College Football Week 14 (Conference Championship Week) discussion

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Logan

Yeah, I mentioned that a few posts above.

We'll probably bring 3000 fans to Toronto.

Yeah, not surprised. The Big East has made sure that only 1 team will travel well this bowl season.

[tarcone]

I love that Boise/TCU matchup. but its kind of a slap in their face in my opinion, if it comes true.

BCS selectors in secret meeting. "What are we going to do fellas? TCU and Boise are undefeated and the fans want a playoff. But then we lose our jobs. Wait, i know. Make them play each other. That gets rid of one of the undefeated teams and they dont beat a team from one of our conferences."

[Jon]

Originally Posted by Logan

Yeah, I mentioned that a few posts above.

We'll probably bring 3000 fans to Toronto.

Yeah. You going to that game? I'm not. I'd reserved tickets to the St. Pete's bowl just because it was easy to make a long weekend out of it (and everything would've been taken care of). Toronto, we just can't do.

[miked]

Originally Posted by Logan

I can't blame them. Like I said, if we're not playing in a bowl game that "means something" (BCS or to a lesser extent Gator) I want to play in an interesting matchup and there's no juice in a Rutgers - UNC game for either set of fans. Miami-RU would've been fun.

There is still a huge difference between playing UNC/USC in the South for a bowl, than playing some shit MAC team in a cold place on New Year's day. I mean, I had some friends drive up from NJ last time they went, but it was only a few and they said it was miserable. So now, we've played a bunch of bowls against a bunch of shit teams, except maybe NCSU last season, but they are fairly mediocre (like us!!). Stomping these shit teams in shit bowls doesn't help one bit.

[Jon]

The Star Ledger is now reporting that Rutgers is likely headed to the St. Petersburg Bowl, which means, given the Star Ledger's credibility, means we're likely going to Toronto.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Jon

Yeah. You going to that game? I'm not. I'd reserved tickets to the St. Pete's bowl just because it was easy to make a long weekend out of it (and everything would've been taken care of). Toronto, we just can't do.

Nah I'm not heading up there. I have no interest in disrupting my NYE hangover early to head up to Canada for this game of all games.

[Logan]

Ha, yeah looks like St. Pete's vs UCF is done. That's gonna be a tough game.

Game is on the friggin 19th, not much time to plan.

[Swaggs]

I wish the Big East would get a football commisioner.

It is amazing that the football side has had any success with the basketball bunch running things. We can find room for DePaul and Marquette in all sports, but there is no room for a school who could balance out the football side like Memphis, ECU, or UCF because that would make the conference too big.

I'd hate to lose Madison Square Garden for the Finals, but I'm looking more and more forward to a split between the football and basketball schools. I think a basketball league of UConn, Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, WVU, Rutgers, Cincy, USF, Memphis, and UCF would easily be capable of consistently getting 4-6 NCAA teams.

[Logan]

It'll happen soon Swaggs, as long as one of the teams doesn't make the Big 10 jump before it can get done.

Seeing Tranghese leave (finally!) only to have him be replaced by another stooge from Providence signaled the need for the end.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

So Urban Meier checked hmself into the hospital, suffering from dehydration?

I guess he didn't get that Gatorade bath he was expecting...

[Eaglesfan27]

USC is reportedly going to the Emerald Bowl, likely vs Boston College

[Big Fo]

Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

So Urban Meier checked hmself into the hospital, suffering from dehydration?

I guess he didn't get that Gatorade bath he was expecting...

Maybe he lost a bunch of water crying with Tebow.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Big Fo

Maybe he lost a bunch of water crying with Tebow.

No, he lost a bunch of water hitting the bottle after realizing he was going to lose Tebow.

[Logan]

No, he was crying because he finally realized his offense is too faggoty for the SEC!

[MJ4H]

Arkansas vs. East Carolina in Liberty Bowl is official now.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

USC is reportedly going to the Emerald Bowl, likely vs Boston College

That's nuts.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Logan

Ha, yeah looks like St. Pete's vs UCF is done. That's gonna be a tough game.

Game is on the friggin 19th, not much time to plan.

Confirmed.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

That's nuts.

intentional? If so well played.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

No, he lost a bunch of water hitting the bottle after realizing he was going to lose Tebow.

I figured it was hitting the bottle after that game, yeah. Although I'm not sure where the bright line is between dehydration and alcohol poisoning, so there is that.

[Noop]

Priceless

[Cuckoo]

OU against Stanford in the Sun Bowl. I'm sure the players would've rather been in the Alamo Bowl in San Antonio, and I would've rather seen them get a Big 10 opponent. But this one could be interesting. OU has an excellent run defense, and I'll be extremely curious to see if they can hold down Gerhart.

[kcchief19]

Missouri vs. Navy in the Texas Bowl. Good matchup and it's in Texas so I'll take it over Insight Bowl in Arizona and I also prefer the 2:30 start if you have to play on New Year's Eve. But it's always hard to root against service academies.

Still seeing a lot of confusion over the BCS bowl selection process. If Alabama ends up No. 1 in the BCS the selection process is Sugar, Fiesta, Orange, Fiesta and Sugar.

Sugar will take Florida and I think Fiesta will take TCU. Who does Orange take to play Georgia Tech? The eligible teams for selection are Boise, Cincinnati, Iowa, Penn State, BYU or Virginia Tech. I really don't know. My bet is on Iowa. That leaves Fiesta next and I think they take Cincinnati for an undefeated matchup. I think Boise gets the Sugar.

If Orange goes for Boise or Cincy, then Fiesta probably takes the other. If Sugar doesn't have Boise or Cincy, I wouldn't be surprised to see Florida-Penn State.

[Young Drachma]

B.C.S. Bowl Matchups - The Quad Blog - NYTimes.com

The announcements don’t come until later tonight when we have to endure Fox’s coverage for unveiling the B.C.S. bowls for the final time. But after talking to numerous sources around college football today, I’ve come up with a bowl lineup.

It includes the matchup that will generate the biggest buzz of the bowl season outside of the national title game, a matchup of undefeated T.C.U. and Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl. It’s a shocking pick in many regards, as bowl games featuring non-B.C.S. teams rate historically low. The two teams also played last year in the Poinsettia Bowl, drawing a 3.7 rating. There were 14 bowl games rated higher. (T.C.U. won, 34,628 people attended. I watched and rather enjoyed it.)

It appears there will be two ratings clunkers, as T.C.U. and Boise have small fan bases and no tradition of rating well. Georgia Tech and Iowa isn’t exactly a scintillating matchup for TV either.

Here are the B.C.S. games. We’ll have a full lineup later when all this mess is sorted out.

Bowl Championship Series title game (Jan. 7)

Texas vs. Alabama

Orange Bowl (Jan. 5)

Georgia Tech vs. Iowa

Fiesta Bowl (Jan. 4)

Texas Christian vs. Boise State

Sugar Bowl (Jan. 1)

Florida vs. Cincinnati

Rose Bowl (Jan. 1)

Ohio State vs. Oregon

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

This game sucks. What was supposed to be a great day of football is turning out to be a shitting day of football. Other than Pitt and Cinci....

Granted I missed the SEC CG and 1st half of the B12 CG because I went to a hockey game, but what I saw was fantastic. Great simultaneous finishes both early with Cincy-Pitt and Houston-ECU then late with Texas-Nebraska and GT-Clemson.

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

AP Poll released

* Others receiving votes: East Carolina 53, Houston 50, Texas Tech 44, Northwestern 35, Clemson 31, California 14, Mississippi 14, USC 8, Oklahoma 7, North Carolina 7, Tennessee 6, Missouri 4, Montana 1, Georgia 1

I know they want to be cute and all, but they're probably the worst team left in FCS, particularly if you discount the App St games before Edwards returned. Villanova might actually deserve top 25 consideration with a win @Temple on the resume - they're actually #36 in the Sagarin ratings.

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I wish the Big East would get a football commisioner.

I'd hate to lose Madison Square Garden for the Finals, but I'm looking more and more forward to a split between the football and basketball schools. I think a basketball league of UConn, Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, WVU, Rutgers, Cincy, USF, Memphis, and UCF would easily be capable of consistently getting 4-6 NCAA teams.

Once you're at 10, why not go all the way to 12 and get that conference championship game... Temple (again) and UMass?

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Cincinnati will have 3 ranked wins, including 2 on the road. Texas will have 1 against a team that was without their best player. The Big East is a tougher conference in my opinion and their OOC was much tougher than Texas' creampuff one. Cincinnati has more big wins against better schools than Texas and I believe that is important.

You keep railing against voters, yet using them to support Cincy having big wins. If you go by the Sagarin ratings that use scoring margin Texas is 2, Oklahoma 5, Nebraska 9 and Cincy 12.

Cincy's had a great season, and would have been screwed anyways, but after their performances in the national spotlight let's not pretend they're a better team than Texas. If anything it's TCU that has been firing on all cylinders lately.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud's NYT article

It includes the matchup that will generate the biggest buzz of the bowl season outside of the national title game, a matchup of undefeated T.C.U. and Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl.

It won't generate the biggest buzz. TCU playing a name team would. Boise St playing a name team would. Those two matching up against each other will be an enjoyable game, but it won't generate any more buzz than last's years matchup did and it won't answer any of the questions people have. I hope these guesses are wrong and the Fiesta picks one fanbase that travels well so those two are split.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Tennessee vs ACC opponent in the Peach per UTSports.com (official school site)

Knoxville News-Sentinel reporting they will face Va Tech.

[Young Drachma]

Just you all wait. Next year, we get another Bowl in the form of the Yankee Bowl in NYC.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Just you all wait. Next year, we get another Bowl in the form of the Yankee Bowl in NYC.

Amazingly, I'm looking forward to this one.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Logan

Amazingly, I'm looking forward to this one.

Me too. Mostly because of the venue. I mean, if Boise can host a bowl...why not NYC.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Just you all wait. Next year, we get another Bowl in the form of the Yankee Bowl in NYC.

seriously?

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Lathum

seriously?

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/sport...-62881252.html

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4517004

[k0ruptr]

I'm seriously pissed that boise is gonna play fuckin TCU, I fucking know all the big teams just didn't wanna play either one of them, thats such bullshit. pussys

[k0ruptr]

Dola, I'd rather see Boise get a shot at Florida, and TCU a shot at someone else decent, because this game isn't gonna prove shit.

[Lathum]

You have got to be fucking kidding me. They aren't starting the BCS show until 5:30 so they can show Seahawks gameday. Horrible.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by k0ruptr

I'm seriously pissed that boise is gonna play fuckin TCU, I fucking know all the big teams just didn't wanna play either one of them, thats such bullshit. pussys

That has nothing to do with it. It's the way the Bowls pick. The teams really don't have any say in who they play.

[MrBug708]

It will prove which mid major doesnt below

[Neuqua]

NIU vs. USF in the International Bowl, GO Huskies!

[k0ruptr]

Originally Posted by Atocep

That has nothing to do with it. It's the way the Bowls pick. The teams really don't have any say in who they play.

I know that. I'm not dumb , I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised at all if politics and money had something to do with it. I guess I meant more in the fact that the people in charge of the bcs don't wanna see Boise or TCU beat any of the big schools, I'm willing to bet that they have more than a little pull in placing the teams, and its not all the way the bowls pick.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Atocep

That has nothing to do with it. It's the way the Bowls pick. The teams really don't have any say in who they play.

Yup. Another reason why the BCS system is a pile of crap in particular AFTER it does its primary job of setting up #1 and #2. Because after that, the bowls do the picking, and they're only concerned with money. I don't have a problem with the bowls doing what makes sense for them economically, it's just disappointing as a college football fan that the system is set up to make money the primary consideration for bowl destinations instead of on field merit.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by k0ruptr

I know that. I'm not dumb , I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised at all if politics and money had something to do with it. I guess I meant more in the fact that the people in charge of the bcs don't wanna see Boise or TCU beat any of the big schools, I'm willing to bet that they have more than a little pull in placing the teams, and its not all the way the bowls pick.

I hope your tinfoil hat fits well. You really think bowl organizers are going to agree behind closed doors to have the worst rated bowl in the history of the BCS simply to cover for the BCS conferences?

[Lathum]

wow. Fiesta Bowl will get terrible ratings, amazing, just amazing.

[Lathum]

Lou Holtz nailed it, this matchup proves nothing. Totally screws the small conferences and doesn't give them a chance to show they belong with the big boys.

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by Lathum

wow. Fiesta Bowl will get terrible ratings, amazing, just amazing.

It sucks. I feel really bad for TCU and Boise State (and Cincy).

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Cincy's had a great season, and would have been screwed anyways, but after their performances in the national spotlight let's not pretend they're a better team than Texas. If anything it's TCU that has been firing on all cylinders lately.

They beat a highly ranked team on the road in a huge game. Not sure how that performance made them look bad.

And I agree, TCU is firing on all cylinders. They are the 2nd best team in the country but can't qualify. Would have been fun to see those defenses battle it out.

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by Atocep

I hope your tinfoil hat fits well. You really think bowl organizers are going to agree behind closed doors to have the worst rated bowl in the history of the BCS simply to cover for the BCS conferences?

They're getting paid regardless (the bowl).

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

It sucks. I feel really bad for TCU and Boise State (and Cincy).

Cincy is the real victim in all this. do away with silly preseason rankings and they are playing for the title. Texas has an insanely weak schedule.

Either way, any system that doesn't allow an undefeated team to play for a title is deeply flawed.


The college football powers pimp the whole "every week is a playoff" concept. Really, because last I checked when a team doesn't lose in the playoffs they win the title.

[RainMaker]

The last 3-4 pages of this thread show how pathetic the system is. Everyone is arguing about what schools draw better ratings and can send the most fans to a consolation game. Which schools a sponsor would prefer. Very little about what teams actually do on the field.

[Young Drachma]

At least TCU and Boise State are playing in a BCS game this year, rather than the Kibbles and Bits Bowl.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Cincy's had a great season, and would have been screwed anyways, but after their performances in the national spotlight let's not pretend they're a better team than Texas. If anything it's TCU that has been firing on all cylinders lately.

Umm, what?

UC won on the road against a very good Pitt team and also won on the road against a very good Oregeon state team.

Both those wins are better then any single win Texas had. To say Texas is unequivocally the better team is ludicrous.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

At least TCU and Boise State are playing in a BCS game this year, rather than the Kibbles and Bits Bowl.

May as well be the Kibbles and Bits bowl. Boise beating Oklahoma is a huge story, Utah beating Alabama likewise, but whoever wins this game it means nothing because they didn't defy any odds and prove they belong.