Werewolf XXI - Werewolf goes to Hollywood - Game Over!! Death Eaters win!! - Page 12

SnDvls · 01-10-2006, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dacman

Good god man -- did you really have to post all that again? If you're trying to make a point with all that, I'm missing it.

see post #550

dacman · 01-10-2006, 03:33 PM

Got it.

Raiders Army · 01-10-2006, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls

IT WAS DAY 1!!! did anyone have a good reason before Neon came out?

I did. Coder was #13. He was bound to be a Death Eater.

/sarcasm

I agree. No one had a good reason, but you seem very defensive right now.

Raiders Army · 01-10-2006, 03:36 PM

VOTE WVUFan

Just because he hasn't showed up yet.

dubb93 · 01-10-2006, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

VOTE WVUFan

Just because he hasn't showed up yet.

Sounds good. I don't trust people that don't contribute anything to the discussion. And if he has multiple votes when he shows up he'll be forced to defend himself.

VOTE WVUFan

Lathum · 01-10-2006, 03:39 PM

I know this will come back to bite me, but if I was a DE, which I'm not, I wouldn't have said anything yet. There are enough side discussions going on already without them getting involved.
For now

Unvote Superman

SnDvls · 01-10-2006, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I agree. No one had a good reason, but you seem very defensive right now.

you would be too if your head was on the block and you were good.

JeeberD · 01-10-2006, 03:40 PM

I'll go with this as well. Superman at least showed up (even if he didn't explain himself all that well) but there haven't been any WVUFan sightings at all...

Unvote Superman

Vote WVUFan

dubb93 · 01-10-2006, 03:42 PM

We could always follow in Blade's advice and force a tie today.

SnDvls · 01-10-2006, 03:44 PM

it's tied now

st.cronin · 01-10-2006, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls

IT WAS DAY 1!!! did anyone have a good reason before Neon came out?

Once again, I am not worried about you voting for Blade without a good reason. I am worried that you SAID you had a good reason for voting for Blade, when you didn't (and, as you point out, few people had good reasons), and now you are changing your tune.

SnDvls · 01-10-2006, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Once again, I am not worried about you voting for Blade without a good reason. I am worried that you SAID you had a good reason for voting for Blade, when you didn't (and, as you point out, few people had good reasons), and now you are changing your tune.

show me what post I SAID I had a good reason? I said go look at why that is all. Prove where I "SAID" that. I think you are trying to read into something that isn't there.

path12 · 01-10-2006, 03:55 PM

I tend to agree with the idea that one of the late switches was a wolf, but I haven't seen a really solid reason to think that it's SnDvls (not saying it couldn't be, I just haven't seen a reason that resonates with me).

Desnudo · 01-10-2006, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

And if you got back on before the deadline to see the results and saw the hour old seer reveal and changed your vote it makes you a bad guy. The reveal was good b/c we got a deatheater, but it came so late in the day that it makes it the votes less likely to mean anything. I'm sure Desnudo and Jesse were in the same boat I was, out for the day after saying their peace and then back at the deadline. The reveal came as a shock and we all quickly changed it.

If Neon's reveal came at 4:00, then the case becomes much better against the deadline switchers. Again, I'm not vouching for Desnudo or Jesse, I just know I'm not a death eater, and assume with the late reveal they stumbled into the same situation I did.

I'm on the West Coast. My deal went something like this:

1. Get home from work around 6ish PST
2. Log-in and start reading the thread to catch up
3. See Neon's reveal
4. Realize I have about five minutes to post my final vote
5. Scroll through the last two pages of posts. At that point I'd pretty much picked up that Quick likely had enough votes, but I figured, might as well make sure.
6. Vote for Quick

I know full well from past games that voting late, even for a guilty party, casts you in a suspicious light. If I'd wished to remain unnoticed, I would have let my vote stand.

Edit: right now I'm leaning towards WVUFan, because he hasn't posted at all and I don't feel that anyone really jumps out. I have some suspicions, but nothing concrete.

WVUFAN · 01-10-2006, 04:08 PM

I'm here, I'm here. I lost internet over my weekend, which is Sunday and Monday (cable company was doing some sort of work) so I've not been able to get on to vote. Lemme catch up.

SnDvls · 01-10-2006, 04:28 PM

I'm heading home so
out of self preservation

vote WVU
subject to being moved if I"m not at risk

Poli · 01-10-2006, 04:33 PM

TEST.

dubb93 · 01-10-2006, 04:34 PM

board problems ardent?

Poli · 01-10-2006, 04:34 PM

I've been trying to post for about 40 minutes now. My computer must be screwed up.

Mr. Wednesday · 01-10-2006, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22

I thought the same thing going into today. I don't have a feeling for any particular person, but I feel fairly certain that more than one DE jumped on the bandwagon to confuse us later in the game when we look at voting patterns.

I agree with the expectation that DEs jumped on the bandwagon, but disagree that it will confuse us later in the game -- by now, we're familiar enough with these types of bandwagons that we will expect a mix of folk in the anti-Qwikshot side and basically count the vote as a throw-away as far as analysis is concerned.

Grammaticus · 01-10-2006, 04:44 PM

I want to keep this a tie for now

VOTE SNDVLS

Mr. Wednesday · 01-10-2006, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls

IT WAS DAY 1!!! did anyone have a good reason before Neon came out?

The Death Eaters were the only ones with anything like a good reason -- any vote for a villager brings them closer to victory.

There is way too much angst and heavy thinking about day 1. There's practically nothing to learn from the vote, IMO. We're sort of back to square one, except that we believe we can trust Neon and we believe we can trust st. cronin.

JeeberD · 01-10-2006, 04:46 PM

Well, I'm off to work for the evening and I'm not sure if I'll be able to check in until morning. I'm hoping we get lucky and catch ourselves another DE tonight!

st.cronin · 01-10-2006, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

The Death Eaters were the only ones with anything like a good reason -- any vote for a villager brings them closer to victory.

There is way too much angst and heavy thinking about day 1. There's practically nothing to learn from the vote, IMO. We're sort of back to square one, except that we believe we can trust Neon and we believe we can trust st. cronin.

I agree. I don't want to come off like I'm convinced about SnDvls. He just seemed like a good bet for a vote, and he hasn't talked me out of it yet.

WVUFAN · 01-10-2006, 04:47 PM

VOTE SNDVLSFor all your scryers out there, here's a comment you should scry -- I AM NOT A DEATH EATER.

Coffee Warlord · 01-10-2006, 04:54 PM

I unvoted dubb because he answered my challenge well. SnDvls, who is in a similar position as dubb from a voting standpoint, was challenged much the same, and I'm not satisfied with his response.

Vote SnDvls

dubb93 · 01-10-2006, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

I unvoted dubb because he answered my challenge well. SnDvls, who is in a similar position as dubb from a voting standpoint, was challenged much the same, and I'm not satisfied with his response.

Vote SnDvls

I agree, Sun was trying to hide something. He just went overboard. The question just becomes is he a death eater, or does he have an important villager role. I'm not willing to take that chance at this point, but WVU has showed up so my vote goes off him, in effect helping your guys case to lynch Sun.

UNVOTE WVUFan

dubb93 · 01-10-2006, 04:57 PM

VOTE PASS

I don't even remember his posting in this thread.

Poli · 01-10-2006, 05:04 PM

Vote Coffee Warlord

Payback, sucka!

Grammaticus · 01-10-2006, 05:06 PM

Well, it is certainly not a tie anymore, so

UNVOTE SNDVLS

Grammaticus · 01-10-2006, 05:07 PM

Anyone have a vote count now?

Jesse_Ewiak · 01-10-2006, 05:07 PM

First of all, I am a Wizard on Day Two. :-)

Second of all, I've got the same story as the other two. Checked the board, saw the commotion, changed my vote.

Since I trust Neon and sort of trust Cronin and Sndvl's explanation seemed weak,

VOTE SNDVLS

Grammaticus · 01-10-2006, 05:11 PM

An early pile on does not help us Wizards much at this point.

Desnudo · 01-10-2006, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

VOTE PASS

I don't even remember his posting in this thread.

#446 from this morning.

Poli · 01-10-2006, 05:14 PM

Gramm, I agree.

Raiders Army · 01-10-2006, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVUFAN

I'm here, I'm here. I lost internet over my weekend, which is Sunday and Monday (cable company was doing some sort of work) so I've not been able to get on to vote. Lemme catch up.

It's now about an hour later. Have you caught up yet?

Raiders Army · 01-10-2006, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

It's now about an hour later. Have you caught up yet?

My bad. 1/2 hour later. I'm inclined to leave my vote as is unless you have some good reasons you shouldn't be lynched.

Raiders Army · 01-10-2006, 05:17 PM

Double dola, is it just me or did none of the children at Hogwarts lynch anyone?

Poli · 01-10-2006, 05:17 PM

I'm out for a bit. Got a truckload of work to do right now, and can't really rationalize being here now.

dubb93 · 01-10-2006, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desnudo

#446 from this morning.

AHHHH...thanks, appears I missed that..

UNVOTE PASS

I assume that is it for the non-voters of yesterday. I have nothing else at this point and I feel that Sun may have a big role, but I'll be honest that I don't have a feel for it yet. I guess I'll go with the flow and...

VOTE SNDVLS

Of course this isn't a firm vote at this point, it will just increase the pressure on him when he comes back. Lets see if we can get a better response from him this time around.

dubb93 · 01-10-2006, 05:19 PM

I would be interested in hearing if Neon and Coffee have a suspect list at this point. It would be good to start making "trust" lists and see if everyone has common suspects or common trusted villagers.

Grammaticus · 01-10-2006, 05:21 PM

Shifting votes to Qwik yesterday really does not tell us much about someone. With Qwick getting fingered as a DE, obviously enough people have to vote for him to get a lynch. Others want to vote for the lynchee to look supportive or hide and others don't change for the same reasons. What has WVU given you as reason to take the heat off him, yet.

VOTE WVUFAN

Desnudo · 01-10-2006, 05:21 PM

Vote Coffee Warlord

I look back at the discussion on the Qwik vote and noticed that Coffee starts talking about the band wagon jumping. Kingfc later follows up with a comment that he's sure several evil band wagoners jumped in on Qwik to confuse things. Of course, who are the two that didn't change their votes? Coffee and King.

It just seems a little too pat for me. Maybe it's nothing, but it seems like those two made a dual effort to deflect attention onto the Qwik vote switchers. My question would be, since everyone knows that the band wagoning draws attention to your name, why would you do it if you were evil?

SnDvls · 01-10-2006, 05:23 PM

well it seems that not only are you going to lose me, but Neon as well.
I guarantee I can save him tonight and he can scan me in the morning.
I have an Anti-Disapparation Charm among the few items I have to protect myself as well. It allows me to prevent the Death Eaters from entering Neon's house. It would allow him to scan me and prove I'm a good wizard. Don't make the mistake of lynching me. Give me my chance to prove myself by protecting Neon and allowing him to clear me.

Lathum · 01-10-2006, 05:25 PM

Vote SNDVLS

mob mentality taking over.

Desnudo · 01-10-2006, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desnudo

Vote Coffee Warlord

I look back at the discussion on the Qwik vote and noticed that Coffee starts talking about the band wagon jumping. Kingfc later follows up with a comment that he's sure several evil band wagoners jumped in on Qwik to confuse things. Of course, who are the two that didn't change their votes? Coffee and King.

It just seems a little too pat for me. Maybe it's nothing, but it seems like those two made a dual effort to deflect attention onto the Qwik vote switchers. My question would be, since everyone knows that the band wagoning draws attention to your name, why would you do it if you were evil?

Sorry, should say didn't change their votes, but had the opportunity to (posted before voting closed).

Lathum · 01-10-2006, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls

well it seems that not only are you going to lose me, but Neon as well.
I guarantee I can save him tonight and he can scan me in the morning.
I have an Anti-Disapparation Charm among the few items I have to protect myself as well. It allows me to prevent the Death Eaters from entering Neon's house. It would allow him to scan me and prove I'm a good wizard. Don't make the mistake of lynching me. Give me my chance to prove myself by protecting Neon and allowing him to clear me.

there already was a spell put on the whole town to prevent apparation in and out of the town. Please explain?

Grammaticus · 01-10-2006, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desnudo

My question would be, since everyone knows that the band wagoning draws attention to your name, why would you do it if you were evil?

Because a role reveal gave credence to the lynch. It was not, just a band wagon. Otherwise, nothing much is reflected at this point from the day one votes. Voting for him late or early can be passed as support or subterfuge.

WVUFAN · 01-10-2006, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

It's now about an hour later. Have you caught up yet?

Nope. I'm at work, so my ability to read large amounts of posts are limited. I will do some when I get off work.

SnDvls · 01-10-2006, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

there already was a spell put on the whole town to prevent apparation in and out of the town. Please explain?

it is a spell I chant to protect a specific area, hench Neon's house

01-10-2006, 03:33 PM	#552
dacman College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: speak to the trout	Got it. __________________ No signatures allowed.

01-10-2006, 03:40 PM	#558
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	I'll go with this as well. Superman at least showed up (even if he didn't explain himself all that well) but there haven't been any WVUFan sightings at all... Unvote Superman Vote WVUFan __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

01-10-2006, 03:55 PM	#563
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I tend to agree with the idea that one of the late switches was a wolf, but I haven't seen a really solid reason to think that it's SnDvls (not saying it couldn't be, I just haven't seen a reason that resonates with me). __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

01-10-2006, 04:33 PM	#567
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	TEST. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-10-2006, 04:34 PM	#569
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I've been trying to post for about 40 minutes now. My computer must be screwed up. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-10-2006, 03:36 PM	#554
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	VOTE WVUFan Just because he hasn't showed up yet.

01-10-2006, 03:39 PM	#556
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I know this will come back to bite me, but if I was a DE, which I'm not, I wouldn't have said anything yet. There are enough side discussions going on already without them getting involved. For now Unvote Superman

01-10-2006, 03:44 PM	#560
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	it's tied now

01-10-2006, 04:08 PM	#565
WVUFAN College Starter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Huntington, WV	I'm here, I'm here. I lost internet over my weekend, which is Sunday and Monday (cable company was doing some sort of work) so I've not been able to get on to vote. Lemme catch up.

01-10-2006, 04:28 PM	#566
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	I'm heading home so out of self preservation vote WVU subject to being moved if I"m not at risk

01-10-2006, 04:44 PM	#571
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	I want to keep this a tie for now VOTE SNDVLS

01-10-2006, 04:46 PM	#573
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Well, I'm off to work for the evening and I'm not sure if I'll be able to check in until morning. I'm hoping we get lucky and catch ourselves another DE tonight! __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

01-10-2006, 04:47 PM	#575
WVUFAN College Starter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Huntington, WV	VOTE SNDVLSFor all your scryers out there, here's a comment you should scry -- I AM NOT A DEATH EATER.

01-10-2006, 04:54 PM	#576
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	I unvoted dubb because he answered my challenge well. SnDvls, who is in a similar position as dubb from a voting standpoint, was challenged much the same, and I'm not satisfied with his response. Vote SnDvls

01-10-2006, 05:04 PM	#579
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Vote Coffee Warlord Payback, sucka! __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-10-2006, 05:06 PM	#580
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Well, it is certainly not a tie anymore, so UNVOTE SNDVLS

01-10-2006, 05:07 PM	#581
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Anyone have a vote count now?

01-10-2006, 05:07 PM	#582
Jesse_Ewiak Banned Join Date: Apr 2004	First of all, I am a Wizard on Day Two. :-) Second of all, I've got the same story as the other two. Checked the board, saw the commotion, changed my vote. Since I trust Neon and sort of trust Cronin and Sndvl's explanation seemed weak, VOTE SNDVLS Last edited by Jesse_Ewiak : 01-10-2006 at 05:08 PM.

01-10-2006, 05:11 PM	#583
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	An early pile on does not help us Wizards much at this point.

01-10-2006, 05:14 PM	#585
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Gramm, I agree. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-10-2006, 05:17 PM	#588
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Double dola, is it just me or did none of the children at Hogwarts lynch anyone?

01-10-2006, 05:17 PM	#589
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'm out for a bit. Got a truckload of work to do right now, and can't really rationalize being here now. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-10-2006, 05:21 PM	#592
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Shifting votes to Qwik yesterday really does not tell us much about someone. With Qwick getting fingered as a DE, obviously enough people have to vote for him to get a lynch. Others want to vote for the lynchee to look supportive or hide and others don't change for the same reasons. What has WVU given you as reason to take the heat off him, yet. VOTE WVUFAN

01-10-2006, 05:21 PM	#593
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Vote Coffee Warlord I look back at the discussion on the Qwik vote and noticed that Coffee starts talking about the band wagon jumping. Kingfc later follows up with a comment that he's sure several evil band wagoners jumped in on Qwik to confuse things. Of course, who are the two that didn't change their votes? Coffee and King. It just seems a little too pat for me. Maybe it's nothing, but it seems like those two made a dual effort to deflect attention onto the Qwik vote switchers. My question would be, since everyone knows that the band wagoning draws attention to your name, why would you do it if you were evil?

01-10-2006, 05:23 PM	#594
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	well it seems that not only are you going to lose me, but Neon as well. I guarantee I can save him tonight and he can scan me in the morning. I have an Anti-Disapparation Charm among the few items I have to protect myself as well. It allows me to prevent the Death Eaters from entering Neon's house. It would allow him to scan me and prove I'm a good wizard. Don't make the mistake of lynching me. Give me my chance to prove myself by protecting Neon and allowing him to clear me.

01-10-2006, 05:25 PM	#595
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Vote SNDVLS mob mentality taking over.

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