NBC: Heroes

[FrogMan]

a link to this Heroes wiki was showing at the top of my gmail page, interesting:
http://heroeswiki.com/Main_Page

FM

[jeff061]

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

I still think his mom wins that prize.

They've spent way to much time developing her. That's the problem there, not a whole hell of a lot has happened with her since the second episode.

[Toddzilla]

That is how NYC gets destroyed...Radiation Man makes it to New York and someone pops a cap in his ass...BOOM!

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by jeff061

They've spent way to much time developing her. That's the problem there, not a whole hell of a lot has happened with her since the second episode.

And her power sucks. She can't even use it.

[ISiddiqui]

Actually I wonder if now we'll actually see her power (I'm guessing super strength?) in more detail. Now that she seems to have totally given in to Jessica.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

He'll be a bit more than an "interesting side point", IMO. Remember when he was warning the cops about shooting him and saying he didn't know what would happen, like maybe a nuclear bomb going off (or something similar). It seems to me that the explosion isn't a 'nuke' in the traditional sense, but Skylar trying to slice open Sprague (with Sprague being royally pissed off). He's pure radioactive energy.



Not so fast, my friend. He seems to be a technopath, ie, he can control technology (there was an allusion to him fixing a motherboard earler in the series). That may be somewhat important, what with all the protected information on the internet and whatnot. He may also be able to channel it to listen in on sensitive phone conversations without a bug. Basically, he can be the ultimate spy using the wires.

Also, I'm sure that power, when corralled, can control any technology, like, say, cars or electical systems.

Agreed with both of these summations. I think Micah is going to be very important to the Heroes' success.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by KevinNU7

Holy shit! How did that happen!

I've never seen anything like that happen from board lag, which would make it seem like you posted all of those messages on purpose. If it was really an accident, I'm sure you could delete them.

[TazFTW]

Cool, my Micah = Forge prediction looks to be true.

[KevinNU7]

Yes, apparently I suddenly decided I wanted to start padding my posts for the first time every on this message board.

Obviously there was some technicial issue going on last night. Apparently the MODs took care of it last night no biggy.

Figured I'd atleast get some benefit on the doubt though. Kind of disappointed about that.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I've never seen anything like that happen from board lag, which would make it seem like you posted all of those messages on purpose. If it was really an accident, I'm sure you could delete them.

There was one time where I had a really odd board bug where it seemed to accept my messages, but they weren't showing up in the thread listing. I wound up posting the same thing three or four times as a consequence. Once I managed to get an updated thread listing, I deleted the extras to limit the damage.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

There was one time where I had a really odd board bug where it seemed to accept my messages, but they weren't showing up in the thread listing. I wound up posting the same thing three or four times as a consequence. Once I managed to get an updated thread listing, I deleted the extras to limit the damage.

Yeah, I've seen that before. I've never seen 10 or 12 messages in a row that each had only one word added to the previous message. That must have been one very precisely timed board bug that Kevin experienced the other night.

[ISiddiqui]

Maybe it's Kevin's superpower!

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Not so fast, my friend. He seems to be a technopath, ie, he can control technology (there was an allusion to him fixing a motherboard earler in the series). That may be somewhat important, what with all the protected information on the internet and whatnot. He may also be able to channel it to listen in on sensitive phone conversations without a bug. Basically, he can be the ultimate spy using the wires.

Also, I'm sure that power, when corralled, can control any technology, like, say, cars or electical systems.

Man, I thought I was a comic book geek.

[ISiddiqui]

I don't read comic books... I'm a sci-fi geek (though mostly 'soft' sci-fi)

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I don't read comic books... I'm a sci-fi geek (though mostly 'soft' sci-fi)

Ah, I'm more of a "soft" comic book geek...without the pot belly and fascination with packing boards and bags.

[ISiddiqui]

Do pardon me, but I don't think I've ever heard the term soft comic book. What does it mean?

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Yeah, I've seen that before. I've never seen 10 or 12 messages in a row that each had only one word added to the previous message. That must have been one very precisely timed board bug that Kevin experienced the other night.

Bingo

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Do pardon me, but I don't think I've ever heard the term soft comic book. What does it mean?

I'm a soft comic book geek. I don't necessarily consider myself hardcore because I don't bag and board all my comics and use rubber gloves to read them.

[ISiddiqui]

Ah, I see... I meant soft sci-fi in terms of exploring personal relationships and changes in society due to technology or futuristic settings, as opposed to hard sci-fi which deals more with the technology itself.

[Raiders Army]

Gotcha. That makes more sense than what was in my head.


Ummmm....don't quote that.

[Cringer]

I prefer hardcore porn over all of the above.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I was finally able to watch the latest episode this morning.

I thought it was good. Not as great as some of the others, but solid nonetheless. I don't understand some people's need to have the plot run at top speed and "secrets" revealed in each episode. A little bit of pacing, character development, and the like is all good.

I agree with the folks above that think that the radiation guy will likely be the "cause" of the nuclear explosion in NYC. I also agree that Micah's power will be huge.

I also agree that the acting is a bit uneven. Adrian Pasdar is great, however. I think he pulls the character off incredibly well and his speech about what he was supposed to do when he got there (I don't have a gun, I don't know karate) was excellent. As far as this show goes, his character is pretty complex and he's done a great job with it. Also, Ali Larter as Evil Ali (or Jessica) is also very, very good.

Next episode looks like a doozy...

[Honolulu_Blue]

Another thing. The different symbols are interesting. I could easily see it either being a division between "bad" and "good" or that the "marks" on the cop and radiation guy's necks are the beginning of the symbol manifesting itself somehow.

[Draft Dodger]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I also agree that the acting is a bit uneven. Adrian Pasdar is great, however. I think he pulls the character off incredibly well and his speech about what he was supposed to do when he got there (I don't have a gun, I don't know karate) was excellent. As far as this show goes, his character is pretty complex and he's done a great job with it. Also, Ali Larter as Evil Ali (or Jessica) is also very, very good.

as usual, you and I agree on everything except which hockey team is doomed for an eternity in hell. Pasdar and Larter are terrific. The cheerleader is pretty good too. Pasdar has that politician's "I-am-smiling-but-I-will-fuck-you-up" grin down pat.

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

Pasdar has that politician's "I-am-smiling-but-I-will-fuck-you-up" grin down pat.

especially in that sequence where Peter dropped in on the brunch with the newspaper guy. Seeing him talk between his teeth while not losing his smile at all was very, very much politician-like.

FM

[wade moore]

I think the only actors I have serious issues with are somewhat minor characters - the neighbor girl and the red-head friend of Ali Larter... those two, particularly the redhead, are just awful.

[TazFTW]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Yeah, I've seen that before. I've never seen 10 or 12 messages in a row that each had only one word added to the previous message. That must have been one very precisely timed board bug that Kevin experienced the other night.

It has happened again in the FM07 thread.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by wade moore

I think the only actors I have serious issues with are somewhat minor characters - the neighbor girl and the red-head friend of Ali Larter... those two, particularly the redhead, are just awful.

Agreed, though I find the neighbor girl more annoying. I haven't been all that impressed with the young doctor, but I am thinking that has more to do with the crappy dialogue he's forced to spew than the actor himself.

I like the cheerleader too. She pulls it off well. I also really like her mom for some reason. She has nailed every scene she's been in and seems like the ideal woman for a guy like Horn-Rimmed Glasses to marry (e.g., the perfect cover for his secret dealings and a woman who is so obsessed with her show dog and the like that she really wouldn't question or notice any oddness).

[Eaglesfan27]

The red head friend of Ali easily wins my award as worst actress. She grates on my nerves when she is in scenes and is the only one I find painful to watch.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

The red head friend of Ali easily wins my award as worst actress. She grates on my nerves when she is in scenes and is the only one I find painful to watch.

Yup.. the scene where she runs aware scared of Jessica is just.... UGH UGH UGH!

[KevinNU7]

I wonder if that is the mark of the mind eraser

[KevinNU7]

Bingo

[Coop]

ouch girl got owned hard

[KevinNU7]

So prediction for next week; they save the cheerleader but still don't find out how that saves the world

[Izulde]

Hiro is so going to hook up with that waitress.

Lot of stuff in this episode. HRG Guy is becoming more and more interesting and complex a character.

I happen to like neighbour girl a lot. I don't know why; I just do. I hate Nikki's redheaded friend too and I can't stand the cheerleader's mom.

A beaut of a cliffhanger for them to end on, too, with lots of good dangling ends.

The whole idea of the professor son's dreams is a fascinating one. Is it sourcing from the kid or is it the son himself?

Also, the family revelation in this episode causes me to think that the son must have some type of power too.

[Coop]

I dont like how everybody seems to have a power

[SFL Cat]

This show moves very sloooooooow.

[TRO]

Loved this episode.

I feel safe in saying HRG is on the good guy side of the fence but is certainly going to have dark leanings.

I got a kick out of the waitress.

Is Hiro's friend going to be stuck in an alternate timeline now?

One thing I'm not crazy about is how some cliff-hangers remain cliff-hangers for 2 weeks. Such as the Nikki storyline being skipped this week.

[ISiddiqui]

This was a great episode. I liked how HRG became more ambigious in his motives and I guess this one rules out that he controls Syler. He was willing to use force to get Issac painting. Though it seems Edan has some super powers of persuasion (or as stated on another board "Bene Gesserit powers").

The waitress was interesting in her powers. It was super memory, but then able to build on that memory to learn things she didn't know. Though even though it seemed Hiro went back in time, the waitress still got axed. Hiro's friend seems to be in the same timeline because the picture changed to include Hiro.

Another interesting thing pointed out on another board, the 'dream kid' was named Sanjog Iyer. If we take his first initial... S. Iyer. Looks somewhat close to Syler... though that could just be streaching things a biiit too far.

And everyone doesn't have a power. Gomer Pyle in the diner didn't have a power. Outside of Nathan and Peter, the Petrelli clan seemed unpowered. Of course the people they'll focus on have powers, but that's because it's a show called "Heroes" .

Oh, and interestingly, the HRG guy made reference to something going wrong 14 (or so years back) with an individual. I assumed he was refering to Syler and then HRG said that they had to take in Claire from the single mother. Is Claire Syler's daughter? Or did I mishear/interpret that?

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Though even though it seemed Hiro went back in time, the waitress still got axed. Hiro's friend seems to be in the same timeline because the picture changed to include Hiro.

Unless Hiro hasn't gone through enough time to prevent it yet? That may be a possiblity, imo, depending on how fast time moves in alternate timelines (if that makes any sense0

Another interesting thing pointed out on another board, the 'dream kid' was named Sanjog Iyer. If we take his first initial... S. Iyer. Looks somewhat close to Syler... though that could just be streaching things a biiit too far.

Not even close. Their physiques/heights are completely different. It'd require Syler to have shapeshifting abilities in addition to his telekinesis.

And everyone doesn't have a power. Gomer Pyle in the diner didn't have a power. Outside of Nathan and Peter, the Petrelli clan seemed unpowered. Of course the people they'll focus on have powers, but that's because it's a show called "Heroes" .

I agree. Ando doesn't seem to have a power either.

[/quote]Oh, and interestingly, the HRG guy made reference to something going wrong 14 (or so years back) with an individual. I assumed he was refering to Syler and then HRG said that they had to take in Claire from the single mother. Is Claire Syler's daughter? Or did I mishear/interpret that?[/quote]

It was 14 years ago, which would make Claire... 2? at the time. You may have heard right; I didn't quite catch all of it either. If Claire is in fact Sylar's daughter, that becomes an even more intriguing point, possibly an important one if Sylar himself has some sort of regenerative capability, albeit to a lesser extent than Claire's.

[Mr. Wednesday]

So far, Sylar has been shown to have telekinetic abilities; in this episode, he also appears to have done Hiro's stopping time trick, although (thanks to Peter) we can't be sure if that's an innate power or an assumed one.

I hadn't made the connection of Claire to Sylar, but it seems reasonable as proposed.

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by SFL Cat

This show moves very sloooooooow.

I think it's had the right amount of pacing so far, personally. A good story, particularly one as complex as this one, should take its time in the telling. It reveals enough each week and builds enough each week to keep things moving, but it doesn't commit the mistake of rushing revelations.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

So far, Sylar has been shown to have telekinetic abilities; in this episode, he also appears to have done Hiro's stopping time trick, although (thanks to Peter) we can't be sure if that's an innate power or an assumed one.

I hadn't made the connection of Claire to Sylar, but it seems reasonable as proposed.

Explain to me where you got this from? I never saw anything that indicated he stopped time, just his telekinetic powers.

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by Cringer

Explain to me where you got this from? I never saw anything that indicated he stopped time, just his telekinetic powers.

It'd explain how he was able to sneak in the back room to kill her without being spotted.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by Izulde

Not even close. Their physiques/heights are completely different. It'd require Syler to have shapeshifting abilities in addition to his telekinesis.

Just because the kid is a kid in Mohindar's dreams doesn't mean he currently is a kid. That could simply be his manifestation in those dreams. And who knows when the picture in the file was taken?

Not saying it is, but its an interesting name choice.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by Izulde

It'd explain how he was able to sneak in the back room to kill her without being spotted.

So would telekinesis . Which we have more proof that he has.

He hasn't taken Hiro's brain, so we can't be sure he has time travel powers yet.

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Just because the kid is a kid in Mohindar's dreams doesn't mean he currently is a kid. That could simply be his manifestation in those dreams. And who knows when the picture in the file was taken?

Not saying it is, but its an interesting name choice.

Good point, but then you run into the problem of why, assuming that the kid is a young version of Sylar, he would suddenly be manifesting himself in the Mohindar's dreams.

Is it a latent power that Mohindar himself doesn't realize he has? Sylar setting Mohindar up for a trap?

It's a fascinating theory and I didn't mean to sound so dismissive of it, so I apologize for that. I'm just exploring it a bit more now.

[ISiddiqui]

Though like I said, it IS a streach, but the name is very similar. It'll probably turn out that they picked a random Indian name and didn't realize how the first initial, last name was so similar to Sylar . Though I guess when you have a rabid internet fanbase, trivialities like this gain a far greater following than they were intended to.

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

So would telekinesis . Which we have more proof that he has.

He hasn't taken Hiro's brain, so we can't be sure he has time travel powers yet.

Point taken.

[kingfc22]

Previews for next week just gave me chills. Can't wait.