Super Bowl XL - Page 12

TroyF · 02-05-2006, 08:33 PM

The entire crew should be fired. PERIOD.

AlexB · 02-05-2006, 08:34 PM

Has to be reversed - was touchedby Foote, but you can;t blame the refs for not seeing it on the field

DaddyTorgo · 02-05-2006, 08:34 PM

wow. seattle just can't do anything right. for all that the refs have done wrong in this game, seattle has shot themselves in the foot many times

Pumpy Tudors · 02-05-2006, 08:34 PM

The referee should be fired on the spot if he does not overturn this fumble call.

tucker rocky · 02-05-2006, 08:34 PM

Down by contact, no fumble.

biological warrior · 02-05-2006, 08:34 PM

You guys see one of the refs yell at Hasselbeck. And ruling the fumble with such conviction.

kingfc22 · 02-05-2006, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Craptacular

easy overturn

Whoa, don't underestimate the NFL refs. You did see Troy not catch that INT from Peyton right?

GrantDawg · 02-05-2006, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Nope, the Seahawks can blame themselves. They've been the better team throughout and consistently have shot themselves in the foot.

But for a ref (ANY REF) to give a 15 yard penalty on a tackle should be immediate dismissal. These guys are so far over their head it isn't even funny. And it's been decidedly one sided when it comes to calls in this game.

I'm usually on your side, Troy, but I just don't even think this is the worst called game this post-season. It is no worse than a regular season game. I've seen one bad call (the tackle/block). The TD you were crying about earlier was a toss-up and no way clear either way.

Dutch · 02-05-2006, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Craptacular

easy overturn

This is not Jerome Bettis' team...anything can happen with this.

Craptacular · 02-05-2006, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Whoa, don't underestimate the NFL refs. You did see Troy not catch that INT from Peyton right?

touche

SnowMan · 02-05-2006, 08:35 PM

Ok..I'm not one for conspiracies, but that holding call was BS, they missed two offsides calls and then wtf was with "blocking below the waist" on a TACKLE????

This call will go to Pittsburgh too. I hope I'm wrong, but I just get a feeling that the NFL wants Bettis to get his ring.

TroyF · 02-05-2006, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

The referee should be fired on the spot if he does not overturn this fumble call.

No, he should be fired before it. This decision has now cost Seattle it's last challenge. The fact Seattle had to waste a challenge on on obvious call is sickening.

I wonder how Joey Porter is going to respond to this.

tucker rocky · 02-05-2006, 08:35 PM

Even if he wasn't touch, the ground can't cause a fumble.
Or can it?

cougarfreak · 02-05-2006, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

wow. seattle just can't do anything right. for all that the refs have done wrong in this game, seattle has shot themselves in the foot many times

You mean with the "penalties"??? This has been fucking ludicrous.

kingfc22 · 02-05-2006, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jari Rantanen's Shorts

but you can't blame the refs for not seeing it on the field

I agree with this. It would be hard to see during the action IMO.

ChiMatt · 02-05-2006, 08:36 PM

if they dont oveturn that call just end the game. set up the stage and give bettis the MVP.

biological warrior · 02-05-2006, 08:36 PM

That ref sounds like he's not happy with that call.

SnowMan · 02-05-2006, 08:36 PM

Good call. But yep, cost them their last challenge.

Eaglesfan27 · 02-05-2006, 08:36 PM

The overturn was correct. The blocking call on the interception return is the only truly indisputably bad call this game.

Pumpy Tudors · 02-05-2006, 08:36 PM

Shut the fuck up, Al Michaels. Hasselbeck was down as soon as his KNEE touched the ground, which was before either of his elbows hit. Good grief.

Bearcat729 · 02-05-2006, 08:37 PM

Well at least they made 1 good call

TroyF · 02-05-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I'm usually on your side, Troy, but I just don't even think this is the worst called game this post-season. It is no worse than a regular season game. I've seen one bad call (the tackle/block). The TD you were crying about earlier was a toss-up and no way clear either way.

You really think that was a hold on the previous play to Stevens?

Are you kidding me?

kingfc22 · 02-05-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiMatt

if they dont oveturn that call just end the game. set up the stage and give bettis the MVP.

ROFL

Masked · 02-05-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tucker rocky

Even if he wasn't touch, the ground can't cause a fumble.
Or can it?

If you fall down untouched, the ground can cause a fumble. The ground cannot cause a fumble if you are tackled.

Craptacular · 02-05-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by biological warrior

That ref sounds like he's not happy with that call.

I was thinking the same thing.

SnowMan · 02-05-2006, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

You really think that was a hold on the previous play to Stevens?

Are you kidding me?

Bingo, worst call of the game that could decide the outcome.

kingfc22 · 02-05-2006, 08:38 PM

Seattle needs to score a TD before the clock hits 4 minutes left.

GrantDawg · 02-05-2006, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

You really think that was a hold on the previous play to Stevens?

Are you kidding me?

I didn't replay it. Holding calls are always in the hands of the refs.

Pumpy Tudors · 02-05-2006, 08:39 PM

WE HAVE A SENECA WALLACE SIGHTING!

tucker rocky · 02-05-2006, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Shut the fuck up, Al Michaels. Hasselbeck was down as soon as his KNEE touched the ground, which was before either of his elbows hit. Good grief.

I'm glad them 2 are gone after this game. It was good while it lasted, but now its old.

...and absolutely to what you said about his knees being down.

biological warrior · 02-05-2006, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

I really hope SOMEONE rips into the NFL after this game for the crap they call referees this postseason.

I havent seen any of the ''high profile'' refs this post season.

SnowMan · 02-05-2006, 08:42 PM

Have the refs ever won a Super Bowl MVP trophy?

TroyF · 02-05-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I didn't replay it. Holding calls are always in the hands of the refs.

OK, that's fine. Then how is it only one team is holding today?

Sorry guys, this is a joke. The TD call was ridiculous not only because it was blown (TWICE no less), but because the ref didn't make the call until after Ben was down and had moved the ball over the line.

The push off by Jackson was iffy at best and the constant penalties everytime Seattle has a big play is just a bit bizzare, don't you think? What are we at for Seattle now, something like 7 penalties for 70 yards, and at least 5 of those calls came on big plays.

The Steelers have 3 penalties and two of those were illegal precedures on the first drive of the game. You'll forgive me if I don't believe the Steelers have played a penalty free game here.

biological warrior · 02-05-2006, 08:43 PM

So, who do you think will be the MVP?

miami_fan · 02-05-2006, 08:44 PM

I am going to give my vote to Ben for MVP. He has made the two biggest plays for the Steelers and his mistake has not hurt them.

kingfc22 · 02-05-2006, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by biological warrior

So, who do you think will be the MVP?

Willie Parker. His long TD turned the game around after the half with his huge run.

Pumpy Tudors · 02-05-2006, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by biological warrior

So, who do you think will be the MVP?

comedy referee answer

SnowMan · 02-05-2006, 08:45 PM

Are you serious...that clock was at 0.

GrantDawg · 02-05-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

OK, that's fine. Then how is it only one team is holding today?

Sorry guys, this is a joke. The TD call was ridiculous not only because it was blown (TWICE no less), but because the ref didn't make the call until after Ben was down and had moved the ball over the line.

The push off by Jackson was iffy at best and the constant penalties everytime Seattle has a big play is just a bit bizzare, don't you think? What are we at for Seattle now, something like 7 penalties for 70 yards, and at least 5 of those calls came on big plays.

The Steelers have 3 penalties and two of those were illegal precedures on the first drive of the game. You'll forgive me if I don't believe the Steelers have played a penalty free game here.

They haven't. They have had an offensive pass interference called on them, too. Their first series had two penalties help them to a three and out. Your lack of memory of Steeler penalties is pretty telling of how objective you are being.

TroyF · 02-05-2006, 08:45 PM

Another thing. . . I'm not dissapointed to see the Steelers win this game. I picked Seattle, but I have no money on it and I like both teams. I'm happy Cowher is finally going to get a ring. And Hines Ward, Polomalu, Hampton, Radall-El, Heath Miller and Big Ben are some of my favorite players in this league. . .

But this has been a joke.

kingfc22 · 02-05-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowMan

Are you serious...that clock was at 0.

I'm sure the refs thought it was an 8.

TroyF · 02-05-2006, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

They haven't. They have had an offensive pass interference called on them, too. Their first series had two penalties help them to a three and out. Your lack of memory of Steeler penalties is pretty telling of how objective you are being.

Did I or did I not mention the Steelers two illegal procedure penalties on their first drive?

Dutch · 02-05-2006, 08:47 PM

I wonder if Seattle can come back if they get a penalty on every play over 10 yards?

cthomer5000 · 02-05-2006, 08:48 PM

Pretty ugly game with neither team playing particularly well. Looks pretty sure that the Steelers will hold on here.

biological warrior · 02-05-2006, 08:48 PM

Hines Ward (if Pitt wins) 5 catches 123 yds 1td, but Parker could very well be, Even Jerome might be a shoe in.

SnowMan · 02-05-2006, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

They haven't. They have had an offensive pass interference called on them, too. Their first series had two penalties help them to a three and out. Your lack of memory of Steeler penalties is pretty telling of how objective you are being.

So "penalties" have cost the Steelers 2 drives down at their own 20ish, and "penalties" have cost the Seahawks 2 or 3 scores (field position and result of plays tell me they'd have scored).

GrantDawg · 02-05-2006, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

OK, that's fine. Then how is it only one team is holding today?

Sorry guys, this is a joke. The TD call was ridiculous not only because it was blown (TWICE no less), but because the ref didn't make the call until after Ben was down and had moved the ball over the line.

The push off by Jackson was iffy at best and the constant penalties everytime Seattle has a big play is just a bit bizzare, don't you think? What are we at for Seattle now, something like 7 penalties for 70 yards, and at least 5 of those calls came on big plays.

The Steelers have 3 penalties and two of those were illegal precedures on the first drive of the game. You'll forgive me if I don't believe the Steelers have played a penalty free game here.

And your interpretation of the TD is just that: your interpretation. The line judge walked up to be sure of the position of the line and where he saw the ball and then called a touchdown. Ben moving the ball had nothing to do with it. It was a close call that on the replay was close enough that I'd call it a touchdown. You act like he was a yard away, and he wasn't.

Dutch · 02-05-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

They haven't. They have had an offensive pass interference called on them, too. Their first series had two penalties help them to a three and out. Your lack of memory of Steeler penalties is pretty telling of how objective you are being.

Those were setup to make you believe. Jerome Bettis is comin' home, baby! Woo!

Craptacular · 02-05-2006, 08:49 PM

First down here, and it's over.

SnowMan · 02-05-2006, 08:49 PM

His hand was in the air, spotting the ball. Then Ben moved the ball and the TD was called. Make a call and don't let history change your mind.

02-05-2006, 08:34 PM	#552
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	Has to be reversed - was touchedby Foote, but you can;t blame the refs for not seeing it on the field __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports!

02-05-2006, 08:34 PM	#554
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	The referee should be fired on the spot if he does not overturn this fumble call. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

02-05-2006, 08:36 PM	#569
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	The overturn was correct. The blocking call on the interception return is the only truly indisputably bad call this game. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

02-05-2006, 08:36 PM	#570
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Shut the fuck up, Al Michaels. Hasselbeck was down as soon as his KNEE touched the ground, which was before either of his elbows hit. Good grief. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

02-05-2006, 08:38 PM	#577
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Seattle needs to score a TD before the clock hits 4 minutes left. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

02-05-2006, 08:33 PM	#551
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	The entire crew should be fired. PERIOD.

02-05-2006, 08:34 PM	#553
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	wow. seattle just can't do anything right. for all that the refs have done wrong in this game, seattle has shot themselves in the foot many times

02-05-2006, 08:34 PM	#555
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Down by contact, no fumble.

02-05-2006, 08:34 PM	#556
biological warrior High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2005	You guys see one of the refs yell at Hasselbeck. And ruling the fumble with such conviction.

02-05-2006, 08:35 PM	#561
SnowMan High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Georgia via Alaska via Washington	Ok..I'm not one for conspiracies, but that holding call was BS, they missed two offsides calls and then wtf was with "blocking below the waist" on a TACKLE???? This call will go to Pittsburgh too. I hope I'm wrong, but I just get a feeling that the NFL wants Bettis to get his ring.

02-05-2006, 08:35 PM	#563
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Even if he wasn't touch, the ground can't cause a fumble. Or can it?

02-05-2006, 08:36 PM	#566
ChiMatt n00b Join Date: Jan 2006	if they dont oveturn that call just end the game. set up the stage and give bettis the MVP.

02-05-2006, 08:36 PM	#567
biological warrior High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2005	That ref sounds like he's not happy with that call.

02-05-2006, 08:36 PM	#568
SnowMan High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Georgia via Alaska via Washington	Good call. But yep, cost them their last challenge.

02-05-2006, 08:37 PM	#571
Bearcat729 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio	Well at least they made 1 good call

02-05-2006, 08:39 PM	#579
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	WE HAVE A SENECA WALLACE SIGHTING! __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

02-05-2006, 08:42 PM	#582
SnowMan High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Georgia via Alaska via Washington	Have the refs ever won a Super Bowl MVP trophy?

02-05-2006, 08:43 PM	#584
biological warrior High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2005	So, who do you think will be the MVP?

02-05-2006, 08:44 PM	#585
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	I am going to give my vote to Ben for MVP. He has made the two biggest plays for the Steelers and his mistake has not hurt them.

02-05-2006, 08:45 PM	#588
SnowMan High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Georgia via Alaska via Washington	Are you serious...that clock was at 0.

02-05-2006, 08:45 PM	#590
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Another thing. . . I'm not dissapointed to see the Steelers win this game. I picked Seattle, but I have no money on it and I like both teams. I'm happy Cowher is finally going to get a ring. And Hines Ward, Polomalu, Hampton, Radall-El, Heath Miller and Big Ben are some of my favorite players in this league. . . But this has been a joke.

02-05-2006, 08:47 PM	#593
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	I wonder if Seattle can come back if they get a penalty on every play over 10 yards?

02-05-2006, 08:48 PM	#595
biological warrior High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2005	Hines Ward (if Pitt wins) 5 catches 123 yds 1td, but Parker could very well be, Even Jerome might be a shoe in.

02-05-2006, 08:49 PM	#599
Craptacular College Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Mad City, WI	First down here, and it's over.

02-05-2006, 08:49 PM	#600
SnowMan High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Georgia via Alaska via Washington	His hand was in the air, spotting the ball. Then Ben moved the ball and the TD was called. Make a call and don't let history change your mind.

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