2010 NFL Offseason Thread - Offseason ends at 6 pm est - Page 12

CleBrownsfan · 03-15-2010, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

And with the 7th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select QB Tim Tebow from the University of Florida.

Mike - F U! That's all...

B & B · 03-15-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

They could wait to the second round and try to grab someone like McCoy, Pike or Lefevour.

Im calling this.

stevew · 03-15-2010, 12:27 PM

They already have Cribbs. They could probably run a helluva wishbone with Cribbs/Vickers/Harrison/Hillis.

Their defense is strong enough to take the MWC.

MikeVic · 03-15-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

They already have Cribbs. They could probably run a helluva wishbone with Cribbs/Vickers/Harrison/Hillis.

Their defense is strong enough to take the MWC.

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Originally Posted by CleBrownsfan

Mike - F U! That's all...

Imagine Cribbs and Tebow running the wishbone!

Pumpy Tudors · 03-15-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Their defense is strong enough to take the MWC.

So do the Browns play UNLV at home or away this year?

Travis · 03-15-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

Imagine Cribbs and Tebow running the wishbone!

They picked up Seneca Wallace from Seattle who would likely be a pretty good fit in there as well. Not necessarily a prototypical QB but likely one of the best pure athletes on the Browns.

CleBrownsfan · 03-15-2010, 12:48 PM

I think it's funny that we've been talking about the sorry ass Browns in this thread most of the day

I hope in a couple years I'll be able to hold my head up high as a fan of the Clowns.

Doug5984 · 03-15-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CleBrownsfan

I think it's funny that we've been talking about the sorry ass Browns in this thread most of the day

I hope in a couple years I'll be able to hold my head up high as a fan of the Clowns.

It happened for us Saints fans...one day... there is hope

Mizzou B-ball fan · 03-15-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Tomlinson signs with the Jets. Personally I would have kept Thomas Jones.

This was confusing to me as well. Really happy that KC got Thomas Jones, but wondering why they let him go if Tomlinson was their best option if Jones was out.

Apathetic Lurker · 03-15-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

This was confusing to me as well. Really happy that KC got Thomas Jones, but wondering why they let him go if Tomlinson was their best option if Jones was out.

Tomlison is still a marquee player, Jones never was even if he is a better option right now. Stupid move

Samdari · 03-15-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

This was confusing to me as well. Really happy that KC got Thomas Jones, but wondering why they let him go if Tomlinson was their best option if Jones was out.

The issue with Jones was financial. They would have had to pay him 8 (12? something absurd) million this year to keep him. That's a whole lot of money for a guy you plan to be your #2 back.

wade moore · 03-15-2010, 02:11 PM

And they got LT for reportedly 2 years, $5mil.

I had the same first reaction until I saw the financial numbers.

miked · 03-15-2010, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Apathetic Lurker

Tomlison is still a marquee player, Jones never was even if he is a better option right now. Stupid move

Huh?? The guy who ran for 2700 yards and 27 TDs in two seasons is less valuable than a guy who ran for 1800 yards, 23 TDs, and had a half-yard less per carry? The move was silly for the Jets, but they obviously believe Shonn Greene can carry the load and didn't want to pay Jones 6M. They get Tomlinson for 5M over 2 years and a guy who can spell Greene.

Of course, if by marquee you mean makes cool videos and sulks a lot, then sure Tomlinson is more marquee.

MikeVic · 03-15-2010, 02:16 PM

Being a Steelers fan, this is hard to admit, but it seems like Ben is a big jerk, asshole, etc... I just keep reading stories about him and it sucks to read that about the star QB of your team.

MikeVic · 03-15-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by miked

Huh?? The guy who ran for 2700 yards and 27 TDs in two seasons is less valuable than a guy who ran for 1800 yards, 23 TDs, and had a half-yard less per carry? The move was silly for the Jets, but they obviously believe Shonn Greene can carry the load and didn't want to pay Jones 6M. They get Tomlinson for 5M over 2 years and a guy who can spell Greene.

Of course, if by marquee you mean makes cool videos and sulks a lot, then sure Tomlinson is more marquee.

I'd guess by "marquee" he means a bigger name. LT was one of the better known guys in the league. Non-fans don't really know Thomas Jones.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 03-15-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

Being a Steelers fan, this is hard to admit, but it seems like Ben is a big jerk, asshole, etc... I just keep reading stories about him and it sucks to read that about the star QB of your team.

You talking about the Arnold Palmer story?

Arnold Palmer anecdotes attach to Roethlisberger | ProFootballTalk.com

MikeVic · 03-15-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

You talking about the Arnold Palmer story?

Arnold Palmer anecdotes attach to Roethlisberger | ProFootballTalk.com

Yeah, that's exactly what prompted me to post. There was someone in this thread that posted a story too (Balldog maybe?), and I think PFT had something before, or some other site did.

Dr. Sak · 03-15-2010, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

You talking about the Arnold Palmer story?

Arnold Palmer anecdotes attach to Roethlisberger | ProFootballTalk.com

There's that story and another one where Palmer asked Roethlisberger to remove his ball cap while inside the clubhouse only to see Ben with it on again in the clubhouse 15 minutes later. Palmer threw him out and told him never to come back.

Pumpy Tudors · 03-15-2010, 02:25 PM

So basically, Arnold Palmer is Mr. Angelino, and Ben Roethlisberger is Jack Tripper.

tucker rocky · 03-15-2010, 03:43 PM

Anyone know who'll be the QB for the Raiders this season.
It can't be Jabustus can it?

Pumpy Tudors · 03-15-2010, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tucker rocky

Anyone know who'll be the QB for the Raiders this season.
It can't be Jabustus can it?

I heard Subby is auditioning this week, and if that doesn't work out, the Raiders will bring Nancy Reagan in.

DataKing · 03-15-2010, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I heard Subby is auditioning this week, and if that doesn't work out, the Raiders will bring Nancy Reagan in.

They should go with Betty White.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 03-15-2010, 03:57 PM

Please, please let JaMarcus have one more season.

/Pats Fan

Swaggs · 03-15-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

Being a Steelers fan, this is hard to admit, but it seems like Ben is a big jerk, asshole, etc... I just keep reading stories about him and it sucks to read that about the star QB of your team.

Agreed. I knew he was immature and acted so, but the more I read, the more I realize that he is just a punk. When I thought he was immature, there was always the hope that he'd grow up and kind of turn into a statesman of the game. Now, it will be bittersweet watching him.

tucker rocky · 03-15-2010, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DataKing

They should go with Betty White.

Jabustus was already playing like Betty White, right?

Suburban Rhythm · 03-15-2010, 06:22 PM

Larry Foote back to Pittsburgh. Odd contract though, 3 years $9M

He left last season because he didn't want to be a backup to Timmons, and the Steelers didn't want to pay him $3M a year to be a backup....er

So, Foote, Randle El last week, anyone know what kind of shape Rod Woodson is in?

BishopMVP · 03-15-2010, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

I don't know how Quinn turns out at this point, but I he was managed so badly in Cleveland I wonder how he would have turned out in an organization that didn't have it's head up it's ass.

The only thing they could have done to screw up his development worse would have been hiring Todd Marinovich as his QB coach and mentor.

Even when he was at Notre Dame he was so inaccurate I never saw the potential for an all-pro QB. McKnight, Samardzija and Stovall made a lot of nice catches on badly thrown balls. Say what you will about Clausen, but he was very accurate when given time and actually could be an all-pro.

henry296 · 03-15-2010, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

Larry Foote back to Pittsburgh. Odd contract though, 3 years $9M

He left last season because he didn't want to be a backup to Timmons, and the Steelers didn't want to pay him $3M a year to be a backup....er

So, Foote, Randle El last week, anyone know what kind of shape Rod Woodson is in?

They didn't want to spend $3MM a year for a backup in a salary cap era. I think you are starting to see the Steelers strategy in an uncapped world. Spend moderate amounts of money for experienced backups.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-15-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

So basically, Arnold Palmer is Mr. Angelino, and Ben Roethlisberger is Jack Tripper.

At least Mr. Angelino's daughter was hot (or was it his wife?) No excuse for being an ass towards kids.

Fidatelo · 03-15-2010, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

Being a Steelers fan, this is hard to admit, but it seems like Ben is a big jerk, asshole, etc... I just keep reading stories about him and it sucks to read that about the star QB of your team.

You don't have a lot of luck when it comes to NFL QB's, do you?

MikeVic · 03-15-2010, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

You don't have a lot of luck when it comes to NFL QB's, do you?

Who do you like, the Broncos? I'm gonna buy an Orton and Quinn jersey next.

Suburban Rhythm · 03-15-2010, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by henry296

They didn't want to spend $3MM a year for a backup in a salary cap era. I think you are starting to see the Steelers strategy in an uncapped world. Spend moderate amounts of money for experienced backups.

True...plus so many variables. Is Farrior done after this season? Is Timmons being moved outside? And we don't know how it's structured.

It's actually $9.3M, so salaries of $2, $2.1 and $2.2 with $3M bonus would be my guess, and he can be cut again in 2 years.

Fidatelo · 03-16-2010, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

Who do you like, the Broncos? I'm gonna buy an Orton and Quinn jersey next.

Nooooooooo!

Pumpy Tudors · 03-16-2010, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

At least Mr. Angelino's daughter was hot (or was it his wife?) No excuse for being an ass towards kids.

Yeah, I think it was his daughter. Off the top of my head, I say her name was Francesca, but I might be wrong.

I heard a story that Ben Roethlisberger dropped a chicken wing in the clubhouse and refused to pick it up. Arnold Palmer flew in from Altoona about half an hour later and kicked Ben out of the building.

JPhillips · 03-16-2010, 09:55 AM

I heard Ben raped Arnie in the bathroom of Gilley's.

Pumpy Tudors · 03-16-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

I heard Ben raped Arnie in the bathroom of Gilley's.

And then Arnie threw him out.

MikeVic · 03-16-2010, 10:03 AM

I heard Arnie loves his pet bird, and his wife wanted to teach him a lesson since she wasn't being satisfied by him. She hit on Ben, who then had his way with her. When Arnie found out, he was furious and that's how this all started.

edit: And then, of course, Arnie threw Ben out of his apartment.

Dr. Sak · 03-16-2010, 10:19 AM

True story about Arnie and his late wife:

His wife was on Johnny Carson one night and Johnny asked her if she did any ritual for good luck for Arnie. She said "I blow on his balls." To which Carson replied "I bet that makes his putter stand up." She walked off the stage.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-16-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

True story about Arnie and his late wife:

His wife was on Johnny Carson one night and Johnny asked her if she did any ritual for good luck for Arnie. She said "I blow on his balls." To which Carson replied "I bet that makes his putter stand up." She walked off the stage.

And then Arnie threw Johnny out of the studio?

Pumpy Tudors · 03-16-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

And then Arnie threw Johnny out of the studio?

this is epic

whomario · 03-17-2010, 10:35 AM

I didn´t realize there was an NFL Player with the name Richie Incognito.
How genius is that ? That´s a porn star name if i ever saw one

To say sth else : I hope Quinn starts and ends up having a nice career, if only to rub it in the Brown´s decicion makers/coaches face, was a damn shame how Mangini handled that situation last season.

Ksyrup · 03-17-2010, 11:20 AM

Not to beat the Quinn trade to death (particularly since he got traded to my team - oy!), but I found this pretty interesting/amusing.

The Browns traded their 2007 2nd round pick, #36, and their 2008 1st round pick to the Cowboys for the Cowboys #22 pick in the 2007 1st round. With that pick, they took Quinn.

The Cowboys then packaged that #36 with a couple more picks and traded them to the Eagles for the Eagles #26 pick.

With the Browns #36 pick, the Eagles took Kevin Kolb.

With the Browns 2008 #1 pick, the Cowboys took Felix Jones.

Perhaps the Browns should have just stood pat...!

JonInMiddleGA · 03-17-2010, 11:28 AM

Washington Redskins agree with Rex Grossman on one-year deal - ESPN

flere-imsaho · 03-17-2010, 12:38 PM

AWESOME

JeeberD · 03-17-2010, 12:41 PM

I'm a fan of that signing!

flere-imsaho · 03-17-2010, 12:45 PM

I hope he starts. The NFL is so much better with some weekly Rex Grossman hilarity.

Sun Tzu · 03-17-2010, 12:46 PM

I work with a guy who use to golf with Arnie (and do some business with him on the side) for an extended period of time. I've heard quite a few inside stories involving him, and with that knowledge, I wouldn't doubt for a second that he went ballistic on Big Ben if the rest of the story is true.

Apathetic Lurker · 03-17-2010, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by miked

Huh?? The guy who ran for 2700 yards and 27 TDs in two seasons is less valuable than a guy who ran for 1800 yards, 23 TDs, and had a half-yard less per carry? The move was silly for the Jets, but they obviously believe Shonn Greene can carry the load and didn't want to pay Jones 6M. They get Tomlinson for 5M over 2 years and a guy who can spell Greene.

Of course, if by marquee you mean makes cool videos and sulks a lot, then sure Tomlinson is more marquee.

By marquee I mean who the hell does the average joe fan know about... Everyone has heard of Tomlinson, even the housewife somewhere in Idaho. Not so Jones, even if I think he is more valuable as a rb at this time. Thats more merchandise the Jets can shift in all the markets, not just NYC.

Dr. Sak · 03-17-2010, 01:10 PM

Thankfully he'll stop stealing money from the Eagles

Eagles Release Shawn Andrews

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 03-17-2010, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Apathetic Lurker

Thats more merchandise the Jets can shift in all the markets, not just NYC.

Jerseys that will one day be seen on Straight Cash Homey.

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MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Being a Steelers fan, this is hard to admit, but it seems like Ben is a big jerk, asshole, etc... I just keep reading stories about him and it sucks to read that about the star QB of your team.

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tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Anyone know who'll be the QB for the Raiders this season. It can't be Jabustus can it?

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MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	I heard Arnie loves his pet bird, and his wife wanted to teach him a lesson since she wasn't being satisfied by him. She hit on Ben, who then had his way with her. When Arnie found out, he was furious and that's how this all started. edit: And then, of course, Arnie threw Ben out of his apartment. Last edited by MikeVic : 03-16-2010 at 10:04 AM.

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Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	True story about Arnie and his late wife: His wife was on Johnny Carson one night and Johnny asked her if she did any ritual for good luck for Arnie. She said "I blow on his balls." To which Carson replied "I bet that makes his putter stand up." She walked off the stage.

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whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	I didn´t realize there was an NFL Player with the name Richie Incognito. How genius is that ? That´s a porn star name if i ever saw one To say sth else : I hope Quinn starts and ends up having a nice career, if only to rub it in the Brown´s decicion makers/coaches face, was a damn shame how Mangini handled that situation last season.

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Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Not to beat the Quinn trade to death (particularly since he got traded to my team - oy!), but I found this pretty interesting/amusing. The Browns traded their 2007 2nd round pick, #36, and their 2008 1st round pick to the Cowboys for the Cowboys #22 pick in the 2007 1st round. With that pick, they took Quinn. The Cowboys then packaged that #36 with a couple more picks and traded them to the Eagles for the Eagles #26 pick. With the Browns #36 pick, the Eagles took Kevin Kolb. With the Browns 2008 #1 pick, the Cowboys took Felix Jones. Perhaps the Browns should have just stood pat...! __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete." Last edited by Ksyrup : 03-17-2010 at 11:20 AM.

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