to admit I like your idea of changing your vote at 6PM
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07-18-2005, 04:25 PM | #625 |
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What the hell. Since I'm a bandit....
I vote Masked |
07-18-2005, 04:48 PM | #626 |
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Eh, what the heck.
Vote Masked Thomkal, if it does turn out you were a creature today then consider me very amused at the lengths you went with this scheme. |
07-18-2005, 04:51 PM | #627 |
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Hoops,
If I was a creature and tried this do you think I'd survive past day 1 of any future werewolf game? I don't and I want to play again. |
07-18-2005, 04:59 PM | #628 | |
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That being said...I'm really uncertain of whether to trust you or not. I want to...I really want to, but I'm not sure. Is BrianD's vote to go with you a ploy? Is it to discredit you? Damn you BrianD!!! |
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07-18-2005, 05:00 PM | #629 | |
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07-18-2005, 05:02 PM | #630 |
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After thinking it over, I'm going to follow Thomkal. I'm not sure if he has the right target(s) in mind, but he is organizing us (which is sorely needed). I just hope we don't end up offing the doctor, because I think we're going to need him.
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07-18-2005, 05:16 PM | #631 |
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*Sigh*
I've lost a lot of faith in my fellow bandits. Only one vote (plus a crazy warlock). This part of the vote was more to tell me who trusted me than anything else, so the second part of my plan here still may work even though the answer to part one was: Not many. UNVOTE MASKED VOTE KINGFC22 I vote for King because he has been nearly non-existent in the thread and did not participate in my plan today. I think since he got pegged as the sorceror last time so early he might be lying low if he has an evil role this time. If he had a good role, I think he'd be less inclined to stay quiet. Now the idea here is to keep the vote tied or one vote away from tied until the 8pm deadline. If you are a bandit, or bandit friendly, I don't think you need any more explanation of why we want the keep a close vote. I do NOT want a tie vote though as that will keep them both in the game defeating the whole purpose of my plan. I think either are good suspects to vote out at the moment, either because of non-participation on Kings part, or the reasons detailed above for Masked. I suggest a late vote as well to give them less time to manuever. If a person decides not to vote at all, then I suspect a creature. I appreciate those who took the time to consider my wacky plan, and I repeat for the third time. I AM A BANDIT. We need to stick together and try to keep the creatures off balance as much as possible. |
07-18-2005, 05:18 PM | #632 |
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VOTE: JEEBER
Edit: This in response to RA's post below me. Im not telling yall anything you don't know when I say I don't have a firm grasp of whats going on but I can say this. For whatever reason Jeeber has stayed as below the radar as possible, and it bothers the hell out of me. I understand the plan, but at the same time I don't trust anyone at this point, I keep feeling like one more night will tell us something and I hope that after tonight we things are much clearer. Last edited by Suicane75 : 07-18-2005 at 05:27 PM. |
07-18-2005, 05:23 PM | #633 |
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Dammit. I really question your decision to vote for both Masked and kingfc22, based on the reasoning of past games. I think we should try to put that out of our minds at this point and concentrate on the game at hand. But kingfc22 only had a -2 on my scale (and didn't vote once). The other time that he "missed" a bandit was when he voted for JeeberD. I agree that if someone doesn't vote, I would suspect a creature, but suspect would be the operative word. I really think we need to come together tonight, but I don't agree kingfc22 is the right choice.
Vote JeeberD |
07-18-2005, 05:24 PM | #634 |
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Dola, please, please, please, Thomkal, make me change my mind. I want to believe you, but other than basing your vote on past games isn't enough for me to do it.
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07-18-2005, 05:27 PM | #635 |
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Yeah, I was hoping for something more substantial at the end. Cliff notes for your plan please . Jeeber looks the same as King and Masked to me. Are you saying you are going to accuse anyone that votes for Jeeber and not your boys?
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07-18-2005, 05:28 PM | #636 |
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I guess Vote King for now to keep those two even, but we'll see how long this lasts.
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07-18-2005, 05:29 PM | #637 |
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Raiders,
I've done all the convincing I can do. You either believe me but don't agree with my choices, or don't believe me. I voted for these people because Masked falls into the same type of player who fooled us before in werewolf games. I voted for King because i think his past werewolf behavior reflects on this game. I think the vote for Jeeber is a mistake at this point, because one of our revealed spies said he believed he was innocent. |
07-18-2005, 05:30 PM | #638 | |
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Point me to the post? |
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07-18-2005, 05:31 PM | #639 |
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The votes I'm curious about are JeeberD and TazFTW. I trust in my analysis of voting four times (100%) for an innocent. At least one of the three, JeeberD, TazFTW, and Thomkal is working with BrianD. I'm convinced of that fact.
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07-18-2005, 05:38 PM | #641 |
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I am looking for the post bear with me.
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07-18-2005, 05:41 PM | #642 | |
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I'm game for your plan, but just got home to read it. I am a bandit. Unfortunately, I've already used my kill as well |
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07-18-2005, 05:42 PM | #643 | ||
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07-18-2005, 05:44 PM | #644 |
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Coffee Warlord said he suspected Jeeber was not a threat after day one, but thought that Henry might be. Henry turned out to be a normal bandit.
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07-18-2005, 05:44 PM | #645 | |
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This is the post I was thinking of. Coffee was a Spy as we all know. Note he says I STILL do not believe Jeeber is a creature. He stated once before if someone else wants to find the post that means. After the vote on day 1 for Jeeber, it would have been a good move for a Spy to check Jeeber out. |
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07-18-2005, 05:44 PM | #646 | |
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Then again... Jesus. The other fact remains that Qwik voted for KevinNU7, so maybe he wasn't as good seeing??? |
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07-18-2005, 05:45 PM | #647 |
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Forgot to add, Coffee Warlord was a spy
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07-18-2005, 05:45 PM | #648 |
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Good enough for me. My apologies Thomkal.
Unvote JeeberD Vote kingfc22 |
07-18-2005, 05:47 PM | #649 |
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For self preservation
Vote kingfc22 |
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Hmmm, this plan ended up being something of a disappointment.
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