Its' Here! NHL 2008 Playoff Thread - Page 13

Dr. Sak · 04-30-2008, 08:35 PM

My heart cant take much more of this shit.

Pyser · 04-30-2008, 11:19 PM

man, these 2 round series suck.

Honolulu_Blue · 05-01-2008, 01:23 PM

Tough, tough breaks for the Avs all series. It's being reported that Forsberg is out tonight. As expected, Colorado will also be without Statsny, Smyth, and Woloski. That's 4 out of their top 6 forwards gone. Brutal.

The Wings need to put the Avs out of their misery tonight. No one else needs to get hurt and we don't need anyone getting healthy for games 5, 6 or 7.

As they say in "Mortal Kombat": FINISH THEM!

Draft Dodger · 05-01-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Tough, tough breaks for the Avs all series. It's being reported that Forsberg is out tonight. As expected, Colorado will also be without Statsny, Smyth, and Woloski. That's 4 out of their top 6 forwards gone. Brutal.

don't forget Svatos, who was 2nd on the team in goals.

Honolulu_Blue · 05-01-2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

don't forget Svatos, who was 2nd on the team in goals.

It's hard to keep track of the guys who didn't even get hurt during this series. At the moment, I can only think of two Avs, Sakic and Brunette, who would qualify as a top six forward.

Considering the number and significance of all these injuries, other than Game 2, the Avs have really put forth an impressive effort in this series.

Dr. Sak · 05-01-2008, 01:43 PM

I just wonder if we've seen the last of Peter Forsberg.

TazFTW · 05-01-2008, 07:38 PM

What kind of penalty shot was that?

Dr. Sak · 05-01-2008, 07:40 PM

A bad one.

Logan · 05-01-2008, 07:46 PM

I gotta say that a couple of the penalties called on the Pens (namely the last one on Prucha and the holding call on Letang) were pretty shitty.

TazFTW · 05-01-2008, 08:42 PM

lol at Gonchar vs Rosival

Logan · 05-01-2008, 08:46 PM

Stay classy Evgeni.

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lol at Gonchar vs Rosival

Rosy would've fucked him up if Gonchar wasn't being a bitch about taking his shield off.

Dr. Sak · 05-01-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

lol at Gonchar vs Rosival

They were really swinging their purses at each other.

TazFTW · 05-01-2008, 08:48 PM

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Hooray for competitive series.

Now I'm just hoping that

a) the Rangers don't get swept
b) someone destroys Hossa

a) Yay for game 5.
b) Not destroyed but a nice solid hit from Girardi that caused Crosby and Malkin to get penalties.

Greyroofoo · 05-01-2008, 11:34 PM

Will the real Colorado Avalanche, please sit down?

Honolulu_Blue · 05-01-2008, 11:49 PM

I think all of the injuries finally caught up with the Avs. Trying to beat a very good team without five out of your top six forwards is nearly impossible, especially when the very good team is playing as well as the Wings were tonight. They were really firing on all cylinders tonight. Perfect puck control, great passing, a solid performance all the way around. Zetterberg's goal where he was spinning around was just sick.

Not a bad night for Detroit sports. Tigers sweep the Yankees. Pistons finally knockoff the 76ers to advance to the second round. And the Wings sweep Colorado. Not too shabby...

Greyroofoo · 05-01-2008, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I think all of the injuries finally caught up with the Avs. Trying to beat a very good team without five out of your top six forwards is nearly impossible, especially when the very good team is playing as well as the Wings were tonight. They were really firing on all cylinders tonight. Perfect puck control, great passing, a solid performance all the way around. Zetterberg's goal where he was spinning around was just sick.

Not a bad night for Detroit sports. Tigers sweep the Yankees. Pistons finally knockoff the 76ers to advance to the second round. And the Wings sweep Colorado. Not too shabby...

I don't suppose you want to add that the Toledo Mud Hens advanced to a league best 18-9 for the day too.

Suburban Rhythm · 05-02-2008, 06:12 AM

I thought for sure there would be at least a page in this thread dedicated to Dan Girardi bitching to the ref after the call rewarding Malkin's PS. He was looking VERY Crosby-like there

Seriously, what was his issue? He had no stick and attempted (badly) to tackle or shove or I don't know what Malkin FROM BEHIND. That is a penalty shot, what is he crying about?

Dr. Sak · 05-02-2008, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

Seriously, what was his issue? He had no stick and attempted (badly) to tackle or shove or I don't know what Malkin FROM BEHIND. That is a penalty shot, what is he crying about?

Those were tears of laughter because he saw Crosby's "playoff beard". He either drew it on with a Sharpie, or glued a bunch of leg hair to his face.

Suburban Rhythm · 05-02-2008, 06:42 AM

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Those were tears of laughter because he saw Crosby's "playoff beard". He either drew it on with a Sharpie, or glued a bunch of leg hair to his face.

Just wait til he hits puberty

Dr. Sak · 05-02-2008, 07:30 AM

Can someone explain why Malkin got the penalty shot? Was it just because he was so far ahead of the Ranger defender when he was pushed from behind, because just thinking out loud, I see players get pushed all the time from others that don't have sticks. He didnt pull Malkin down either.

I'm not saying it was a bad call, I am just curious of the explanation.

Logan · 05-02-2008, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

I thought for sure there would be at least a page in this thread dedicated to Dan Girardi bitching to the ref after the call rewarding Malkin's PS. He was looking VERY Crosby-like there

Seriously, what was his issue? He had no stick and attempted (badly) to tackle or shove or I don't know what Malkin FROM BEHIND. That is a penalty shot, what is he crying about?

Should I be embarrassed or excited that my 6th d-man bitches on a level of the savior of the NHL? Girardi had the worst game of his career last night, so the bitching was probably frustration. That or he was trying to sell the ref that the puck didn't go in until after contact was made. I should say that it was his worst game until he rocked the hell out of Hossa. That made up for much of it.

Serious question...let's say Malkin went in on that breakaway as slow as he did the penalty shot, and Girardi caught up with him without his stick. Could he have legally used his hands to lift Malkin's stick, as if he had his stick to lift it?

Logan · 05-02-2008, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bsak16

Can someone explain why Malkin got the penalty shot? Was it just because he was so far ahead of the Ranger defender when he was pushed from behind, because just thinking out loud, I see players get pushed all the time from others that don't have sticks. He didnt pull Malkin down either.

I'm not saying it was a bad call, I am just curious of the explanation.

I think the rules with pushing are different on a breakaway. Emrick pretty much quoted the rule and it sounded like the right call. Girardi's push was enough to sorta push Malkin's feet out from underneath him for a second (of course, it still wasn't a slew foot).

Fidatelo · 05-02-2008, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Serious question...let's say Malkin went in on that breakaway as slow as he did the penalty shot, and Girardi caught up with him without his stick. Could he have legally used his hands to lift Malkin's stick, as if he had his stick to lift it?

No, that's a holding the stick penalty.

MikeVic · 05-02-2008, 08:42 AM

Did I see a Rangers player complain about the Pens being classless this morning?

Logan · 05-02-2008, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

No, that's a holding the stick penalty.

Even if he used his arm to lift the stick straight up, just as if his arm was a stick?

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

Did I see a Rangers player complain about the Pens being classless this morning?

Intent to injure - twice - is being classy?

MikeVic · 05-02-2008, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Even if he used his arm to lift the stick straight up, just as if his arm was a stick?

Intent to injure - twice - is being classy?

I think with the Avery Rule thing, I just found it funny that a Ranger player was saying another team is classless. I didn't see what he was talking about, that just stuck out to me.

I've talked to a couple of people that said they stopped watching the playoffs when they saw Avery do that goalie thing, because "it wasn't hockey." I haven't heard of a reaction like this to the event before... has anyone else talked to someone that said the same thing?

Suburban Rhythm · 05-02-2008, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Should I be embarrassed or excited that my 6th d-man bitches on a level of the savior of the NHL? Girardi had the worst game of his career last night, so the bitching was probably frustration. That or he was trying to sell the ref that the puck didn't go in until after contact was made. I should say that it was his worst game until he rocked the hell out of Hossa. That made up for much of it.

Serious question...let's say Malkin went in on that breakaway as slow as he did the penalty shot, and Girardi caught up with him without his stick. Could he have legally used his hands to lift Malkin's stick, as if he had his stick to lift it?

My guess is no, that would be a holding the stick penalty, wouldn't it? If he had been even with Malkin, I think the hit would have been OK.

So it's OK when you are a whiner, if you are a depth defensemen (which I thought his pairing was the "shutdown" pair anyway)?

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Originally Posted by Logan

I think the rules with pushing are different on a breakaway. Emrick pretty much quoted the rule and it sounded like the right call. Girardi's push was enough to sorta push Malkin's feet out from underneath him for a second (of course, it still wasn't a slew foot).

Continuing from above, he had a step on Girardi. And Girardi made no play on the puck. Penalty shot.

Logan · 05-02-2008, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

So it's OK when you are a whiner, if you are a depth defensemen (which I thought his pairing was the "shutdown" pair anyway)?

No, no one cares if you're a whiner when you're a depth defenseman. People care if you're a whiner when you are the face of the NHL and the "casual fan" the league is trying to pull in laugh that this guy is our league's savior.

And Girardi is a nice defenseman but in no way is he a shutdown guy. His job isn't guaranteed for next season.

Suburban Rhythm · 05-02-2008, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Even if he used his arm to lift the stick straight up, just as if his arm was a stick?

Intent to injure - twice - is being classy?

The second he put his hands on Malkin's stick (that sounds dirty!) it SHOULD be a penalty, doesn't mean it would be called. There was a Pens game this year, blanking on the game, but it was questioned whether if a player dropped his stick, could a player from the opposing team pick up his stick and use it, and they felt it would be an unsportsmanlike call. Granted, this was the two nitwits on FSN Pittsburgh, so who knows it that is right. But I'd think they could also call something like that on Girardi in that case-- he still wouldn't be playing the puck.

Suburban Rhythm · 05-02-2008, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

No, no one cares if you're a whiner when you're a depth defenseman. People care if you're a whiner when you are the face of the NHL and the "casual fan" the league is trying to pull in laugh that this guy is our league's savior.

And Girardi is a nice defenseman but in no way is he a shutdown guy. His job isn't guaranteed for next season.

Oh I get that, that Crosby is the face of the NHL. But Girardi made a desparation play, but it turned out to be a good penalty. Don't get up and pretend you did nothing wrong. I didn't see Crosby yapping when he and Malkin took the roughing calls.

MikeVic · 05-02-2008, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

No, no one cares if you're a whiner when you're a depth defenseman. People care if you're a whiner when you are the face of the NHL and the "casual fan" the league is trying to pull in laugh that this guy is our league's savior.

And Girardi is a nice defenseman but in no way is he a shutdown guy. His job isn't guaranteed for next season.

Almost every soccer player in history is a whiner, and that sport is doing fine.

I actually started not liking soccer because of all the diving and horrible officiating. Hockey seems to be going down that road more, and I don't like it.

Fidatelo · 05-02-2008, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Even if he used his arm to lift the stick straight up, just as if his arm was a stick?

My understanding would be yes, that's still a penalty. You aren't really supposed to use your arms for anything other than holding your own stick (or I guess deflecting the puck). If you have no stick you need to shoulder check. This is why, if you watch closely, a guy can 2-hand cross check an opponent in the back 15 times in front of the net, but as soon as he takes one of his hands off his stick and gets his free arm on the guy, he gets a penalty.

Logan · 05-02-2008, 10:57 AM

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Oh I get that, that Crosby is the face of the NHL. But Girardi made a desparation play, but it turned out to be a good penalty. Don't get up and pretend you did nothing wrong. I didn't see Crosby yapping when he and Malkin took the roughing calls.

My point was that there's a difference between complaining about a penalty and the other transgressions that people believe Crosby is responsible for.

Maple Leafs · 05-02-2008, 01:35 PM

Breaking news from Ottawa... a full scale brawl broke out at today's Senators practice. Got pretty ugly.

Fidatelo · 05-02-2008, 01:42 PM

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Breaking news from Ottawa... a full scale brawl broke out at today's Senators practice. Got pretty ugly.

Are you sure? I thought I saw Wendel Clarke in there...

MikeVic · 05-02-2008, 02:34 PM

So...

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...parisza01.html

Where's your Scott Gomez sponsoring??

Dr. Sak · 05-02-2008, 02:35 PM

Or better yet...Colin White?

Fidatelo · 05-02-2008, 02:45 PM

Hey you Devils fans... did Travis Zajac play in the Rangers series? I didn't see him during the game I was at, and didn't get to see any other games.

If he didn't play, why not?

Logan · 05-02-2008, 02:49 PM

Pretty sure he played, not a ton though.

Pyser · 05-02-2008, 03:00 PM

he played. that pretty much sums up his entire 2nd season.

sabotai · 05-03-2008, 08:58 PM

Flyers close it out 4 games to 1. Their series with the Pens will be a good one.

Dr. Sak · 05-03-2008, 09:11 PM

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Flyers close it out 4 games to 1. Their series with the Pens will be a good one.

I just got game 4 tickets in Philly. I'll finally get to go to a Pens/Flyers game where i am not outnumbered 10,000 to 1.

Suburban Rhythm · 05-03-2008, 09:36 PM

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I just got game 4 tickets in Philly. I'll finally get to go to a Pens/Flyers game where i am not outnumbered 10,000 to 1.

What if the Pens win it in 3?

Dr. Sak · 05-03-2008, 09:51 PM

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What if the Pens win it in 3?

Ha!

Did you see Umberger's first goal today? Pretty sweet!

EagleFan · 05-03-2008, 11:29 PM

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Ha!

Did you see Umberger's first goal today? Pretty sweet!

That was very nice. Great way to finish it off tonight, coming back from 3-1 down.

Just finished watching the game actually. My oldest daughter had her dance recital tonight so I had to DVR it and avoid anything that may give away the results. My sister almost ruined it thouh with her call "We're listening to the Flyers game on the way home..." "Stop!!!! Tell me nothing!!!"

Logan · 05-04-2008, 01:55 AM

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Flyers close it out 4 games to 1. Their series with the Pens will be a good one.

I'm really not a homer, but I truly think the Rangers will come back and win the series.

sabotai · 05-04-2008, 11:37 AM

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I'm really not a homer, but I truly think the Rangers will come back and win the series.

You're right, you're not a homer. That kind of belief goes WAY beyond simple homerism.

Pumpy Tudors · 05-04-2008, 12:01 PM

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So...

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...parisza01.html

Where's your Scott Gomez sponsoring??

Doh! I didn't even do that. Someone I know up in Alberta (I think) did that for me. That was good forward thinking on his part, though.

MikeVic · 05-04-2008, 02:27 PM

So... that's not a penalty shot because he was kinda even with a Ranger or something? I don't know?

Logan · 05-04-2008, 02:51 PM

It wasn't a breakaway.

And not a good start at all. Absolutely no offensive game.

05-01-2008, 01:23 PM	#603
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Tough, tough breaks for the Avs all series. It's being reported that Forsberg is out tonight. As expected, Colorado will also be without Statsny, Smyth, and Woloski. That's 4 out of their top 6 forwards gone. Brutal. The Wings need to put the Avs out of their misery tonight. No one else needs to get hurt and we don't need anyone getting healthy for games 5, 6 or 7. As they say in "Mortal Kombat": FINISH THEM! __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

05-01-2008, 07:38 PM	#607
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	What kind of penalty shot was that? __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

05-01-2008, 08:42 PM	#610
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	lol at Gonchar vs Rosival __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

05-01-2008, 11:49 PM	#615
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	I think all of the injuries finally caught up with the Avs. Trying to beat a very good team without five out of your top six forwards is nearly impossible, especially when the very good team is playing as well as the Wings were tonight. They were really firing on all cylinders tonight. Perfect puck control, great passing, a solid performance all the way around. Zetterberg's goal where he was spinning around was just sick. Not a bad night for Detroit sports. Tigers sweep the Yankees. Pistons finally knockoff the 76ers to advance to the second round. And the Wings sweep Colorado. Not too shabby... __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

05-02-2008, 06:12 AM	#617
Suburban Rhythm Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pittsburgh	I thought for sure there would be at least a page in this thread dedicated to Dan Girardi bitching to the ref after the call rewarding Malkin's PS. He was looking VERY Crosby-like there Seriously, what was his issue? He had no stick and attempted (badly) to tackle or shove or I don't know what Malkin FROM BEHIND. That is a penalty shot, what is he crying about? __________________ "Do you guys play fast tempos with odd time signatures?" "Yeah" "Cool!!"

04-30-2008, 08:35 PM	#601
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	My heart cant take much more of this shit.

04-30-2008, 11:19 PM	#602
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	man, these 2 round series suck.

05-01-2008, 01:43 PM	#606
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	I just wonder if we've seen the last of Peter Forsberg.

05-01-2008, 07:40 PM	#608
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	A bad one.

05-01-2008, 07:46 PM	#609
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	I gotta say that a couple of the penalties called on the Pens (namely the last one on Prucha and the holding call on Letang) were pretty shitty.

05-01-2008, 11:34 PM	#614
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	Will the real Colorado Avalanche, please sit down?

05-02-2008, 07:30 AM	#620
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Can someone explain why Malkin got the penalty shot? Was it just because he was so far ahead of the Ranger defender when he was pushed from behind, because just thinking out loud, I see players get pushed all the time from others that don't have sticks. He didnt pull Malkin down either. I'm not saying it was a bad call, I am just curious of the explanation.

05-02-2008, 08:42 AM	#624
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Did I see a Rangers player complain about the Pens being classless this morning?

05-02-2008, 01:35 PM	#634
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Breaking news from Ottawa... a full scale brawl broke out at today's Senators practice. Got pretty ugly. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

05-02-2008, 02:34 PM	#636
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	So... http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...parisza01.html Where's your Scott Gomez sponsoring??

05-02-2008, 02:35 PM	#637
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Or better yet...Colin White?

05-02-2008, 02:45 PM	#638
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	Hey you Devils fans... did Travis Zajac play in the Rangers series? I didn't see him during the game I was at, and didn't get to see any other games. If he didn't play, why not? __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

05-02-2008, 02:49 PM	#639
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Pretty sure he played, not a ton though.

05-02-2008, 03:00 PM	#640
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	he played. that pretty much sums up his entire 2nd season.

05-03-2008, 08:58 PM	#641
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Flyers close it out 4 games to 1. Their series with the Pens will be a good one.

05-04-2008, 02:27 PM	#649
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	So... that's not a penalty shot because he was kinda even with a Ranger or something? I don't know?

05-04-2008, 02:51 PM	#650
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	It wasn't a breakaway. And not a good start at all. Absolutely no offensive game.

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