Alright, boyz!! Here we go...FM 2007 First Impressions

[Flasch186]

i dont understand something...I got the FM demo. I cant find WWSM to DL? Yet it shows up in my start menu and plays when clicked on but I dont remember buying it!! ??? wierd.

[AlexB]

Originally Posted by FrogMan

while I'm not playing the game much at this moment, I just saw that the data update with patch 7.0.2 have just been released over at www.sigames.com.

Here's the changelist:


FM

General
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- When a player on loan is transferred to a third team, his stats are now cleared down properly.


Contracts
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- Stopped lower level free agent and older players asking for 5 year deals


If the first one mean the problem of missing sections of player history has been solved, I might fire this game back up over the weekend...

[Pumpy Tudors]

As soon as the WWSM patch is out, there goes my life, I guess.

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by henry296

Quick question. I loaded too many leagues and my game is bit slower than I would like. Is there anything that I can do to reverse the situation. I'm in season 5 and attached to my team. We were promoted to League 1 in the second year and just missed a playoff spot in year 4.

Also, a couple of years ago signed a nice young left back for 10,000. He played 17 games for me. In the next off season my chairman accepted on offer that was too good to pass up, about 1.2Mm. The next offseason he moved to Chelsea for 22.5MM. During the July 1st move, I got a notice about receiving 5MM. I didn't remember that there was a 20% of next sale clause. My original 10,000 turned into over 6MM. Woohoo!!

theres a "saved game cleaner" that makes saved games run faster or smoother, you can find it in the editors forum at SI Interactive

[Toddzilla]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

theres a "saved game cleaner" that makes saved games run faster or smoother, you can find it in the editors forum at SI Interactive

The link over there seems to be dead - do you have the utility? Can you u/l it somewhere?

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by Toddzilla

The link over there seems to be dead - do you have the utility? Can you u/l it somewhere?

No, i just remembered seeing it there. i bet is you ask in that forum someone will point you in the right direction

[DaddyTorgo]

I think i have it. I'll check later tonight

[Easy Mac]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

As soon as the WWSM patch is out, there goes my life, I guess.

It is out

[Easy Mac]

Just so people know, Beckham is transferred to the Adelaide Galaxy and not the LA Galaxy

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Just so people know, Beckham is transferred to the Adelaide Galaxy and not the LA Galaxy

Supposedly, they'll have an updated version of the patch tomorrow to fix this. Also, it only affects people who have the Australian league selected.

[Easy Mac]

Anyone know why the MLS didn't show up for as a league that I could select after I edited the database? I only added 2 stadiums to MLS teams (that were already there but unassigned) and transferred Beckham to LA, and suddenly the only league available from North America is Mexico.

[daedalus]

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

When a board draw up a shortlist for feeder clubs they take into account situations and prioritise them accordingly - for instance smaller clubs are less likely to purchase foreign players and so will tend to find larger clubs from whom they can loan players, similarly if you're in a nation where work-permits at a big issue (and large enough to buy from abroad) then the board will look at ways around these problems ... (just common sense really).

Common sense as far as you and I sit and talk, obviously. On the other hand, you can about count the number of games that can remotely attempt "common sense" on one shop teacher's hand.

[Flasch186]

anyone know of a tutorial for downloading and installing graphics addons....The readme's are shite and now I have graphics files unzipped all over the place. some showing up, some not, but the tree and file structure has me completely confused. /Players/kits/db/eng......I dont have that stuff!! What is going on?

[Shepp]

I used the instructions from here to set up all of my graphics addons and its worked like a charm.

hxxp://www.fmgraphics.co.uk/index.ph...ews&news_id=17

Well im going to make this short and quick, it's really simple to put graphics into FM 07. With SI changing the format, it means you don't have to go around looking for the folders, instead you can put them in one place and just load them from there. So here goes:


Go into My Documents and locate the Sports Interactive/Football Manager 2007 folder.

*Secondly Create a folder called "Graphics".

*Inside this folder, you can either just paste everything you download into it, or sort them into the following, Logos, Facepacks, Kits & Others. Making it even easier for you to insert them.

*Then once you have put all the graphics into this folder, load up FM 07.

*Go into preferences and down the menu panel, you will find "Display & Sound" click on it.

*You will find the following options "Skin Cache" & "Always Reload Skin On Confirm".

*Untick the "Skin Cache" option.

*Tick the "Always Reload Skin On Confirm".

[Flasch186]

...thats helpful BUT the problem im having is when I unzip/extract some of the downloads it is also creating a tree structure too....can the game find /e2g_logo/premiership/myfriendsteveslogoset/bigpicture/smallpicture/arsenal for arsenal? Or does it need to be RIGHT there on top of the structure right after graphics?

[Shepp]

I don't know for certain but I don't think it matters what the directory structure looks like. So long as there is a corresponding config.xml file in the directory with the files that you are adding to the game.

My interpretation of the article I manetioned is that if you really wanted, you could just plop everything into just the graphics directory. The problem would be that you would have to created a unified config.xml file.

The file structure exists mainly to keep things modular and uncluttered.

[MrBigglesworth]

This is actually an '06 question but may apply to '07. I'm managing in England, it says that if a player is under the age of 24 and is not offered a contract greater than or equal to what he makes now that he can go on a free transfer. Do I have to offer a contract and have him turn it down to get paid if someone signs him?

[Marc Vaughan]

Originally Posted by MrBigglesworth

This is actually an '06 question but may apply to '07. I'm managing in England, it says that if a player is under the age of 24 and is not offered a contract greater than or equal to what he makes now that he can go on a free transfer. Do I have to offer a contract and have him turn it down to get paid if someone signs him?

Yes - strange but true.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

Yes - strange but true.

do what i do in those cases. offer him the absolute worst contract ever that you know there's no way in hell he'd ever accept.

[Marc Vaughan]

do what i do in those cases. offer him the absolute worst contract ever that you know there's no way in hell he'd ever accept.

But don't forget that it has to be at least as good as his current one ...

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

But don't forget that it has to be at least as good as his current one ...

right. but odds are if you want to keep him/if he's worth getting $$ back for, then he'll want a raise. but maybe that's just because I tend not to be a LLM so when this happens to me it's with guys who are 22-23 who are coming off their first deal and who if it's worth me getting anything back for them (read millions of dollars not like 350k) then they have the desire to play first-team football and get paid significantly more than their sub million-dollar salaries

[MrBigglesworth]

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

But don't forget that it has to be at least as good as his current one ...

Thanks! What is taken into account to decide if it is better, just the salary or the bonuses too?

[SirFozzie]

Just the salary.

[tucker rocky]

I purchased the WWSM about a week ago.

After simming 18 seasons, I finally get a job offer I want.
HC of New England of the MSL.

I simmed a bunch of seasons, to also rid most of the presently known players.

I seem to be doing ok, 3rd place, halfway into the season.
My board wants new, fresh players on the squad, so I've been busy weeding out the older, non-factor players, and bringing in some fresh younger players.

This is the job I really wanted, coaching one of the MSL teams.

[MrBug708]

How long did it take you to sim those seasons?

[tucker rocky]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

How long did it take you to sim those seasons?

About 4 days, letting it sim through the night, saving in the morning, then bringing it back up after coming home from work.

It would sim roughly 4 seasons during the night.

My job offer came on the weekend, when I could watch the open job offers.
When I saw the New England job open up, I immediately applied.

[Flasch186]

alright...

finally...

what a great DEMO, got me hooked. But now how do I go about purchasing the license and continuing my game without having to download the whole thing again?

Thsi especially sucks because I have the day off and cannot continue my career with the Silkmen until someone tells me how to register this thing

[Marc Vaughan]

what a great DEMO, got me hooked. But now how do I go about purchasing the license and continuing my game without having to download the whole thing again?

If you downloaded the 'try and buy' style demo then just enter your details and you're away - otherwise I'm afraid you'll either have to locate it in a store (or mail order) .... or download the purchasable version (apologies if this is the case).

[Flasch186]

grrr, ill bet i downloaded the NON try and buy version....

Will my save game work if I just move it over after buying the Try and Buy one (i just downloaded for 2 hours )

of course after uninstalling the other one....

[FrogMan]

wait, if you are playing with worldwide soccer manager 2007, it should be the try and buy as I don't think they put out a non try and buy demo for it.

However, if it's FM2007 that you are playing, you need to download WSM or buy a CD version of it...

FM

[FrogMan]

dola, and from everything I've read, savegames should be compatible between WSM and FM.

FM

[Flasch186]

im tellin' ya it WAS WWSM, and there is no elicense stuff going on at all on it. this is post patch, so perhaps thats something. Honestly though Im glad, my graphics folder was a disaster and the FMC graphic pack is a great, clean addition.

[bulletsponge]

somebody help me!

Im playing in the EPL and just got my first feeder club outside England so i can send people there that cant get a WP. how do i sign someone and send them there if i cant get a WP for them in my home country to begin with? is there an option to send them to the feeder immediatly after they agree to sign with me before they apply for a wp? or if they get turned down for a wp is there an option to send them to a feeder instead of having the contract voided?

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

somebody help me!

Im playing in the EPL and just got my first feeder club outside England so i can send people there that cant get a WP. how do i sign someone and send them there if i cant get a WP for them in my home country to begin with? is there an option to send them to the feeder immediatly after they agree to sign with me before they apply for a wp? or if they get turned down for a wp is there an option to send them to a feeder instead of having the contract voided?

the 2nd thing you said. You apply and it's turned down and then there should be an option (or maybe the option is after the appeal, I don't play in england so I dunno) to send them to your feeder team.

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

the 2nd thing you said. You apply and it's turned down and then there should be an option (or maybe the option is after the appeal, I don't play in england so I dunno) to send them to your feeder team.

ok thanks

[Easy Mac]

So one of the Marcs, any thoughts on opening up the game for customization, a la OOTP? I know we have an editor (which at least for WWSM, isn't nearly as fluid as the integrated one from previous years), but what about allowing us to create a custom league or two to play. I think you'd be amazed how much your fanbase would have fun with it. Even if they were just stock, pick a league structure that is similar to the English league and let us modify stuff from there, that would add so much more to the game.

And is there a reason, outside of a want for it and probably licensing, that you guys don't throw in the US A-league (edit, I refuse to call it the USL1 or 2) or colleges. I'd think the college league, though potentially difficult to model, would be a different kind of challenge that I think even the foreigners would enjoy. I don't think I'm alone in saying that I don't care if its even an unlicensed copy of it, I'm more than willing to mess with it on my own through the editor.

[Easy Mac]

Also, so people know, WWSM is the top selling sports computer game right now at Amazon.

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

the 2nd thing you said. You apply and it's turned down and then there should be an option (or maybe the option is after the appeal, I don't play in england so I dunno) to send them to your feeder team.

hmm i tried this, and the option to send them to the feeder never apeared after or during the appeal process.

Marc can you chime in and tell me whats going on. btw the feeder club is in cyprus id that has any bearing on it

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

hmm i tried this, and the option to send them to the feeder never apeared after or during the appeal process.

Marc can you chime in and tell me whats going on. btw the feeder club is in cyprus id that has any bearing on it

is the "work permit" thing specified in your agreement with the feeder club? likely not I'd guess. Which means you can't use it explicitly for that option (i would imagine you could still send the player over on loan afterwards for several years to get him nationality)

[klayman]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

hmm i tried this, and the option to send them to the feeder never apeared after or during the appeal process.

Marc can you chime in and tell me whats going on. btw the feeder club is in cyprus id that has any bearing on it

After the appeal is turned down, you still have the option of signing the player. If you choose to sign him, you can then send him to your feeder club the way you would normally send a player (realize of course that normal european transfer rules apply, ie. no transfers after January). Also realize that if the feeder club is not a high rep club the player might refuse to go depending on his perceived status. You therefore run the risk of signing a player that you might not be able to play or send to your affliate (although you might be able to loan him out to a WP nation by the normal loan means).

[henry296]

So I made the League One Final and two of my best players were called up for International Duty for some U-19 games. Do I have any recourse?

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by henry296

So I made the League One Final and two of my best players were called up for International Duty for some U-19 games. Do I have any recourse?

depends on if they're U-19 friendlies or what. If they're friendlies you can withdraw them from the team (under "friendly instructions"). otherwise...nope.

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

is the "work permit" thing specified in your agreement with the feeder club? likely not I'd guess. Which means you can't use it explicitly for that option (i would imagine you could still send the player over on loan afterwards for several years to get him nationality)

ahh ok i see that now. i need to get a feeder from belgium or poland then most likely to do the "go there for a few years and get a EU passport thingy"
damn that means my new Cyprus feeder isnt worth much. ill cancel it at the end of the year after my guys ive loaned there come back

[highfiveoh]

So I'm trying to download the WWSM Try and Buy. The download rate is bouncing from 0.0 to 9.0 kb/s and I imagine it's a peak time for a US customer being that UK/Europe people are going to bed. If I remember correctly they've had slow server issues for a long time. Would it really cost that much to upgrade things a little? It's just a very sour experience whenever I check their site out.

[Easy Mac]

Originally Posted by highfiveoh

So I'm trying to download the WWSM Try and Buy. The download rate is bouncing from 0.0 to 9.0 kb/s and I imagine it's a peak time for a US customer being that UK/Europe people are going to bed. If I remember correctly they've had slow server issues for a long time. Would it really cost that much to upgrade things a little? It's just a very sour experience whenever I check their site out.

I'm getting 60k using Free Download Manager, but yes, their site is ungodly slow.

[henry296]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

depends on if they're U-19 friendlies or what. If they're friendlies you can withdraw them from the team (under "friendly instructions"). otherwise...nope.

Thanks I was looking for that button. The games are U-19 European Qualifying.

[Easy Mac]

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

I'm getting 60k using Free Download Manager, but yes, their site is ungodly slow.

I now have 10 minutes left.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

ahh ok i see that now. i need to get a feeder from belgium or poland then most likely to do the "go there for a few years and get a EU passport thingy"
damn that means my new Cyprus feeder isnt worth much. ill cancel it at the end of the year after my guys ive loaned there come back

ah but be careful grasshopper. If you keep it (depending on who you are and how much it's draining your finances) you may end up with a future Cypriot player who is a candidate for Footballer of the Year that you miss out on picking up on the cheap.


i've got so many feeder clubs now that the board don't want to give me anymore. LOL

man my Juve game is coming along quite nicely. I have 4 (!) "Wonderkids" who I'm rotating at the striker position (well 2 have now lost the wonderkid tag due to performing so well, but the other 2 still have it). And I just got a new 4 year contract at 6 mil per year, with a 165 million dollar wage budget and a 160 million dollar kitty

[Toddzilla]

The other neat by-product of feeder clubs is merchandising cash. I got a feeder club from Japan which looked lousy since I only had an option on their players - all of whom stink - but a presence in Japan really pumped up the cash. I imagine a feeder club in the US, India or China would do the same thing.

[Toddzilla]

Quick feeder club question:

How often can you ask for one?