Lakers vs Magic and the 2008-2009 NBA Playoffs/Finals Thread - Page 12

Neuqua · 05-06-2009, 11:24 PM

Rondo grabbed Hinrich and threw him against the announcers table and got a Flagarant 1, I'm interested to see what happens with Alston.

Jas_lov · 05-06-2009, 11:28 PM

Alston is not on the Celtics so he will be suspended for 1 game.

Neon_Chaos · 05-06-2009, 11:28 PM

The Lakers can be a tough team if they want to, like today, but they often revert to being a finesse team... like today...

Neon_Chaos · 05-06-2009, 11:44 PM

BOOM!

Derek Fisher is a rock.

Jas_lov · 05-06-2009, 11:45 PM

Fisher should be ejected from the game and suspended for the rest of the series. There is no place in the game for that dirtiness. Fisher has sucked this series and he should not be allowed to take out his frustrations without consequence just because he's on the Lakers.

whomario · 05-06-2009, 11:45 PM

Fisher just put a football tackle on Scola and is ejected. Terribly dumb move on his move ... Seriously, you are up 11 and do sth like that ?

RainMaker · 05-06-2009, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

Fisher should be ejected from the game and suspended for the rest of the series. There is no place in the game for that dirtiness. Fisher has sucked this series and he should not be allowed to take out his frustrations without consequence just because he's on the Lakers.

I think he should get a 1 game suspension but he plays for the Lakers so fat chance of that happening.

Big Fo · 05-06-2009, 11:47 PM

Harsh ejection on Fisher, that should be a flagrant 1. This is the playoffs.

whomario · 05-06-2009, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

Harsh ejection on Fisher, that should be a flagrant 1. This is the playoffs.

yeah, but it´s not the NFL playoffs ...

Neon_Chaos · 05-06-2009, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by whomario

yeah, but it´s not the NFL playoffs ...

You didn't watch the Lakers-Jazz series, did you?

whomario · 05-06-2009, 11:56 PM

It is just unexcusable that a NBA point guard can´t make an entry pass ...

whomario · 05-06-2009, 11:59 PM

how is it that every Houston guard gets either injured, incompetent or retarted within a season ? the last directed at Von Wafer ...

Neon_Chaos · 05-07-2009, 12:04 AM

Bye bye Ron Ron.

Groundhog · 05-07-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

Harsh ejection on Fisher, that should be a flagrant 1. This is the playoffs.

Man, I don't care what league or time of the season it is, that was a completely stupid and unnecessary move by Fisher. He was looking right at Scola and just leaped in to him, what did he expect to happen? If he had at least not been looking at him when he jumped backwards, maybe it's just a personal foul, but come on... He deserves AT LEAST an ejection just for the utter stupidity of it.

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Jas_lov · 05-07-2009, 12:07 AM

Joey Crawford is a company man. Kobe gets away with an elbow in the face and Artest gets ejected for it. The refs are ruining this series.

whomario · 05-07-2009, 12:08 AM

referees whistling everything on both sides, that´s just terrible on both ends. Seriously ...

RainMaker · 05-07-2009, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

Joey Crawford is a company man. Kobe gets away with an elbow in the face and Artest gets ejected for it. The refs are ruining this series.

How much do we bet the league doesn't play it fair? They did suspend Howard for the same thing. Maybe they can put a clause in the rules that gives you a pass if you are a star in a major TV market.

heybrad · 05-07-2009, 12:10 AM

Derek Fisher should join a strong man competition and Scola must be made of paper. You'd think he got shot with a cannon they way he goes flying.

RainMaker · 05-07-2009, 12:13 AM

Was that Ron's second technical? Why was he tossed?

Jas_lov · 05-07-2009, 12:13 AM

Watch Artest get suspended for game 3 while Fisher gets nothing. And Kobe gets away with murder, his second felony in the last 5 years.

Groundhog · 05-07-2009, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by heybrad

Derek Fisher should join a strong man competition and Scola must be made of paper. You'd think he got shot with a cannon they way he goes flying.

Scola was leaning backwards when he got collected right in the chest by Fisher. He didn't go flying backwards, he basically just toppled over backwards in the spot directly behind him.

molson · 05-07-2009, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Kind of tough to call that when Rondo got away with much worse and didn't get it.

There's a big difference between fouling someone on a play and just smacking someone after a play is over.

MrBug708 · 05-07-2009, 12:19 AM

Ah, the fans are certainly coming out.

While I agree that Fisher deserved to be ejected, that was nothing compared to what happened back in the "glory days" of the NBA as so many like to talk about.

MrBug708 · 05-07-2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

Watch Artest get suspended for game 3 while Fisher gets nothing. And Kobe gets away with murder, his second felony in the last 5 years.

Three players and only one has a criminal record...

Neon_Chaos · 05-07-2009, 12:22 AM

LOL at Yao knocking out his teammate.

RainMaker · 05-07-2009, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Three players and only one has a criminal record...

How many white girls has Artest raped?

Neon_Chaos · 05-07-2009, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

How many white girls has Artest raped?

5?

I don't know.

MrBug708 · 05-07-2009, 12:24 AM

Now we have a series

MrBug708 · 05-07-2009, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

How many white girls has Artest raped?

3?

MrBug708 · 05-07-2009, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

5?

I don't know.

Bastard

heybrad · 05-07-2009, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

How many white girls has Artest raped?

If the dick don't fit, you must acquit!

RainMaker · 05-07-2009, 12:26 AM

We had Artest in Chicago. There are some fucking weird stories about him. One is that he applied at a Circuit City to get employee discounts. When the Bulls traded him he grabbed a huge picture off the wall of him from the Bulls complex and took it home.

RainMaker · 05-07-2009, 12:36 AM

For a point of reference on the Fisher foul. This was very similar and from the playoffs 3 years ago. Posey was suspended for Game 4.

whomario · 05-07-2009, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

LOL at Yao knocking out his teammate.

should do that more often. Like at least every 3rd time he doesn´t get the ball with perfect position...

Brooks is not a nba staring level PG. Seriously, if you can´t pass the ball with a man on you, where´s the point ?

RainMaker · 05-07-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by whomario

should do that more often. Like at least every 3rd time he doesn´t get the ball with perfect position...

Brooks is not a nba staring level PG. Seriously, if you can´t pass the ball with a man on you, where´s the point ?

I have no fucking idea why the Rockets don't go to Yao every trip down the floor. He's such a huge mismatch for other teams.

Why was Artest thrown out? Was that his second technical?

MrBug708 · 05-07-2009, 12:41 AM

Not sure why it's considered a big deal if Fisher is out for the game. Farmar should be playing more on Brooks.

MrBug708 · 05-07-2009, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

I have no fucking idea why the Rockets don't go to Yao every trip down the floor. He's such a huge mismatch for other teams.

Why was Artest thrown out? Was that his second technical?

Artest brought his finger across his throat

RainMaker · 05-07-2009, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Artest brought his finger across his throat

Is that worse than getting elbowed in the throat? I can understand a technical for getting in his face, but don't see why it's worth of an ejection.

Danny · 05-07-2009, 12:47 AM

Fisher should be suspended for a game. Kobe's elbow was just a foul and Artest should have only gotten a technical. And I am a Lakers fan.

molson · 05-07-2009, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Is that worse than getting elbowed in the throat? I can understand a technical for getting in his face, but don't see why it's worth of an ejection.

There was some report out a while ago that the NBA was trying to cut back on the gang/violence/thug stuff. The finger across the throat thing was considered kind of the trademark of that kind of stuff.

Groundhog · 05-07-2009, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

I have no fucking idea why the Rockets don't go to Yao every trip down the floor. He's such a huge mismatch for other teams.

I can only assume it's over-coaching.

"Ok guys, we're going to take the ball upcourt and run this play..." etc. Plays that only have Yao as a 2nd or 3rd option.

In reality what they should be saying is "Take the ball up court, pass to the wing, who then feeds Yao, everyone clear out and wait for the open kick-out from Yao if he can't score".

MrBug708 · 05-07-2009, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Fisher should be suspended for a game. Kobe's elbow was just a foul and Artest should have only gotten a technical. And I am a Lakers fan.

Agreed

RainMaker · 05-07-2009, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

There was some report out a while ago that the NBA was trying to cut back on the gang/violence/thug stuff. The finger across the throat thing was considered kind of the trademark of that kind of stuff.

They are also trying to cut back on elbows to the head area which is why they suspended Dwight Howard. Why do I have a feeling we won't see Kobe suspended?

Neon_Chaos · 05-07-2009, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

They are also trying to cut back on elbows to the head area which is why they suspended Dwight Howard. Why do I have a feeling we won't see Kobe suspended?

Kobe won't get suspended because there was no clear wind-up and intent. He might have wanted to deliver that elbow, but it was during a play wherein both Kobe and Artest were fighting for position.

Howard's elbow came after the play and there was a clear wind-up to the swing.

Danny · 05-07-2009, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

They are also trying to cut back on elbows to the head area which is why they suspended Dwight Howard. Why do I have a feeling we won't see Kobe suspended?

You are as biased against the Lakers and any fan is for them. Kobe's elbow was a foul, but was clearly not worth being suspended.

whomario · 05-07-2009, 04:28 AM

Just because i don´t want to be just blaming the Refs : To be totally clear, the Lakers were the far better team tonight, highly deserving win for them. Played Yao as good as you can, although i still think that he can be effective if his guards would/could pass the ball. Even tonight he had Gasol pinned on his back within 10-12 feet at least a dozen times ... Plus : Why the hell didn´t they run that Pick and Pop play again that was pretty effective in game 1 ? The guy can pretty consistently hit a good percentage from 18-20 foot, too.
Lakers also got out on the break aggressively (again with help from Houston though, lots of TOs).

But the thing that´s encouraging for the Rockets : They didn´t get much from their role players again. Kobe won´t shoot 16-27 every game when he´s basically shooting long jumpers off the dribble against great defense.
That was one of the better shooting games i´ve seen in the last couple years, he really has a beautiful stroke from 20 feet.

for the controversial things :

Fisher was the right call imo. Heck, Scola didn´t even flop (never saw it) and flew down like shit

Artest : Dunno about it, but if he did that signature than it´s fine with me.

And Von Wafer just cost himself a lot of money. He´s found a unique situation with a team that takes any scoring it can get, nowhere will he be more than an 10th man and there´s better guys for that in terms of style of play. And then he can´t keep his mouth shut ?
Perhaps over-motivated going against his first team ?

btw :

YouTube - Air Rondo (slo-mo version also)

That´s like the hardest uncontested dunk i´ve seen in a while. Almost a pittyx that he wasn´t challenged

RainMaker · 05-07-2009, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

You are as biased against the Lakers and any fan is for them. Kobe's elbow was a foul, but was clearly not worth being suspended.

I have money on the Lakers and the Cavs to make the finals. I have no bias. I just like watching how the WWE/NBA does its thing.

Neon_Chaos · 05-07-2009, 04:47 AM

Ok, I'm browsing through the NBA.com videos, they have a locker room interview of Ron Artest after tonight's game...

WTF is Ron Artest talking about... someone from his old neighborhood, playing ball, removing a chair leg, sticking it through someone's heart...

Wow.

whomario · 05-07-2009, 04:55 AM

One more thing and again it´s homerism towards Battier : That´s one tough dude, physichally as well as mentally. Bryant put a total beating on him, taunted him on like every made shot the 2nd half and Battier just continues to do his thing and contest the next shot. And the next.
And will continue to do so in Game 3. And 4. And so on.

And is it just me or is Kobe still a little arrogant punk inside ? Sorry, but taunting Battier ? It´s not like he´s provoking it in any way on or off the court, on the contrary he respects Bryant and his game a whole lot and says so in every interview. Heck, the guy propably has a 100 page booklet on Bryant in his bag everywhere he goes theese days.

@ Neon_Chaos : You are surprised by that ? Come on, he´s Ron "Crazy Pills" Artest

Danny · 05-07-2009, 05:02 AM

Kobe is very arrogant. It's part of what makes him such a great player. Still, if he wasn't on my favorite team, I would not root for him.

05-06-2009, 11:24 PM	#551
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05-06-2009, 11:28 PM	#553
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	The Lakers can be a tough team if they want to, like today, but they often revert to being a finesse team... like today... __________________ Come and see.

05-06-2009, 11:44 PM	#554
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	BOOM! Derek Fisher is a rock. __________________ Come and see.

05-07-2009, 12:04 AM	#563
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Bye bye Ron Ron. __________________ Come and see.

05-07-2009, 12:10 AM	#568
heybrad Norm!!! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Manassas, VA	Derek Fisher should join a strong man competition and Scola must be made of paper. You'd think he got shot with a cannon they way he goes flying. Last edited by heybrad : 05-07-2009 at 12:10 AM.

05-06-2009, 11:28 PM	#552
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Alston is not on the Celtics so he will be suspended for 1 game.

05-06-2009, 11:45 PM	#555
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Fisher should be ejected from the game and suspended for the rest of the series. There is no place in the game for that dirtiness. Fisher has sucked this series and he should not be allowed to take out his frustrations without consequence just because he's on the Lakers.

05-06-2009, 11:45 PM	#556
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	Fisher just put a football tackle on Scola and is ejected. Terribly dumb move on his move ... Seriously, you are up 11 and do sth like that ?

05-06-2009, 11:47 PM	#558
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Harsh ejection on Fisher, that should be a flagrant 1. This is the playoffs.

05-06-2009, 11:56 PM	#561
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	It is just unexcusable that a NBA point guard can´t make an entry pass ...

05-06-2009, 11:59 PM	#562
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	how is it that every Houston guard gets either injured, incompetent or retarted within a season ? the last directed at Von Wafer ...

05-07-2009, 12:07 AM	#565
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Joey Crawford is a company man. Kobe gets away with an elbow in the face and Artest gets ejected for it. The refs are ruining this series.

05-07-2009, 12:08 AM	#566
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	referees whistling everything on both sides, that´s just terrible on both ends. Seriously ...

05-07-2009, 12:13 AM	#569
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Was that Ron's second technical? Why was he tossed?

05-07-2009, 12:13 AM	#570
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Watch Artest get suspended for game 3 while Fisher gets nothing. And Kobe gets away with murder, his second felony in the last 5 years.

05-07-2009, 12:19 AM	#573
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Ah, the fans are certainly coming out. While I agree that Fisher deserved to be ejected, that was nothing compared to what happened back in the "glory days" of the NBA as so many like to talk about.

05-07-2009, 12:22 AM	#575
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	LOL at Yao knocking out his teammate. __________________ Come and see.

05-07-2009, 12:24 AM	#578
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Now we have a series

05-07-2009, 12:26 AM	#582
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	We had Artest in Chicago. There are some fucking weird stories about him. One is that he applied at a Circuit City to get employee discounts. When the Bulls traded him he grabbed a huge picture off the wall of him from the Bulls complex and took it home. Last edited by RainMaker : 05-07-2009 at 12:27 AM.

05-07-2009, 12:36 AM	#583
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	For a point of reference on the Fisher foul. This was very similar and from the playoffs 3 years ago. Posey was suspended for Game 4.

05-07-2009, 12:41 AM	#586
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Not sure why it's considered a big deal if Fisher is out for the game. Farmar should be playing more on Brooks.

05-07-2009, 12:47 AM	#589
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Fisher should be suspended for a game. Kobe's elbow was just a foul and Artest should have only gotten a technical. And I am a Lakers fan.

05-07-2009, 04:28 AM	#596
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	Just because i don´t want to be just blaming the Refs : To be totally clear, the Lakers were the far better team tonight, highly deserving win for them. Played Yao as good as you can, although i still think that he can be effective if his guards would/could pass the ball. Even tonight he had Gasol pinned on his back within 10-12 feet at least a dozen times ... Plus : Why the hell didn´t they run that Pick and Pop play again that was pretty effective in game 1 ? The guy can pretty consistently hit a good percentage from 18-20 foot, too. Lakers also got out on the break aggressively (again with help from Houston though, lots of TOs). But the thing that´s encouraging for the Rockets : They didn´t get much from their role players again. Kobe won´t shoot 16-27 every game when he´s basically shooting long jumpers off the dribble against great defense. That was one of the better shooting games i´ve seen in the last couple years, he really has a beautiful stroke from 20 feet. for the controversial things : Fisher was the right call imo. Heck, Scola didn´t even flop (never saw it) and flew down like shit Artest : Dunno about it, but if he did that signature than it´s fine with me. And Von Wafer just cost himself a lot of money. He´s found a unique situation with a team that takes any scoring it can get, nowhere will he be more than an 10th man and there´s better guys for that in terms of style of play. And then he can´t keep his mouth shut ? Perhaps over-motivated going against his first team ? btw : YouTube - Air Rondo (slo-mo version also) That´s like the hardest uncontested dunk i´ve seen in a while. Almost a pittyx that he wasn´t challenged Last edited by whomario : 05-07-2009 at 04:28 AM.

05-07-2009, 04:47 AM	#598
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Ok, I'm browsing through the NBA.com videos, they have a locker room interview of Ron Artest after tonight's game... WTF is Ron Artest talking about... someone from his old neighborhood, playing ball, removing a chair leg, sticking it through someone's heart... Wow. __________________ Come and see.

05-07-2009, 04:55 AM	#599
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	One more thing and again it´s homerism towards Battier : That´s one tough dude, physichally as well as mentally. Bryant put a total beating on him, taunted him on like every made shot the 2nd half and Battier just continues to do his thing and contest the next shot. And the next. And will continue to do so in Game 3. And 4. And so on. And is it just me or is Kobe still a little arrogant punk inside ? Sorry, but taunting Battier ? It´s not like he´s provoking it in any way on or off the court, on the contrary he respects Bryant and his game a whole lot and says so in every interview. Heck, the guy propably has a 100 page booklet on Bryant in his bag everywhere he goes theese days. @ Neon_Chaos : You are surprised by that ? Come on, he´s Ron "Crazy Pills" Artest

05-07-2009, 05:02 AM	#600
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Kobe is very arrogant. It's part of what makes him such a great player. Still, if he wasn't on my favorite team, I would not root for him.

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