Werewolf LXXII: Chess (Checkmate!) - Page 12

Passacaglia · 05-06-2008, 02:11 PM

For the first time, Black and White band together, temporarily, to put an end to the Wolf problem. The voice of the mob points from one to the other, shifting tide and momentum several times. Some pieces say one name, then the next minute, start calling out another (causing the GM much distress). In the end, the group decides that hoopsguy must be removed from the game. "But...I'm a Rook!" he claims. "We don't care, we're getting rid of you anyway!" cry the pieces. Hoopsguy was a Black Rook! As the pieces leave his mangled body in its corner square, they eventually hear a distant howling come from inside his decaying soul. Hoopsguy was a wolf! The next morning, after the pieces have explored new areas for the night, you awake to find that Barkeep49's body has been eaten by wolves. Barkeep49 was a White Knight and a villager!

hoopsguy · 05-06-2008, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

Wasn't really sure how to play this. My guiding principles in situations such as these is "since I KNOW I'm not a wolf, I have to do anything I can to stay alive."

I understand and play the same way, with very few exceptions. I can't really see a reason for different play on Day 1.

Anyway, assuming I'm around people should know where to find me tonight if they want some validation.

Neon_Chaos · 05-06-2008, 02:11 PM

So that's why hoops didn't like the No Lynch...

hoopsguy · 05-06-2008, 02:12 PM

KWhit · 05-06-2008, 02:12 PM

YES!!!!!!

jeheinz72 · 05-06-2008, 02:12 PM

Wow, nice play KWhit!

hoopsguy · 05-06-2008, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

So that's why hoops didn't like the No Lynch...

To be continued after the game, if people still want to discuss.

KWhit · 05-06-2008, 02:12 PM

Booyah!

st.cronin · 05-06-2008, 02:13 PM

WOW. Hoopsguy getting lynched as a wolf on day 1? That's... crazy.

KWhit · 05-06-2008, 02:13 PM

Sucks to lose BK - a Knight.

Abe Sargent · 05-06-2008, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

WOW. Hoopsguy getting lynched as a wolf on day 1? That's... crazy.

Crazy good!

claphamsa · 05-06-2008, 02:15 PM

woa, so I was sure Kwit was goign..... yeay!

Abe Sargent · 05-06-2008, 02:15 PM

We got a ton of info to go back and look over, but I am going to go bakc and work on my injured toe some more. it's very discolored. and ouchy

RendeR · 05-06-2008, 02:15 PM

Looks like you're dead though.

st.cronin · 05-06-2008, 02:15 PM

McCollins, Sonic Youth, and KWhit all voted for hoopsguy - enter the circle of trust.

Additionally, hoopsguy said he did NOT want to vote for Neon Chaos for some reason. There was one other player he mentioned being DIStrustful of, going to look for it now.

KWhit · 05-06-2008, 02:17 PM

Not to pat myself on the back too much, but that's the second game in a row I handed you guys a wolf on day one.

Let's not screw it up this time, okay?

claphamsa · 05-06-2008, 02:17 PM

so we know kwit is the white king right?

claphamsa · 05-06-2008, 02:18 PM

so wouldnt that be an obvious go after for the others?

RendeR · 05-06-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

Looks like you're dead though.

DOH, ignore this.

RendeR · 05-06-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

so wouldnt that be an obvious go after for the others?

Kings can't be lynched or night-killed, so there really is little danger in them coming out, they have to be mated on the board.

path12 · 05-06-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

so we know kwit is the white king right?

Why?

mccollins · 05-06-2008, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

so we know kwit is the white king right?

How would we know that? There's always the possibility of "heavy" pawn votes.

RendeR · 05-06-2008, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

Why?

Well we don't know the color, but we can assume he was A king due to the fact that he was the leading vote getter and he moved the lynch to hoopsguy.

RendeR · 05-06-2008, 02:25 PM

If I remember right pawns can't do anything until turn 4 or something I believe.

jeheinz72 · 05-06-2008, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR

If I remember right pawns can't do anything until turn 4 or something I believe.

They can't use their power (which escapes me) but I think each Pawn gets 1 vote per PAwn they control. If I'm mathing it out right, they each control 4 pawns.

st.cronin · 05-06-2008, 02:30 PM

I think KWhit must be a pawn. The rules say the king applies their duking ability via pm - KWhit wouldn't have had to change his vote if he were a king.

mccollins · 05-06-2008, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR

If I remember right pawns can't do anything until turn 4 or something I believe.

Quote:

Starting Night 4, you can learn the location on the board of one player (this will be their location as of the end of the night). If you end up controlling more than one Pawn (in the very likely event that there are less than 32 players in the game), your vote will count once for each Pawn you control (this will not be revealed as long as you're alive).

Sounds like their votes are 'heavy' from the get-go. They control 4 pieces from the beginning and each piece has a vote.

Lathum · 05-06-2008, 02:31 PM

nice job KWhit.

st.cronin · 05-06-2008, 02:31 PM

Relevant part of the rules:

Quote:

King
You are the leader of your team, and the prime target of your enemies. Your opponents win by killing you. You cannot be lynched or killed by wolves. You must submit a name to me via PM -- that person will be lynched instead of you, if you're a leading vote-getter. This name can be changed at any time. If the person you submit is the other King, then the name that the OTHER king submits will be lynched. If both kings submit each other's names, then no one will be lynched as a result of voting for the King. The King's color will not be revealed in this process. On the board, you may move one space in any direction. You can see up to three spaces away from you. You may communicate via PM with your Queen.

Its possible KWhit is a king, and moved his vote in order to disguise that fact. But even if he's a king, I don't think we know what color he is.

Lathum · 05-06-2008, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

McCollins, Sonic Youth, and KWhit all voted for hoopsguy - enter the circle of trust.

Additionally, hoopsguy said he did NOT want to vote for Neon Chaos for some reason. There was one other player he mentioned being DIStrustful of, going to look for it now.

why are you in such a hurry to put them in a COT, it's not like it is unheard of for a wolf to vote another wolf day 1

jeheinz72 · 05-06-2008, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

why are you in such a hurry to put them in a COT, it's not like it is unheard of for a wolf to vote another wolf day 1

Agreed. I'll put KWhit in the COT, but not the other two. I mean they easily could've been thinking they were wolf on wolf with no consequence only to see KWhit duke it to hoops.

KWhit in
Other Two a tick to the trust area at most.

st.cronin · 05-06-2008, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

why are you in such a hurry to put them in a COT, it's not like it is unheard of for a wolf to vote another wolf day 1

Think of it as a soft COT, pending further info. Do you have a specific reason to distrust one of those players?

Lathum · 05-06-2008, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Think of it as a soft COT, pending further info. Do you have a specific reason to distrust one of those players?

no, but whats your hurry?

st.cronin · 05-06-2008, 02:38 PM

Hoopsguy also several times tried to generate interest in a lynch of either mccollins or SY. Combine that with their vote on him, and ... well, I think it would be silly not to trust them for now.

RendeR · 05-06-2008, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Think of it as a soft COT, pending further info. Do you have a specific reason to distrust one of those players?

I tihnk the more important aspect is that there is no reason TO trust them at this point. Day 1 votes really don't mean a lot.

mccollins · 05-06-2008, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR

I tihnk the more important aspect is that there is no reason TO trust them at this point. Day 1 votes really don't mean a lot.

I guess I'd have to agree with that. I voted for hoopsguy last night, but me leaving my vote on him all day long was pretty much just my wolfdar serving me well.

jeheinz72 · 05-06-2008, 02:42 PM

What do you guys think as far as deducing who Hoops' partner was in the event the wolves were paired together?

claphamsa · 05-06-2008, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR

Well we don't know the color, but we can assume he was A king due to the fact that he was the leading vote getter and he moved the lynch to hoopsguy.

and doesnt the king know who is his color? I need to go reread again

st.cronin · 05-06-2008, 02:43 PM

*shrug*

I trust those three players. You guys come up with your own COT, I happen to like mine.

path12 · 05-06-2008, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

KWhit in
Other Two a tick to the trust area at most.

Not me. A lean good to KWhit, but we don't know how much of that vote was pawns and how much might have been anything else.

Other than that, I trust myself and one other and that's it. But as cronin said, everyone's got their own trust list.

path12 · 05-06-2008, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

What do you guys think as far as deducing who Hoops' partner was in the event the wolves were paired together?

I've never forgotten vouching for Anxiety as my brother and him being a wolf. Possible that wolves are paired, but logic tells me they weren't.

path12 · 05-06-2008, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

hoops drives conversation and analysis. Yes, he's a dangerous wolf, but he's a helluva villager as well. I'll look askance at anyone who votes him off day 1.

By the way, I shan't be looking askance at those folks after all.

Passacaglia · 05-06-2008, 03:02 PM

All PMs have been sent out. Let me know if you didn't get one, or have any questions. Also, you can give out any info you want in the PM, but please don't quote me -- and even if you do, quotes can be faked pretty easily here.

Barkeep49 · 05-06-2008, 03:03 PM

Considering that I really didn't want to come out of my WW hiatus I wish to thank the wolves for knocking me off early. Good luck to my knight partner, the white team, and the villagers.

KWhit · 05-06-2008, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

I've never forgotten vouching for Anxiety as my brother and him being a wolf. Possible that wolves are paired, but logic tells me they weren't.

It wouldn't surprise me though if they were mirror images of each other, for game balance purposes. For instance, the wolves could be:

Black Rook
Black Bishop
White Rook
White Bishop

oliegirl · 05-06-2008, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

It wouldn't surprise me though if they were mirror images of each other, for game balance purposes. For instance, the wolves could be:

Black Rook
Black Bishop
White Rook
White Bishop

So since there are 2 black rooks, does that mean the other black rook is probably not a wolf, at least according to your theory?

st.cronin · 05-06-2008, 03:32 PM

Does anybody have any ideas on what to do with board information?

path12 · 05-06-2008, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Does anybody have any ideas on what to do with board information?

We could get a pretty good idea of what's going on (board-wise) if everyone shared it.

I'm not good enough at math to figure out just how infinitestimal that chance of happening is though.

Lathum · 05-06-2008, 03:43 PM

is there an updated map of the board?

Lathum · 05-06-2008, 03:44 PM

Path, I just pinged you in the GD

05-06-2008, 02:11 PM	#553
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	So that's why hoops didn't like the No Lynch... __________________ Come and see.

05-06-2008, 02:12 PM	#554
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Boo.

05-06-2008, 02:13 PM	#559
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	WOW. Hoopsguy getting lynched as a wolf on day 1? That's... crazy. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

05-06-2008, 02:15 PM	#562
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	woa, so I was sure Kwit was goign..... yeay! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

05-06-2008, 02:15 PM	#563
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	We got a ton of info to go back and look over, but I am going to go bakc and work on my injured toe some more. it's very discolored. and ouchy __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-06-2008, 02:11 PM	#551
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	For the first time, Black and White band together, temporarily, to put an end to the Wolf problem. The voice of the mob points from one to the other, shifting tide and momentum several times. Some pieces say one name, then the next minute, start calling out another (causing the GM much distress). In the end, the group decides that hoopsguy must be removed from the game. "But...I'm a Rook!" he claims. "We don't care, we're getting rid of you anyway!" cry the pieces. Hoopsguy was a Black Rook! As the pieces leave his mangled body in its corner square, they eventually hear a distant howling come from inside his decaying soul. Hoopsguy was a wolf! The next morning, after the pieces have explored new areas for the night, you awake to find that Barkeep49's body has been eaten by wolves. Barkeep49 was a White Knight and a villager!

05-06-2008, 02:12 PM	#555
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	YES!!!!!!

05-06-2008, 02:12 PM	#556
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Wow, nice play KWhit!

05-06-2008, 02:12 PM	#558
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Booyah!

05-06-2008, 02:13 PM	#560
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Sucks to lose BK - a Knight.

05-06-2008, 02:15 PM	#564
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Looks like you're dead though. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

05-06-2008, 02:15 PM	#565
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	McCollins, Sonic Youth, and KWhit all voted for hoopsguy - enter the circle of trust. Additionally, hoopsguy said he did NOT want to vote for Neon Chaos for some reason. There was one other player he mentioned being DIStrustful of, going to look for it now. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

05-06-2008, 02:17 PM	#566
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Not to pat myself on the back too much, but that's the second game in a row I handed you guys a wolf on day one. Let's not screw it up this time, okay?

05-06-2008, 02:17 PM	#567
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	so we know kwit is the white king right? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

05-06-2008, 02:18 PM	#568
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	so wouldnt that be an obvious go after for the others? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

05-06-2008, 02:25 PM	#574
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	If I remember right pawns can't do anything until turn 4 or something I believe. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

05-06-2008, 02:30 PM	#576
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I think KWhit must be a pawn. The rules say the king applies their duking ability via pm - KWhit wouldn't have had to change his vote if he were a king. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

05-06-2008, 02:31 PM	#578
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	nice job KWhit.

05-06-2008, 02:38 PM	#584
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Hoopsguy also several times tried to generate interest in a lynch of either mccollins or SY. Combine that with their vote on him, and ... well, I think it would be silly not to trust them for now. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

05-06-2008, 02:42 PM	#587
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	What do you guys think as far as deducing who Hoops' partner was in the event the wolves were paired together?

05-06-2008, 02:43 PM	#589
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	shrug I trust those three players. You guys come up with your own COT, I happen to like mine. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

05-06-2008, 03:02 PM	#593
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	All PMs have been sent out. Let me know if you didn't get one, or have any questions. Also, you can give out any info you want in the PM, but please don't quote me -- and even if you do, quotes can be faked pretty easily here.

05-06-2008, 03:03 PM	#594
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Considering that I really didn't want to come out of my WW hiatus I wish to thank the wolves for knocking me off early. Good luck to my knight partner, the white team, and the villagers.

05-06-2008, 03:32 PM	#597
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Does anybody have any ideas on what to do with board information? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

05-06-2008, 03:43 PM	#599
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	is there an updated map of the board?

05-06-2008, 03:44 PM	#600
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Path, I just pinged you in the GD

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