It's BACK! The 2005-2006 NHL Season

[bbor]

Originally Posted by Simms

Seriously? Yeesh.

I've always pictured him as a Flyer for some reason.

Big slow and ugly.....that's why he looks like a Flyer

[Draft Dodger]

Originally Posted by bbor

Prolly just a 3rd or 4th rounder,depending on what kinda season he has.

so, the Kings get him for free?

[bbor]

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

so, the Kings get him for free?

I would imagine so...or pretty close to free...i am sure there is cash involved.....perhaps Philly moves up in the draft and gets the better of the 2 3rd round picks?

Basically....futures is never much at all.

[TazFTW]

Hurricanes sign Oleg Tverdosky to a 3 year deal worth $7.5

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=132424

[TazFTW]

Originally Posted by riz

He is a good grinder and has a good attitude. He may not be a goal scorer but he gets a few of them as well and will be a pain to play against.

but but but I hate Ville Nieminen!

[TazFTW]

I'm reading a lot of Zetterberg and the Leafs with either the Leafs trading for him or putting him on an offer sheet.


The Rangers are interested in Tie Domi and Ziggy Palffy.

[Simms]

Zhamnov signs with Boston.

[TazFTW]

Originally Posted by Simms

Roenick to LA is official.

Kinda wondered how would Roenick get along with Hatcher. I would guess he would still be pissed that Hatcher broke his jaw in '99.

[Draft Dodger]

Originally Posted by TazFTW

The Rangers are interested in Tie Domi and Ziggy Palffy.

for different reasons, I presume

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by TazFTW

I'm reading a lot of Zetterberg and the Leafs with either the Leafs trading for him or putting him on an offer sheet.


The Rangers are interested in Tie Domi and Ziggy Palffy.

I hear it spun as a possible three-way deal involving Boston and Joe Thornton. With Thornton coming to Detroit. No idea where these are coming from.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by bbor

I would imagine so...or pretty close to free...i am sure there is cash involved.....perhaps Philly moves up in the draft and gets the better of the 2 3rd round picks?

Basically....futures is never much at all.

Free? Well, you get his big salary and loud, annoying ways. That doesn't sound free to me. Then again, I've always liked JR despite his loud, annoying ways.

[TazFTW]

Jason Allison is taking a physical...





in Buffalo.

[TazFTW]

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

for different reasons, I presume

Obviously. Palffy's the type of enforcer the Rangers covet.




Anywho, if the Rangers have signed Nieminen and eventually sign Domi. I think they should try to bring back Barnaby.

A Nieminen/Barnaby/Domi line would be the greatest thing invented. Cocky and Funny.

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by Pyser

thats good to know. malakhov would be a return trip, too. who is mcgillis? know the name, cant place him.

so:

stevens, white, rafalski, martin, malakhov, mcgillis.

phi is gonna whoop our ass this year.

Umm, do you know what you're talking about? That's a Top 10 defense, and you didn't even mention Hale!!! No true #1 guy, but damn lot of solid #3's in there.

[bbor]

ML just signed with the Kerry Fraser fan club

[Karim]

Dan McGillis - $8.4 million/2 years
Vladimir Malakhov - $7.2 million/2 years

I think Lou was a bit desperate after losing Niedermayer... Malakhov more than Hatcher or Rathje? McGillis more than Foote? Can you see McGillis getting $5.6 million pre-rollback?

[Draft Dodger]

wait a minute...

Dan McGillis gets 4.2 Million? Malakhov 3.6?
are you fucking kidding me?

[Karim]

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

wait a minute...

Dan McGillis gets 4.2 Million? Malakhov 3.6?
are you fucking kidding me?

Take a look...
http://www2.sportsnet.ca/nhl/free_agent_tracker.html

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by Karim

Dan McGillis - $8.4 million/2 years
Vladimir Malakhov - $7.2 million/2 years

I think Lou was a bit desperate after losing Niedermayer... Malakhov more than Hatcher or Rathje? McGillis more than Foote? Can you see McGillis getting $5.6 million pre-rollback?

McGillis, I at least understand how it could have happened -- there were a LOT of teams interested in him, so the bidding could have just gotten out of hand.

But Malakhov????

[TazFTW]

Chelios signs a 1 yr deal with Wings.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

McGillis, I at least understand how it could have happened -- there were a LOT of teams interested in him, so the bidding could have just gotten out of hand.

But Malakhov????

Wow. Dan McGillis isn't that good. That's way over paying. Same with Malakhov. I am surprised to see Lamoriello give out such generous sums.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by TazFTW

Chelios signs a 1 yr deal with Wings.

Wings also signed Johan Franzen a forward out of Sweden they drafted a couple years back.

[TazFTW]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=132439

Rangers sign Ville Nieminen and Jason Ward. First time I've seen Nieminen on one of the big sites and the first time I've heard Ward was being signed.

[Pyser]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

Umm, do you know what you're talking about? That's a Top 10 defense, and you didn't even mention Hale!!! No true #1 guy, but damn lot of solid #3's in there.

the devs D has potential, but overall, i think Philly will steamroll us. Stevens head is still a questionmark. White is a goon, 4th D at best. Martin and Hale are still quite young and have a ways to go. I like Rafalski, but he's not all that big. And neither are any of our fowards, really. Plus, Elias' health is still a question mark.

I love the Devs, but I'm worried.

[riz]

Originally Posted by Karim

Dan McGillis - $8.4 million/2 years
Vladimir Malakhov - $7.2 million/2 years

After seeing these figures, I'll just have to say this:

Someone has lost his mind and it isn't Glen Sather. Malik is a bargain at 2.5M compared to the above. Especially Malakhov....

[Wolfpack]

Originally Posted by bbor

Goon.....also known as a Crosby babysitter

[sachmo71]

Therien didn't exactly light the world on fire in his time with Dallas.

[TazFTW]

Alex Tanguay and Kurt Sauer have signed their qualifying offers.

[JeffR]

Originally Posted by riz

After seeing these figures, I'll just have to say this:

Someone has lost his mind and it isn't Glen Sather. Malik is a bargain at 2.5M compared to the above. Especially Malakhov....

I'd say "those numbers must be wrong", but they've been right every time I've said that so far. Lamoriello has really made a mess for himself. If you figure Rafalski got at least 3, that only leaves 12 million to sign Gomez, Elias, Friesen, White, Martin, Kozlov, Langenbrunner, Hale, Gionta, Brown, and a backup for Brodeur. Some of those guys are going to have to go.

Edit: it turns out Rafalski got 4.2 per. There could be some confusion between his deal and the one McGillis got. If they both got 4.2, ouch.

[ISiddiqui]

Knowing Lou, he has to have some sort of plan. I'm hoping those numbers aren't right for the D-men, but with Niedermeyer gone he probably did have to overpay a bit.

[RPI-Fan]

How do RFA's work? I see people talking about having to sign all their RFA's -- at this point aren't they supposed to be UFA's? Can someone walk me through this as I'm confused by the RFA's!

~rpi-fan

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Knowing Lou, he has to have some sort of plan. I'm hoping those numbers aren't right for the D-men, but with Niedermeyer gone he probably did have to overpay a bit.

It's looking more and more like Milbury plain old kicked Lou's butt this offseason (draft and free agency) for the first time in a long time.

[TazFTW]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

How do RFA's work? I see people talking about having to sign all their RFA's -- at this point aren't they supposed to be UFA's? Can someone walk me through this as I'm confused by the RFA's!

~rpi-fan

RFA's are restricted free agents. Teams had to give them a qualifying offer for the team to retain their rights. If they did not make a qualifying offer, the player would become a unrestricted free agent.

Players earning $660,000 or less will be entitled to qualifying offers (QO) at 110% of their prior year's salary; players earning more than $660,000 and up to $1 million will be entitled to QOs at 105% of prior year's salary; players earning more than $1 million will be entitled to QO at 100% of their prior year's salary.

[TazFTW]

Originally Posted by JeffR

Edit: it turns out Rafalski got 4.2 per. There could be some confusion between his deal and the one McGillis got. If they both got 4.2, ouch.

TSN had McGillis counting $1.1 million against the cap but now they've taken it down along with the numbers for Rafalski and Malakhov

[Joe Canadian]

Who are the expected UFA's next season?

[henry296]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

How do RFA's work? I see people talking about having to sign all their RFA's -- at this point aren't they supposed to be UFA's? Can someone walk me through this as I'm confused by the RFA's!

~rpi-fan

The comments on signing the RFAs is to sign them to long term contracts. I am not sure what happens if the player hasn't signed the qualifying offer yet. I would think until that happens they don't count against the cap.

[RPI-Fan]

Ah -- so pretty much all RFA's were qualified, and they'll only change teams if they can't reach long-term deals and teams don't want them for one season (and decide to trade them).

There won't be an exodus of RFA's hitting the market, since they've all arleady been qualified?

Thanks!
~rpi-fan

[henry296]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

Ah -- so pretty much all RFA's were qualified, and they'll only change teams if they can't reach long-term deals and teams don't want them for one season (and decide to trade them).

There won't be an exodus of RFA's hitting the market, since they've all arleady been qualified?

Thanks!
~rpi-fan

The other option is that another team can make them an offer but the losing team will receive draft pick compensation if they don't match the offer sheet.

[Draft Dodger]

Originally Posted by Joe Canadian

Who are the expected UFA's next season?

saw a list the other day, but can't find it, but probably a better crop than this year.

a couple I know off the top of my head: Thornton, Samsonov, Lidstrom (I think), Hejduk

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

{Massive Snip}

Man is this a long and rambling post. I don't even know if its coherent or makes sense. I shouldn't drink so much coffee.

Great post and what I've been screaming to happen in baseball for year. Unfortunately, for them, it's quite a bit further off, I fear.

That said, when you try to make this argument in baseball, all the Yankee, Boston, etc fans get all up in arms about how unfair and communist (?!? is that even an insult any more- nothing like making fun of a country where bread lines were "popular"- it's like beating up the handicap kid) the system would be.

SI

[JeffR]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

Ah -- so pretty much all RFA's were qualified, and they'll only change teams if they can't reach long-term deals and teams don't want them for one season (and decide to trade them).

There won't be an exodus of RFA's hitting the market, since they've all arleady been qualified?

That remains to be seen. The new CBA actually lowered the compensation (given in draft picks) teams have to give up for signing another team's RFA. Combined with the lower (well, theoretically) salaries because of the cap, that may make it plausible for teams to go after restricted players that are mid-level talents and are stuck with low qualifying offers.

There's been some talk, for example, that teams could really put pressure on the Flyers, even after the Roenick move, by offering deals to RFA's like Simon Gagne, Kim Johnsson and Robert Esche. Bob Clarke may not have the cap room to sign all of them if they can get deals in the $2-3 million range elsewhere. Esche, for one, has a qualifying number barely above the minimum salary; if another team offered him anything up to $2 million, all they'd have to give the Flyers is a second-round pick (assuming the Flyers don't match the offer, which they have the right to do.) Not a bad deal for a team that needs a goalie.

The RFA market is going to be interesting to watch in the next few weeks, once this feeding frenzy on the UFA's is done.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by TazFTW

TSN had McGillis counting $1.1 million against the cap but now they've taken it down along with the numbers for Rafalski and Malakhov

Perhaps they've gotten it all wrong then.

[sterlingice]

Wow. The season hasn't even started yet and this thread is already up to ~15th on the posts count for GD.

SI

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Free? Well, you get his big salary and loud, annoying ways. That doesn't sound free to me. Then again, I've always liked JR despite his loud, annoying ways.

Never have to go far for a sound bite for LA reporters. Considering how lazy the LA reporters can be, I guess that's a good thing.

SI

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Wow. The season hasn't even started yet and this thread is already up to ~15th on the posts count for GD.

SI

Heh! We are a small, but radbid following here! But during these last four days the NHL has been a mad house! A maaaaaaaad house!

[Swaggs]

Did Domi sign with the Pens?

[bbor]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Did Domi sign with the Pens?

I hope so....i like Tie......but i think he is over.

[Karim]

Oh, oh...

Mojo 640 in Toronto is reporting that the Toronto Maple Leafs have made a substancial offer to Detroit forward Henrik Zetterberg.

[JeffR]

Originally Posted by Karim

Oh, oh...

Mojo 640 in Toronto is reporting that the Toronto Maple Leafs have made a substancial offer to Detroit forward Henrik Zetterberg.

Offer to Zetterberg as an RFA, or offer to the Wings for Zetterberg?

[SoxWin]

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

saw a list the other day, but can't find it, but probably a better crop than this year.

a couple I know off the top of my head: Thornton, Samsonov, Lidstrom (I think), Hejduk

Jovo, Ohlund, tho both have expressed an interest in long term deals.

Edit. Lecavalier.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...31/?hub=Canada

Adding to the intrigue is that GMs have one eye on this year's crop and another on the 2006 free-agent list. Liberalized free agency kicks in next summer when players with eight years of NHL experience or anyone 29 and younger can qualify for unrestricted free agency if they're out of a contract.

The likes of Joe Thornton, Vincent Lecavalier, Jose Theodore, Ed Jovanovski, Wade Redden, Zdeno Chara, Sergei Samsonov, Jarome Iginla, Marty Turco, Ryan Smyth, Patrick Elias, Evgeni Nabokov, Chris Pronger and Patrick Marleau could all be available to the highest bidder next summer if they don't sign long-term deals in the interim -- a younger and more talented group than this year's list.

You can scratch Iginla and Pronger off that list