Alright Boyz, Here We Go! The FM2008/WWSM2008 First Impressions Thread

[lighthousekeeper]

Originally Posted by Flasch186

any graphics packs for this yet for team logos and such?

http://www.sortitoutsi.net/ has a bunch of stuff. I downloaded some missing players and team logos.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

I have the most success in LLM in loaning guys who are transfer listed by Championship/League 1 teams. That follows from what Marc says, because these are presumably the guys that have been told by the team that they aren't needed, and they just want to play anywhere to try and keep their career going.

I almost never have anyone that is listed for loan interested in me either except a few guys from the amateur leagues in Northern Ireland & Scotland.

One thing that does frustrate me is that right now, it's pointless for me to have a parent club. The only guys they offer me are already listed for loan and usually accept a loan bid from a much bigger club. In 2 seasons I haven't got a single guy from my parent club because of this.

I have had pretty good lick here. I have Chelsea as my parent club (I am playing L1 Millwall) and get 2-3 offers a season from Chelsea directly, plus hit on about 40 percent of the guys I ask them to loan me.

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

I have had pretty good lick here. I have Chelsea as my parent club (I am playing L1 Millwall) and get 2-3 offers a season from Chelsea directly, plus hit on about 40 percent of the guys I ask them to loan me.

LOL me too. never had a Parent club before so it helps out when your Carlisle and need some good players.

[Flasch186]

is it the same as it used to be to extract it, as is, to the /my documents/SI/WWSM2008/db folder?

[bhlloy]

Yeah, Chelsea to Millwall isn't anywhere near as big a drop as Liverpool to Northwich. Next time I will try and get a Championship team at the most, although I think all my choices were Premiership.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Flasch186

is it the same as it used to be to extract it, as is, to the /my documents/SI/WWSM2008/db folder?

It doesn't have to be in /db. I've set up folders for skins, logos, facepacks, etc.....or you could just do a catchall for graphics if you wanted.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Has anyone heard how close an official patch is at this point? I know the beta patch is out, but I'm not real keen on downloading a beta.

[lighthousekeeper]

According to this, it should be out in a few days ("early next week" as stated this past week):

http://community.sigames.com/eve/for...1/m/3982067063

[lighthousekeeper]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

I have the most success in LLM in loaning guys who are transfer listed by Championship/League 1 teams. That follows from what Marc says, because these are presumably the guys that have been told by the team that they aren't needed, and they just want to play anywhere to try and keep their career going.

I almost never have anyone that is listed for loan interested in me either except a few guys from the amateur leagues in Northern Ireland & Scotland.

One thing that does frustrate me is that right now, it's pointless for me to have a parent club. The only guys they offer me are already listed for loan and usually accept a loan bid from a much bigger club. In 2 seasons I haven't got a single guy from my parent club because of this.

Thanks! I used the approach you and Marc suggested (tergeting Transfer Listed players) and it works - I've finally been able to get a player in on loan! I can't believe I've been able to survive managing 3 seasons without that knowledge.

[Marc Vaughan]

Thanks! I used the approach you and Marc suggested (tergeting Transfer Listed players) and it works - I've finally been able to get a player in on loan! I can't believe I've been able to survive managing 3 seasons without that knowledge.

Glad its helped - one of the problems with FM is that it 'presumes' a lot of soccer knowledge generally in some cases (such as this).

We've been trying to improve things through the built in help and wizards, but its very easy for developers to forget that not everyone in the world is an devout soccer fan ..... not yet anyway

[DaddyTorgo]

first time ever I accepted a job as manager of an African national team. Ivory Coast offered me the job in February 2010 as I have Juventus squarely in 2nd place in Serie A

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

first time ever I accepted a job as manager of an African national team. Ivory Coast offered me the job in February 2010 as I have Juventus squarely in 2nd place in Serie A

I have many fond memories of my time as manager of Les Éléphants...

FM

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by FrogMan

I have many fond memories of my time as manager of Les Éléphants...

FM

see what I can do with them, or how long I want to stay with them.

in FM 2007 I was actually fired from a couple national team jobs.

[Passacaglia]

Isn't the patch supposed to be out today?

[Icy]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Isn't the patch supposed to be out today?

They said probably this week after a weekend of testing but... no news by now.

[finketr]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

see what I can do with them, or how long I want to stay with them.

in FM 2007 I was actually fired from a couple national team jobs.

in wwsm2005, i led brazil to the world cup (yes, tough i know).. then got fired from england for losing to brazil in the 1/4s...

forget where i am currently as i haven't loaded it in a while.

[Ramzavail]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

see what I can do with them, or how long I want to stay with them.

in FM 2007 I was actually fired from a couple national team jobs.

Me too, I was hired as the USA manager, didn't do well in my first WC, won the WC in the next go round, and then didn't qualify in the next and I got the AXE.

You'd think if I won the WC in the USA - not only would there be a statue of me but I think I'd have some friggin wiggle room national side.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Ramzavail

Me too, I was hired as the USA manager, didn't do well in my first WC, won the WC in the next go round, and then didn't qualify in the next and I got the AXE.

You'd think if I won the WC in the USA - not only would there be a statue of me but I think I'd have some friggin wiggle room national side.

i bounced around quite a bit in 07 in my 25 year career.

columbia (took them up to 6th in the world) - left amicably for
england (maintained them at 3rd in the world) - fired after a decent WC showing but not making the finals
portugal (where i am currently, poaching some great young kids to my squad and holding them steady)

what's really gratifying is seeing the continued success that all the kids I brought into the columbian squad have had. Hell...Barca bought one of their strikers for $70 million or something. And I myself grabbed one or two of the stud young defenders.

and columbia is still top...6 or so in the world i believe

edit: this is all off the top of my head, and i know i missed a stint in italy and i think one in france too. i will load it up tonight and edit the post to reflect my actual international career.

[lighthousekeeper]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i bounced around quite a bit in 07 in my 25 year career.

columbia (took them up to 6th in the world) - left amicably for
england (maintained them at 3rd in the world) - fired after a decent WC showing but not making the finals
portugal (where i am currently, poaching some great young kids to my squad and holding them steady)

what's really gratifying is seeing the continued success that all the kids I brought into the columbian squad have had. Hell...Barca bought one of their strikers for $70 million or something. And I myself grabbed one or two of the stud young defenders.

and columbia is still top...6 or so in the world i believe

edit: this is all off the top of my head, and i know i missed a stint in italy and i think one in france too. i will load it up tonight and edit the post to reflect my actual international career.

25 years...I can't imagine how much real-life that that must have consumed.

[path12]

Originally Posted by lighthousekeeper

25 years...I can't imagine how much real-life that that must have consumed.

I believe it would take me 10 years. Minimum.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i bounced around quite a bit in 07 in my 25 year career.

columbia (took them up to 6th in the world) - left amicably for
england (maintained them at 3rd in the world) - fired after a decent WC showing but not making the finals
portugal (where i am currently, poaching some great young kids to my squad and holding them steady)

what's really gratifying is seeing the continued success that all the kids I brought into the columbian squad have had. Hell...Barca bought one of their strikers for $70 million or something. And I myself grabbed one or two of the stud young defenders.

and columbia is still top...6 or so in the world i believe

edit: this is all off the top of my head, and i know i missed a stint in italy and i think one in france too. i will load it up tonight and edit the post to reflect my actual international career.

I've had a game or two like that. I've enjoyed "simming" for a good 15 years to get a good league history with almost all regen players.

[Ramzavail]

simming 15 years, must take a few calendar days on vacation?

[MrBug708]

Yes. Usually would take about 24 hours plus or so? Just start the game and go on holiday for an unspecified amount of time

[highfiveoh]

Originally Posted by path12

I believe it would take me 10 years. Minimum.

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[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by lighthousekeeper

25 years...I can't imagine how much real-life that that must have consumed.

lemme grab my 07 disc and check.

oh and I didn't fast-sim or go on holiday at all

[DaddyTorgo]

sorry...it's 4/19/2027. So I guess that's just 20 years.

26 days, 11 hours, 19 minutes

[DaddyTorgo]

International Career: (All Club Career spent at Juventus)

Peru: 7/18/2010-7/30/2011
Colombia: 8/1/2011-7/7/2013
England: 7/7/2013-7/9/2017
Italy: 7/9/2017-6/28/2020 - WC Winner 2018, Knocked Out in QF's of Euro Championship 2020 and fired
Czech Republic (dunno why): 7/17/2022-9/1/2022
Portugal: 6/22/2025-current in 2027 - WC Quarterfinals

Club Career:

Serie B Winner: 2007
Serie A Winner: 2013, 2014,2015,2016,2017,2019,2020,2021,2022,2023,2025,2026
Serie A Runner Up: 2018
Serie A Third Place: 2009,2010,2024
Italian Cup Winner: 2016,2018,2021
Italian Cup Runner Up: 2011,2017,2024
Italian Super Cup Winner: 2013,2014,2015,2016,2017,2019,2020,2021,2022,2023,2025,2026
Italian Super Cup Runner Up: 2018
European Champions League Winner: 2014,2020,2025
European Champions League Runner Up: 2023,2024
European Super Cup Winner:2014,2020,2025
Club World Championship Winner: 2014,2020,2025

If you ask me personally I think my 2014 squad would go down in history as my greatest squad ever. You had the Brazilian tandem of Lucas and Arouca in their late-20's at the peak of their abilities manning my midfield, as well as Andres Guardado, my wonderkid-striker Leandro Rinaldi fresh off a 36 goal season in his rookie campaign (in 2024 he would score an amazing 46 goals in 49 appearances)

[DaddyTorgo]

and now I have this disc in I want to hang out with these guys again!!!

they're underachieving this year (only 4th in Serie A).

Rinaldi is winding down an amazing career (he's 34 and I've got a fresh crop of new amazing youngsters coming into the first team.. I've also got a couple defenders in their early 30's who I need to start phasing out.)

[DaddyTorgo]

although inflation is slightly crazy at this point. I have no starters worth less than 22 million. And I have a 90 million dollar defender, a 78 million dollar midfielder, a 60 million dollar midfielder, and 2 55 million dollar strikers.

[Marc Vaughan]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

sorry...it's 4/19/2027. So I guess that's just 20 years.

26 days, 11 hours, 19 minutes

Makes you feel better I'm about the same distance into my 08 game presently ..

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

Makes you feel better I'm about the same distance into my 08 game presently ..

yowsers. I'm jealous!!

[path12]

According to Neil from SI on their forum, they're hoping to have the 8.0.1 patch ready late evening UK time.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by path12

According to Neil from SI on their forum, they're hoping to have the 8.0.1 patch ready late evening UK time.

Sweet! Just in time for the long holiday weekend!

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by path12

According to Neil from SI on their forum, they're hoping to have the 8.0.1 patch ready late evening UK time.

If the past is any indication, this means that the patch for the WWSM download version will be available sometime in January.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

If the past is any indication, this means that the patch for the WWSM download version will be available sometime in January.

The post said it was supposed to be all platforms at once, but as a WWSM owner I'm not poppin' a boner just yet.....

[Icy]

Patch is out but by now only torrents, soon will be also directo download but the SI site is beign hammered by thousands of users, so you better use torrent. It's an around 100mb download, Here are the torrent links:

PC DVD Football manager
http://torrents.sigames.com:7000/tor...E2EAF0B671D63A

PC DVD Worldwide soccer manager
http://torrents.sigames.com:7000/tor...4D31A685EBB4CD

PC worldwide soccer manager digital download
http://torrents.sigames.com:7000/tor...9DB24CE95542EC

[Sweed]

Direct links are now up for all versions. I'm d'loading at 110-112 kb\sec now.

http://community.sigames.com/eve/for...1/m/5902009263

85%, almost there

Just finished, took about 15 minutes. Not bad for SI, plus WSM released at the same time as FM to boot.

[finkenst]

Originally Posted by finketr

in wwsm2005, i led brazil to the world cup (yes, tough i know).. then got fired from england for losing to brazil in the 1/4s...

forget where i am currently as i haven't loaded it in a while.

guess i won't be looking this up since i can't find my wwsm2k5 CD. it seems to be misplaced when i moved.

[Izulde]

I'm in Toledo this weekend, but when I get back or if I get insomnia, I'm going to hit this thing to see if it really did fix the keeper bugs.

[Critch]

Originally Posted by Izulde

I'm in Toledo this weekend, but when I get back or if I get insomnia, I'm going to hit this thing to see if it really did fix the keeper bugs.

I installed the patch and started a new game, since then my team's results have been 6-0, 2-0, 3-0, 2-0, 2-0, 1-0 and 0-0 (played 70 minutes with 10 men). So at least my keeper seems to be liking the patch.

Edit - Followed by a 2-1 win when the opponent scored a consolation goal in the last minute. Boooo.

[Izulde]

Yep, the keeper problem is fixed!!!!!!

Ran a few tests and things were vastly improved.

Started a dynasty with Thurrock after testing, let my new AM take care of the friendlies, then took control once conference play started.

Just upset Lewes 2-0 in an away game to start the real season.

[grim]

I've been playing CM/FM since 97/98, and have bought every version since then except for CM4 and the new one. I have a pretty fun career going with 07, been playing the same save for over six months. But it is starting to slow down quite a bit (picked too many leagues), so it is about time to start up a new game.

So my question is : How is the MLS now? Has anyone been playing with MLS post patch? Managing in MLS is the main reason I'd buy 08. The things that are most important to me are the draft pool quality and types of players that MLS teams are able to get to fill the designated player spots.

[highfiveoh]

I don't think MLS will ever be too playable in FM. Here's a thread that will keep you up to date with the latest inadequecies -- http://community.sigames.com/eve/for...3?r=5942076363

[DaddyTorgo]

2010 - Won the Scudetto with Juventus (maintaining a 1pt lead over Inter with a 5 game win streak to end the season), and the UEFA Champions League (beating AC Milan 1-0 at Wembley for the win. Milan also came in 3rd in Serie A btw)

Now I have Ivory Coast through the Group Stage of the WC and I've been drawn against Senegal in the next round. Drogba is an absolute beast...he's scored 7 goals in the group stage - including 4 in a 4-1 drubbing of Sweden

[TroyF]

Ordered a new PC this week. Probably won't get here until sometime the week of December 5. I think I'll concentrate on Mass Effect and some reviews until then. I was becoming dominant in my Arsenal dynasty. (Silva is a GOD by the way)

[Cringer]

We should try to get the MLS to change it's ways so it can come to some kind of middle ground with WSM.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Cringer

We should try to get the MLS to change it's ways so it can come to some kind of middle ground with WSM.

+1

[grim]

Thanks for the link. I hadn't looked in the bugs forum over there.

I understand why MLS isn't a big priority for SI, but hopefully they can make it playable next year. I guess I can start a new game with 07.

[Flasch186]

first time Ive had a "crash dump" that CTD. Stinks

[DaddyTorgo]

*cough*

your 2010 World Cup Champions...IVORY COAST

2-1 winners over England via a Yaya Toure strike in the 70th minute